"Why cant you ask the saints and Mary to pray for you?" Becasue God never said you could. He said to pra y to him through Jesus. Period. I can tell this guy that made this video is going to play victim and falsey accuse people of saying stuff they di not say. Try me. Might as well block me. its been my pleasure exploiting your lies. bye.
@Truth77Absolute You claim that we can only pray to God through Jesus. Does this mean we can't ask friends to pray for us (aka going through a friend)? If we can do this, how does it differ from asking for the saints to pray for us?
Forget it, These ppl do not get what is going on, They confuse worship with petition.
You can bang your head all day with them it dose not matter, They will say & believe what they wish about us, Truth or lie they stick to it no matter what, They are stiff necked narrow minded & closed to facts.
@cburton103 I'm afraid you're probably correct about most youtubers...
But you know ? We still need to keep on telling the truth, Some are out there searching for the truth & if the lord put us here to do so then he has some out in the world searching for it.
You cannot replace Jesus with nothing or no one else. You pray to God through Jesus. Period. Praying to anything else is idolatry. Its witchcraft. You are praying to demons. Period. Make sure when I bring FACTUAL EVIDENCE FROM THE BIBLE you dont play the LIBERALS GAME of changing the subject, going qround in circles, avoiding the facts, filibustering, speaking many words to drown out the conversation, falsely accusing people, playing the victim.. etc etc.
Thats all from Galations 1 in the bible. They are not my words but Gods. I also posted a scripture that speaks about what God thinks about people contacting the dead.In Dueteronomy. If you want to avoid the punishment you recieve for following these demonic prctices you have to turn away from the world an its traditions and turn to JESUS. I am not askign you to come to my church or any, but GO TO JESUS OF THE BIBLE.
No Other Gospel 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again
Not a single thing this guy said amounted to factual truth. I researched the scripture he gave from James and revelations. It does not say antyhing about living people on earth to pray to "saints" and "mary". Everyone research it for yourself before you get excited about what this man is saying. When you see how foolish he is you will simply leave this site. The key is not to get excited... He is a lost soul.
First, You need to know wat is ur definition of Worship! As Catholics, we are just venerating those saints. Because they were already with God and they can talk with him. so it can be easy for us to pray, because those saints can be our bridge to God. They become our role model here on earth, that's why we are venerating them, try to study more about Catholicism, don't judge us because of our tradition, judge us on our Strong FAITH with GOD! :D
@danilusable Most importantly the catholic bible says that faith alone does not save and it does not assure salvation (blasphemy). We can all be SURE of salvation when we are born again. John 3:3-7, also 2 Corinthians 5:17. I was catholic. Traditions won't cut it.
@danilusable , I have already discerned what this man on the video is saying. He is false in his statements. Jesus said that you can only get to the Father through him. He is the only intercessor to the Father. Praying to dead people is a ritual performed by Satanists and witches. Research it. It is in the bible. I only state facts that are in the bible. You cannot find anyhere in the bible that states we should pray to dead people. You wont.
You are guided by the Roman institution and is founded on the traditions, but the born-again are led by the Holy Spirit of God for the foundation of the Bible alone.
You need: 1) The Spirit of God; 2) Bible; 3) born-again
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth
@Antisatan7771 "you shall not create idols" please explain what this has to do with asking members of the Church in heaven to pray for us in accordance with Rev 8 and James 5. If you have an issue with statues watch my video entitled "are statues idolatry?". You will see that the protestant position on this only makes sense if the text is grossly taken out of context and twisted.
@carthage397 , Where in the bible does it say to make a request through anyone but Jesus. The passage you gave does not say anything about praying to people that are dead. We can ask living people to pray for us but it is not necessary. Jesus is the only intecessor. Praying to dead people is practiced by the occult and witches. I can find a passage in the bible that explains this.....
@carthage397 , Those passages do not say anything about people on earth consulting dead people in Heaven or hell. i read it aready. Stop perverting Gods word. You are distorting the word of God. I can post it on here if you want so everyone can see it.
Why would anyone pray to a dead person? Christ is the only One alive, omnipresent and capable of hearing your prayers. He alone deserves your attention.
@johnthreesixteen316 why do you comment on my page? you come here and make really really ignorant comments. you have no idea about the communion of saints, something that has been taught from the earliest times in the Church.
if you want to dialogue respectfully and logically im game, if your gonna continue to be offensive and ignorant, you will be blocked
@carthage397 My friend. I see nothing disrespectful in his reply. Pretty much all catholic dogmas, doctrines and practices are indeed unbiblical and were introduced into the "church" at different times in history by different people.
@kiwichristian2009 ive spoken to you before, you weren't able to answer any of my arguments, you just ignored them on the topic of statues. You are unwilling to listen to reason or historical fact. You worship your man-made protestant traditions.
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
@carthage397 If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! 10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.
@Truth77Absolute listen man.....im in work. you cant keep bombarding me with the same comments over and over again. Ill respond to you, but if you keep sending me comments (of a very arrogant, prideful and ignorant nature) every 2 minutes i will have to block you.
@carthage397 , No Other Gospel 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say
@carthage397 , The passage you gave from Revelations does not say anything about people on earth praying to saint in Heaven. Nice try. You are not that good at twisting biblical scirpture to make it what you want it to mean. I will pray to the Father through Jesus that he sends the Holy Spirit to you, the spirit of truth and understanding so it can rid you of pride. Your intellect is your pride. You need Gods intellect.
@carthage397 I want to dialogue with you. I am not here for argument. I know that every word in the Bible is true. I can discern very well. It comes from the Holy Spirit. I have sent you comments already. Like I said before the passage on James and revelation does not explain your case. You actually asked a question when you were explaining it. " Why cant we pray to the saints?" you asled. I dont aks question I "tell" you what the bible says.
@johnthreesixteen316 Why did Christ, our example to follow, converse with a dead Moses? Why was Peter not rebuked for wanting to set up a tabernacle for this dead holy man?
@TheCatholicWolf , Jesus is Lord. He is God in the flesh. Of course he can consult with the dead. He had authority over them. The dead will be in his hands for judgement. Like you and I will be in his hands when we die.
@johnthreesixteen316 Occult Practices 9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD;
@AtomicMonster454 , 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
@AtomicMonster454 , The bible never states for human beings to petition anyone but JESUS. Becasue JESUS is the only gateway to the FATHER. Send me ONE example from the BIBLE.
"Why cant you ask the saints and Mary to pray for you?" Becasue God never said you could. He said to pra y to him through Jesus. Period. I can tell this guy that made this video is going to play victim and falsey accuse people of saying stuff they di not say. Try me. Might as well block me. its been my pleasure exploiting your lies. bye.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@Truth77Absolute You claim that we can only pray to God through Jesus. Does this mean we can't ask friends to pray for us (aka going through a friend)? If we can do this, how does it differ from asking for the saints to pray for us?
cburton103 2 months ago
@cburton103
Forget it, These ppl do not get what is going on, They confuse worship with petition.
You can bang your head all day with them it dose not matter, They will say & believe what they wish about us, Truth or lie they stick to it no matter what, They are stiff necked narrow minded & closed to facts.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1 I'm afraid you're probably correct about most youtubers...
cburton103 2 months ago
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@cburton103 I'm afraid you're probably correct about most youtubers...
But you know ? We still need to keep on telling the truth, Some are out there searching for the truth & if the lord put us here to do so then he has some out in the world searching for it.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
You cannot replace Jesus with nothing or no one else. You pray to God through Jesus. Period. Praying to anything else is idolatry. Its witchcraft. You are praying to demons. Period. Make sure when I bring FACTUAL EVIDENCE FROM THE BIBLE you dont play the LIBERALS GAME of changing the subject, going qround in circles, avoiding the facts, filibustering, speaking many words to drown out the conversation, falsely accusing people, playing the victim.. etc etc.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
Thats all from Galations 1 in the bible. They are not my words but Gods. I also posted a scripture that speaks about what God thinks about people contacting the dead.In Dueteronomy. If you want to avoid the punishment you recieve for following these demonic prctices you have to turn away from the world an its traditions and turn to JESUS. I am not askign you to come to my church or any, but GO TO JESUS OF THE BIBLE.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
No Other Gospel 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
Not a single thing this guy said amounted to factual truth. I researched the scripture he gave from James and revelations. It does not say antyhing about living people on earth to pray to "saints" and "mary". Everyone research it for yourself before you get excited about what this man is saying. When you see how foolish he is you will simply leave this site. The key is not to get excited... He is a lost soul.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
First, You need to know wat is ur definition of Worship! As Catholics, we are just venerating those saints. Because they were already with God and they can talk with him. so it can be easy for us to pray, because those saints can be our bridge to God. They become our role model here on earth, that's why we are venerating them, try to study more about Catholicism, don't judge us because of our tradition, judge us on our Strong FAITH with GOD! :D
danilusable 6 months ago
They can't talk to God. We will all go to heaven together when Jesus cames back. The dead will rise and the alive will join him as well.
The only bridge that was needed between us and God is Jesus Christ.
Lets leave tradition aside. It has nothing to do with what is true and what is not.
heartnmind1 2 months ago
@danilusable Most importantly the catholic bible says that faith alone does not save and it does not assure salvation (blasphemy). We can all be SURE of salvation when we are born again. John 3:3-7, also 2 Corinthians 5:17. I was catholic. Traditions won't cut it.
heartnmind1 2 months ago
@danilusable , I have already discerned what this man on the video is saying. He is false in his statements. Jesus said that you can only get to the Father through him. He is the only intercessor to the Father. Praying to dead people is a ritual performed by Satanists and witches. Research it. It is in the bible. I only state facts that are in the bible. You cannot find anyhere in the bible that states we should pray to dead people. You wont.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
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You are guided by the Roman institution and is founded on the traditions, but the born-again are led by the Holy Spirit of God for the foundation of the Bible alone.
You need: 1) The Spirit of God; 2) Bible; 3) born-again
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth
vinijesusismylife 1 year ago
Exodus 20:4-5
Antisatan7771 1 year ago
@Antisatan7771 "you shall not create idols" please explain what this has to do with asking members of the Church in heaven to pray for us in accordance with Rev 8 and James 5. If you have an issue with statues watch my video entitled "are statues idolatry?". You will see that the protestant position on this only makes sense if the text is grossly taken out of context and twisted.
carthage397 1 year ago
@carthage397 , Where in the bible does it say to make a request through anyone but Jesus. The passage you gave does not say anything about praying to people that are dead. We can ask living people to pray for us but it is not necessary. Jesus is the only intecessor. Praying to dead people is practiced by the occult and witches. I can find a passage in the bible that explains this.....
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@carthage397 , Those passages do not say anything about people on earth consulting dead people in Heaven or hell. i read it aready. Stop perverting Gods word. You are distorting the word of God. I can post it on here if you want so everyone can see it.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
Why would anyone pray to a dead person? Christ is the only One alive, omnipresent and capable of hearing your prayers. He alone deserves your attention.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 why do you comment on my page? you come here and make really really ignorant comments. you have no idea about the communion of saints, something that has been taught from the earliest times in the Church.
if you want to dialogue respectfully and logically im game, if your gonna continue to be offensive and ignorant, you will be blocked
carthage397 1 year ago
@carthage397 My friend. I see nothing disrespectful in his reply. Pretty much all catholic dogmas, doctrines and practices are indeed unbiblical and were introduced into the "church" at different times in history by different people.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 ive spoken to you before, you weren't able to answer any of my arguments, you just ignored them on the topic of statues. You are unwilling to listen to reason or historical fact. You worship your man-made protestant traditions.
carthage397 1 year ago
@carthage397 , I believe every word in the Bible. Denominations and church are not God.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@carthage397 , Galatians 1:8
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@carthage397 If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! 10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@Truth77Absolute listen man.....im in work. you cant keep bombarding me with the same comments over and over again. Ill respond to you, but if you keep sending me comments (of a very arrogant, prideful and ignorant nature) every 2 minutes i will have to block you.
cool it and ill respond when i have a chance.
carthage397 2 months ago
@carthage397 , No Other Gospel 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@carthage397 , The passage you gave from Revelations does not say anything about people on earth praying to saint in Heaven. Nice try. You are not that good at twisting biblical scirpture to make it what you want it to mean. I will pray to the Father through Jesus that he sends the Holy Spirit to you, the spirit of truth and understanding so it can rid you of pride. Your intellect is your pride. You need Gods intellect.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@carthage397 I want to dialogue with you. I am not here for argument. I know that every word in the Bible is true. I can discern very well. It comes from the Holy Spirit. I have sent you comments already. Like I said before the passage on James and revelation does not explain your case. You actually asked a question when you were explaining it. " Why cant we pray to the saints?" you asled. I dont aks question I "tell" you what the bible says.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Why did Christ, our example to follow, converse with a dead Moses? Why was Peter not rebuked for wanting to set up a tabernacle for this dead holy man?
TheCatholicWolf 1 year ago
@TheCatholicWolf , Jesus is Lord. He is God in the flesh. Of course he can consult with the dead. He had authority over them. The dead will be in his hands for judgement. Like you and I will be in his hands when we die.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
Deuteronomy 18
@johnthreesixteen316 Occult Practices 9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD;
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
Prayer = petition / ask
AtomicMonster454 2 years ago
John 14
@AtomicMonster454 , 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
@AtomicMonster454 , The bible never states for human beings to petition anyone but JESUS. Becasue JESUS is the only gateway to the FATHER. Send me ONE example from the BIBLE.
Truth77Absolute 2 months ago
WOW I really didnt know that, that is so cool!!!!!
spongepants93 2 years ago