Four-fingered salute, Bernardine...the Weather Underground's show of awe and respect for 'pig-hating Charlie Manson' and his hippies for knifing and stabbing (a fork was found in Sharon Tate's 9 month pregnant belly) innocent people in 1969. They were all slaughtered to death. Manson told his followers to use the victim's blood to smear on the walls such nicities as, "Death to Pigs", "Rise", "Kill the Pigs"...and the W.U. went public to 'salute' Manson's call to duty to kill "Pigs". Remember?
@cldump What vile crap. What part of freedom of speech don't you get? As for their "crimes" of 40 years ago, they were not able to be sentenced because the REAL criminals were the FBI pigs who broke FAR more laws, and the greatest pig of all, Nixon. To worry about bombs which killed NOBODY but ignore the hundreds of thousands we murdered in the war is crazy.
And even if they HAD killed people, killing THEM doesn't bring anyone back to life. Capital punishment is always wrong.
What's happened is simple--people lied about what was said, and represented. They did NOT salute or encourage Manson NEVER told people to kill their parents. Yes, bombs were planted-ask napalm victims in Vietnam how much sympathy that earns. They ABSOLUTELY DID NOT say they wished they'd planted more bombs. Ever.
The blasphemy against Jesus Christ of saying I'm not a Christian for refuting your lies and opposing the mass murder of American Imperialism is as foul as can be. Nothing could be MORE Christian.
Your quotes and claims are lies. They did not come from anything these people EVER wrote or said, but from an organized far right campaign of slander. You're a tool for the true terrorists, the true murderers.
So, Boris, when you bellow DO SOME RESEARCH!! (of which I've done plenty) you don't really mean do research, you mean "believe the lies of the discredited pigs whose actions were so sleazy and dishonest that all charges were dropped, and don't believe the people who were actually there." The radical right never believes in doing real research, or in real news, history, or science, but in their own propaganda.
@PrisonerNumber9653 So who are you so in love with...Bill or Bernardine? You have no thinking ability left. I go by what they themselves have proclaimed, from their own books, newspaper photos (some which they orchestrated themselves, especially their group photo heralding the four finger salute in honor of a fork that was used to kill an innocent at the scene of the Manson murders), and on T.V. speeches and interviews. It's all there, jackass.
@Boris82much I'm not in love with either. You think "thinking ability" means "going along with whatever the pigs say, however much proof they're lying there is". No, you are NOT going by what they've proclaimed. They NEVER advocated people killing their parents, or killing police officers. This LIE about them honoring Manson is like the lies about Martin Luther King "beating up prostitutes", the feds cooked up slanderous lies about people, and fools like you believed them.
@PrisonerNumber9653 OMG you are just plain dumb, a true airhead. And you're a CHRISTIAN?!? REALLY?? LMAO!! You call the police and government 'pigs' and you play make-believe about these home-grown terrorists and you claim to be a CHRISTIAN??? I aint a part of the radical right as you've assumed. Man you are koolaid-jaundiced up to your eye balls with fantasies and lies. Ayers and Dohrn both loved the media back then and they both are on numerous tapes saying all this shit. Get a life. Go read.
@Boris82much The idea that it's not "Christian" to put human life ahead of blind loyalty to military and cops shows you've not a clue who Jesus Christ is. Yes, I DO call those who destroyed lives in an attempt to promote a radical political agenda pigs. Hoover was a pig. The cops who murdered Fred Hampton were pigs, the cops who dishonestly and illegally infiltrated peace and civil rights groups including Dr. King's inner circle were pigs.
There are NO tapes of them saying ANY of this, liar.
@PrisonerNumber9653 So either Ayers authored a bunch of grandiose lies about what he and Dohrn and the W.U. conspired to do--especially about the making of and teaching bomb-making skills, as well as the planting of bombs at several locations--or he was telling the truth. Which is it??? Unless some bizarre actress impersonating Dohrn told a crowd how cool what Manson and his chicks did with a fork, during the Sharon Tate slaughtering...then who was it???
@Boris82much If it wasn't Ayers, Dohrn and several members of the W.U. that posed for a photo shoot to salute Manson, their arms raised with four fingers at attention in honor of the fork used in the killing of one the victims, then who were they??? I'll betcha you justify to yourself that it was the PIG FBI causing the poor W.U. all those problems. How totalitarian of you, prisoner. So, what is it? Was Bill lying about the W.U.'S glory days or WHAT? Lots of TV interviews and photos on file.
@Boris82much No, YOU have authored grandiose lies, YOU have made up absolute shit, drastically altered what REALLY was said. NO, they did not EVER advocate killing peoples' parents. Ever. Yes, they DID plant bombs, and it was the right thing to do, given what they were trying to stop, which you've NEVER admitted was wrong, the murder of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam. Dorhn NEVER said Manson was "cool", that is a lie. NOBODY did. YOU are the one lying.
@Boris82much NOBODY said Manson was cool. Ayers is telling the truth, YOU are lying, cooking up phony quotes and mis-stating what was said in others (for instance, he NEVER said he wished they'd have done more bombing)
I lived back when Ayers and Dohrn were scaring the crap outta people. They loudly and insistently advocated for young people to kill their parents, kill police officers and politicians...blow up banks and government buildings, blow up everything. No more personal income, no more inheritance, no family and marraige values.
So...Ayers and Dohrn got married, had children, allowed mommy and daddy to pay their way through college, bought and have lived in very expensive neighborhoods. Hypocrites.
@Boris82much Despicable lies. They did not EVER advocate ANY of those things. EVER. They did not advocate killing ANYBODY, unlike our government which was murdering thousands every month.
There's nothing hypocritical about them getting an education, which SHOULD be free for all, and using it to make a better world. Had they gotten degrees and gone into business and gotten rich, THAT would be hypocritical.
@PrisonerNumber9653 Oh God please at least DO SOME RESEARCH before you open that hole of a mouth of yours and once again make a fool outta yourself. They sure as fuck did advocate violence. All you base your stupid worship of them on are from books, probably their books, and the sweet, warm n' fuzzy, boring lectures they give. And last time I checked the bomb-making teachers go down for murder and violence right along with the gullible students they recruit to light the fuses.
@Boris82much I've done plenty of research, far more than you have, obviously. They did NOT advocate killing parents, or cops. Yeah, how DARE someone read books instead of just listening to the lies of Fox "news" and hate radio?
I don't worship them, or anyone but Jesus Christ. If you find their lectures boring, if they're over your head, feel free to not go.
Why are you whining about them, and not about the US murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent Asians in that awful war?
@ddboris dear Stupid...I would LOVE IT IF THEY ADMITTED WHAT THEY DID WAS CRAP, AND THAT THEY WERE CHANGING THEIR POINT OF VIEW. But alas, they say they wished they had bombed more, caused more damage and fear and death.
@Boris82much Again, bald-faced lies. Despicable, bald-faced LIES. They did NOT say they wished they'd bombed more. EVER. They did NOT say they wish they'd caused more damage, fear and death. EVER. You are LYING.
If what these people did was so awful, just telling the truth would be damning. That the right has to cook up these preposterous lies is very, very telling.
no, they haven't changed their point of view, because it was and is right.
Poor,poor little RICH BITCH, born and raised in the kind of wealth most of us can only dream of, and this cunt pretends for its entire life to hate capitalism, and abuses her wealth to destroy innocent people and entire countries, AND HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED FOR ANY OF IT!!!! FUCK LEGALITIES,THIS BITCH AND HER BITCHIER HUSBAND ARE MURDERERS AND TRAITORS - EXECUTE THEM!!!!
It's only cool if The Rich Get Richer........if the Rich in question are LEFTIST.
@Substantive64 Wow, truly scummy. She didn't "pretend" anything. She didn't abuse anything. What country did she "destroy"? UNLIKE the US Government, murdering thousands and destroying countries for greed and hate.
She wasn't punished because the cops were FAR more criminal. "Fuck legalities"?? So, you don't care about the constitution?
and they work for universities, they have NOT gotten richer. Teachers don't make that much. They're good people and still live by what they believe in.
"She didn't "pretend" anything. She didn't abuse anything. What country did she "destroy"? UNLIKE the US Government, murdering thousands and destroying countries for greed and hate."
She and her rich privilege-abusing psychos set off several bombs that murdered at least 5.
"Fuck legalities"?? So, you don't care about the constitution?
Radical Leftist devils like HER don't care for the Constitution;they abuse it,to claim "loop holes" it it,allowing them to get away with MURDER and Treachery.
It funny, looking back today, how seriously these comfortably bred sons and daughters of upper middle class european immigrants were taken.
If the idea was to take not to conform to the picket fence and then that's allright, But while liberals are navel gazing over their wicked civil society, China will steal your lunch ...not with Dohrn's socialism but with their faster, harder working capitalism
I'd love to smack that old bag commie in the face.
flyboy7588 3 months ago
The greatest respect for Bernardine and her friends. And I add: affection.
Those Weather People madesure that it was impossible for me to hate all Americans. Bless 'em.
DrMerkwuerdichliebe 4 months ago
Four-fingered salute, Bernardine...the Weather Underground's show of awe and respect for 'pig-hating Charlie Manson' and his hippies for knifing and stabbing (a fork was found in Sharon Tate's 9 month pregnant belly) innocent people in 1969. They were all slaughtered to death. Manson told his followers to use the victim's blood to smear on the walls such nicities as, "Death to Pigs", "Rise", "Kill the Pigs"...and the W.U. went public to 'salute' Manson's call to duty to kill "Pigs". Remember?
Boris82much 6 months ago
When distilled down to its basic elements, Ayres and Dohrn STINK ON ICE.
No further explanation is required.
Yermak29 8 months ago
these people should be killed
cldump 9 months ago
@cldump What vile crap. What part of freedom of speech don't you get? As for their "crimes" of 40 years ago, they were not able to be sentenced because the REAL criminals were the FBI pigs who broke FAR more laws, and the greatest pig of all, Nixon. To worry about bombs which killed NOBODY but ignore the hundreds of thousands we murdered in the war is crazy.
And even if they HAD killed people, killing THEM doesn't bring anyone back to life. Capital punishment is always wrong.
PrisonerNumber9653 8 months ago
What's happened is simple--people lied about what was said, and represented. They did NOT salute or encourage Manson NEVER told people to kill their parents. Yes, bombs were planted-ask napalm victims in Vietnam how much sympathy that earns. They ABSOLUTELY DID NOT say they wished they'd planted more bombs. Ever.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
The blasphemy against Jesus Christ of saying I'm not a Christian for refuting your lies and opposing the mass murder of American Imperialism is as foul as can be. Nothing could be MORE Christian.
Your quotes and claims are lies. They did not come from anything these people EVER wrote or said, but from an organized far right campaign of slander. You're a tool for the true terrorists, the true murderers.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
So, Boris, when you bellow DO SOME RESEARCH!! (of which I've done plenty) you don't really mean do research, you mean "believe the lies of the discredited pigs whose actions were so sleazy and dishonest that all charges were dropped, and don't believe the people who were actually there." The radical right never believes in doing real research, or in real news, history, or science, but in their own propaganda.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 So who are you so in love with...Bill or Bernardine? You have no thinking ability left. I go by what they themselves have proclaimed, from their own books, newspaper photos (some which they orchestrated themselves, especially their group photo heralding the four finger salute in honor of a fork that was used to kill an innocent at the scene of the Manson murders), and on T.V. speeches and interviews. It's all there, jackass.
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much I'm not in love with either. You think "thinking ability" means "going along with whatever the pigs say, however much proof they're lying there is". No, you are NOT going by what they've proclaimed. They NEVER advocated people killing their parents, or killing police officers. This LIE about them honoring Manson is like the lies about Martin Luther King "beating up prostitutes", the feds cooked up slanderous lies about people, and fools like you believed them.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 OMG you are just plain dumb, a true airhead. And you're a CHRISTIAN?!? REALLY?? LMAO!! You call the police and government 'pigs' and you play make-believe about these home-grown terrorists and you claim to be a CHRISTIAN??? I aint a part of the radical right as you've assumed. Man you are koolaid-jaundiced up to your eye balls with fantasies and lies. Ayers and Dohrn both loved the media back then and they both are on numerous tapes saying all this shit. Get a life. Go read.
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much The idea that it's not "Christian" to put human life ahead of blind loyalty to military and cops shows you've not a clue who Jesus Christ is. Yes, I DO call those who destroyed lives in an attempt to promote a radical political agenda pigs. Hoover was a pig. The cops who murdered Fred Hampton were pigs, the cops who dishonestly and illegally infiltrated peace and civil rights groups including Dr. King's inner circle were pigs.
There are NO tapes of them saying ANY of this, liar.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 So either Ayers authored a bunch of grandiose lies about what he and Dohrn and the W.U. conspired to do--especially about the making of and teaching bomb-making skills, as well as the planting of bombs at several locations--or he was telling the truth. Which is it??? Unless some bizarre actress impersonating Dohrn told a crowd how cool what Manson and his chicks did with a fork, during the Sharon Tate slaughtering...then who was it???
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much If it wasn't Ayers, Dohrn and several members of the W.U. that posed for a photo shoot to salute Manson, their arms raised with four fingers at attention in honor of the fork used in the killing of one the victims, then who were they??? I'll betcha you justify to yourself that it was the PIG FBI causing the poor W.U. all those problems. How totalitarian of you, prisoner. So, what is it? Was Bill lying about the W.U.'S glory days or WHAT? Lots of TV interviews and photos on file.
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much No, YOU have authored grandiose lies, YOU have made up absolute shit, drastically altered what REALLY was said. NO, they did not EVER advocate killing peoples' parents. Ever. Yes, they DID plant bombs, and it was the right thing to do, given what they were trying to stop, which you've NEVER admitted was wrong, the murder of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam. Dorhn NEVER said Manson was "cool", that is a lie. NOBODY did. YOU are the one lying.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@Boris82much NOBODY said Manson was cool. Ayers is telling the truth, YOU are lying, cooking up phony quotes and mis-stating what was said in others (for instance, he NEVER said he wished they'd have done more bombing)
PrisonerNumber9653 8 months ago
I lived back when Ayers and Dohrn were scaring the crap outta people. They loudly and insistently advocated for young people to kill their parents, kill police officers and politicians...blow up banks and government buildings, blow up everything. No more personal income, no more inheritance, no family and marraige values.
So...Ayers and Dohrn got married, had children, allowed mommy and daddy to pay their way through college, bought and have lived in very expensive neighborhoods. Hypocrites.
Boris82much 11 months ago
@Boris82much Despicable lies. They did not EVER advocate ANY of those things. EVER. They did not advocate killing ANYBODY, unlike our government which was murdering thousands every month.
There's nothing hypocritical about them getting an education, which SHOULD be free for all, and using it to make a better world. Had they gotten degrees and gone into business and gotten rich, THAT would be hypocritical.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@PrisonerNumber9653 Oh God please at least DO SOME RESEARCH before you open that hole of a mouth of yours and once again make a fool outta yourself. They sure as fuck did advocate violence. All you base your stupid worship of them on are from books, probably their books, and the sweet, warm n' fuzzy, boring lectures they give. And last time I checked the bomb-making teachers go down for murder and violence right along with the gullible students they recruit to light the fuses.
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much I've done plenty of research, far more than you have, obviously. They did NOT advocate killing parents, or cops. Yeah, how DARE someone read books instead of just listening to the lies of Fox "news" and hate radio?
I don't worship them, or anyone but Jesus Christ. If you find their lectures boring, if they're over your head, feel free to not go.
Why are you whining about them, and not about the US murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent Asians in that awful war?
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
@Boris82much ,maybe they realise what they believe in, was crap, and like any inteligent human they change their point of view...unlike you
BTW, commit suicide old fart,you're a disgrace to your family...
ddboris 10 months ago
@ddboris dear Stupid...I would LOVE IT IF THEY ADMITTED WHAT THEY DID WAS CRAP, AND THAT THEY WERE CHANGING THEIR POINT OF VIEW. But alas, they say they wished they had bombed more, caused more damage and fear and death.
Your proctologist called: they found your head.
Boris82much 10 months ago
@Boris82much Again, bald-faced lies. Despicable, bald-faced LIES. They did NOT say they wished they'd bombed more. EVER. They did NOT say they wish they'd caused more damage, fear and death. EVER. You are LYING.
If what these people did was so awful, just telling the truth would be damning. That the right has to cook up these preposterous lies is very, very telling.
no, they haven't changed their point of view, because it was and is right.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
Poor,poor little RICH BITCH, born and raised in the kind of wealth most of us can only dream of, and this cunt pretends for its entire life to hate capitalism, and abuses her wealth to destroy innocent people and entire countries, AND HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED FOR ANY OF IT!!!! FUCK LEGALITIES,THIS BITCH AND HER BITCHIER HUSBAND ARE MURDERERS AND TRAITORS - EXECUTE THEM!!!!
It's only cool if The Rich Get Richer........if the Rich in question are LEFTIST.
Substantive64 1 year ago
@Substantive64 Wow, truly scummy. She didn't "pretend" anything. She didn't abuse anything. What country did she "destroy"? UNLIKE the US Government, murdering thousands and destroying countries for greed and hate.
She wasn't punished because the cops were FAR more criminal. "Fuck legalities"?? So, you don't care about the constitution?
and they work for universities, they have NOT gotten richer. Teachers don't make that much. They're good people and still live by what they believe in.
PrisonerNumber9653 10 months ago
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"She didn't "pretend" anything. She didn't abuse anything. What country did she "destroy"? UNLIKE the US Government, murdering thousands and destroying countries for greed and hate."
She and her rich privilege-abusing psychos set off several bombs that murdered at least 5.
"Fuck legalities"?? So, you don't care about the constitution?
Radical Leftist devils like HER don't care for the Constitution;they abuse it,to claim "loop holes" it it,allowing them to get away with MURDER and Treachery.
Substantive64 10 months ago
radical chique
It funny, looking back today, how seriously these comfortably bred sons and daughters of upper middle class european immigrants were taken.
If the idea was to take not to conform to the picket fence and then that's allright, But while liberals are navel gazing over their wicked civil society, China will steal your lunch ...not with Dohrn's socialism but with their faster, harder working capitalism
baconsplace 1 year ago
Is she still alive? Too bad it was Tate instead of this sicko.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
Snore.
You and your socialistic buddies have failed, Bernie. You're going down in flames and I for one will not miss any of you.
Move to Cuba. Castro says now that Marxism FAILED his country and people.
Boris82much 1 year ago