HIfi Show in London, Heathrow 2005

[3Deity]

Transaural audio is crosstalk really.

I agree, it is rare to find a music reviewer who is either an engineer or musician - this is one of the very great problems for the customer.

True, flat frequency response doesn't mean much - I have some 1930s speakers that sound amazing due to their reactance. They measure like shit!

There seems to be a 'hifi sound', people get addicted to push pull amps for unearthly bass and snappy sounding metal dome tweeters. Vocals shake the floor, my voice doesn't.

[benjyboba]

@3Deity Sort of crosstalk but using things to advantage instead of it destroying the stereol ques, I'm not going to try and explain in words but if done right you get the same image allways coming from the center of the speakers. Even if you go left or right of the speakers. it has got more faults but very easily corrected with the right speaker design. Truely its all about creating the illusion and focus. I like to describe it as a camera being out of focus. Same with the frequencys.

[benjyboba]

@3Deity Can I just mention, our ears are designed to hear around us, When we play it flat, our perception of the frequencys from the speaker are trying to work out where the sound is coming from. That exact same sound will be heard diffferently from different angles to distances. We simply need to alter the frequencys to align and ensure they are all facing the listener. Its a perception illusion. The frequencys can be rebalanced to other frequencys and re-created to form a direct 3d illusion

[23chilled]

be honest all this stuff looks the bis but really you cant beat the journey of collecting great hifi and there is truly outstanding ways of buying bargains. An old system today that is of 20 years or older will easily perform as good as most of this hifi if not better and we are talking mainstream brands to the likes of NAD, pioneer, sony n so on. Audio was made better years ago and has a better sound.

[benjyboba]

Your right audio years ago had better designed systems, today they are more like art. Its alright putting the best quality parts ever made in the world into a system but unless you have the right design, the sound will suck. When you've heard a Hi-Fi system that isn't built for the general public but to do the job properly, your realise how apauling quality these really are. Some old systems with the knowhow can make sounds better than any of these. I might visit a show but wont be impressed.

[3Deity]

@benjyboba Thats because since the war people have wanted clean, modernist design. These days with so many complex manufacturing processes available relatively cheaply, the younger designers will vent their creative minds. Of course this is, as John Lasseter of Pixar suggests, like all classical art being produced by the chemists who mixed the paint. Just look at modern architecture, its shit because architects study loading, fabrication, access, fire regs and have no concept of art.

[3Deity]

@benjyboba Having attended lots of hifi shows in the UK I can tell you most of this gear sounds totally awful - if they spent as much effort on whats in the box then the situation would change. Whatever the case and no matter what your price range, 99% of hifi is the fast road to divorce, from your spouse and reality! :o)

[benjyboba]

@3Deity Its not just what is inside the box, its the design and way its all put together. I've heard a system that many will never hear, nameless system built for the purpose of proper playback. Words can't describe the experience. I would love to demonstrate how BIG the difference is between a real High end system and manufactured shit. I think someone thought it would be cheaper to remove circuits to save on production costs then claim it degrades sound quality. Design is everything.

[3Deity]

@benjyboba The laws of physics don't change because someone with white gloves put it together in an air conditioned room. If you want true fidelity then simplicity of design is essential. Most manufacturers bang on and on about one aspect of music reproduction and flatly refuse to comment on anything else, this is because their understanding of the subject limited. For example, Thiele Small parameters do not define how speakers work, they are flawed. Designers cannot see outside these rules.

[benjyboba]

@3Deity You can't change physics but you can use them to our advantage. If you look through any hi-fi article, they allways talk about the problems but they don't tell you how to rectify them. I know simplicity is best to a certain extent but in my opion its all about getting that special balance between all the frequency levels so they all relate as they should and create a transaural illusion. Playing back flat doesnt relate the left and right speaker frequencys or fix crosstalk.

[3Deity]

@benjyboba I replied but due to the post, not directly to you - D'oh! What gear are you into?

[benjyboba]

@3Deity I'm not into any anymore, its sad, since I heard a proper system, all the rest seems totally pointless to listen to. Not to say there is anything on the market for me but In comparison against what I listend to. The difference is so dynamical that words can't describe it. Sounded belieably real and was coming from the mind. It was pleasent and had 3d sound and it even went up and down, like it was way above the listener. All done on 2 speakers. Thats what I like. Real stereo

[lucylovesgaara]

ah i went to this one!! i loved it!!

[grabngonuts]

wish this heavenly video were clear

[pmarchitect]

wow! there was a song with a drum beat in there somewhere! well done hifi heads. those oboes can do one tho!

[mavallarino]

I wish I could work aluminium and wood like that!

[raymondleeleggs]

Nice systems Horrid music

[xsamitt]

Odd that most people who buy really good gear play Jazz.I would love to hear some good rock and blues .And I will once I finish building my new system.Can't wait.

[LeSooz]

I agree that Bose isnt worth the price, but then again, there are so many other TOO expensive equipment outthere, sadly.. Go with B&W speakers, they are nice, and natural

[ACEMFG]

bose for the price are quite good, not nowhere's near what i run but for the price?

it's pretty hard to beat the 901's for around $1000.00.

they sound good,have good power,and look good too.

bose used to be far ahead of it's time.

now a set of NAMURA's WOW!

[AYREACOUSTICS]

I would go klipsch over bose at like prices, personally.

[ACEMFG]

i would too.

i like the old ones with the 100db drivers

[hajdeqihmi]

BOSE stands for;

Buy Other Sound Equipment

[PRC1972]

Bose = Death

[stpd1957]

Very interesting clip, thanks for posting.

[trial715]

i heard a norwegian guy talking :O

[kanebisa]

With all those High-end audio equipment, how could someone even dare to acclaim Bose to be the best in the world??? Do they have any clue what they are talking about? Bose... give me a break.

Just check the Bolzano Villetri shown on 07:42 to 08:13, thats truly HI-FI!!!

Basically people who use Bose don't bother themself to check this kind of audio equipment, because they don't even know those brands.

[23chilled]

hifi is not the same anymore, look back to the likes of the legendary NAD 3020 amplifier and you'll see what i mean, it can still show hifi today how music is produced through a fine pair of speakers also check out Pionner A91-D amplifier it kicks ass....

[catfordvicar]

get a life you sad lot.........

[Maxzoe20]

Marantz reference line looks well built. I don't recognize the product at 7:40 but the finish and sound, from what I gather is exceptional.

[cocopeep]

Very good video on these systems, I recently heard many of these systems at the New York City Hyatt, when they had the 2007 T.H.E Show

[jmgnovais]

Sweet...

[maxgraff]

naim cd555 yummmm

[hamdo1000]

Yeah, Great Systems!