the other night I saw Cyinc in adelaide Australia & I got to hang out with them for a little while & I got my Human & Focus CDs signed by Reinert & Masvidal :) but the best part is I got to talk to Reinert for about half an hour (but it seemed longer) about drumming & stuff, hes a really cool guy & seriously the best metal drummer ever in my opinion & one thing that blew me away was that when I went up to Paul Masvidal he actually reached out to shake my hand first & I couldnt beleive it haha
interesting to note that because this is recorded from behind the drum kit, its the real tone of the drums, not the EQ'd sound that goes out through the PA system. It's still really clean playing and you can hear the slight pitch difference between the two bass drums. I saw them on this tour from close to the stage, I couldn't even see the drum kit with all the dry ice smoke they were using on stage... this video is the next best thing...
Just some additional info that everybody goes into when talking about triggers:
Many drummers say that a drummer is "cheating" when he uses triggers. Hmmm do I think so? I do, but it doesn't mean a drummer is bad if he uses triggers.
Well no, there is a point of speed that, even if you are playing incredibly cleanly, the drum will sound like shit. drummers who barely hit the kick drum and have triggers sound when they just tap it are cheating.
Some more additional info, be sure that all modern Metal Records are pushed with triggers, in the Studio you can add trigger sounds in the computer without using trigger sensors. Compare a cd from the 80th with modern stuff and you know what i mean.
You instantly knew was it Menza, Benante, Ulrich, Lombardo, Mazurkiewicz etc just to name a few. Apart form their playing style, the sound was distinctive as well.
What can I say. His drumming is really innovative, technical and, to describe it with one word, AMAZING. I think he was the first to combine jazz and death metal. Let me tell ya, playing along with Human... It's never boring thx to Sean
Yeah I agree. He's the most innovative metal drummer of all time IMO. Some of the stuff he does in "Lack of Comprehension" and "Secret Face" are just amazing. I myself prefer his work with Cynic.
Amazing drummer, but so is Gene Hoglan. Chuck had so awesome musicians in his bands, Death/Control Denied. Death basically was Chuck's band, but guys like Sean Reinert who were in Death deserve a big credit also!
Human, ITP, and Symbolic were all star lineups. I agree, I think a lot of the past members haven't gotten enough credit. Paul Masvidals influence is clear as day on Human, as well as Reinerts. I think Hoglan brought one of the heaviest sounds to the plate, without going overly technical. I think Andy Laroque was the most overrated guitarist Chuck had, people seem to think he played on the whole record instead of just playing a couple of the solos.
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3:18 is not that fast? Maybe not compared to modern competitive standards. Either way, there's no need because he's actually PLAYING the bass drums. Most trigger users just tap the skins lightly and get the results they need.
I LOL at you people that think using triggers is cheating. Go learn about how something works before classifying it as cheating. Just so you know, Sean Reinert, the guy in this vid now uses triggers. Made by drumkat.
I never said using triggers is cheating. Cheating would be programming the bassdrums instead of playing them. My problem is I don't understand why so many drummers prefer to have ugly artificial sounds replacing their own performances.
As a result drummers develop techniques to use minimal effort to get a fake sound out of their acoustic, naturally punchy bass drums.
My point: There are hundreds of metal recordings with perfectly audible FAST untriggered double bass. You don't need triggers.
I'm sorry Peatman. I guess your right, and Sean Reinert, and all the other countless pros who use triggers are wrong. My brother has been drumming since 1983, and we play together quite a bit, he never uses triggers at home when we play, only while he's recording, or live. He doesn't change his style any when using the triggers, and "lightly touch the skins" as you think. His style is the same either way. He used to mic his bass drums, but figured out that triggers are more reliable.
Bro alot of people use them for super tech shit cos they cant actually hot the skins hard enough, obviously not the reason some more accomplished drummers use em, but i know alot of guys down here in NZ that use em for that reason
I love them both and it's so hard to compare Reinert's uber technical skills and finesse to Hoglan's brutality, power and stage presence. I think they should make a baby together and he will be the perfect drummer
Sean and gene cant be compared, different fruits from different tress. Each is on their own level. Sean is my fav although I love Gene too. :) Shared a drink with him years ago at a show, good people. Sean has a style all his own.
...and I just wanted him to check out his other work, like Cynic, which is...I can't fint any words to explain how great it is. And some fucking kid came and told me to fuck off and that downloading is illegal and all that shit. Fuck this shit sökjajadjöaksd.
Wow man, you guys over there in america are way too tense about racism. Get a sense of humour and chill the fuck out! jesus... The funniest part is that I lied about everything I wrote to that other dude. Yeah I know... Im an asshole... Ive got the Focus album of cynic right beside me right now and Deaths - Human album too if ur curious. hmm.. But all I wanted to say to that guy in the first place was that he wasny impressed at all with Sean Reinerts drumming in this song....continued...........
Do what I did to Cynic, Download the CD then support them by giving them money (i gave what the CD cost) and everyone is happy. I would never ever listen to the CD if I had it, I only listen through my computer or Mp3-player. It would be totally necessary to make a CD for me, total waste of everything. Better to save the material for making that cd to someone else. bitch.
thanks to people like you bands are struggling around the world. And lucky for me to be an American we have cheaper CD prices. and I will see them after the album comes out. And if you don't care if that is stealing then you don't deserve to see cynic. It is way better to own a CD anyways because you get the full sound quality that a crappy internet streamed mp3 file. bitch.
yo man... i think it is bach brandenburg no 2... but it could be a different brandburg concerto. since they only used a minute excerpt its hard to say and the versions on youtube are weird :) but i'm sure its one of the 6 brandenburg concertos!
The classical piece of the Intro is something by Johann Sebastian Bach. I'm not sure exactly which one, but I think it's from one of the Brandenburg Concertos.
this man + their drums = one whole thing
Gardhul 1 year ago
Great cover! well done
rockinsamuraidude 1 year ago
he is not of this planet
GODCORRUPTED 1 year ago
FUCKING BRUTAL!!!!
23igna 1 year ago
the other night I saw Cyinc in adelaide Australia & I got to hang out with them for a little while & I got my Human & Focus CDs signed by Reinert & Masvidal :) but the best part is I got to talk to Reinert for about half an hour (but it seemed longer) about drumming & stuff, hes a really cool guy & seriously the best metal drummer ever in my opinion & one thing that blew me away was that when I went up to Paul Masvidal he actually reached out to shake my hand first & I couldnt beleive it haha
jameslewis82 2 years ago 10
Thankyou Sean Sitka!
BreathTheDeath 2 years ago 3
riff at 3:51 is fuckin killer and the symbols sound so fuckin good
expired1 2 years ago
I love it when death does those small intros. Like they start playing Land of No Return then they go right into Suicide Machine.
Samoriah 2 years ago 2
Chuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
damn i miss his fucking awesome music
novusordum 2 years ago 4
awesome classical intro!! and awesome song!!!!
DozaSlayer 2 years ago 2
damn thats fking amazing! Death forever
harry666metal 2 years ago 3
Amazing!!! without words
violetrevolut1on 2 years ago
interesting to note that because this is recorded from behind the drum kit, its the real tone of the drums, not the EQ'd sound that goes out through the PA system. It's still really clean playing and you can hear the slight pitch difference between the two bass drums. I saw them on this tour from close to the stage, I couldn't even see the drum kit with all the dry ice smoke they were using on stage... this video is the next best thing...
blobo123 2 years ago 5
some1 plz be kind and explain to me : what are triggers ??
vild3r 2 years ago
I'm more then likely wrong, but I believe they're a type of drum mic.
JonMcAlpin 2 years ago
Triggers are sensors, placed on the drumheads to send an signal to an processor which can generate a drum sound.
Its used to ensure that the drum always have a juicy sound no matter how hard the drums are played.
ValoR23 2 years ago
aha thx alot for the info !
vild3r 2 years ago
Just some additional info that everybody goes into when talking about triggers:
Many drummers say that a drummer is "cheating" when he uses triggers. Hmmm do I think so? I do, but it doesn't mean a drummer is bad if he uses triggers.
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
Well no, there is a point of speed that, even if you are playing incredibly cleanly, the drum will sound like shit. drummers who barely hit the kick drum and have triggers sound when they just tap it are cheating.
spurious 2 years ago
I did not know that. thx
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
Some more additional info, be sure that all modern Metal Records are pushed with triggers, in the Studio you can add trigger sounds in the computer without using trigger sensors. Compare a cd from the 80th with modern stuff and you know what i mean.
ValoR23 2 years ago
Yeah, unfortunately. Every modern record sounds the same. Back in the day, every drummer had his unique sound. Now it's all the same. Sad
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago 2
Absolutely right
ValoR23 2 years ago
You instantly knew was it Menza, Benante, Ulrich, Lombardo, Mazurkiewicz etc just to name a few. Apart form their playing style, the sound was distinctive as well.
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago 2
Was Sean with Sabian back then? I mean, not endorsed but is that what he used? I love his ride on Focus and his playing in general.
AggressiveC 2 years ago
I think he was with Zildjian. I saw a few pics of Death with Sean wearing a shirt with a big K (as Zildjian K) on it.
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
Oh thanks. He would use Ks haha, the damn jazzer!
AggressiveC 2 years ago
:D I'd rather say kickass jazzer
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
Yeah haha. He was really one of the only guys to push those kind of boundaries.
AggressiveC 2 years ago
What can I say. His drumming is really innovative, technical and, to describe it with one word, AMAZING. I think he was the first to combine jazz and death metal. Let me tell ya, playing along with Human... It's never boring thx to Sean
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
Yeah I agree. He's the most innovative metal drummer of all time IMO. Some of the stuff he does in "Lack of Comprehension" and "Secret Face" are just amazing. I myself prefer his work with Cynic.
AggressiveC 2 years ago
I agree. His work with Cynic is astonishing. Great talent he has.
DangerousDrummerDado 2 years ago
haha when my friend and i went to see cynic my friend barged in on him after the show was over haha he was so startled
i got a glimpse on him
he was puring sweat
with all them rolls and fills of course he was
best show ever
seeing cynic is no dissapointment
MorbidMayhem 2 years ago 3
his hair is awesome
Radwalls 2 years ago
You cannot compare him to the present days.......he grew so much.......jeez:-)
MarcBurnsThatBarn 2 years ago
Triggers are used only to get a clearer sound,neither heavier nor faster ,just clearer sound at high speeds
tsiggaki 2 years ago 4
Amazing drummer, but so is Gene Hoglan. Chuck had so awesome musicians in his bands, Death/Control Denied. Death basically was Chuck's band, but guys like Sean Reinert who were in Death deserve a big credit also!
WakeUpDead777 2 years ago 2
Human, ITP, and Symbolic were all star lineups. I agree, I think a lot of the past members haven't gotten enough credit. Paul Masvidals influence is clear as day on Human, as well as Reinerts. I think Hoglan brought one of the heaviest sounds to the plate, without going overly technical. I think Andy Laroque was the most overrated guitarist Chuck had, people seem to think he played on the whole record instead of just playing a couple of the solos.
sic33 2 years ago 2
It sounds impossible, but he got even better than this, nowadays!!
Pleurotus 2 years ago
And this is another chunk of proof that DRUMMERS DON'T NEED TRIGGERS.
Love this sound!!
Peatman 2 years ago
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truth to the fulest extent
demartinod 2 years ago
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lol..?hes not even playing that fast of double bass so theres not even a need...nice try though
jjdrummer108 2 years ago
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3:18 is not that fast? Maybe not compared to modern competitive standards. Either way, there's no need because he's actually PLAYING the bass drums. Most trigger users just tap the skins lightly and get the results they need.
Peatman 2 years ago
I LOL at you people that think using triggers is cheating. Go learn about how something works before classifying it as cheating. Just so you know, Sean Reinert, the guy in this vid now uses triggers. Made by drumkat.
matt420740 2 years ago
I never said using triggers is cheating. Cheating would be programming the bassdrums instead of playing them. My problem is I don't understand why so many drummers prefer to have ugly artificial sounds replacing their own performances.
As a result drummers develop techniques to use minimal effort to get a fake sound out of their acoustic, naturally punchy bass drums.
My point: There are hundreds of metal recordings with perfectly audible FAST untriggered double bass. You don't need triggers.
Peatman 2 years ago
I'm sorry Peatman. I guess your right, and Sean Reinert, and all the other countless pros who use triggers are wrong. My brother has been drumming since 1983, and we play together quite a bit, he never uses triggers at home when we play, only while he's recording, or live. He doesn't change his style any when using the triggers, and "lightly touch the skins" as you think. His style is the same either way. He used to mic his bass drums, but figured out that triggers are more reliable.
matt420740 2 years ago 2
hell yeah
cosmicsea2292 2 years ago
Bro alot of people use them for super tech shit cos they cant actually hot the skins hard enough, obviously not the reason some more accomplished drummers use em, but i know alot of guys down here in NZ that use em for that reason
joshpaki 2 years ago
werd, some people just dont know. Id like to see any1 play this at a concert and have sound half as good without them.
cosmicsea2292 2 years ago
Fucking awesome double bass.
mk1gte 3 years ago
I mean Sean
sk8fever69 3 years ago
I would sell my soul to devil to play like Stene!!!!
sk8fever69 3 years ago
A metal version of Vinnie Colaiuta!
darkconfidant85 3 years ago 3
thats his main influece he said in an interveiw on sickdrummer you can download it
1MorA1 3 years ago
"A request to die with dignity, is that too much too ask?"
Jason310M 3 years ago
flawless =)
darthbarraza 3 years ago 2
reinert rules.
dannehultberg 3 years ago 4
Two geniuses, Bach and Death. RIP Chuck. Concertos Brandebourgeois. Fuck yes.
Miguelboz 3 years ago 18
3.... you forgot reinert
Mrbungleface 3 years ago 8
@Miguelboz This is not Bach nor the Brandenburg concertos, its Handel.
brunthroath6912 1 year ago
@brunthroath6912 If it is Handel what composition? Thank you
Deviliumrei 1 year ago
@Deviliumrei Look it up its supposed to be in the Concerti grossi Op.6, but i didn't hear it.. If by any chance you come across it lemme know;p
brunthroath6912 1 year ago
@Miguelboz
Bach = Genius. Chuck =Godfather of death metal.
xPrisonOfTheMindx 8 months ago
Reinert and this album were tops.
Hoglan is the man as well but I feel it was another direction.
A Win Win
bikermancam 3 years ago 8
I love them both and it's so hard to compare Reinert's uber technical skills and finesse to Hoglan's brutality, power and stage presence. I think they should make a baby together and he will be the perfect drummer
Beefy2k 3 years ago 29
The perfect drummer was already born: RICHARD CHRISTY!
ebrosonslaught 3 years ago 4
That would make for a hell of a drummer. But who would be the catcher and who would be the pitcher????
shadeofgrey07 3 years ago 2
@Beefy2k that babys name is richard christy ;)
babykkkyle 3 months ago
Excellent video! Impressive..
Clausfarre 3 years ago
Sean and gene cant be compared, different fruits from different tress. Each is on their own level. Sean is my fav although I love Gene too. :) Shared a drink with him years ago at a show, good people. Sean has a style all his own.
v12kid 3 years ago 2
it would be awesome if you posted more of this concert in reinert cam
jebusfx22 3 years ago 3
i think we are all waiting for that...
zetoze 3 years ago
yes, MOAR
oddmanero 3 years ago
the best fucking drummer in the planet, really he is ffrom other world.
GODCORRUPTED 3 years ago
Still think Hoglan worked best. Suppose I'm a little biased, he's possibly my favourite drummer of all time...
webbtje 3 years ago
...and I just wanted him to check out his other work, like Cynic, which is...I can't fint any words to explain how great it is. And some fucking kid came and told me to fuck off and that downloading is illegal and all that shit. Fuck this shit sökjajadjöaksd.
Kafe420 3 years ago
Are you knivjerry on the Cynical sphere
fronick 3 years ago
No... why?
Kafe420 3 years ago
I thought you were since youre from sweeden
fronick 3 years ago
It's kind of Ironic, he lives in my area :p
Kafe420 3 years ago
lol
fronick 3 years ago
yeah.. I wanna go back to that funny dicussion we had
Kafe420 3 years ago
Wow man, you guys over there in america are way too tense about racism. Get a sense of humour and chill the fuck out! jesus... The funniest part is that I lied about everything I wrote to that other dude. Yeah I know... Im an asshole... Ive got the Focus album of cynic right beside me right now and Deaths - Human album too if ur curious. hmm.. But all I wanted to say to that guy in the first place was that he wasny impressed at all with Sean Reinerts drumming in this song....continued...........
Kafe420 3 years ago 2
Atleast im not black :)
Kafe420 3 years ago
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other than the roll at 2:21 i saw nothing extraordinary
scrawny3000 3 years ago
Download Cynic album "Focus" and you will see something extraordinary.
Kafe420 3 years ago
why would you ask some one to download Focus when that's stealing money from Cynic. Buy the CD.
fronick 3 years ago
I seriously don't care if that is stealing.
Do what I did to Cynic, Download the CD then support them by giving them money (i gave what the CD cost) and everyone is happy. I would never ever listen to the CD if I had it, I only listen through my computer or Mp3-player. It would be totally necessary to make a CD for me, total waste of everything. Better to save the material for making that cd to someone else. bitch.
Kafe420 3 years ago
And then of course support them by watch their shows which you probably haven't! Sucks to be american, right? ;)
Kafe420 3 years ago
thanks to people like you bands are struggling around the world. And lucky for me to be an American we have cheaper CD prices. and I will see them after the album comes out. And if you don't care if that is stealing then you don't deserve to see cynic. It is way better to own a CD anyways because you get the full sound quality that a crappy internet streamed mp3 file. bitch.
fronick 3 years ago
Sweet... Im gonna go download all the bands albums that you put into your favorites now! So long asshole!! hahahahaha
Kafe420 3 years ago
What about the drum fill @4:00? That's insane!
warmaster2006 3 years ago 2
Thanks so much for posting these videos, I really enjoy watching god on drums, Sean is the man.
tirincho 3 years ago
looks like richard christy from the back...
arabsphere 3 years ago
His playing style looks very uncomfortable and unergonomic, reminds a bit about Vinne Colaiuta.
But when listening it's hard to match :)
KilledbiDeath 3 years ago
just awesome!!!
god.....
santanatas 3 years ago
The fill he does right before the first verse, at like 2:21...
The greatest moment in music history.
jaybreak 3 years ago
Wow...!! THANK YOU.
TOXICTRACE 3 years ago
that was awsome! great footage
xjun2000 3 years ago
Right..... That's it, I'm giving up, time to put my drumsticks in the bin! He is a fucking legend.
mk1gte 3 years ago
the playing fro 3:59 to 4:19 is just ridiculous. More jazz than metal. Soooooooo good. Sean is THE MAN!
zappafile 3 years ago
i dont know why but my brain goes black at 2:37
maybe its a lack of comprehension ;)
underworldofutube 3 years ago
haha good one
FrancoBiggieskin 3 years ago
watch?v=7cnacIKY540 look familiar?
hydralisk125 3 years ago
If anyone can tell me the exact title and composer of the classical piece i will put another one up :P
boovidge 3 years ago
yo man... i think it is bach brandenburg no 2... but it could be a different brandburg concerto. since they only used a minute excerpt its hard to say and the versions on youtube are weird :) but i'm sure its one of the 6 brandenburg concertos!
preciousatonement 3 years ago
put more of these up
naxtea 3 years ago
thats some real man drumming! hard and precise while looking all relaxed.
MrYukawa 3 years ago
REINERT - GOD in human form!
Jendrij 3 years ago 7
fuck yeah! thanks
dime333420 3 years ago
By the way, Holy fucking hell Sean Reinert was awesome!!! I can't wait for the new Cynic record!
Nachtpanzer 3 years ago 3
The classical piece of the Intro is something by Johann Sebastian Bach. I'm not sure exactly which one, but I think it's from one of the Brandenburg Concertos.
Nachtpanzer 3 years ago
Oh my, great! Do you have any videos of Flattening of Emotions? I'd die if I say that.
VacantPlanets 3 years ago
unbeleiveable.
sacredwonder 3 years ago
Amazing! great upload ... thank you ;)
zetoze 3 years ago 2