. The assumptions necessary to believe in spontaneous generation and macro evolution have been proven false long ago...oh really?i think you find its the other way round. Where is god when tens of thousands of starving people die each year?where is god when your prayers are not answered?why does god let natural disasters happen?im more inclined to believe there is a devil!!
@Kunjurur1 Pasteur demonstrated many years ago that life comes only from life. That's the basis of aseptic surgery and the preservation of foods by sterilizing. The last century of accelerated mutational experiments performed on the fruit fly, contrary to the evolutionists' expectations, have demonstrated there is an upper and lower limit; in other words, one species cannot mutate into another. Evolution isn't science, but a faulty interpretation of data in an effort to deny God.
The bible is just tales,just stories made up and certainly exaggerated.As richard dawkins says,you may as well believe there is a giant teapot orbiting the earth
@Kunjurur1 Sounds about right, coming from someone who believes God couldn't have created life, but it's possible that space aliens did. The fool (and those who follow him/her) says in his heart there is no God. The assumptions necessary to believe in spontaneous generation and macro evolution have been proven false long ago, and go against observable reality. If you want to talk about exaggerated tales, take a look at an evolutionary text book, not the Bible.
@KijaniFalseprophet Since I set the video comments to require approval, you got angry when your last comment didn't immediately appear, and went to my channel to post "you're a fraud." Your username makes it clear you really enjoy "exposing" people publicly. I pray you find the wisdom that is from above, which is "peaceable, gentle, willing to yield," because what you're showing is "earthly, sensual, and demonic" (James 3)
@KijaniFalseprophet “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone (privately). If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. (Matthew 18:15-20)
@KijaniFalseprophet I covered several of those points in the message I was going to send you. You're starting to look an aweful lot like a troll who just wants an audience and a public stoning, instead of obeying the Bible's outline for how to approach someone you believe is sinning. Not very Christlike of you.
@KijaniFalseprophet That's really adult of you. I requested twice to be able to carry on a more in depth discussion with you, but you're obviously interested only in proving me wrong, not in examining the Scriptures together, nor do you seem interested in genuinely "studying to show yourself approved."
@KijaniFalseprophet I guess you didn't read my comment about a better discussion method. I explained more than once that the word translated there "meditate" actually means "think about." It is the Hebrew word "hagah" which means to ponder and to speak. If the only thing we can ever ponder is the Bible, then that means going to medical school, learning mathematics, or studying to get a driver's license is evil. Don't keep ignoring my request to discuss this in a better forum.
yeah i'm sorry for trollin,i do know full and well what a christian is just wanted to see whether or not you'd take advantage of the opportunity to witness to me,i totally gave you an open door,today you can think about our duty as christians to be fishers of men.
@rockyeuenguino I knew you had to know what a Christian is (anyone who spends time on YouTube would have to). That's why I didn't explain (you weren't looking). Witnessing shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction, but something that is led by the Holy Spirit (see the example of Jesus who said only what He heard the Father saying). While this wasn't the time to tell you the Gospel, maybe it WAS the time to remind you of Ephesians 4:29, "Let no unwholesome word proceed out of your mouth."
@rockyeuenguino I deleted your comment because of the profanity. It sounds like you don't know much about your own mind or how little control you have over it. And if you don't even know what a Christian is, the rest of this video isn't going to make any sense to you anyway.
This was interesting, but lack of thought is the enemy of creativity and innovation. IMO, the problem with the world today is people not thinking things through.
@TheSTDStudios Uncontrolled chattering actually gets in the way of creativity and innovation. Studies have shown that regular meditation (silencing the mind) increases both.
@TheDiceMan6 You could say the same thing about anything -- getting in shape physically, getting a better education, earning a living... Nothing happened to "blessed are those who are pure in heart." Your comment really doesn't make any contextual sense. Quite the opposite, actually. The mind is a key player in the things you mentioned, and disciplining the mind is highly beneficial to them all. We don't stop living and growing until we're perfect. Growth in any area helps all the rest.
@TheDiceMan6 "Quite the opposite" of making contextual sense. And it's the sermon on the "mount." (Spelling correcting in exchange for gramatical correction.)
@TheDiceMan6 As long as you don't do any exercise, or engage in any secular education (including medicine, architecture, and mathematics), and you don't watch TV, then you might have moral posture to say I'm doing something wrong by talking about meditation. Otherwise, you're promoting a double standard, and are unwittingly claiming your own gut reaction is equivelant to Biblical truth (which you need to brush up on.. it's "MOUNT" not "MOUND"... lol). Then maybe YOU will need "nothing else."
@TheDiceMan6 Aha, so you're really just upset that I'm selling something. I thought your other points were pretty strange, considering your love for Alan Watts. Is he where you got the idea that selling a "how to meditate" program is wrong? (Maybe that was in his book on Zen that he sold?) And once again, it's "mounT," not "mounD." That one's free. ;o)
@TheDiceMan6 That's actually "you cannot serve God and mammon (or money)," not "man." Of course you can think for yourself. You obviously think you can also think for others. You're imposing your own view of the Bible on others (which makes your posting of Alan Watts videos very relevant), and say that I don't live by the Bible simply because I sell a meditation course. Who set you up as God, to deal out judgment on others who don't agree with your own ideals and interpretations?
@TheDiceMan6 By the way, I mentioned Alan Watts' book simply because he SOLD it, and yet you post his videos. He can sell books about Zen, but I cannot sell audio programs about meditation. You really need to step back and examine your double standard and true motivations before you continue to attack me because I've somehow upset you.
@TheDiceMan6 My point was he obviously doesn't "upset" you even though he did the same thing I'm doing, that same thing which supposedly is what "upsets" you. Leave Watts out of this? There is no "this." You're engaging in an unreasonable attack, and your supposed motivation falls to pieces under the slightest bit of reason, yet you still cling to it. I'm not going to waste any more time on this idiodicy.
@TheDiceMan6 One last response to your comments... The two passages of Scripture you quoted were misquotes, and you have posted no videos besides ones from someone entranced by Zen. And yet you are condemning me for not living according to (your understanding of) the Bible. You really need to demote yourself in your own eyes to the station you really occupy. Try a little humility -- it will open your eyes.
@TheDiceMan6 You're only fooling yourself. Your first comment stated that the problem was that Christians don't need to meditate, they need to obey the Bible. By the end of this discussion, if it can be called that, you changed your "reason" to the fact that I sell instructional programs (which you don't fault Watts for). Your problem is with your emotional response, not an actual wrong done. I suggest you try working for a living. It may offer some incredible insight.
The meditation the scripture encourages is not the type many think about today such as in yoga. In keeping ones cool, well the scripture reads to do so and an apostle said "be wrathfull YET DO NOT SIN, DO NOT LEAVE OPEN A WAY FOR THE DEVIL. One that does not are ones that are " Prooving false to GODS Power"
@Brooklynbed1 Yes, I made that point as well that the meditation mentioned in Scripture isn't the same thing I'm talking about. Please re-listen to the video (perhaps without as much mental chatter so you can hear everything that's actually being said), and then if you still hear something you think Scripture says is false, send me a private message and we'll discuss it.
@benfaust YEah I listened to it all, laughed abit and still do not hear what you say you pointed out. But as you asked for helping you out, well there is your true help accept it. To explane meditation can bring danger if done wrong and not understood. So meditaion in scripture means to think about or better yet to digest the food that GOD gives which is what Jesus said we are to live by " every word coming from GOD's MOUTH".! Mostly action is what shows love" there many words do not get to GOD"
@Brooklynbed1 You're right, I must be thinking about Part 1 of the program, in which I explain the difference between the type of meditation I describe and the words in the Bible translated "meditation," which are better translated "contemplation" or "thinking about." You said explaining meditation can bring danger. This is a misleading statement, and is not appropriate, given the information contained in the program. If shutting our mental mouth for a few minutes is dangerous, God help us all.
The first scripture you qouted, is a light or guide, for us to be carefull of your tounge. Hence Prverbs is the "book" of wisdom. As a christian, or true christian, we know that we do have a bit of power inorder to follow scriptures in the cases where our power fails we rely on God almighty and his son Jesus Christ. In this way "it is not by OUR power ALONE".
@Brooklynbed1 Instead of posting a bunch of comments, let's discuss this in private messages. I did point out the distinction in this Scripture, and pointed out that if "in the abundance of words (does not say spoken) transgression is unavoidable," then the principle carries over.
sooo im a Jehovahs witness and growing up as one we are taught to always read the bible. When we preach to others always show in the bible where it is to the one u are preaching to so they know its not something u didnt make up. i looked up ur scriptures and ur missing alot of good points when u quote them. U left out words which makes it a whole different meaning. The Ephesians one was pretty close.
another thing is there r 2 Thessalonians so u might want to verify which one so u dont confuse ppl. For 1 samuel u forgot to say gods name which is clearly stated there, Jehovah. also we have full control over our own mind jehovah does not control it. he wants us to think for ourselves. chose who we wanna worship. Thats the whole point of y we r still here so we can show for ourselves that we wanna worship him, he wouldnt force us cuz he wants us to love him unconditionally.
@XBlueFireflyX No, we usually don't really have control over our minds. The context of that statement was made clear in the video, and experience confirms this fact. I don't think you comprehend what I said. I quoted 1 Thessalonians 5:18 (which I specified in the video)... As Christians, we know "God" means "Jehovah." I said that 1st Samual said "God looks at the heart." I was simply making a paraphrased statement of fact. Your "must say 'Jehovah'" teaching has made you miss the point.
@XBlueFireflyX I'd be interested in discussing this with you. Comment space isn't a good place, since it would require multiple comments to carry on a discussion about what you've found, what version(s) you referenced (I placed the exact quotes for most of them on the screen and didn't leave out any "words"), etc. So feel free to send me a private message and we'll discuss this further.
@benfaust actually id reather let others see so they can learn as well. i dont think this has to be a private thing. im not saying u r wrong, i looked up all the scriptures and u left our gods name and words were changed. like i said i grew up reading the bible ever since i was 4 so i catch mistakes easy. im a proud strong christian. what is stated in the bible should be said clearly and completely. try showing that ur looking them up maybe show the camera were u r reading. might help.
@XBlueFireflyX If I ever see I'm wrong, I'll remove the video. The words were not changed. If you have a version the Jehovah's Witnesses say is the only correct one, you're probably being deceived. I quoted using the NKJV. The Bible was the first book I ever read, and I have also been reading it since I was a young child. I am reading from a script. It's a nice idea to "show that I'm looking them up," but is quite unreasonable. If you can't discuss personally with me, silence is acceptable.
as for meditation its nothing u have to pay for, its u reading the bible(gods word) and pondering over what u read. seeing how u can apply it in ur life, how u can use it to better urselve and become closer to our father jehovah god. there is not website thats gunna make u meditate better, its just u Gods word and jehovah god. Im sorry i just need to correct u on these details that i think jah would greatly want In his preachings. hope u can learn somethings in my comments. now have a great day.
@eskabarz90 To be perfectly honest, I contact a lot of people; most likely you posted a video in which I was interested or posted a comment on someone else's video.
There is a kind of rumour that Christ went to India to hang out with the yogis and brahmin at some point during the 'lost years' of his youth (age 12 - 30).
@MILLIONZofUS lol... Many people do use words that mean nothing to them during meditation, but the point is to use that meaningless repetition to eventually take them into silence, or "the space between the thoughts." Unless you already meditate, you can't be expected to be able to silence your mind very long at all. Only a very occasional non-meditator can. I like your mantra though.. haha! ;o)
you make some very valid points personally I have run into Christians that if you don't agree with their understanding of Father Yahweh's word ( God Almighty) they use character assignation to belittle you and your understanding I am just a follower of Jesus Christ I do not believe we should have structured worship I believe we need to live our life For Christ that to me means daily commitment to live as best I know how to honor God. Meditation to me is a mind vacation :)
@walshybhoy1 Your definition of a false prophet obviously doesn't come from the Bible, so where does it come from? And on what do you base your condemnation? It's risky business to judge a brother without Scriptural foundation for doing so. (And on a lighter side, are you not sitting on your backside right now?)
@benfaust Of coarse it's scriptural, you are leading people astray. People should be hearing how to save their souls, Christians preach salvation and how to live like Jesus.
@walshybhoy1 Good. Then you can show me where in the Bible it describes me as a false prophet (or a prophet of any kind at all), and where it says I'm doing something to lead people astray. Otherwise, you just have an opinion that you've exalted to be the Word of God on the matter.
@benfaust You are leading people astray because you are not telling them why Jesus died and what it meant for him to die. Tell the people how to save their soul and not how to relax !
the single most usefull tool i have found to get out of my head is from a qi gong practice, you touch the tip of the toung to the roof of the mouth and simply be aware of your breath, while deeply breathing... the chinese say it is a banana for our monkey mind
Well this is my take. Proverbs is a proverbs and it's not talking about the abundance of words in your mind. But the abundance of words coming out of your mind. Someone being talkative just like you said. Someone who likes to talk a bit too much. And yes thoughts come into our mind, but we are to control them. We are to say no to the ungodly thought and yet to the godly ones. Every day I go through this and through the Holy Spirit yes you can control your thoughts in the sense of discarding.
@NuevaGeneracion3 Good points. However, that applies only the your thoughts that are in the form of words. As you learn to have a more silent mind, you'll start seeing a much deeper current of thought that is beyond the normal mental chatter. We can't control (or redirect) those thoughts if we can't even see them. However, anyone I've known who has truly started watching every single word they think, has become quite bothered by the never-ending chatter. It really is a lack of self-control.
@benfaust Well in my cause and many other cases. The devil bring thoughts into our mind to give some example: fornication, lying, cheating, etc... However, we have the choice to keep thinking about them or reject them from the get go. When a thought comes into your mind, it's your choice to keep thinking about them or not. That's why the Bible says we need to bring every thought to obedience and how it tells us to think of everything that is good.
@benfaust Also doesn't the Bible says that one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self control? And doesn't it say to live by the Spirit and we will not gratify the desires of the nature. I care for you man and I will ask you to be very careful with what you are teaching. Cause it seems that you are changing the source of our sanctification which is the Holy Spirit. The Bible speaks not of meditation the way you speak of it, but it speaks about the Holy Spirit. Be careful with what you teach.
@benfaust Cause you might be doing and leading others to do practices that God doesn't approve of. And we as leaders, and teacher are responsible for what we tell the people around us and God will judge us for those things. If you really would base yourself in the Bible, you will know that God's answer is the Holy Spirit. God bless you.
@NuevaGeneracion3 Yes, the Holy Spirit empowers us to live a holy life. But He isn't limited to only doing so "invisibly" or in some way we have come to expect. For example, God might provide for someone by encouraging their employer to give them a raise, or by sending someone to pay their bills, or He may open a door of schooling or employment. Just like the gym is man-made but can benefit, so sitting in silence can be a very healthful thing to do. (continued...)
@NuevaGeneracion3 (...continued) There are many people who, without prescription drugs, would do evil things because their body's chemicals are imbalanced; yet few would suggest they trust only in God (while rejecting His help because its form doesn't seem spiritual enough). If learning to sit in silence "feels" evil to you, you'll do well to stay away from it. But many things "feel" evil to us that are not so for anyone else, and aren't contrary to Scripture. The spirit of fear is not of God.
well you have to clear out the clutter in the front of your mind, normally that's journaling like three pages a day when you first wake up, then, after you take out the trash, you're open to new, um, consciousness & creativity etc..that's been my experience, doesn't mean i do it every day, learned that years ago in an art class, right now i'm all hung up on manifestations and literally ascensions and descensions..so..perplexing
Meditation is for EVERYONE, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduist, Atheist, Paganist, etcetera ... ;-) Meditation opens door to the Truth and I'd rather love to learn more via meditation than via any spiritual book! I'm a Universal Spiritualist which means that I believe in God as a Unity, we're all pieces of God, all CHILDREN of God and yes, I'm monotheist too, as we ALL are dealing with the RIGHT SAME SOURCE (God) ... Don't look at DEVIDENCE but look at COMPARENCES ;-)
I rarely watch t.v.(just something I'm not really in to), ur mind should never be completely cleared otherwise He would'nt say let this mind which in u be which was also like Christ Jesus(He didn't meditate)His mind was on His Father's business(as ours should be), if u keep ur mind on Him, He'll keep u in perfect peace Is.26:3, set ur mind on things above Col 3:2. U MUST FIRST ADDRESS UR HEART & UR MIND WILL CHANGE...It starts with the heart & God helps u with that not u independantly.
@Sugabear1976 I'm not sure how you know Jesus was never quiet, but I encourage you to dig into your beliefs concerning this and find out where they really come from. Since Jesus never sinned, and since "in the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable," it's pretty clear that Jesus' mind wasn't full of endless babbling. Let's get back to the Bible, and stop condemning things based on our feelings.
@benfaust I NEVER said Jesus wasn't quiet, there r times 2 talk & times 2 hush as I'm about 2 do after I say this-it depends on ur def of meditation, if ur meditating on Jesus there's nothing wrong w/ that, BUT if u mean N the form of meditation as N eastern & sum western practices, u might wanna do ur research on the origins of it & u might understand where I'm coming from. There's no need 2 get upset cause I don't agree w/ u, I NEVER WILL(on this subject) I kno better that's all..I'm DONE =)
@Sugabear1976 I'm not upset. I just thought you might want to find a more solid basis for your beliefs than just "knowing" something is wrong. Just being silent (inside and out) can be labeled "Eastern." Interestingly, the number zero has its origin in Budhist concepts. If you watch your thoughts long enough, your own constant babbling will disturb you, and you'll want to learn how to close your mental mouth. Judging others for this is not a Godly thing to do..
@benfaust I NEVER judged ANYONE, we're talking about a practice not a person..smh. I simply addressed ur question, if u didn't want a response y would u ask a question?? Uve basically attacked me for answering ur question(which speaks volumes concerning ur true beliefs). If ur meditating u might wanna rethink it, being that it's not helping u when it comes to RESPECTING others' views...I hope one day u come into the knowledge of the truth, I'm done with this convo, have a good day sir.
The "Holy Spirit" is the answer. It speaks to u & comforts u, reading ur word & praying is what causes u to keep ur mind stayed on Him, when hit with trouble, worry, etc BELIEVE in God! how do u believe? Doing what the Word says will cause u to be victorious in ur walk and ur mind will be ur servant, the flesh(mind) does not like submitting to the will of Christ, READ, PRAY, BELIEVE! (don't meditate on that, DO IT)
@Sugabear1976 I agree with you. But we're talking about two different things. You're talking about what is necessary for walking the Christian walk. Eating a good diet and exercising aren't necessary for that, but they're very beneficial, as is meditation. You don't have to meditate to be a Christian, and meditating in itself cannot connect you with God. But it does raise your IQ, decrease your tendency to react to stress in destructive ways, and helps with watching and controlling thoughts.
@benfaust Actually we are suppose 2 take care of our temples, God moves thru us & if we're dead He can't do that so we need to be healthy so that we can do things(physically). Meditation leaves an open door in a spiritual realm that is NOT connected to God & it is DANGEROUS. The Holy Spirit decreases ur tendencies to react in destructive ways & helps u die to flesh(meaning renewing ur mind, casting down vain thoughts, etc). It takes time & DISCIPLINE but it can be done WITHOUT meditation.
@benfaust Just as it takes time to learn to meditate, a christian can spend THAT TIME learning to die to flesh, learning to let the Holy Spirit lead them. Meditation causes ur spirit to be open thus leaving u open for something other than the Holy Spirit to enter...it's a BIG NO-NO. Glad u posed the question tho =) ppl really need to kno the truth =D
@Sugabear1976 Our temples include our minds. The mind isn't the spirit; rather, the spirit dwells within the body and the mind. Just out of curiosity, what is the foundation of your belief that meditation opens spiritual doors? I've heard that, but have never been given a reasonable basis for that claim, and have certainly never seen it in Scripture. "In the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable" refers to the inside and out. Saying being quiet a few minutes is dangerous, is baseless.
@Sugabear1976 Concerning the time factor... If you never watch television, perhaps this is a good argument. Television quickly creates an altered state of consciousness and "opens doors" for whatever flashes in front of your eyes. It lowers I.Q., worsens ADD, and is all around bad for you. Sitting quietly instead will raise your I.Q., improve ADD, and is excellent for your health. If you want to spend more time praying, give up television to do it, not meditation.
The Hebrew word hagah and Greek word meletao is also translated as meditate, it simply means to muse or devise.. in other words, a form of introspective self-dialog where you focus and chew on one particular idea... I suppose to do this there would be some element of clearing of stray thoughts though, but doesn't mean you might not refer to thoughts if it's helpful to the subject you're pondering about.
The Hebrew word suwach used when refering to isaac meditating means quite the opposite of clearing your thoughts. It actually means to focus on one particular thought (as if with uncertainty of the meaning of something).
@rojaszela Thanks for the comment. The word used for what Isaac did is not used elsewhere in the Bible, and its full meaning can only be assumed. It might have been pondering a single thought, or not. I personally started noticing how insane it is to not be able to stop mentally chattering when I started putting into constant practice the passages concerning watching our thoughts. To anyone not doing that at all times, having times of mental quiet might seem strange and unnecessary.
@benfaust The concordance said the meaning is uncertain, I thought it THAT was the definition, haha.
About the verse you quoted from 2 Corinthians 10, it 's telling us to keep our minds ready to resist imaginations (arguements) or anything that "exalts itself against the knowledge of God" so that our thoughts can be kept "in obedience to Christ" (in other words, to keep from making mental excuses). Think of it as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
@rojaszela The tricky thing there is that we have many "imaginations" about which we don't even know. After developing a less chatty mind, you'll be amazed at all the wordless thoughts you start to uncover. And "in the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable," applies to words period -- inside or out. Ask the average person what they're thinking about, and they will often have no clue. Learning to have short times of quiet and rest is a very good thing to do.
Olá benfaust seja bem vindo a minha rede de amigos,gostei muito de seu vídeo,sou brasileira mineira e gostaria que quando for possivel que venha nos visitar e conheçer nosso Brasil pois aqui é muito lindo.Um grande abraço.
@Larendria Scripture doesn't say he did, and it doesn't say he didn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't go to the gym, but that has nothing to do with whether anyone else should. He never used a sword, but the Bible says those who are called to do so are ordained by God.
@Larendria No He didn't..Simple answer, Renew ur mind N Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit leads u. We shouldn't worry abt things cause God is N full control. Submit ur will 2 Him & even whn something unplanned happens it will work out 4 the good of those "who r N Christ Jesus" KNOW WHO HE IS & who u r in Him, do as the word tells u & ull b victorious N ur walk. Even Jesus endured hardships YET He remainded sinless, full of power/anointing, & STEADFAST. Read ur word, pray, & keep ur mind on Him=)
@Sugabear1976 Don't be, when i did believe in him i was depressed and suicidal, because he created hell, he is a monster. I've found peace without him, he's never been real, i stopped wasting my time.
@Larendria Actually, I had went thru something like that, I almost had a nervous breakdown & I blamed God for EVERYTHING because I felt He could have stopped it & He allowed it to happen to me(i witnessed a murder, I had a hit out on my life, I lost my job, my house, & I was dealing with an addiction to cocaine that I couldn't kick). I was seeing things & being tortured by demons LITERALLY, & I wanted to die!! I was soooo tired, U HV NO IDEA, but I told God "if ur real, u gotta show me"...
I was a lesbian & lost friends, I had nothing 2 lose I told God I surrender myself & I need help if u don't help I'm gonna admit myself 2 an institution or kill myself SOMETHING HAD 2 HAPPEN, when I did that I asked this lady @ the church 2 pray 4 me I said "I needed 2 know if He was real & I didn't want any doubts," she prayed 4 me, that night when I went home I went 2 sleep EVERYTHING CHANGED!!I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT cause u probably wouldn't believe me, that was 11 yrs ago, I'm married w 3 kids =)
@Larendria There's no confusion there, I was simply telling u SOME of the reasons "I" had a problem with God, those were MY experiences(some). I was just saying I had became suicidal @ one point & those were some of the reasons, idk what urs were, those were mine, but WHATEVER THE SITUATION, God IS the solution & He really could/can help.
@Sugabear1976 Don't be, when i did believe in him i was depressed and suicidal, because he created hell, he is a monster. I've found peace without him, he's never been real, i stopped wasting my time.
@01blackpete1 Thanks for the comment. Some types of food are dangerous for some people. But food is definitely a good thing, and everyone should eat it. It's up to each person to determine what foods, and what type(s) of meditation, are best for them.
@benfaust I would suggest that people with psychiatric problems keep well clear of Centering Prayer as taught by Thomas Keating. It is advisable that one have backup from a trained psychotherapist. It is amazing what can come up in Zen Sitting. Some folks can be overwhelmed and become ill.
Indeed meditation would be a good thing for everyone to practice, the down side however is that lots cristians only believe what they want to believe and what is convienient for them, most of them don't even read the bible...
And for lots of people even the association with boedism/hindoeism will frighten them and they won't even give it a chance...
PS: Nice to see another sane/rational cristian on the tubes ;)
doesn't bringing every thought into captivity mean to meditate on those things which are pure, holy, etc.so if we catch ourselves, we can turn it around and choose to think and meditate on good things? i highly doubt it means making sure we're not hinking bad thoughts in order to be holy. cause then we'll wear ourselves out. Dont you think?? please add with truth to my converstaion
@gnawaserge You make a good point. Sadly, that the average mind today has a problem doing even what you said. 1) We don't know what we're thinking most of the time. Try asking someone lost in thought what they're thinking about. 2) Many can't keep focus long enough to effectively change bad thoughts to good. Learning to have times of silence is not for the cause of never thinking again. God came up with thinking, and when it doesn't control us, it's good. Meditation helps us see and direct.
Anapana is the best form of mediation to clear your mind and if you do it properly your wisdom increases exponentially and in the quiet you accept the essence of God. Words can't speak of God, but feelings are in perfect connection with God.
" Living in the heart doesn't mean charging our brothers and sisters $ to help them find their totem animal "
Living in the heart means preserving the traditions and Culture of the Old Ones and they deserve our respect. Their healing meditation ceremonies were never for sale.
@Skylinerealities Great method! Different objects of focus work better for different people. Perhaps a good one for you is sound (that works very effectively for me as well). Do you have experience with meditation, or did you just come up with the idea of producing a mental tone?
@benfaust Well, I came up with the idea at the spur of the moment however I did touch into meditation back in acting school but we used a physical tone such as humming not a mental tone such as I used last night watching your video, thanks for getting back with me.
@RBHILL300 you can't try not to think. it defeats the pourpose i think. Christian meditation instead is deaing with meditation on gods word and what it teaches, not on making our minds blank cause then it fills our mind with whatever.
@gnawaserge "Trying" not to think is not the point. Disciplining ourselves to not constantly babble in our heads is completely Scriptural. If you're addicted to constant words (in the abundance of words...), then you have an addiction you need to break. It's not possible to completely empty your mind. It IS possible to learn how to not be constantly chattering. Only then will you be able to start recognizing all the not-verbal thoughts you think that right now are hidden from you.
Yes we are ruled by our weakness, as in your video blog on thought's. The Bible explains the weakness of the flesh. The one true God, "I AM", explains throughout the
the scriptures that he understands our weakness. It is our walking in the way and the light of the Lord that accepts his love. Sadly, many use one verse or a portion of a verse to explain God's word. We all must remember the WHOLE BIBLE explains God's word. . . Peace be with you.
. The assumptions necessary to believe in spontaneous generation and macro evolution have been proven false long ago...oh really?i think you find its the other way round. Where is god when tens of thousands of starving people die each year?where is god when your prayers are not answered?why does god let natural disasters happen?im more inclined to believe there is a devil!!
Kunjurur1 2 months ago
@Kunjurur1 Pasteur demonstrated many years ago that life comes only from life. That's the basis of aseptic surgery and the preservation of foods by sterilizing. The last century of accelerated mutational experiments performed on the fruit fly, contrary to the evolutionists' expectations, have demonstrated there is an upper and lower limit; in other words, one species cannot mutate into another. Evolution isn't science, but a faulty interpretation of data in an effort to deny God.
benfaust 2 months ago
i truly feel sorry for christians who think meditation is some kind of sin.
HappierHealthierYou 2 months ago
The bible is just tales,just stories made up and certainly exaggerated.As richard dawkins says,you may as well believe there is a giant teapot orbiting the earth
Kunjurur1 3 months ago
@Kunjurur1 Sounds about right, coming from someone who believes God couldn't have created life, but it's possible that space aliens did. The fool (and those who follow him/her) says in his heart there is no God. The assumptions necessary to believe in spontaneous generation and macro evolution have been proven false long ago, and go against observable reality. If you want to talk about exaggerated tales, take a look at an evolutionary text book, not the Bible.
benfaust 2 months ago
Thanks for proving my point
ivaivanx3 5 months ago
Benfaust,
Meditation of the word of God is somethig that has nothing to do with the traditional concept of meditation.
Now, if you want to understand about the word of God there is a condition. You need to be humble. Otherwise you just can't.
Heavenfir 5 months ago
@Heavenfir The Biblical word translated "meditation", which means to speak and to ponder, is not what I'm talking about here.
benfaust 5 months ago
@KijaniFalseprophet Since I set the video comments to require approval, you got angry when your last comment didn't immediately appear, and went to my channel to post "you're a fraud." Your username makes it clear you really enjoy "exposing" people publicly. I pray you find the wisdom that is from above, which is "peaceable, gentle, willing to yield," because what you're showing is "earthly, sensual, and demonic" (James 3)
benfaust 5 months ago
@KijaniFalseprophet “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone (privately). If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. (Matthew 18:15-20)
benfaust 5 months ago
@KijaniFalseprophet I covered several of those points in the message I was going to send you. You're starting to look an aweful lot like a troll who just wants an audience and a public stoning, instead of obeying the Bible's outline for how to approach someone you believe is sinning. Not very Christlike of you.
benfaust 5 months ago
@KijaniFalseprophet That's really adult of you. I requested twice to be able to carry on a more in depth discussion with you, but you're obviously interested only in proving me wrong, not in examining the Scriptures together, nor do you seem interested in genuinely "studying to show yourself approved."
benfaust 5 months ago
@KijaniFalseprophet I guess you didn't read my comment about a better discussion method. I explained more than once that the word translated there "meditate" actually means "think about." It is the Hebrew word "hagah" which means to ponder and to speak. If the only thing we can ever ponder is the Bible, then that means going to medical school, learning mathematics, or studying to get a driver's license is evil. Don't keep ignoring my request to discuss this in a better forum.
benfaust 5 months ago
....let me rephrase that. I do not agree with christianity, but I do agree with the meditation thing. Christians are too negative!
ivaivanx3 6 months ago
Wow, very insightful!! I totally agree.
ivaivanx3 6 months ago
nice video
kazukun01toontown 6 months ago
Excellent work! Thumbs up!
butterfly906607 6 months ago
i remember in church the elder was saying the same parody . but he said as a joke.,
metubegirl69er 6 months ago
yeah i'm sorry for trollin,i do know full and well what a christian is just wanted to see whether or not you'd take advantage of the opportunity to witness to me,i totally gave you an open door,today you can think about our duty as christians to be fishers of men.
rockyeuenguino 6 months ago
@rockyeuenguino I knew you had to know what a Christian is (anyone who spends time on YouTube would have to). That's why I didn't explain (you weren't looking). Witnessing shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction, but something that is led by the Holy Spirit (see the example of Jesus who said only what He heard the Father saying). While this wasn't the time to tell you the Gospel, maybe it WAS the time to remind you of Ephesians 4:29, "Let no unwholesome word proceed out of your mouth."
benfaust 6 months ago
@benfaust Great comeback...(;-1
rockyeuenguino 5 months ago
@rockyeuenguino I deleted your comment because of the profanity. It sounds like you don't know much about your own mind or how little control you have over it. And if you don't even know what a Christian is, the rest of this video isn't going to make any sense to you anyway.
benfaust 6 months ago
This was interesting, but lack of thought is the enemy of creativity and innovation. IMO, the problem with the world today is people not thinking things through.
TheSTDStudios 6 months ago
@TheSTDStudios Uncontrolled chattering actually gets in the way of creativity and innovation. Studies have shown that regular meditation (silencing the mind) increases both.
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 You could say the same thing about anything -- getting in shape physically, getting a better education, earning a living... Nothing happened to "blessed are those who are pure in heart." Your comment really doesn't make any contextual sense. Quite the opposite, actually. The mind is a key player in the things you mentioned, and disciplining the mind is highly beneficial to them all. We don't stop living and growing until we're perfect. Growth in any area helps all the rest.
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 "Quite the opposite" of making contextual sense. And it's the sermon on the "mount." (Spelling correcting in exchange for gramatical correction.)
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 Nor would they need doctors, diets, or the gym... ?
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 As long as you don't do any exercise, or engage in any secular education (including medicine, architecture, and mathematics), and you don't watch TV, then you might have moral posture to say I'm doing something wrong by talking about meditation. Otherwise, you're promoting a double standard, and are unwittingly claiming your own gut reaction is equivelant to Biblical truth (which you need to brush up on.. it's "MOUNT" not "MOUND"... lol). Then maybe YOU will need "nothing else."
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 Aha, so you're really just upset that I'm selling something. I thought your other points were pretty strange, considering your love for Alan Watts. Is he where you got the idea that selling a "how to meditate" program is wrong? (Maybe that was in his book on Zen that he sold?) And once again, it's "mounT," not "mounD." That one's free. ;o)
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 That's actually "you cannot serve God and mammon (or money)," not "man." Of course you can think for yourself. You obviously think you can also think for others. You're imposing your own view of the Bible on others (which makes your posting of Alan Watts videos very relevant), and say that I don't live by the Bible simply because I sell a meditation course. Who set you up as God, to deal out judgment on others who don't agree with your own ideals and interpretations?
benfaust 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 By the way, I mentioned Alan Watts' book simply because he SOLD it, and yet you post his videos. He can sell books about Zen, but I cannot sell audio programs about meditation. You really need to step back and examine your double standard and true motivations before you continue to attack me because I've somehow upset you.
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 My point was he obviously doesn't "upset" you even though he did the same thing I'm doing, that same thing which supposedly is what "upsets" you. Leave Watts out of this? There is no "this." You're engaging in an unreasonable attack, and your supposed motivation falls to pieces under the slightest bit of reason, yet you still cling to it. I'm not going to waste any more time on this idiodicy.
benfaust 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 One last response to your comments... The two passages of Scripture you quoted were misquotes, and you have posted no videos besides ones from someone entranced by Zen. And yet you are condemning me for not living according to (your understanding of) the Bible. You really need to demote yourself in your own eyes to the station you really occupy. Try a little humility -- it will open your eyes.
benfaust 6 months ago
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TheDiceMan6 6 months ago
@TheDiceMan6 You're only fooling yourself. Your first comment stated that the problem was that Christians don't need to meditate, they need to obey the Bible. By the end of this discussion, if it can be called that, you changed your "reason" to the fact that I sell instructional programs (which you don't fault Watts for). Your problem is with your emotional response, not an actual wrong done. I suggest you try working for a living. It may offer some incredible insight.
benfaust 6 months ago
Nice video here!
ukyou1988nana 6 months ago
Awesome job! Thumbs up!
2000ViewsPlease 6 months ago
The meditation the scripture encourages is not the type many think about today such as in yoga. In keeping ones cool, well the scripture reads to do so and an apostle said "be wrathfull YET DO NOT SIN, DO NOT LEAVE OPEN A WAY FOR THE DEVIL. One that does not are ones that are " Prooving false to GODS Power"
Brooklynbed1 6 months ago
@Brooklynbed1 Yes, I made that point as well that the meditation mentioned in Scripture isn't the same thing I'm talking about. Please re-listen to the video (perhaps without as much mental chatter so you can hear everything that's actually being said), and then if you still hear something you think Scripture says is false, send me a private message and we'll discuss it.
benfaust 6 months ago
@benfaust YEah I listened to it all, laughed abit and still do not hear what you say you pointed out. But as you asked for helping you out, well there is your true help accept it. To explane meditation can bring danger if done wrong and not understood. So meditaion in scripture means to think about or better yet to digest the food that GOD gives which is what Jesus said we are to live by " every word coming from GOD's MOUTH".! Mostly action is what shows love" there many words do not get to GOD"
Brooklynbed1 6 months ago
@Brooklynbed1 You're right, I must be thinking about Part 1 of the program, in which I explain the difference between the type of meditation I describe and the words in the Bible translated "meditation," which are better translated "contemplation" or "thinking about." You said explaining meditation can bring danger. This is a misleading statement, and is not appropriate, given the information contained in the program. If shutting our mental mouth for a few minutes is dangerous, God help us all.
benfaust 6 months ago
The first scripture you qouted, is a light or guide, for us to be carefull of your tounge. Hence Prverbs is the "book" of wisdom. As a christian, or true christian, we know that we do have a bit of power inorder to follow scriptures in the cases where our power fails we rely on God almighty and his son Jesus Christ. In this way "it is not by OUR power ALONE".
Brooklynbed1 6 months ago
@Brooklynbed1 Instead of posting a bunch of comments, let's discuss this in private messages. I did point out the distinction in this Scripture, and pointed out that if "in the abundance of words (does not say spoken) transgression is unavoidable," then the principle carries over.
benfaust 6 months ago
sooo im a Jehovahs witness and growing up as one we are taught to always read the bible. When we preach to others always show in the bible where it is to the one u are preaching to so they know its not something u didnt make up. i looked up ur scriptures and ur missing alot of good points when u quote them. U left out words which makes it a whole different meaning. The Ephesians one was pretty close.
XBlueFireflyX 6 months ago
another thing is there r 2 Thessalonians so u might want to verify which one so u dont confuse ppl. For 1 samuel u forgot to say gods name which is clearly stated there, Jehovah. also we have full control over our own mind jehovah does not control it. he wants us to think for ourselves. chose who we wanna worship. Thats the whole point of y we r still here so we can show for ourselves that we wanna worship him, he wouldnt force us cuz he wants us to love him unconditionally.
XBlueFireflyX 6 months ago
@XBlueFireflyX No, we usually don't really have control over our minds. The context of that statement was made clear in the video, and experience confirms this fact. I don't think you comprehend what I said. I quoted 1 Thessalonians 5:18 (which I specified in the video)... As Christians, we know "God" means "Jehovah." I said that 1st Samual said "God looks at the heart." I was simply making a paraphrased statement of fact. Your "must say 'Jehovah'" teaching has made you miss the point.
benfaust 6 months ago
@XBlueFireflyX I'd be interested in discussing this with you. Comment space isn't a good place, since it would require multiple comments to carry on a discussion about what you've found, what version(s) you referenced (I placed the exact quotes for most of them on the screen and didn't leave out any "words"), etc. So feel free to send me a private message and we'll discuss this further.
benfaust 6 months ago
@benfaust actually id reather let others see so they can learn as well. i dont think this has to be a private thing. im not saying u r wrong, i looked up all the scriptures and u left our gods name and words were changed. like i said i grew up reading the bible ever since i was 4 so i catch mistakes easy. im a proud strong christian. what is stated in the bible should be said clearly and completely. try showing that ur looking them up maybe show the camera were u r reading. might help.
XBlueFireflyX 6 months ago
@XBlueFireflyX If I ever see I'm wrong, I'll remove the video. The words were not changed. If you have a version the Jehovah's Witnesses say is the only correct one, you're probably being deceived. I quoted using the NKJV. The Bible was the first book I ever read, and I have also been reading it since I was a young child. I am reading from a script. It's a nice idea to "show that I'm looking them up," but is quite unreasonable. If you can't discuss personally with me, silence is acceptable.
benfaust 6 months ago
as for meditation its nothing u have to pay for, its u reading the bible(gods word) and pondering over what u read. seeing how u can apply it in ur life, how u can use it to better urselve and become closer to our father jehovah god. there is not website thats gunna make u meditate better, its just u Gods word and jehovah god. Im sorry i just need to correct u on these details that i think jah would greatly want In his preachings. hope u can learn somethings in my comments. now have a great day.
XBlueFireflyX 6 months ago
Thanks for the video. I like much, again thanks.
aaaa7777aaaa1 6 months ago
Where did u find me to become friends?
eskabarz90 6 months ago
@eskabarz90 To be perfectly honest, I contact a lot of people; most likely you posted a video in which I was interested or posted a comment on someone else's video.
benfaust 6 months ago
There is a kind of rumour that Christ went to India to hang out with the yogis and brahmin at some point during the 'lost years' of his youth (age 12 - 30).
cr0uchingtiger 1 year ago
i had "blibby blib" going through my head. Made up words don't count right?
MILLIONZofUS 1 year ago
@MILLIONZofUS lol... Many people do use words that mean nothing to them during meditation, but the point is to use that meaningless repetition to eventually take them into silence, or "the space between the thoughts." Unless you already meditate, you can't be expected to be able to silence your mind very long at all. Only a very occasional non-meditator can. I like your mantra though.. haha! ;o)
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust Thanks! Well, it's a start! :-)
MILLIONZofUS 1 year ago
you make some very valid points personally I have run into Christians that if you don't agree with their understanding of Father Yahweh's word ( God Almighty) they use character assignation to belittle you and your understanding I am just a follower of Jesus Christ I do not believe we should have structured worship I believe we need to live our life For Christ that to me means daily commitment to live as best I know how to honor God. Meditation to me is a mind vacation :)
ravenessex 1 year ago
Nice one!
Like your energy!
Kudos for trying to introduce new things to people!
As far as I know, meditation is not an alien concept in Christianity...
Tressco 1 year ago
Please avoid this man, he is a false prophet. The time is to repent ! not sit on your backside for Jesus is coming back.
walshybhoy1 1 year ago
@walshybhoy1 Your definition of a false prophet obviously doesn't come from the Bible, so where does it come from? And on what do you base your condemnation? It's risky business to judge a brother without Scriptural foundation for doing so. (And on a lighter side, are you not sitting on your backside right now?)
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust Of coarse it's scriptural, you are leading people astray. People should be hearing how to save their souls, Christians preach salvation and how to live like Jesus.
walshybhoy1 1 year ago
@walshybhoy1 Good. Then you can show me where in the Bible it describes me as a false prophet (or a prophet of any kind at all), and where it says I'm doing something to lead people astray. Otherwise, you just have an opinion that you've exalted to be the Word of God on the matter.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust You are leading people astray because you are not telling them why Jesus died and what it meant for him to die. Tell the people how to save their soul and not how to relax !
walshybhoy1 1 year ago
the single most usefull tool i have found to get out of my head is from a qi gong practice, you touch the tip of the toung to the roof of the mouth and simply be aware of your breath, while deeply breathing... the chinese say it is a banana for our monkey mind
Tuzzie902 1 year ago
@Tuzzie902 Yes, that's definitely a great method. I like that -- "a banana for our monkey mind." haha! Thanks for the comment.
benfaust 1 year ago
Well this is my take. Proverbs is a proverbs and it's not talking about the abundance of words in your mind. But the abundance of words coming out of your mind. Someone being talkative just like you said. Someone who likes to talk a bit too much. And yes thoughts come into our mind, but we are to control them. We are to say no to the ungodly thought and yet to the godly ones. Every day I go through this and through the Holy Spirit yes you can control your thoughts in the sense of discarding.
NuevaGeneracion3 1 year ago
@NuevaGeneracion3 Good points. However, that applies only the your thoughts that are in the form of words. As you learn to have a more silent mind, you'll start seeing a much deeper current of thought that is beyond the normal mental chatter. We can't control (or redirect) those thoughts if we can't even see them. However, anyone I've known who has truly started watching every single word they think, has become quite bothered by the never-ending chatter. It really is a lack of self-control.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust Well in my cause and many other cases. The devil bring thoughts into our mind to give some example: fornication, lying, cheating, etc... However, we have the choice to keep thinking about them or reject them from the get go. When a thought comes into your mind, it's your choice to keep thinking about them or not. That's why the Bible says we need to bring every thought to obedience and how it tells us to think of everything that is good.
NuevaGeneracion3 1 year ago
@benfaust Also doesn't the Bible says that one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self control? And doesn't it say to live by the Spirit and we will not gratify the desires of the nature. I care for you man and I will ask you to be very careful with what you are teaching. Cause it seems that you are changing the source of our sanctification which is the Holy Spirit. The Bible speaks not of meditation the way you speak of it, but it speaks about the Holy Spirit. Be careful with what you teach.
NuevaGeneracion3 1 year ago
@benfaust Cause you might be doing and leading others to do practices that God doesn't approve of. And we as leaders, and teacher are responsible for what we tell the people around us and God will judge us for those things. If you really would base yourself in the Bible, you will know that God's answer is the Holy Spirit. God bless you.
NuevaGeneracion3 1 year ago
@NuevaGeneracion3 Yes, the Holy Spirit empowers us to live a holy life. But He isn't limited to only doing so "invisibly" or in some way we have come to expect. For example, God might provide for someone by encouraging their employer to give them a raise, or by sending someone to pay their bills, or He may open a door of schooling or employment. Just like the gym is man-made but can benefit, so sitting in silence can be a very healthful thing to do. (continued...)
benfaust 1 year ago
@NuevaGeneracion3 (...continued) There are many people who, without prescription drugs, would do evil things because their body's chemicals are imbalanced; yet few would suggest they trust only in God (while rejecting His help because its form doesn't seem spiritual enough). If learning to sit in silence "feels" evil to you, you'll do well to stay away from it. But many things "feel" evil to us that are not so for anyone else, and aren't contrary to Scripture. The spirit of fear is not of God.
benfaust 1 year ago
well you have to clear out the clutter in the front of your mind, normally that's journaling like three pages a day when you first wake up, then, after you take out the trash, you're open to new, um, consciousness & creativity etc..that's been my experience, doesn't mean i do it every day, learned that years ago in an art class, right now i'm all hung up on manifestations and literally ascensions and descensions..so..perplexing
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 if you want to get on your right path though..i think..
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
Meditation is for EVERYONE, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduist, Atheist, Paganist, etcetera ... ;-) Meditation opens door to the Truth and I'd rather love to learn more via meditation than via any spiritual book! I'm a Universal Spiritualist which means that I believe in God as a Unity, we're all pieces of God, all CHILDREN of God and yes, I'm monotheist too, as we ALL are dealing with the RIGHT SAME SOURCE (God) ... Don't look at DEVIDENCE but look at COMPARENCES ;-)
yeapsystar 1 year ago
I rarely watch t.v.(just something I'm not really in to), ur mind should never be completely cleared otherwise He would'nt say let this mind which in u be which was also like Christ Jesus(He didn't meditate)His mind was on His Father's business(as ours should be), if u keep ur mind on Him, He'll keep u in perfect peace Is.26:3, set ur mind on things above Col 3:2. U MUST FIRST ADDRESS UR HEART & UR MIND WILL CHANGE...It starts with the heart & God helps u with that not u independantly.
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 I'm not sure how you know Jesus was never quiet, but I encourage you to dig into your beliefs concerning this and find out where they really come from. Since Jesus never sinned, and since "in the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable," it's pretty clear that Jesus' mind wasn't full of endless babbling. Let's get back to the Bible, and stop condemning things based on our feelings.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust I NEVER said Jesus wasn't quiet, there r times 2 talk & times 2 hush as I'm about 2 do after I say this-it depends on ur def of meditation, if ur meditating on Jesus there's nothing wrong w/ that, BUT if u mean N the form of meditation as N eastern & sum western practices, u might wanna do ur research on the origins of it & u might understand where I'm coming from. There's no need 2 get upset cause I don't agree w/ u, I NEVER WILL(on this subject) I kno better that's all..I'm DONE =)
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 I'm not upset. I just thought you might want to find a more solid basis for your beliefs than just "knowing" something is wrong. Just being silent (inside and out) can be labeled "Eastern." Interestingly, the number zero has its origin in Budhist concepts. If you watch your thoughts long enough, your own constant babbling will disturb you, and you'll want to learn how to close your mental mouth. Judging others for this is not a Godly thing to do..
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust I NEVER judged ANYONE, we're talking about a practice not a person..smh. I simply addressed ur question, if u didn't want a response y would u ask a question?? Uve basically attacked me for answering ur question(which speaks volumes concerning ur true beliefs). If ur meditating u might wanna rethink it, being that it's not helping u when it comes to RESPECTING others' views...I hope one day u come into the knowledge of the truth, I'm done with this convo, have a good day sir.
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
The "Holy Spirit" is the answer. It speaks to u & comforts u, reading ur word & praying is what causes u to keep ur mind stayed on Him, when hit with trouble, worry, etc BELIEVE in God! how do u believe? Doing what the Word says will cause u to be victorious in ur walk and ur mind will be ur servant, the flesh(mind) does not like submitting to the will of Christ, READ, PRAY, BELIEVE! (don't meditate on that, DO IT)
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 I agree with you. But we're talking about two different things. You're talking about what is necessary for walking the Christian walk. Eating a good diet and exercising aren't necessary for that, but they're very beneficial, as is meditation. You don't have to meditate to be a Christian, and meditating in itself cannot connect you with God. But it does raise your IQ, decrease your tendency to react to stress in destructive ways, and helps with watching and controlling thoughts.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust Actually we are suppose 2 take care of our temples, God moves thru us & if we're dead He can't do that so we need to be healthy so that we can do things(physically). Meditation leaves an open door in a spiritual realm that is NOT connected to God & it is DANGEROUS. The Holy Spirit decreases ur tendencies to react in destructive ways & helps u die to flesh(meaning renewing ur mind, casting down vain thoughts, etc). It takes time & DISCIPLINE but it can be done WITHOUT meditation.
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@benfaust Just as it takes time to learn to meditate, a christian can spend THAT TIME learning to die to flesh, learning to let the Holy Spirit lead them. Meditation causes ur spirit to be open thus leaving u open for something other than the Holy Spirit to enter...it's a BIG NO-NO. Glad u posed the question tho =) ppl really need to kno the truth =D
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Our temples include our minds. The mind isn't the spirit; rather, the spirit dwells within the body and the mind. Just out of curiosity, what is the foundation of your belief that meditation opens spiritual doors? I've heard that, but have never been given a reasonable basis for that claim, and have certainly never seen it in Scripture. "In the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable" refers to the inside and out. Saying being quiet a few minutes is dangerous, is baseless.
benfaust 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Concerning the time factor... If you never watch television, perhaps this is a good argument. Television quickly creates an altered state of consciousness and "opens doors" for whatever flashes in front of your eyes. It lowers I.Q., worsens ADD, and is all around bad for you. Sitting quietly instead will raise your I.Q., improve ADD, and is excellent for your health. If you want to spend more time praying, give up television to do it, not meditation.
benfaust 1 year ago
The Hebrew word hagah and Greek word meletao is also translated as meditate, it simply means to muse or devise.. in other words, a form of introspective self-dialog where you focus and chew on one particular idea... I suppose to do this there would be some element of clearing of stray thoughts though, but doesn't mean you might not refer to thoughts if it's helpful to the subject you're pondering about.
rojaszela 1 year ago
The Hebrew word suwach used when refering to isaac meditating means quite the opposite of clearing your thoughts. It actually means to focus on one particular thought (as if with uncertainty of the meaning of something).
rojaszela 1 year ago
@rojaszela Thanks for the comment. The word used for what Isaac did is not used elsewhere in the Bible, and its full meaning can only be assumed. It might have been pondering a single thought, or not. I personally started noticing how insane it is to not be able to stop mentally chattering when I started putting into constant practice the passages concerning watching our thoughts. To anyone not doing that at all times, having times of mental quiet might seem strange and unnecessary.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust The concordance said the meaning is uncertain, I thought it THAT was the definition, haha.
About the verse you quoted from 2 Corinthians 10, it 's telling us to keep our minds ready to resist imaginations (arguements) or anything that "exalts itself against the knowledge of God" so that our thoughts can be kept "in obedience to Christ" (in other words, to keep from making mental excuses). Think of it as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
rojaszela 1 year ago
@rojaszela The tricky thing there is that we have many "imaginations" about which we don't even know. After developing a less chatty mind, you'll be amazed at all the wordless thoughts you start to uncover. And "in the abundance of words, transgression is unavoidable," applies to words period -- inside or out. Ask the average person what they're thinking about, and they will often have no clue. Learning to have short times of quiet and rest is a very good thing to do.
benfaust 1 year ago
Olá benfaust seja bem vindo a minha rede de amigos,gostei muito de seu vídeo,sou brasileira mineira e gostaria que quando for possivel que venha nos visitar e conheçer nosso Brasil pois aqui é muito lindo.Um grande abraço.
Walquiria Molina
DRwalquiria 1 year ago
Wow, the first verse is so wrong here. It says, In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise. KJV.
Lawgiver777 1 year ago
Did jesus meditate?
Larendria 1 year ago
@Larendria Scripture doesn't say he did, and it doesn't say he didn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't go to the gym, but that has nothing to do with whether anyone else should. He never used a sword, but the Bible says those who are called to do so are ordained by God.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust lol
Larendria 1 year ago
@Larendria No He didn't..Simple answer, Renew ur mind N Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit leads u. We shouldn't worry abt things cause God is N full control. Submit ur will 2 Him & even whn something unplanned happens it will work out 4 the good of those "who r N Christ Jesus" KNOW WHO HE IS & who u r in Him, do as the word tells u & ull b victorious N ur walk. Even Jesus endured hardships YET He remainded sinless, full of power/anointing, & STEADFAST. Read ur word, pray, & keep ur mind on Him=)
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Uhh, i don't believe that jesus is or was god, sorry man.
Larendria 1 year ago
@Larendria I'm sorry to hear that =(
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Don't be, when i did believe in him i was depressed and suicidal, because he created hell, he is a monster. I've found peace without him, he's never been real, i stopped wasting my time.
Larendria 1 year ago
@Larendria Actually, I had went thru something like that, I almost had a nervous breakdown & I blamed God for EVERYTHING because I felt He could have stopped it & He allowed it to happen to me(i witnessed a murder, I had a hit out on my life, I lost my job, my house, & I was dealing with an addiction to cocaine that I couldn't kick). I was seeing things & being tortured by demons LITERALLY, & I wanted to die!! I was soooo tired, U HV NO IDEA, but I told God "if ur real, u gotta show me"...
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
I was a lesbian & lost friends, I had nothing 2 lose I told God I surrender myself & I need help if u don't help I'm gonna admit myself 2 an institution or kill myself SOMETHING HAD 2 HAPPEN, when I did that I asked this lady @ the church 2 pray 4 me I said "I needed 2 know if He was real & I didn't want any doubts," she prayed 4 me, that night when I went home I went 2 sleep EVERYTHING CHANGED!!I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT cause u probably wouldn't believe me, that was 11 yrs ago, I'm married w 3 kids =)
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Please don't confuse your experience with mine. Thank you.
Larendria 1 year ago
@Larendria There's no confusion there, I was simply telling u SOME of the reasons "I" had a problem with God, those were MY experiences(some). I was just saying I had became suicidal @ one point & those were some of the reasons, idk what urs were, those were mine, but WHATEVER THE SITUATION, God IS the solution & He really could/can help.
Sugabear1976 1 year ago
@Sugabear1976 Don't be, when i did believe in him i was depressed and suicidal, because he created hell, he is a monster. I've found peace without him, he's never been real, i stopped wasting my time.
Larendria 1 year ago
Interesting words! My song "Change My Mind" relates to this topic somewhat..YAH BLESS!!
BRUTHAWAR 1 year ago
Interesting words! My song "Change My Mind" relates to this topic somewhat..YAH BLESS!!
BRUTHAWAR 1 year ago
Certain types of meditation are actually dangerous for some people.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Thanks for the comment. Some types of food are dangerous for some people. But food is definitely a good thing, and everyone should eat it. It's up to each person to determine what foods, and what type(s) of meditation, are best for them.
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust I would suggest that people with psychiatric problems keep well clear of Centering Prayer as taught by Thomas Keating. It is advisable that one have backup from a trained psychotherapist. It is amazing what can come up in Zen Sitting. Some folks can be overwhelmed and become ill.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
Indeed meditation would be a good thing for everyone to practice, the down side however is that lots cristians only believe what they want to believe and what is convienient for them, most of them don't even read the bible...
And for lots of people even the association with boedism/hindoeism will frighten them and they won't even give it a chance...
PS: Nice to see another sane/rational cristian on the tubes ;)
Geertpieter 1 year ago
doesn't bringing every thought into captivity mean to meditate on those things which are pure, holy, etc.so if we catch ourselves, we can turn it around and choose to think and meditate on good things? i highly doubt it means making sure we're not hinking bad thoughts in order to be holy. cause then we'll wear ourselves out. Dont you think?? please add with truth to my converstaion
gnawaserge 1 year ago
@gnawaserge You make a good point. Sadly, that the average mind today has a problem doing even what you said. 1) We don't know what we're thinking most of the time. Try asking someone lost in thought what they're thinking about. 2) Many can't keep focus long enough to effectively change bad thoughts to good. Learning to have times of silence is not for the cause of never thinking again. God came up with thinking, and when it doesn't control us, it's good. Meditation helps us see and direct.
benfaust 1 year ago
Prayer is actually a form of mediation.
Anapana is the best form of mediation to clear your mind and if you do it properly your wisdom increases exponentially and in the quiet you accept the essence of God. Words can't speak of God, but feelings are in perfect connection with God.
Logicbeatslies 1 year ago
" Living in the heart doesn't mean charging our brothers and sisters $ to help them find their totem animal "
Living in the heart means preserving the traditions and Culture of the Old Ones and they deserve our respect. Their healing meditation ceremonies were never for sale.
eursweet7 1 year ago
I played a tone in my head to avoid words going thru my head; it’s easy as long as I have no distractions.
Skylinerealities 1 year ago
@Skylinerealities Great method! Different objects of focus work better for different people. Perhaps a good one for you is sound (that works very effectively for me as well). Do you have experience with meditation, or did you just come up with the idea of producing a mental tone?
benfaust 1 year ago
@benfaust Well, I came up with the idea at the spur of the moment however I did touch into meditation back in acting school but we used a physical tone such as humming not a mental tone such as I used last night watching your video, thanks for getting back with me.
Skylinerealities 1 year ago
it boring trying not to think for 15 seconds.
RBHILL300 1 year ago
@RBHILL300 you can't try not to think. it defeats the pourpose i think. Christian meditation instead is deaing with meditation on gods word and what it teaches, not on making our minds blank cause then it fills our mind with whatever.
gnawaserge 1 year ago
@gnawaserge "Trying" not to think is not the point. Disciplining ourselves to not constantly babble in our heads is completely Scriptural. If you're addicted to constant words (in the abundance of words...), then you have an addiction you need to break. It's not possible to completely empty your mind. It IS possible to learn how to not be constantly chattering. Only then will you be able to start recognizing all the not-verbal thoughts you think that right now are hidden from you.
benfaust 1 year ago
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RBHILL300 1 year ago
Yes we are ruled by our weakness, as in your video blog on thought's. The Bible explains the weakness of the flesh. The one true God, "I AM", explains throughout the
the scriptures that he understands our weakness. It is our walking in the way and the light of the Lord that accepts his love. Sadly, many use one verse or a portion of a verse to explain God's word. We all must remember the WHOLE BIBLE explains God's word. . . Peace be with you.
xtaxplayer 1 year ago