New Additions - 07b: It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a Sun Dog!

[TStormGuy]

Very cool video. Perfectly understands what is happening here on YouTube. Someone sees a sundog, film it and than claim that it's a Nibiru, UFO, or chemtrails.

[GhostOfMorrison]

I just want to say that a day after I learned about sundogs, I saw them! I never noticed them before, but it was there this morning at sunrise. Thx 3WMElliot for the lesson. It was cool to actually see it!

[3WMElliott]

@GhostOfMorrison Good good, now keep an eye out for the umpteen other optical phenomena that can be seen, halos, upside down rainbows, light pillars... loads of things to see.

[GhostOfMorrison]

@3WMElliott I've seen halos and a full circle rainbow. been in a heat-lightning storm. Saw the aurora borealis in NY back in the 90s, (I was 5ish and my dad pulled the car over so we could get out and look).

What do you mean by light pillars? The things that are also called 'Rays of Buddha' that appear when the sun is behind the clouds?

[3WMElliott]

@GhostOfMorrison Your Buddha Rays are Crepuscular Rays (gotta admire the names of some of these things), Light Pillars go back to ice crystals once more, different types, shapes, arrangements, but basically make vertical beams of light in the skies.

And, confusingly, there are some Crepuscular rays that are mistaken for light pillars, so it's no wonder so many people aren't quite sure what they're looking at. Always looks cool though - I can't think of a boring example.

Other than rainbows...

[purplerach]

this is rach, i said id come and have a look, is this your voice then????

xXx

[3WMElliott]

@purplerach Tis indeed, welcome to the nerdy nonsensical world of Nibiru claims.

[stevecast65]

Nothing against you Elliot, but with the things that I personally have learned in the past years, and the media telling me that toxic subsances are good for me. I have a hard time trusting any scientific opinions, regardless the source. Scientists still disclaim chemtrailing, even after the government admits to making them. Scientists also claimed that Americans walked on the moon, although they still can't explain how astronauts survived passing through the Van Allen belt.

[3WMElliott]

@stevecast65 Nothing against you steve, but there are countless articles written by scientists regarding all things Apollo. Indeed, Dr. Van Allen himself has said that the belts named after him do not give fatal doses of radiation to the astronauts. I think I'd take his word for it...

The problem of course, is that this goes against what conspiracy theorists believe, and so these scientific, fully sourced rebuttals and debunking's don't even get acknowledged, let alone read by them.

[stevecast65]

@3WMElliott No sir, I don't agree with you at all. You see, for years scientists told me that the mercury based preservatives in vaccines were harmless. Then scientists told me, no mercury is toxic. Which by the way is true, and now some scientist has convinced the media to tell me that mercury is healthy. Plus, to my knowledge sir, no single measurement has ever been taken of the Van Allen belts to prove that they are not lethal. Perhaps if the Scientific community would stop contradicting

[stevecast65]

@stevecast65 CONT: itself on various topics, stupid uneducated people such as myself would be somewhat easier to convince that a single scientist on this planet has any more idea than the next person with a logical sounding hypothesis.

[GhostOfMorrison]

@stevecast65 Have you ever done the prism experiment? This is that principle happening trillions of times every 1 bilnth of a second (nanosec)

You can choose what you want to believe in. That is the ist amend of this country. But to turn a blind eye to all science and absorb 'truths' from all alternate sources isn't the answer. There are 'truths' within science as well...

Within what we know about weather and phys., though not complete or always correct the first time, there ARE hardened facts.

[3WMElliott]

@stevecast65 "Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria." When understood and used properly, it's good for you.

"One of China's emperors, Qín Shǐ Huáng Dì was killed by drinking a mercury and powdered jade mixture (causing liver failure, poisoning, and brain death) intended to give him eternal life." When misunderstood and misused, it's bad for you. [cont]

[3WMElliott]

@stevecast65 There are a few notable tests regarding the Van Allen belts - the Apollo astronauts themselves. The only affect that has been seen as a direct link to radiation is the onset of early stage cataracts. As oppose to, say, death, two heads, superpowers.

Science also doesn't do single measurements, it is an ongoing process that demands repeatability. The belts have been studied for years, in detail, and if they were found to be a threat, why would you fly 30odd astronauts through them?

[anotherising]

Elliot can you please comment on a vid named - (Nibiru in China, The Red Dragon)

Its not at the same distance above the horizon as the sun, and not at 20 degrees

thanks

[3WMElliott]

@anotherising Pretty sure I did somewhere, or at least on one of the many times that video has been uploaded in its various guises.

My comment was mostly that there is not enough information for me about which way we're facing, what time it was, weather and so on, and the video compression hardly helps either.

But of course, if I say all these things and end with "By all means call it unidentified until we do know a bit more", it translates to some people as "Nobody knows! Must be Nibiru!"

[anotherising]

@3WMElliott

I wonder why no one else has gotten some shots of the same thing.

Lets not forget the oilspill, sry to change topic but im werry worried about that and a so called media blackout around and in the areas

[3WMElliott]

@anotherising If you were responsible for the biggest oil spill in US history, would you really want to see photos of Dolphin's drowning in it?

But yes, back on topic, I have no problems with people calling something unidentified, asking for ideas and info and so on, but I do have a problem with people who state what something is and then proceed to not offer any supporting evidence - as you say, alternative footage for example.

Science demands it to be testable, simple as that.

[tcline614]

@3WMElliott Thank you, thank you, and thank you again for posting this. It's amazing how a little question mark changes a whole statement around that has no tangible proof or can be verified. Here, watch this it's easy: ? ? ? ? ? ?

[anotherising]

good one

[nutwithatheory]

Its nice to see a counter video for the "two suns" stuff popping up everywhere. I especially enjoyed the end with regards to ruling out the mundane before jumping to the fantastic.

[SiriusMined]

You mean that rainbows aren't a sign from God after the flood? ;-)