Jillian Venters on Goth Ettiquette

[TheRoamingGnome2]

wats the girl sayin at the beginnin

[blackemogothgirl666]

I love her sooooo much!I wish we were related so then I could actually talk to her about goth stuff.hmmm......I'm gonna wait for the day that I will be out of school and be every bit as awesome as her.I just Goya wait a while it won't be long now.

[MadCupcake38]

I love this woman so much.She is so lovely She is an inspiration and I will be buying her book soon.

[ShounenRiku]

I love The Lady of the Manners. I bought her book for a baby-bat I took under my wing. She also has such great advice! <3 I want to meet her one day

[405OklahomaBrewing]

I love jillian her book helped me alot when dealing with non goths where i live

[xxgothgirlxx666]

I wish this lady was my mother!!!!!!!!!!

[GirtheAlienGoldfish]

She sounds British in her book, but then I found out she's American!

CONFUSION!!! XD

[alienvomit1]

i wish she was my aunt or something :)

[MizzArtiztic]

shes so great. i wish she would write another book.

[Butterflier00]

She is ADORABLE!!!!!

[InfurnusChaotix]

She is my HERO.

[sarahewright9]

I adore this lovely lady. I've gained so much from her insight and wisdom, and I really, really want... a closeup of her hairstyle. I wish to copy it.

[MCRhasAFireInside]

i REALLY wish i have money. i would totally buy her book. it sounds really interesting to read information about goths from a goth herself. she seems so cool and nice and down-to-earth.

[BOLSHEVIXTREME]

I'm gonna buy this book and show and read to their parents, thereby helping them see the error of their prejudice ways mind you, it might be a waste of time since they seem

To choose to accept conservative christian right propaganda other actual research and real literature

[JaggerWestenra]

I love Jillian Venters. I read her book and it was great.

[moyenage7]

This woman is so lovely!She's indead the lady of the manners and I would really love to meet her and chat with her!Jilian you ROCk!!!!!!!!!!!

[moyenage7]

This woman is so lovely!She's indead the lady of the manners and I would really love to meet her and chat with her!Jilian you ROCk!!!!!!!!!!!

[DeCaY45]

I am not a goth, however consider myself goth inspired in my aesthetics with a high fashion twist,lol and being a young man in my parents house hold they are not so accepting of it, they don't mind but only seem to see the negativity, anyways i love that she stresses on manners, I think having manners, with alot of victorian overtones being apart of the scene, to me makes you more of what it is your trying to emulate

[MissLaceyBones]

"bible for newbies"?

Wouldn't it be a good thing to have babybats reading a book that tells them that they don't have to go around looking miserable and gloomy all the time?

What I wouldn't give to have her book when I first starting dressing goth and was moody and angsty. And I would probably would not have wore some of the clothes that I did, like those hideous Tripp pants.

[RoxasCanFly]

I sincerely love this woman. I read her website and just purchased her book. It was very well written and humorous at times. She reminds me very much of sort of a Dear Abby or Miss Manners for the gothic subculture. As a goth myself, I very much agree with ehr standpoint of being polite and respectful even if someone is impolite to you. Being rude and snarly only perpetuates the stereotype that all goths are angry, mean, evil people that should be avoided at all costs.

[Nikora373]

@RoxasCanFly I agree to absolutely everything she says and what you said. I'm a goth too and really appreciate how she expresses herself about us. Its sort of like trying to make piece with that part of society that always rejects us. I think being polite is important as well and I follow that moral decision whenever I can. It is true that you get stared at negatively even after you have been polite or tried to help though, which makes me think that other people just don't want to accept us.

[RoxasCanFly]

@Nikora373 There will always be people out there unwilling to accept others who are different from them, it's a sad fact of life and an ugly trait of humanity. The best we can do is stand strong and do our best to NOT be what they expect us to be, so that maybe someday there will be less of those unaccepting people and more who are willing to walk on the same side of the street as us or shop in the same grocery aisle rather than avoid us. (I have had both of these things happen to me. >_>)

[Nikora373]

@RoxasCanFly they treat us like we're not human...like the other day when I went to my favorite cd store and heard this little boy ask where something was. Since I knew the store inside out I wanted to tell him. That was when I realized that I shouldn't have though, because both he and his big sister stared at me like I was a UFO that had just fallen and crashed right before them...Any other person would have received thanks and a smile.

[RoxasCanFly]

@Nikora373 I have had the same treatment and looks, even had threats to my safety because of the way I look. It's very sad that humanity can't just get along with each other. Being stared at is a very big side effect of our chosen style of life and dress, most of us look like we just escaped from a Tim Burton film or a horror movie so it's only natural that "normal" people will have that instinctive (albeit very rude) reaction to stare as if we are creatures from another world.

[RosesforThorns1]

@RoxasCanFly she IS the lady of the manners

[dreamer2anime]

I like this lady of manners she has opened my eyes to wat goth is

[11multimedia]

Has anyone noticed that intelligent people talk diffrendly as the mainstream. For like some artist that are intelligent, have made their fame with hard work talk diffrendly.. no Im not refering to pop and rnb hiphop or that kind of artist, but artists that follow whats going on in the world and stuff like that. English teacher I had few years ago was from america and you could sense intelligence from her talk.

[CaptScruffywhiskers]

Presumptuous methinks! Opportunistic,perhaps! plugging product,definetly..Sincere or not the danger lays in defining our lifestyle in a book!....sooner or later it'll be the book says this,or that and it'll become some sort of bible for newbies....That is just sad..Only for sheep!

[ElectroT0y]

My favorite book concerning our Goth lifestyle is "Oh My Goth" By Voltaire.  If you can find one it's a lovely tongue in cheek guide to Goth. Also by Voltaire is "Paint It Black" which is a guide to Gothic home decore.

[Rejia1]

Every goth started out as a newbie, even YOU! think about that

[photographerleia]

She is a cute as a button

[TishKitty]

I'm reading her book now, it's very entertaining and also very well written. It's useful to goths and the goth curious. As an elder goth a few years older than Jillian I've also spent years explaining "no, wearing black is not a religious thing I just like it", "I don't worship satan", etc. Looking a little scary does come in handy for keeping pesky people like overly enthusiastic salesclerks and street thugs away though ;-)

[sinnerx923]

she seems to breifly touch on the very brick and mortar that "goth" is made up of ....MUSIC!!!!! she also seems to stereotype a lot....just pointing out. overall tho she is OK

[TheAmorousOdium]

Couldn't agree more with what she's saying here. My and my sister (both of us goths) were taking a walk and this old man who were were passing stopped and asked us, "So, what's the deal with this whole...goth thing? Are you vampires? Is there a religious thing here? Just a fashion statement? Eternal halloween?" We just nicely explained to him what Goth was. We've actually become quite friendly with this man.

[11multimedia]

er, how can u explain what is goth shortly, its so many things that... meh

[ElysionGear]

Goth etiquette in a Small (somewhat Isolated) Town: Be very very nice and don't scare anyone, or the townsfolk will come after you with pitchforks and torches. ( I am just kidding on that last part.)

[karinagothiclolita]

+ i like this video +

[sosweet425]

where can i buy Victorian Goth clothes in Seattle?

[firetaiger]

thrift stores!!! yay!!

[MissLaceyBones]

ONLINE!

[RedEmeraldMoon]

if all else fails, make your own!