There's one thing about watching many of your videos that really confuses me... how are you able to put down a pokemon that's an evolved pokemon? Don't you have to put down zubat > golbat > crobat?? I recently started playing TCGO and i've never seen anyone do that.
PS: I want to buy a booster box that will be legal when the rotation is done and i'm a starter. Which one would you recommend? :) I have a green tornado deck right now with some extra B/W cards. TY mister pokemaster! :D
Just a small note: If you are forced to proxy, then at least keep 1 copy of the 'right' cardnext to the game, so you can show the real card when you play the proxy. For people who don't know the cards you're proxying, this can be useful.
Hey youtube I am doing a free raffle for a free code for the Red Frenzy (Emboar) theme deck. To enter just subscrie to my channel and send me a pm or leave a comment and like green my Tornado Theme deck opening saying (enter me.)The raffle ends when I have 50 or 100 subscribers I will decide on how fast everything goes.
however, if your opponent has a powerspray (usually 3 in a deck) and 3 SP pokemon in their starting hand, they're really lucky. Even if they go 1st and get a Cyrus off, the odds of 3 sp pokemon and a power spray are still low, but 1 power spray doesn't really even cripple the deck, just slows it down a tad.
Very nice strategy! Played the game back in Jr. High and was ranked in the top 10 in my state! The game sure has changed! Great job!
Words of advice: 1.) Keep the videos shorter, more people will watch them. 2.) Explain each card's ability better. For many of us, we aren't familiar with the cards.
@JWittz How do you usually get the good cards you need for decks, by trading or buying them? I do hear you say you barrow many cards from your friends for your tournament decks.
@Igotnoskillz I'd assume he does, that or he could simply go through and write one out. however he may assume that since he drew his entire deck you could grab a note pad and figure it out your self. just saying...
This is horrible and I agree with how bad things are getting, but I wouldn't be surprised if half the people who end up using this deck got the idea from this video, ignoring that they would figure it out later anyway. Also, your sleeves are awesome.
@elmosgun11 i think he used the video as a tool to tell people to use this deck so that TPCI will deem the format unhealthy and perform midseason rotation
I am on board for signing that petition, I think the main target for this game (being the kids) are going to be hurt the most. Many kids go and play their favorite pokemon in the decks they run. now when they play at nationals the decks they choose will lose 70% of the time? thats just wrong and there will be lots a kids in the lower devisions that may not handle being donked three to four times out of their eight or nine rounds very well. I'm pretty sure parents will be just as upset.
Yu-gi-oh is almost as bad as Pokemon in terms of the competitive scene... Ridiculous combos that you can hardly do anything about... More and more luck dependant
set a time for each turn? Having sitting there for approx 10-15 minutes seeing opponent draw out everything plus all those in between I would automatically scoop seeing someone eating up time frame .. ZZ
its even worse... with a 14 basics list, you'll start with sableye in almost 47% of all games. so you got a donk chance of about 74% if i didnt miscalculate. (not involving tomb/whatever)
The only card that Yu-Gi-Oh! ever had that worked close to how SableDonk worked, wasn't that Yata-Garasu only that it focused on hand discard to win a.k.a. "Yata Lock"? I remember how ridiculous that deck was back in the day especially with Delinquent Duo which was also banned.
I definitely support this petition to get Play! Pokemon to do their jobs and provide a reasonably playable format. It would also be nice to see a consistent and complete ruleset, but that's another debate for another day. As I said above about math, I don't feel like doing procedural proofs in youtube comments either. :p
Da truth! I'm 99% confident that TPCi will make an announcement after Regionals pertaining to the obvious issues with the format with the new rules. They've just been way too quiet lately.
Power Spray isn't too disruptive. It's very unlikely that one would open 3 SP Pokemon and a Power Spray in a 7 card hand, as opening 3 basic SPs is already unlikely. Furthermore, if one did have such an open, one extra heads on a Super Scoop Up allows the Set-Up to continue uninterrupted, and we all saw the plethora of SSUs, Junk Arms, Dual Balls being used and granting access to the entire deck. If SP goes first, it may lose anyway, as it would require benching 4 basics or multiple sprays.
2.Go to Formulas>More Functions>Statistics>DIST.HIPERGEOM
3.Put from up to botton 1;7;4;60(put false on logic if needed)
4.1 is the number of the card that you want. 8 Is the number of cards in your hand(With Draw) 4 is the nuber of copies in this case 60 is the number of card in the deck
6.Use Enter on the formula.
5.Take the result and multiply by 100 boom here goes the dinamite(LOL) you have now the probabilty.
According to my calculations, you will start with Sableye 50.82%. Here is my logic: Odds of drawing Sableye in 1st card is 4/60 => 6.67% *Odds of drawing Sableye in 2nd card is 4/59 => 6.78% *...3rd card is 4/58 => 6.90% *...4thcard is 4/57 => 7.02% *...5th card is 4/56 => 7.14% *...6th card is 4/55 => 7.27% *...7th card is 4/54 => 7.41% * = assuming you don't have Sableye yet so if they play spiritomb, you win 37.5% but you made your point clear in my opinion... thanks JWittz!
Luckily Sableye should be rotated out at some point soon.. Whether in august or sooner.. But I think I just kinda died a little inside watching this.. =l
1) I completely agree with you. These new rules are out of hand and should be changed. I would suggest that the first player can play trainers,stadiums, supporters, etc. but cannot attack. You also mentioned this rule before in your previous video about "Donk-Less" formats, so it should workout well.
2) Those card sleeves are AMAZING!!! Where did you get them from? Please respond.
Victory Medal is so damn hard and expensive to get a hold of. The cheapest I've found it for is $40, which for me is too much for a situational trainer card. Instead I replaced it with reasearch records which is a much better consistency card as it helps optimize uxie draws.
This really is just insane. But shouldn't you be playing a collector or two? VS Spiritomb it should be awesome. I'm almost 100% sure that I'll play this for nats. I acctually liked the fact that they changed the rules because now I can play something else than Luxchomp without investing tons of money :P
@Flopsy62 The fact that you don't even play the game adds zero credit to your argument. You play Yu-Gi-Oh! It's an entirely different card game--the only card that Yugioh ever had that worked even close to how this deck does are banned. The only misplay I made was the one Colin pointed out, where I could have played a poketurn from my deck at the end and saved the junk arm for one more flash bite. I drew the entire deck--I don't really see what was played in the "wrong order".
@TheJWittz So true. I picked up two of the world champ decks just to see if I wanted to invest money into the game, pokemon players have soo many cards that let them add instantly from deck to hand. It's crazy fast compared to most if not all yugioh decks.
@TheJWittz o my god this is going to suck unless they do somthing soon, JWittz i do want to thank you for everything you do i only been play for a year now and your video's have helped me soo much this past weekend i made top 8 and i truly think your video's help me do it so thank you so much
So you've been learning statistics.............*SUBSCRIBE, SUBSCRIBE, SUBSCRIBE*, just kidding but your calculations are correct though xD.
But yeah, I still don't think Sableye will be bad enough to get banned. It'll win a few tournaments, but as far as I see it the format will be roughly Sabledonk > Sp Engine > Tanks with Spiritomb > Sabledonk .
If it does end up dominating battle roads, then that'll probably be the best time to ban/eratta it before it can dominate nationals as well.
@Phrid that isnt an auto win for you, if he gets sableye, the dark energy, and a crobat (and uxies to even further increase this chance) he can kill Tomb and you will have to get another one out on your first turn
or if the opponent does run collector, regice and Unown dark/azelf, he can impersonate for the pokemon he needs to either kill tomb next turn (you need a second one or a turn on plume) and then he will just kill you from there
@PkMnTrainerAzZona He said he ran 1 special dark, and from what I saw, 3 bats(?). If he starts with all 3 of those (20% chance or some shit like that) then so be it, but I have a much higher chace to start with a tomb+any other basic. Also, if you are going for the donk, you aren't playing collector, simple as that.
More proof that this deck is vile and the format needs a fix. On the plus side, my Unown R and Dusk Balls are now awesome trade fodder. But seriously, I think that if you want to play donk decks, then play them in Unlimited, where the format is more conducive for high speed decks like these. I'm praying for another Neo-Genesis play from Pokemon and a mid-season rotation, but I'm not putting too much into it. Time to build fun decks and play the little kids at league for points...
@MachSpeedRocket because he deserves to have to have a power spray in his hand and 3 SP pokemon on his bench on the set up to be able to survive first turn before he can draw or play a supporter?
@PkMnTrainerAzZona@SHlNeeFAN@AronFigaro You don't understand. If he already had enough luck to start with 240 HP on the field, why can't he just have a little more? Is God laughing at him?
@MachSpeedRocket Assuming in his opening hand of seven cards, with three pokemon in it, he HAD a spray, AND he still hit triple tails on super scoop ups, etc. Yes, it gives him another chance, but it's not actually a huge statistical effect. I don't feel like doing all the math in a youtube comment, but suffice it to say it's in the realm of 8%.
This format is honestly so stupid. This just illustrates exactly how luck-based the game has become, which discourages those who actually practice and put time into it to get better... I know that I don't want to go to a high-level tournament after weeks of practice and get beat by some scrub playing shuppet or something, yet it's a definite possibility. It's instances like this that are driving good players away from this used-to-be-great game, and toward others that are much more skill-based.
wow, even more broken then I thought. I will definatley sign that petion if it's online, and tell other players I know to sign it. I really hope they fix this as I was planning on going to nationals, but I won't if the rules stay the same. I want a rule postponing to september as most people who learnt from the decks probably won't be going to nationals or worlds. I would hate to see a sableye ban, but I'd take it over this messed up format. also where did you get those awesome sleeves ?
Best list I've seen, like how there is 1 dark 1 seeker and no collectors, could u pm me that list? Or r u goin 2 make me have to figure it out myself and rite down every card I see
I played my Gyarados deck at league this past saturday, WITHOUT Sableye, and even just from how abusive the current Gyarados build is, it's so stupid an not fun. But it's not even safe if they change it RR on since even though SP loses out on its engine, Arceus becomes an explosive deck without Machamp in the format or disruption to oppose it since it runs its own exclusive engine. The only real format that would be sane at all is HGSS on, and that goes against the decision made last year.
pretty sure you're suppose to DRawer/ drawer into seeker/ drawer when comboing off at 14:30. played shuppet donk for the entirety of last season and it feels like playing prosbloom
JWittz, For accurate statistics on opening starts type your deck into pokepedia..net and go to analyze. For what I think is your build a chance to start sableye in a non-mulligan hand is actually 45%.
@TheWolfWarrior25 Well, I'm too keen on the Yugioh format. All I know is that they ban and limit cards as opposed to rotating sets. And I heard recently that there aren't any definitive decks like LuxChomp that win most of the time.
And I dunno why they did that so soon either. So the solutions on the table are either ban Sableye, tweak the rules or a midseason rotation. Neither of those choices are without a downside.
He's really overeager so your luxchomp just might die!
Sableye in the sky~
He's gonna sweep your whole bench cause he's speedy as a fly!
Being serious, card is far too overpowered. I've said this quite a few times now, but I really don't think Pokemon International was paying much attention to us before they made the rule changes. The community discussed this for quite a while now, so its a rather huge disappointment.
I think the probability of drawing Sableye is a bit higher. If the probability of drawing Sableye on the first draw is 4/60, assuming you didn't get it, the next is 4/59, 4/58, etc. Adding all of these draws, the probability is about 49.18%. These rules need to be fixed or this one card will just ruin the game.
@hgssprime With expert belt and special dark you only need to flash bite garchomp once--Expert Belt gives you 80 HP and allows you to hit for 70 damage
@TheJWittz Well you but what I meant is I was thinking you were gonna flash bite it just enough times to be able to KO it with over confident and then go after ambipom or the other garchomp. lol
@hgssprime Oh I see what you're saying. Because you need to limit their bench to 1 to clear a pokemon with seeker, you have to get a knockout with flash bites first
@TheJWittz Ya, it would work the same lets say if you flashbit ambipom to death and then flash bit the active and seekered up the other garchomp. Haha That's just the experience I've had against uxie donk was that the always damaged my bench first so I assumed that that's what you were going to do here haha
@TheWolfWarrior25 And since Japan isnt even doing qualifiers, or maybe not even entering worlds, that should be less reason to follow those rules to the key.
@strg9 Yeah I didn't really put that into perspective--I just wanted to explain the damage that you can do. However, assume an sp deck runs 10 SP basic pokemon--they will start with those 3 sp pokemon or more in hand is around 8%. Combine that with the probability of starting with a Power Spray (assuming they run the full count of 4), and the probability for a hand with 3 or more SP basics and at least one Power Spray is somewhere under 4% of the time, so the scenario is pretty rare.
Glad to see that dual ball I threw in our trade from a while back is actually seeing some use :D I really enjoy these kind of videos. I remember when I was first getting back into the TCG that I watched your shuppet donk playthru atleast 5 times and it taught me a lot. These videos are very helpful to newcomers and everyone that plays. I hope you will post more videos of playthrus or full matches. Did that marker leak onto your playmat? Hopefully the format will rotate when B&W is released.
you should get 1 turn after your field is cleared of pokemon. draw a card and if you can't search out a pokemon then you're donked. if you can, game goes on. it would also make donk decks un-playable cause they'll deck themselves. just my 2 cents.
I have such bad memories of that deck.
TheKeatonWarrior 1 week ago
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ikyogre1 1 month ago
Can you message me the deck list please?
ikyogre1 1 month ago
love your webcast...can we get a deck list of this version of Sabledonk thanks
VadenZen 2 months ago
Bit late their all roatated out
Pokefenn 2 months ago
was wandering if u can send me a decklist...? :)
Sforschondetta 6 months ago
Can i have the card list of that deck???
KcoKT 7 months ago
MINDFUCK! Holey Fucking Shit.
That is so cheap.................I WANT THAT DECK :3
ConradStriker 8 months ago
i'm glad sabledonk is not allowed anymore, it REALLY seems REALLY boring playing against it, sitting for 20 minutes doing nothing, yeay....
EmolgaInSpace 8 months ago 5
could u get me one of those playmats ill give u money
draggontammer911 9 months ago
OMG
leandrotokarevski 9 months ago
There's one thing about watching many of your videos that really confuses me... how are you able to put down a pokemon that's an evolved pokemon? Don't you have to put down zubat > golbat > crobat?? I recently started playing TCGO and i've never seen anyone do that.
PS: I want to buy a booster box that will be legal when the rotation is done and i'm a starter. Which one would you recommend? :) I have a green tornado deck right now with some extra B/W cards. TY mister pokemaster! :D
chinimasse 9 months ago
@chinimasse The reason he can directly play Crobat is because it is an SP Pokemon which are evolved Pokemon which can be played as a basic
flord10 9 months ago
@chinimasse For sure, for sure; get a heart gold soul silver booster box.
PokemonBOTE 8 months ago
where did you get the sleeves
samaphant123 9 months ago
my god start spiritomb haha u lose
MasterESW 9 months ago
hey could you show us what is exactly in this deck????
mandalman11271 9 months ago
j wittz do you have a zekrom deck if you do can you please make a vid of it
manuelsanto1 9 months ago
Just a small note: If you are forced to proxy, then at least keep 1 copy of the 'right' cardnext to the game, so you can show the real card when you play the proxy. For people who don't know the cards you're proxying, this can be useful.
StealthAngel667 9 months ago
Turn 1 Win and decked with this deck this deck is good except you use a 3rd of the time that you are allowed in tourneys.
:/
squareboy889 9 months ago
Hey youtube I am doing a free raffle for a free code for the Red Frenzy (Emboar) theme deck. To enter just subscrie to my channel and send me a pm or leave a comment and like green my Tornado Theme deck opening saying (enter me.)The raffle ends when I have 50 or 100 subscribers I will decide on how fast everything goes.
Pokemonmaster809 9 months ago
Sweet decklist. Just curious though, why do you run 2 expert belts? Just worried about facing Special Dark/Seeker and Expert Belt prized?
yuffenough 10 months ago
2questions:
1) can the opponent play pokespray on turn 1?
2) if he can, can't he pokespray ur setup?
jackywho13 10 months ago
@jackywho13
1.) yes
2.) yes
however, if your opponent has a powerspray (usually 3 in a deck) and 3 SP pokemon in their starting hand, they're really lucky. Even if they go 1st and get a Cyrus off, the odds of 3 sp pokemon and a power spray are still low, but 1 power spray doesn't really even cripple the deck, just slows it down a tad.
kazambolt 9 months ago
Sorry forgot to metion in my last post can't this deck be easily stopped with a spiritomb lead?
thgrabbagofallthings 10 months ago
Hi I am new to competetive tcg pokemon.....Why do you have cards turned around in you deck?
thgrabbagofallthings 10 months ago
What if the guy you're versing hase 4 power spray in there hand
simonson084 10 months ago
Very nice strategy! Played the game back in Jr. High and was ranked in the top 10 in my state! The game sure has changed! Great job!
Words of advice: 1.) Keep the videos shorter, more people will watch them. 2.) Explain each card's ability better. For many of us, we aren't familiar with the cards.
CyFiStudios 10 months ago
Where.
Did you.
Get
Those sleeves?
bloodymonkey5 10 months ago 2
Where did you get your custom playmat
LordHydron 10 months ago
@JWittz How do you usually get the good cards you need for decks, by trading or buying them? I do hear you say you barrow many cards from your friends for your tournament decks.
ninjaguysvideos 10 months ago
decklist pls
TheFayk23 10 months ago
Big news from Poke beach says pokemon is think of mid season rotation to HGSS in jun july ish! if not then next rotation it will be hgss anyways
b10003 10 months ago
awesome vid :) also could I just ask where did you get those awesome black and White sleeves??? :D
MagicInferno96 10 months ago
Hey how did you get that play mat?????????????
MRrsps10 10 months ago
are you actually going to play this deck in a tourney?
PkMnTrainerAzZona 10 months ago
Do you have an exact decklist?
Igotnoskillz 10 months ago
@Igotnoskillz I'd assume he does, that or he could simply go through and write one out. however he may assume that since he drew his entire deck you could grab a note pad and figure it out your self. just saying...
RagingDelibird 10 months ago
This is horrible and I agree with how bad things are getting, but I wouldn't be surprised if half the people who end up using this deck got the idea from this video, ignoring that they would figure it out later anyway. Also, your sleeves are awesome.
elmosgun11 10 months ago
@elmosgun11 i think he used the video as a tool to tell people to use this deck so that TPCI will deem the format unhealthy and perform midseason rotation
riskderic 9 months ago
HOLY MOLY MACARONI!!
DojiSan 10 months ago
I am on board for signing that petition, I think the main target for this game (being the kids) are going to be hurt the most. Many kids go and play their favorite pokemon in the decks they run. now when they play at nationals the decks they choose will lose 70% of the time? thats just wrong and there will be lots a kids in the lower devisions that may not handle being donked three to four times out of their eight or nine rounds very well. I'm pretty sure parents will be just as upset.
Number1ruleinpokemon 10 months ago
HGSS-on! PLS COME SOONER!
SHlNeeFAN 10 months ago
Yu-gi-oh is almost as bad as Pokemon in terms of the competitive scene... Ridiculous combos that you can hardly do anything about... More and more luck dependant
psychickofsoldier 10 months ago
I'm gonna stencil a "Stop Sableye" t-shirt.
I would gladly send you one when I'm finished.
VIEWOSCOPE 10 months ago 12
set a time for each turn? Having sitting there for approx 10-15 minutes seeing opponent draw out everything plus all those in between I would automatically scoop seeing someone eating up time frame .. ZZ
Yoonyul89 10 months ago
so you lose if they have a powerspray on that first uxie drop.
XxMalcolm 10 months ago
its even worse... with a 14 basics list, you'll start with sableye in almost 47% of all games. so you got a donk chance of about 74% if i didnt miscalculate. (not involving tomb/whatever)
dupWillGetYou 10 months ago
The only card that Yu-Gi-Oh! ever had that worked close to how SableDonk worked, wasn't that Yata-Garasu only that it focused on hand discard to win a.k.a. "Yata Lock"? I remember how ridiculous that deck was back in the day especially with Delinquent Duo which was also banned.
456jm 10 months ago
I definitely support this petition to get Play! Pokemon to do their jobs and provide a reasonably playable format. It would also be nice to see a consistent and complete ruleset, but that's another debate for another day. As I said above about math, I don't feel like doing procedural proofs in youtube comments either. :p
AronFigaro 11 months ago
I hate this deck pokemon will make a change (i hope) :P
Trashboy66 11 months ago
WHAT SET IS CROBAT AND UXIE FROM
ANYBODY?
pokemonbobby7 11 months ago
@pokemonbobby7 uxie is from LA (legends awaken) and Crobat G is from Plt
b10003 11 months ago
@pokemonbobby7 Uxie is from Legends Awakened. Crobat G is from Platinum.
AronFigaro 11 months ago
"Set up, draw 6"
"Power spray"
....
noobprz 11 months ago
@noobprz You do know how hard it is to start with 3 SP Pokemon and a power spray right?
LolitsTubeYou 11 months ago
@LolitsTubeYou Not too hard haha
GengarLVX11 11 months ago
@LolitsTubeYou I know its hard but it is possible so i am just assuming he had one
noobprz 11 months ago
Can I have a decklist you use?
GodWillem 11 months ago
Da truth! I'm 99% confident that TPCi will make an announcement after Regionals pertaining to the obvious issues with the format with the new rules. They've just been way too quiet lately.
SirRiddleOfNC 11 months ago
Hey man could you make a video were you play against a vilegar deck with that deck with the Black and White rules.
PoKePlAyEr04 11 months ago
Vilegar has Ghastly does this factor in if all
xixemptyxix 11 months ago
@xixemptyxix No, because Overconfident activates before Ghastly is able to attack. Good question though.
TeamPokeBreeder 11 months ago
But the SP player could have had a spray to spray the first Uxie, making it harder.
zaGlaceon 11 months ago
Power Spray isn't too disruptive. It's very unlikely that one would open 3 SP Pokemon and a Power Spray in a 7 card hand, as opening 3 basic SPs is already unlikely. Furthermore, if one did have such an open, one extra heads on a Super Scoop Up allows the Set-Up to continue uninterrupted, and we all saw the plethora of SSUs, Junk Arms, Dual Balls being used and granting access to the entire deck. If SP goes first, it may lose anyway, as it would require benching 4 basics or multiple sprays.
ReRavaged 11 months ago
I think your opponent sprayed the first Flash Bite.
GengarLVX11 11 months ago
Try this for test your own statistics:
1.Go to Excel if you run Windows
2.Go to Formulas>More Functions>Statistics>DIST.HIPERGEOM
3.Put from up to botton 1;7;4;60(put false on logic if needed)
4.1 is the number of the card that you want. 8 Is the number of cards in your hand(With Draw) 4 is the nuber of copies in this case 60 is the number of card in the deck
6.Use Enter on the formula.
5.Take the result and multiply by 100 boom here goes the dinamite(LOL) you have now the probabilty.
PHemidall 11 months ago
can u make a deck list for this deck ?
kplynx 11 months ago
holy cow! i just noticed how well you would do an Ernie impression
good thing not bad
USBYDProductions 11 months ago
The game should have been more realistic, as the SP player could have a Power Spray.
zaGlaceon 11 months ago
@zaGlaceon I agree, but even if he had 3 or 4 sprays he still would have hit with Flash Bite 8 or 9 times and still would have Setup 3 or 4 times.
lonewolfkliq 11 months ago
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jrmcracken 11 months ago
jrmcracken 11 months ago
Luckily Sableye should be rotated out at some point soon.. Whether in august or sooner.. But I think I just kinda died a little inside watching this.. =l
TrainerDerek 11 months ago
JWittz two things:
1) I completely agree with you. These new rules are out of hand and should be changed. I would suggest that the first player can play trainers,stadiums, supporters, etc. but cannot attack. You also mentioned this rule before in your previous video about "Donk-Less" formats, so it should workout well.
2) Those card sleeves are AMAZING!!! Where did you get them from? Please respond.
thesaviorshees 11 months ago
@thesaviorshees I bought the same cleeves @ hardrock-pokemon.
Just look it up on google
dialga8666 11 months ago
@dialga8666 k thanx dude.
thesaviorshees 11 months ago
What happens , if both player starts with sableye ?? witch player beginns ??
BoosterKracker 11 months ago
please check out my pm i just sent u thejbwittz
sajenmoeller 11 months ago
what about if your opponet starts with 3 sp pokemon and have POWER SPRAY
timejoker448 11 months ago
At least we won´t get these rules in the Finland´s nationals.:D
LuffyMcDuck 11 months ago
Victory Medal is so damn hard and expensive to get a hold of. The cheapest I've found it for is $40, which for me is too much for a situational trainer card. Instead I replaced it with reasearch records which is a much better consistency card as it helps optimize uxie draws.
Mitjitsu 11 months ago
Me and my friends have nicknamed it LEEROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JENKINSSSSSSSSSSS! Thumbs up if you agree. :3
DittoChu 11 months ago
This really is just insane. But shouldn't you be playing a collector or two? VS Spiritomb it should be awesome. I'm almost 100% sure that I'll play this for nats. I acctually liked the fact that they changed the rules because now I can play something else than Luxchomp without investing tons of money :P
Mewfan 11 months ago
You played a lot of the cards in the wrong order..
Flopsy62 11 months ago
@Flopsy62 how..
AustenEatsCake 11 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i dont play the pokemon tcg but you made several missplays. playing a lot of cards in the wrong order...
Flopsy62 11 months ago
@Flopsy62 The fact that you don't even play the game adds zero credit to your argument. You play Yu-Gi-Oh! It's an entirely different card game--the only card that Yugioh ever had that worked even close to how this deck does are banned. The only misplay I made was the one Colin pointed out, where I could have played a poketurn from my deck at the end and saved the junk arm for one more flash bite. I drew the entire deck--I don't really see what was played in the "wrong order".
TheJWittz 11 months ago 28
@TheJWittz Gravekeeper's in Yu-gi-oh donks ppl with one card: Royal Tribute
psychickofsoldier 10 months ago
@TheJWittz So true. I picked up two of the world champ decks just to see if I wanted to invest money into the game, pokemon players have soo many cards that let them add instantly from deck to hand. It's crazy fast compared to most if not all yugioh decks.
superstar0717 9 months ago
@Flopsy62 you don't even play pokemon...
RenaeCollects 11 months ago
@Flopsy62 ummm, you can play the cards whenever you want in pokemon.
...
squareboy889 9 months ago
How can you retire Pokémon?
AndrewXAnarchy 11 months ago
@AndrewXAnarchy "Retire" is the name of Unown R's Pokepower--it lets you discard Unown R from the bench to draw one card
TheJWittz 11 months ago
@TheJWittz o my god this is going to suck unless they do somthing soon, JWittz i do want to thank you for everything you do i only been play for a year now and your video's have helped me soo much this past weekend i made top 8 and i truly think your video's help me do it so thank you so much
b10003 10 months ago
That's ridiculous man, nice sleeves too.
Nabby111 11 months ago
You got the same sleeves as me :D
Also, if you have no victory medal whats a good replacement
dialga8666 11 months ago
That was a great video and really informative. It's solved all my questions about sablye donk.
It's just a shame that the format is so broken......
RogueGENGAR 11 months ago
those are some sick card sleeves!!!!!!! =D
McRgaara 11 months ago
I use the same grip when i write, that's freaky!
SuperSebben 11 months ago
So you've been learning statistics.............*SUBSCRIBE, SUBSCRIBE, SUBSCRIBE*, just kidding but your calculations are correct though xD.
But yeah, I still don't think Sableye will be bad enough to get banned. It'll win a few tournaments, but as far as I see it the format will be roughly Sabledonk > Sp Engine > Tanks with Spiritomb > Sabledonk .
If it does end up dominating battle roads, then that'll probably be the best time to ban/eratta it before it can dominate nationals as well.
ScottyB0303 11 months ago
First turn rape!
TerranceTheL33T 11 months ago
Josh, u definitely desreve this word
''Magician''.
Dragon100R 11 months ago
I have sableye/ unown R if u need PM me and we can trade on Pokebeach
autobot552 11 months ago
This is just frightening
Pokebro921 11 months ago
That fucking bonkers.. Idk if Icould play a format so... jwepuifgoefhgie
DesertFox1124 11 months ago
Amazing deck analysis; props to your understanding of the game.
Pokedude1013 11 months ago
The good news is,
I can still play magnezone.
PatVanProductions 11 months ago
What a coincidence that they're both Ghost/Dark Pokemon...
23slayer23 11 months ago
@23slayer23 And they both have no weakness, too! It's like they were destined to be rivals!
TheJWittz 11 months ago 4
I like carrying a donk deck and dice with me for the sake of killing time. It's a lot more fun than playing conventional solitaire.
KuiperDesu 11 months ago
BAN THE HECK OUT OF SABELYE!... and sprit tomb!
ashtonizzard 11 months ago
Ohh would you look at that, I started with a Spiritomb. Good game nigga.
Phrid 11 months ago
@Phrid that isnt an auto win for you, if he gets sableye, the dark energy, and a crobat (and uxies to even further increase this chance) he can kill Tomb and you will have to get another one out on your first turn
or if the opponent does run collector, regice and Unown dark/azelf, he can impersonate for the pokemon he needs to either kill tomb next turn (you need a second one or a turn on plume) and then he will just kill you from there
PkMnTrainerAzZona 11 months ago
@PkMnTrainerAzZona He said he ran 1 special dark, and from what I saw, 3 bats(?). If he starts with all 3 of those (20% chance or some shit like that) then so be it, but I have a much higher chace to start with a tomb+any other basic. Also, if you are going for the donk, you aren't playing collector, simple as that.
Phrid 11 months ago
@Phrid Shit 2% chance, not 20% lol
Phrid 11 months ago
there are ways to beat it.
TheAutoAim 11 months ago
the best part of the whole vid was those sleeves
ashtonizzard 11 months ago
13:35 not trying to be a smart alec but...garchomp c is actually a she.
saurfan 11 months ago
More proof that this deck is vile and the format needs a fix. On the plus side, my Unown R and Dusk Balls are now awesome trade fodder. But seriously, I think that if you want to play donk decks, then play them in Unlimited, where the format is more conducive for high speed decks like these. I'm praying for another Neo-Genesis play from Pokemon and a mid-season rotation, but I'm not putting too much into it. Time to build fun decks and play the little kids at league for points...
XdarkXritualX 11 months ago
when u post a video after they fix all this madness i will return to the game for now its pointless to play if u r just gonna lose before u even draw
dred500 11 months ago
also you dont get to rearange with alph just mentioning that for all players.
TheAutoAim 11 months ago
how usefull is that victory metal to your deck any way?
danthepyrusking25 11 months ago
The guy who starts with 2 Garchomp C and an Ambipom G while not Spraying that first Uxie drop deserves to lose.
MachSpeedRocket 11 months ago 24
@MachSpeedRocket because he deserves to have to have a power spray in his hand and 3 SP pokemon on his bench on the set up to be able to survive first turn before he can draw or play a supporter?
PkMnTrainerAzZona 11 months ago
@PkMnTrainerAzZona @SHlNeeFAN @AronFigaro You don't understand. If he already had enough luck to start with 240 HP on the field, why can't he just have a little more? Is God laughing at him?
MachSpeedRocket 10 months ago
@MachSpeedRocket still, power spray has requirements. starting with 3 basic sp pokemon is not very common.
SHlNeeFAN 11 months ago
@MachSpeedRocket Assuming in his opening hand of seven cards, with three pokemon in it, he HAD a spray, AND he still hit triple tails on super scoop ups, etc. Yes, it gives him another chance, but it's not actually a huge statistical effect. I don't feel like doing all the math in a youtube comment, but suffice it to say it's in the realm of 8%.
AronFigaro 11 months ago
-Facepalm-
Setzergabbini 11 months ago
Why pokemon Rescue? Unown R?
Rohert08 11 months ago
@Rohert08 Unown r just keep up the drawing and with pokemon rescue you can get back unown r and do it again.
hgssprime 11 months ago
ban Sableye. End of story.
shedininja001 11 months ago
This format is honestly so stupid. This just illustrates exactly how luck-based the game has become, which discourages those who actually practice and put time into it to get better... I know that I don't want to go to a high-level tournament after weeks of practice and get beat by some scrub playing shuppet or something, yet it's a definite possibility. It's instances like this that are driving good players away from this used-to-be-great game, and toward others that are much more skill-based.
MrDizzavis 11 months ago
Ive got those sleaves too =D
sdrawkcab190 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Opponent: umm, are you done yet?
pokeyugifan 11 months ago
bring it to regionals ill sign it in st.louis
stike41 11 months ago
u hold a marker weird
sajenmoeller 11 months ago
@sajenmoeller Yeah, it's how I've held my writing utensils my whole life. I've done it so long that I forgot it's not normal : P
TheJWittz 11 months ago
wow, even more broken then I thought. I will definatley sign that petion if it's online, and tell other players I know to sign it. I really hope they fix this as I was planning on going to nationals, but I won't if the rules stay the same. I want a rule postponing to september as most people who learnt from the decks probably won't be going to nationals or worlds. I would hate to see a sableye ban, but I'd take it over this messed up format. also where did you get those awesome sleeves ?
RagingDelibird 11 months ago
JWittz, you should send that to Pokemon Company International, so that they can hurry up and get rid of that blasted Sableye!
LuigisBestBuddy 11 months ago
Best list I've seen, like how there is 1 dark 1 seeker and no collectors, could u pm me that list? Or r u goin 2 make me have to figure it out myself and rite down every card I see
Ra2terra 11 months ago
Wow that deck is stupid...
HitmonRyan 11 months ago
Pokemon black and white made the video game into Digimon and the card game into YuGiOh....
PkMnTrainerAzZona 11 months ago
WoW
T.T
nuff said
fischerblader28 11 months ago
just one question j wittz.... you can basically use all ur trainers in one turn because you only got 1 supporter if im right
MrMasterGengar 11 months ago
I played my Gyarados deck at league this past saturday, WITHOUT Sableye, and even just from how abusive the current Gyarados build is, it's so stupid an not fun. But it's not even safe if they change it RR on since even though SP loses out on its engine, Arceus becomes an explosive deck without Machamp in the format or disruption to oppose it since it runs its own exclusive engine. The only real format that would be sane at all is HGSS on, and that goes against the decision made last year.
Lancun 11 months ago
pretty sure you're suppose to DRawer/ drawer into seeker/ drawer when comboing off at 14:30. played shuppet donk for the entirety of last season and it feels like playing prosbloom
Aewen1 11 months ago
JWittz, For accurate statistics on opening starts type your deck into pokepedia..net and go to analyze. For what I think is your build a chance to start sableye in a non-mulligan hand is actually 45%.
Gyarados11 11 months ago
@TheWolfWarrior25 Well, I'm too keen on the Yugioh format. All I know is that they ban and limit cards as opposed to rotating sets. And I heard recently that there aren't any definitive decks like LuxChomp that win most of the time.
ace0135 11 months ago
I would have just said that I scoop as I wouldn't want to wait 20 mins without even DRAWING a card.
kimng2 11 months ago
@TheWolfWarrior25 Man... Looks like Pokemon TCG might be in for a Dark age. No pun intended.
ace0135 11 months ago
@TheWolfWarrior25 My point exactly.
ace0135 11 months ago
Spiritomb.
KeeBsUYA 11 months ago
@TheWolfWarrior25 Yeah, I know.
And I dunno why they did that so soon either. So the solutions on the table are either ban Sableye, tweak the rules or a midseason rotation. Neither of those choices are without a downside.
ace0135 11 months ago
Sableye in the sky~
He's really overeager so your luxchomp just might die!
Sableye in the sky~
He's gonna sweep your whole bench cause he's speedy as a fly!
Being serious, card is far too overpowered. I've said this quite a few times now, but I really don't think Pokemon International was paying much attention to us before they made the rule changes. The community discussed this for quite a while now, so its a rather huge disappointment.
ThePKMNTrainerAndrew 11 months ago
I think the probability of drawing Sableye is a bit higher. If the probability of drawing Sableye on the first draw is 4/60, assuming you didn't get it, the next is 4/59, 4/58, etc. Adding all of these draws, the probability is about 49.18%. These rules need to be fixed or this one card will just ruin the game.
Aznviet92 11 months ago
Since you run expert belt and special dark you only needed to flash bite garchomp 3 times instead of 4
hgssprime 11 months ago
@hgssprime With expert belt and special dark you only need to flash bite garchomp once--Expert Belt gives you 80 HP and allows you to hit for 70 damage
TheJWittz 11 months ago
@TheJWittz Well you but what I meant is I was thinking you were gonna flash bite it just enough times to be able to KO it with over confident and then go after ambipom or the other garchomp. lol
hgssprime 11 months ago
@hgssprime Oh I see what you're saying. Because you need to limit their bench to 1 to clear a pokemon with seeker, you have to get a knockout with flash bites first
TheJWittz 11 months ago
@TheJWittz Ya, it would work the same lets say if you flashbit ambipom to death and then flash bit the active and seekered up the other garchomp. Haha That's just the experience I've had against uxie donk was that the always damaged my bench first so I assumed that that's what you were going to do here haha
hgssprime 11 months ago
JWittz which booster box do you think I should buy if It was up to you? Black and White base or Call of Legends? BTW great episode :)
keir1414 11 months ago
@TheWolfWarrior25 And since Japan isnt even doing qualifiers, or maybe not even entering worlds, that should be less reason to follow those rules to the key.
ace0135 11 months ago
couldn't they have just power sprayed ur uxie at 6:33 ? that would have ruined u.
strg9 11 months ago
@strg9 Yeah I didn't really put that into perspective--I just wanted to explain the damage that you can do. However, assume an sp deck runs 10 SP basic pokemon--they will start with those 3 sp pokemon or more in hand is around 8%. Combine that with the probability of starting with a Power Spray (assuming they run the full count of 4), and the probability for a hand with 3 or more SP basics and at least one Power Spray is somewhere under 4% of the time, so the scenario is pretty rare.
TheJWittz 11 months ago
hopefully pokemon won't go the same way as yugioh, having a ftk win worlds was just a joke and one of the main reasons i switched to pokemon
CrysisZero 11 months ago
Gay.
annoying1359 11 months ago
Just wondering, how do you keep your camera so stable above the play area? Do you have some sort of rig or tripod?
tamoo99 11 months ago
Glad to see that dual ball I threw in our trade from a while back is actually seeing some use :D I really enjoy these kind of videos. I remember when I was first getting back into the TCG that I watched your shuppet donk playthru atleast 5 times and it taught me a lot. These videos are very helpful to newcomers and everyone that plays. I hope you will post more videos of playthrus or full matches. Did that marker leak onto your playmat? Hopefully the format will rotate when B&W is released.
DittoLvX 11 months ago
absolutely hideous, not looking forward to nationals one bit.
CrysisZero 11 months ago
you should get 1 turn after your field is cleared of pokemon. draw a card and if you can't search out a pokemon then you're donked. if you can, game goes on. it would also make donk decks un-playable cause they'll deck themselves. just my 2 cents.
jimmyhirt 11 months ago
This was an amazing video that the Pokemon TCG company seriously needs to watch. Sableye is just ridiculous.
SagaciousSilence 11 months ago