747 is 800.000 pounds of aircraft they dont handle quite like smaller planes or even the 737 if you do not think you have just right go around and try again
u cant just go and say it was too fast, cause u dont know. if the plane was at max landing weight, it had to come in this fast. stop playing smart u dummies. and trust me, those guys sitting in there know why the went around, u cant sit here and judge it by a video.
@haitiano1982 In your parts of the world , i was 2 weeks in martinique ....next target ,i want to go to rebel venezuela.... , your vids are great, you are the guy on the rh seat? pm me....greetings from athens
@greenarroww now on the serious side, in every recurrent sim training , during go arounds or missed approaches, the primary interest was not to forget the gear hanging and draging, due to the implications on a/c performance as you might understand...thats for all a/c types
Missed approach procedures in big planes are not always as simple as "gear up, flaps up." Many are required to be able to be able to perform the initial segment (climb gradient) in the landing configuration to even be allowed to do the approach. Raising the gear and flaps without thinking can also lead to severe control issues and much less lift. Priority is engine, pitch, airspeed, climb rate. Configuration changes come later.
Looking at this video a few times it looks to me like the pilot never intended to land at all, but to do a "go around"........the engine doesn't sound right for a landing and the flaps aren't extended enough......
if i were the pilot of this flight and make a missed approach, i laughung and go arround! just take it easy, i love the aviation and i dont get stressed if i have to do that! and in a 747! OMG! the queen of the sky! :D
how can you tell he is going too fast or too slow?, it´s up to the angle the video was taken. Actual pilots belive on their instruments and not on what the see or feel.
How can you tell flaps were only 10º??? No pilot would attempt to land a 747 with a 10º flaps setting..... come on, don´t try to look smart or like you have 50000 jet flight hours, just enjoy these beautiful videos!
@chirimanar actully you can tell if it is 10 or 20º flaps couse its quite a big diffrence but yeah this is not 10º this is 20º flaps... but the speed is kinda hard to tell .. it looks like he was going too fast but its probably as you say about the angle
you think a 747 aborting landing is amazing? I saw an Emirates A380 do the same thing at LHR a while back ... I thought he would never get it up again ... but he did
@TheGreatFlyer They retract flaps as soon as they set to climb power. So flaps are full till 0:28 sec and then are moving up. Watch it carefully. Extension line before the runway 16L, there are buildings of Tokyo so they have to make left turning approach on the Tokyo bay to avoid city center. As soon as they finish turning the runway should be in front of them for final approach. you know it's not easy.
Whats funny is that all Japanese airlines are owned by the government & they barley make a profit but the powerful & wealthy government keeps them running.
I love the Youtube dingbats saying things like "too fast." You have absolutely no clue whatsoever what the indicated airspeed was on short final. Further... headwind? tailwind/windshear? keeping speed up for cross wind? ALL these things affect ground speed.
@engthku it depends, but in the recent accident in Poland the pilot tryed landing at least four times. But if you cannot landing at the second time, better wait for less wind or something like that. Aircrafts have fuel enough for it.
lol!!! It's probably due to another traffic still on the runway, it happens quite often!! Stop saying that it's because the plane is too fast! It looks normal....
i think every pilot once in there career has a bad landding or a bad day.. does not have to be 300 people dead just something small.. maybe the 1'st officer told the pilot a joke and the pilot was laughung his ass of and had to make a new landing :)))
@simunpd If this was a trans-pacific flight, consider tired pilots. I know on Japan to Hawaii routes, JAL only uses TWO pilots (captain and 1st officer). All other US carriers would have THREE pilots. JAL uses crews of 19 (17 female - mostly Thai where labor is much cheaper - and 2 pilots). Delta always has 3 pilots on this route. Quantas SYD-HNL has 3, Korean has 3, Philippines-3, New Zealand-3, but why JAL no reliever pilot. Missed approach? pilot fatigue? Go figure.....
@simunpd Dude we relax, but the poor pilots have to deal with a shitload of paperwork for a go-around ... it costs the airline money to keep the 747 in the air every minute, so they will want to know why it happened ... and that's what makes flying unsafe: pilots always have to worry about balancing safety/economics.
@simunpd Have you acutal been on a plane when it has done that? i was flying from england to USA and when we was about to land the plane landed jolted forwards and then you could feel him push up the power and take of again its fucking scary when your acutal on the plane and in the middle of it. in the end it took him 4 trys to land it and when he did he bounced the plane up on the run away before we acutal touched down i think he had something like 400yards before he was on a road
@conner89900 i have not been ina situation such as this one but i flew from denmark to faroe island which is the worst landing area in the world i shit you not:) and i went to the toilet on the way into faroe islands and the pilot has started he's dicent and all of a sudden we came into a air hole or what you call it in english and we fell like 100-200 meters i was about to cry and the steward was knocking on my door asking if i was alright i NO I AM NOT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND:)) i was scared
Next time when flying look at the height of the wing-tips while on the ground and when in the air. The difference is huge. I'd be worried if the wings weren't arcing upwards while airborne.
It wasn't an explanation of why he went around. The reason why the wings where bent wasn't because he was to fast, that's just retarded. The wings bend when you put a load on them. How would going fast possibly make them bend?
Here is why the wings are bent. The aircraft weighs a lot, the wings are creating lift, but aren't creating enough lift. So the pilot increases the pitch, putting more strain on the wings, bending them.
Here are a bunch of 747's landing with bent wings on youtube:
zAfQwDizpRo
ITsqHneYrE8
B4kw2HJVDow
Just check them out.
Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
When I started to Fly a 747 I had often a Go Around because the Pilots can't see where the rwy beginns when tehy are 100-200 m below them so many thing then that they overshoot and try it again.
Belive me I had over 8 Go Arounds in a747-400 ( And I fly the 747 just for 6 months for LH!)
I've jumpseated on the 747's and boy you're not kidding, you're way up there!
I did about 8 go-arounds in a year on the MD-11 because the approach speed was so high that you'd eat up the guy on final in front of you. Approaches could never get in their minds that they had to give you more spacing.
actually when go around incident happen because of it might be an aircraft problem such landing gear problem or else,speed is to high when they`re appoarching to land or might be a busy traffic at the runway due to landing or takeoff.I think in this go around incident it might because of the speed of this B747 is to fast enought that exceed more than 170 knots to land or there's aircraft infront of this B747 which is still in runway making takeoff or roll down(slow down)
its not a missed approach. a missed approach is when the pilots cant see the runway. if they did see the runway than it would of been a final approach.
Gear can be retracted anytime..except on the ground. (Weight on wheels switch overrides the handle, but the geat still has the capibility to be over ridden in emergency or maintainance situations. ) Has nothing to do with a positive rates of climb.
You will get a warning below a low altitudes while flying with geat up & locked.but you can still keep the gear up. (Think emergency landing on rough terrain.)
This is HND 16L. To avoid flying over populated area, this runway do not use ILS and follow VOR/DME approach, by turning left just shortly before the runway. But it looks the plane is turning right on final. Is this due to pirot's error or strong wind?
the gear and flaps are the last thing you want to worry about when performing an aborted landing, the #1 rule of flying is FLY THE PLANE..... he had to make sure he had a positive rate, meaning the VASI and altimeter both had to be in a positive direction before gear can go up safely
Thanks little bud, you seem to know a lot for your age & you are right, power first, fly the plane, but in a go-around the gear & flaps need to come up quickly to 'clean up' the plane. The reduced drag makes climbing easier & quicker.
You mean VSI not VASI. VSI is 'vertical speed indicator'(instrument in the flight deck) . VASI is Visual approach slope indicator(the red & white lights along side the runway). If you're not going to land, the gear comes up as quickly as possible.
Very well said! :) However remember, as well as maintaining positive climb rate etc, there are two pilots handling the controls, so while the captain flies, in the case of a go-around, its the copilot who performs the 'Gear-up'/Flaps etc...
The Captain doesn't always fly the go-around. Whoever flew the approach, does the go around and the pilot not-flying works the gear and flaps. While there are two pilots, only one works the controls at a time (unless something real unusual is going on).
Do you think they may have had other things on their minds at that moment, like getting the plane safely back in the air for the go around? I'm sure the landing gear would come a little ways down the checklist in this situation. If I were on the plane I'd rather they were focused on airspeed, attitude and other traffic before worrying about bringing up the landing gear.
After calling for a go-around and selecting power, the PNF will call "Positive climb" like on a normal climbout, once he or she sees the climb-and-descent needle show a positive climb. After that it is at the PF's discretion.
I will add that in some situations it is procedure to leave the gear down, eg in windshear (or warning of), you don't touch flaps or gear, in case you contact the ground, just fly the steepest climb you can squeeze out of the jet.
I love the smell of youtube armchair aviation experts fighting over what happened in a video.
broumirin 2 months ago
747 is 800.000 pounds of aircraft they dont handle quite like smaller planes or even the 737 if you do not think you have just right go around and try again
4deere 3 months ago
At least they didn't fly it into a battle ship.
pilotnicco 4 months ago
u cant just go and say it was too fast, cause u dont know. if the plane was at max landing weight, it had to come in this fast. stop playing smart u dummies. and trust me, those guys sitting in there know why the went around, u cant sit here and judge it by a video.
haitiano1982 5 months ago 3
@haitiano1982 A very good comment!! :D 100% agree with you :D
ollo1982 4 months ago
@haitiano1982 AMEN!! :D
britishairwayspilot1 3 months ago
DELAY . GOTTA SUCK!
Damnproud213 5 months ago
how can they fail if a Boeing 747 has 4 Pilots on the plane? one of them should know this approach was too fast at least...maybe they're all drunk
haodailam94 5 months ago
@haodailam94 2 Pilots, not 4
AceOfSpades678 4 months ago
wow
spamstoper3 6 months ago
Check out the flap setting, he knew long before he made the turn he was going to go around.
ClipperGoodwill 6 months ago
olololololololol
waieroblox 6 months ago
every approach is a go around, only if you are lucky you can land the aircraft...
kornkixassman 6 months ago
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the plane saw chuck norris near the runway and decided to not land, smart plane
HandbagMafia 7 months ago
thank you for flying with jal.
MAmoviesRS 7 months ago
WOAH! How fast can you go - someones in a hurry!
hello1233280 8 months ago
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again (but not too many times because you'll run out fuel and crash horrifically)
BassGuitarGuy128 8 months ago
coming in hot lol
360wasian 8 months ago
its positive climb and gear up,...they delayed the gear ..fail
flyingxk 9 months ago
@flyingxk rule nr.1 'fly the aircraft !' then take care of the rest. no fail
haitiano1982 8 months ago
@haitiano1982 if you are a pilot you know better...i was just flying 747's....lol, ..so for me is fail
flyingxk 8 months ago
@haitiano1982 YOU MAKE NICE VIDEOS....and i subscribed....good job
flyingxk 8 months ago
@flyingxk tnx man
haitiano1982 8 months ago
@haitiano1982 In your parts of the world , i was 2 weeks in martinique ....next target ,i want to go to rebel venezuela.... , your vids are great, you are the guy on the rh seat? pm me....greetings from athens
flyingxk 8 months ago
@flyingxk positiv climb and gear up? ur comment is fail!
greenarroww 6 months ago
@greenarroww whatever you say since you are a pilot, and i was just flying kites....getalife
flyingxk 6 months ago
@greenarroww now on the serious side, in every recurrent sim training , during go arounds or missed approaches, the primary interest was not to forget the gear hanging and draging, due to the implications on a/c performance as you might understand...thats for all a/c types
flyingxk 6 months ago
Too fast, captain. Try again.
afortaleza 9 months ago
危険を最小限に抑えるなら懸命な判断じゃないかな...操縦出来ない我々がミスアプローチとは言えないと思う。
taka12391967 10 months ago
Too fast, and a wind?, take a look at my flight sim videos all :)
TDPUK 11 months ago
You actually believe that he would be landing at that speed. Way to fast..
TheC17A 11 months ago
one bad day, like all of us experience in office or wherever
yuizakisakura 1 year ago
too much forward airspeed.
transcom47 1 year ago
Good choice...he was way too hot coming in.
Kamisamadesu1 1 year ago
we didn't see the retraction of landing gear,they supposed to do it to decrease drag.
Bekiz100 1 year ago
@Bekiz100 the landing gear went up at the end, you can see
umpalumpa101909 1 year ago
LVO
dickyzero 1 year ago
psych!
BOYthatROX 1 year ago
Missed approach procedures in big planes are not always as simple as "gear up, flaps up." Many are required to be able to be able to perform the initial segment (climb gradient) in the landing configuration to even be allowed to do the approach. Raising the gear and flaps without thinking can also lead to severe control issues and much less lift. Priority is engine, pitch, airspeed, climb rate. Configuration changes come later.
Frederf220 1 year ago 7
Is this the rule in Narita, on each February?
usmail77 1 year ago
He's coming in like a banshee: captain, finish your coffee first
SFConifer 1 year ago
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stupid!
thenator1000 1 year ago
Looking at this video a few times it looks to me like the pilot never intended to land at all, but to do a "go around"........the engine doesn't sound right for a landing and the flaps aren't extended enough......
mariaud999 1 year ago
if i were the pilot of this flight and make a missed approach, i laughung and go arround! just take it easy, i love the aviation and i dont get stressed if i have to do that! and in a 747! OMG! the queen of the sky! :D
manuelocoX22 1 year ago
great approach!!
RheinMainSpottingTV 1 year ago 2
Mmmm... JAL the only airline to go around in CAVU.
archer49d 1 year ago
did the plane ever make it.....--.--
animezlyfe 1 year ago
I think this is an "old" pilot out of the "old/bold" possibilities.
oracle2world 1 year ago
he was too far above the runway......
khunhom 1 year ago
how can you tell he is going too fast or too slow?, it´s up to the angle the video was taken. Actual pilots belive on their instruments and not on what the see or feel.
How can you tell flaps were only 10º??? No pilot would attempt to land a 747 with a 10º flaps setting..... come on, don´t try to look smart or like you have 50000 jet flight hours, just enjoy these beautiful videos!
chirimanar 1 year ago 3
@chirimanar actully you can tell if it is 10 or 20º flaps couse its quite a big diffrence but yeah this is not 10º this is 20º flaps... but the speed is kinda hard to tell .. it looks like he was going too fast but its probably as you say about the angle
CaptainYouKnowWho 1 year ago
@chirimanar well they were deployed as he was about to land..BUT around :33 u can see him pull them back in..to go around...
UFOSPACE1999 2 months ago
you think a 747 aborting landing is amazing? I saw an Emirates A380 do the same thing at LHR a while back ... I thought he would never get it up again ... but he did
lhrlyc 1 year ago
TOO SLOW!!!
planepilot32 1 year ago
He's going way too fast... And only 10 Digrees of flaps!
TheGreatFlyer 1 year ago
@TheGreatFlyer They retract flaps as soon as they set to climb power. So flaps are full till 0:28 sec and then are moving up. Watch it carefully. Extension line before the runway 16L, there are buildings of Tokyo so they have to make left turning approach on the Tokyo bay to avoid city center. As soon as they finish turning the runway should be in front of them for final approach. you know it's not easy.
Transfusions 1 year ago
0:12 its fast because of 10 degree flaps.
spoonethix 1 year ago
Too high and too fast !
N791AN 1 year ago
Whats funny is that all Japanese airlines are owned by the government & they barley make a profit but the powerful & wealthy government keeps them running.
tierren 1 year ago
wow never seen jumbo that fast on final...
Muhammadz86 1 year ago
Man, he was wayyyy too hot on final.
Kamisamadesu1 1 year ago
I love the Youtube dingbats saying things like "too fast." You have absolutely no clue whatsoever what the indicated airspeed was on short final. Further... headwind? tailwind/windshear? keeping speed up for cross wind? ALL these things affect ground speed.
based747 1 year ago 4
@based747 i completely agree with what you just said! what idiots
pilotanthony 1 year ago
WAY TO FAST
but smart pilots
moneytalks1911 1 year ago
did anyone consider that maybe this was an airshow and the pilot was doing a flyby? Japan does have airshows you know...
senosab 1 year ago
@senosab duhh the uploader would know if this were an airshow.
hagios9 1 year ago
what makes you think the pilot messed up? all you youtube aviation experts should just keep quiet.
you ever think maybe there was an incursion? that happens so ofter you'd be suprised. This approach appears to be completly stabalized.
beergut111 1 year ago
how many times the aircraft/pilot can "go around" before the aircraft out of fuel??anyone?
engthku 1 year ago
@engthku it depends, but in the recent accident in Poland the pilot tryed landing at least four times. But if you cannot landing at the second time, better wait for less wind or something like that. Aircrafts have fuel enough for it.
calero90 1 year ago
@engthku Enough to try again for an hour at least.
Frederf220 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT THAT PLANE CAME IN TOO FAST!
ROBLOXROX007 1 year ago
test
stephane130281 1 year ago
lol!!! It's probably due to another traffic still on the runway, it happens quite often!! Stop saying that it's because the plane is too fast! It looks normal....
stephane130281 1 year ago
It seems that he/she was coming in really fast. Better safe than sorry!
MacandPc703 1 year ago
the gear must go up faster !
krikke2109 1 year ago
i think every pilot once in there career has a bad landding or a bad day.. does not have to be 300 people dead just something small.. maybe the 1'st officer told the pilot a joke and the pilot was laughung his ass of and had to make a new landing :)))
come one relax u live once enjoy life!!!
simunpd 1 year ago 76
@simunpd u have any medication?
TheHalofreak92 1 year ago
@simunpd If this was a trans-pacific flight, consider tired pilots. I know on Japan to Hawaii routes, JAL only uses TWO pilots (captain and 1st officer). All other US carriers would have THREE pilots. JAL uses crews of 19 (17 female - mostly Thai where labor is much cheaper - and 2 pilots). Delta always has 3 pilots on this route. Quantas SYD-HNL has 3, Korean has 3, Philippines-3, New Zealand-3, but why JAL no reliever pilot. Missed approach? pilot fatigue? Go figure.....
steelersfanhawaii 1 year ago
@steelersfanhawaii the pilot is also expepected to commit harakiri after such a shame.....
robot015 1 year ago
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TaroFan1231 1 year ago
@simunpd i think every pilot has at least 100 bad landings throughout their career! Learning curb. ;P
mithat87 1 year ago
@simunpd Dude we relax, but the poor pilots have to deal with a shitload of paperwork for a go-around ... it costs the airline money to keep the 747 in the air every minute, so they will want to know why it happened ... and that's what makes flying unsafe: pilots always have to worry about balancing safety/economics.
Byron10301 8 months ago
@simunpd why he hasnt take ils on? oO
Stipi2007 8 months ago
@simunpd Don't they have the "sterile cockpit" rule in Japan?
shelby10011 5 months ago
@simunpd Have you acutal been on a plane when it has done that? i was flying from england to USA and when we was about to land the plane landed jolted forwards and then you could feel him push up the power and take of again its fucking scary when your acutal on the plane and in the middle of it. in the end it took him 4 trys to land it and when he did he bounced the plane up on the run away before we acutal touched down i think he had something like 400yards before he was on a road
conner89900 3 months ago
@conner89900 i have not been ina situation such as this one but i flew from denmark to faroe island which is the worst landing area in the world i shit you not:) and i went to the toilet on the way into faroe islands and the pilot has started he's dicent and all of a sudden we came into a air hole or what you call it in english and we fell like 100-200 meters i was about to cry and the steward was knocking on my door asking if i was alright i NO I AM NOT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND:)) i was scared
simonpd36 3 months ago
a....a.... does this cause by mis-calculation??? or pilot error??
yurimarc 2 years ago
too fast...
thebigthree34520 2 years ago
Gear Up! Gear Up! Gear Up! Geeeeeear Uuuuuuuup!
helcio1960 2 years ago 3
@helcio1960 why?
pilotanthony 1 year ago
Much too fast approach, among other problems. At least the pilot(s) had the sense to call it off early enough...
chendrik 2 years ago 37
cmon - as if a trained pilot couldnt control his airspeed and would come in 'too fast" - must have been some other reason.
mallamoozoo 2 years ago
@chendrik after missed approach, how come it took so long to pull the gear back up?
steelersfanhawaii 1 year ago
@chendrik
yeah. at least he's qualified for his fucking job, is what you're saying
gloomyoutlook 6 months ago
@gloomyoutlook
More then can be said about others out there...
chendrik 6 months ago
wouldn'd like 2 be that pilot's passenger :o
YozFace11 2 years ago
wow rely nice man!
747johan 2 years ago
i think,,,his speed was too much!!
yahya977 2 years ago
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Lota of Mistakes no doubt. Why the hell was that gear down????????????
cessnawings67 2 years ago
That was a really awful landing procedure.
ARVIAON 2 years ago
Next time when flying look at the height of the wing-tips while on the ground and when in the air. The difference is huge. I'd be worried if the wings weren't arcing upwards while airborne.
kyterek 2 years ago
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Who was the friggin pilot?!
thats what i would expect from a 4 year old in a simulator...
1037pm 2 years ago
Gear Up man!!!
ropilot 2 years ago 2
Too high and to fast
ryanair737400 2 years ago
Maybe its a show or something...I mean he was coming in quite fast lol
CrazyDoug17 2 years ago
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KartKing4ever 2 years ago
You can obviously tell you're an idiot, because you're an idiot.
danetrain0101 2 years ago 3
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KartKing4ever 2 years ago
It wasn't an explanation of why he went around. The reason why the wings where bent wasn't because he was to fast, that's just retarded. The wings bend when you put a load on them. How would going fast possibly make them bend?
danetrain0101 2 years ago 5
how would weight make them arch up and its because he is descending to fast and all of the pressure on the flaps are pushing them up
KartKing4ever 2 years ago
Here is why the wings are bent. The aircraft weighs a lot, the wings are creating lift, but aren't creating enough lift. So the pilot increases the pitch, putting more strain on the wings, bending them.
Here are a bunch of 747's landing with bent wings on youtube:
zAfQwDizpRo
ITsqHneYrE8
B4kw2HJVDow
Just check them out.
Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
danetrain0101 2 years ago
Oh, and its wings bend up when the tanks are empty too.
danetrain0101 2 years ago
ok sure...all i was trying to say was he was coming in to fast geez
KartKing4ever 2 years ago
hahahaha.
AA757223 2 years ago
Looked more like an air show fly by!
vespasian111 2 years ago
he was to fast
NaschinTV 2 years ago
way too fast jeese he'd never stop at that speed
rachaelmatt 2 years ago
these youtube experts with their expert opinions!
VEE1r0tate 2 years ago
The captain get that he is not able land then he discard landing
veganash 2 years ago
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これは面白いんですよ。ギアアップ！フラップアップ！愚かなパイロット
FsFreako 2 years ago
thx
I can now land the 747 but believe me it's not so easy!
747LufthansaPilot 2 years ago
When I started to Fly a 747 I had often a Go Around because the Pilots can't see where the rwy beginns when tehy are 100-200 m below them so many thing then that they overshoot and try it again.
Belive me I had over 8 Go Arounds in a747-400 ( And I fly the 747 just for 6 months for LH!)
747LufthansaPilot 2 years ago
I've jumpseated on the 747's and boy you're not kidding, you're way up there!
I did about 8 go-arounds in a year on the MD-11 because the approach speed was so high that you'd eat up the guy on final in front of you. Approaches could never get in their minds that they had to give you more spacing.
MrExspert 2 years ago
コンピューターが判断したのでしょうか？
．．．管制官の判断でしょうね。
sakaesun1962 2 years ago
actually when go around incident happen because of it might be an aircraft problem such landing gear problem or else,speed is to high when they`re appoarching to land or might be a busy traffic at the runway due to landing or takeoff.I think in this go around incident it might because of the speed of this B747 is to fast enought that exceed more than 170 knots to land or there's aircraft infront of this B747 which is still in runway making takeoff or roll down(slow down)
erman777 2 years ago
its not a missed approach. a missed approach is when the pilots cant see the runway. if they did see the runway than it would of been a final approach.
CHuynh1000 2 years ago
uhhhh....you're 100% wrong
OrangeSFO 2 years ago 2
like you would know anything
CHuynh1000 2 years ago
this time is because is to fast and missed approach is the same thing as go around
HELLOCHEWY 2 years ago
you don't need to be out of visual contact with the runway to fly a missed approach.
OrangeSFO 2 years ago
何でゴーアラウンドしたんだろ・・・？
別に風がキツいとかいうわけでもなさそうだけど・・・
puku4 2 years ago
why go around?
TDJP123 2 years ago
they were to high. if they didn't go around than they would of outran the runway.
CHuynh1000 2 years ago
Gear can be retracted anytime..except on the ground. (Weight on wheels switch overrides the handle, but the geat still has the capibility to be over ridden in emergency or maintainance situations. ) Has nothing to do with a positive rates of climb.
You will get a warning below a low altitudes while flying with geat up & locked.but you can still keep the gear up. (Think emergency landing on rough terrain.)
mbandarra3 2 years ago
whooaa the pilot was coming in wayy too fast!! and high!
futurepilot2394 2 years ago
This is HND 16L. To avoid flying over populated area, this runway do not use ILS and follow VOR/DME approach, by turning left just shortly before the runway. But it looks the plane is turning right on final. Is this due to pirot's error or strong wind?
TheTokyoAkira 2 years ago
You can put the landing gear up anytime you like!
flyboymd82 2 years ago
You can retract the landing gear only when you have a positive rate of climb also there's speed limits to operate the landing gear.
cahuide007 2 years ago
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If it's domestic B747D, the landing gear may be inoperational. The landing gear is deactivated on those to save maintenance cost
k0nn0r 2 years ago
the gear and flaps are the last thing you want to worry about when performing an aborted landing, the #1 rule of flying is FLY THE PLANE..... he had to make sure he had a positive rate, meaning the VASI and altimeter both had to be in a positive direction before gear can go up safely
bajesus666 2 years ago
Thanks little bud, you seem to know a lot for your age & you are right, power first, fly the plane, but in a go-around the gear & flaps need to come up quickly to 'clean up' the plane. The reduced drag makes climbing easier & quicker.
You mean VSI not VASI. VSI is 'vertical speed indicator'(instrument in the flight deck) . VASI is Visual approach slope indicator(the red & white lights along side the runway). If you're not going to land, the gear comes up as quickly as possible.
flyboymd82 2 years ago
hahaha idk why i said VASI.....although, i knew to say Vertical speed indicator
bajesus666 2 years ago
Very well said! :) However remember, as well as maintaining positive climb rate etc, there are two pilots handling the controls, so while the captain flies, in the case of a go-around, its the copilot who performs the 'Gear-up'/Flaps etc...
jlebesis 2 years ago
The Captain doesn't always fly the go-around. Whoever flew the approach, does the go around and the pilot not-flying works the gear and flaps. While there are two pilots, only one works the controls at a time (unless something real unusual is going on).
MrExspert 2 years ago
ugh. i hate go-arounds in FSX. dumb ATC cant keep trak of the planes on the runway. T_T
THRICEfan94 2 years ago 4
Try IVAO ;)
AminiAaron 2 years ago 2
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Shitty JAL pilots can not even keep a stabilized approach in to Heneda on a clear day....poor performance. Hard Landings and crappy airman ship.
1966oslo 2 years ago
M I N I M U M S !!!!
sadamski72 2 years ago 4
air show
Macinabit 2 years ago
The pilot was too busy taking photos.
Exagerative 2 years ago 6
hahahahhaha finaly some good thinking here haahha
jnbedros 2 years ago
I thought it was too fast too land.
hendryrusli 2 years ago 6
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Wow. Can I get that 1:05 of my life back please?
devilkin9001 2 years ago
by stopping jerking off all day, you'll recover hours of your life...
This is in the title : "go around (missed approach) JAL 747-400", if you don't want to watch, then get the fuck out of here.
clarinetman1664 2 years ago 7
wtf were you expecting? you clicked on a video that said "go around" and you got a go around
krispykreme82603 2 years ago 2
The video is exactly what is described. The aircraft missed it's landing and therefore needed to go around. What did you expect??
vissi87 2 years ago
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So you want your 1:05 back..and how long did it take to type that? Do you want that time back too?
LtdBudgetProductions 2 years ago
I sense a lot of pissed off passengers on board that aircraft.
m4ace 2 years ago
very good
pete5668 2 years ago
hes coming in way too fast; thats why he aborted
FongTinez 2 years ago
should the pilot retract the flaps when doin a missed approach ?
virgosiao 2 years ago
Only when speed has been regained.
grahamc747 2 years ago 3
why didnt he pull up his landing gear after confirming a go around???
supernaturalguy2009 2 years ago
his landing gear IS being retracted at the end of the video!!
macthewesty 2 years ago 2
oh at that last second.... i see it now... thanks...
supernaturalguy2009 2 years ago
very good choice by the pilot,
plus you got a very good youtube video out of it:)
ansettaddict123 2 years ago 2
wow he made a circle approach ! Is there any ILS in Haneda airport ?
Nice video 5*
fernousdu972 2 years ago
split second decision the pilot made !!!
sealalula 2 years ago 5
indeed
ansettaddict123 2 years ago
yeah :)
sealalula 2 years ago
i am a veteran of msfs, and i hate go-arounds!
goccioloni 2 years ago
Like I said. she had her tulips wrapped to hard on the stick. He's coming in her mouth too high, and too fast...missed approached.
Sincerely,
experienced piloot...lol
verydange 2 years ago 2
Excellent observation...The stewardess was hard on the stick...had to pull back with full throttle.
verydange 2 years ago
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Feel free to raise the gear at any time...n00b.
AdamJLemon 2 years ago
looks too fast coming in anyway
Demolition112 2 years ago
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it looks like a fly by at low altitude in an airshow! good video
GoLfErgio92 2 years ago
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Took them a long time to bring the gear up!
flyboyz83 2 years ago
Do you think they may have had other things on their minds at that moment, like getting the plane safely back in the air for the go around? I'm sure the landing gear would come a little ways down the checklist in this situation. If I were on the plane I'd rather they were focused on airspeed, attitude and other traffic before worrying about bringing up the landing gear.
dgcasey0325 2 years ago
exactly!
Tommy45679 2 years ago
After calling for a go-around and selecting power, the PNF will call "Positive climb" like on a normal climbout, once he or she sees the climb-and-descent needle show a positive climb. After that it is at the PF's discretion.
I will add that in some situations it is procedure to leave the gear down, eg in windshear (or warning of), you don't touch flaps or gear, in case you contact the ground, just fly the steepest climb you can squeeze out of the jet.
cedarjet707 2 years ago