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Very good testimony Father. I enjoyed listening to you. I am a Roman Catholic who has recently become a catechumen in the Eastern Orthodox faith. Thank you for your story.
@CarlosMacMartin I agree with peace towards all, but I find that if we try to stand with all, we end up standing with none. That's why I believe in treating everyone with love (I fail at this sometimes) but not affirming all beliefs as equal or worthy of respect. I don't respect the beliefs of Jim Jones, White Supremacists, etc. I don't think most people do, either. I don't think there is anything wrong with being honest about this.
@gocraleigh True.Any beliefs that advocate hatred or violence towards other humans,
animals,or creation are meaningless and should be ignored.Cults or people who use mind control also should be avoided as well.I would say there are rules that should be followed regardless of faith.I say we should stand with those who have
respect and love for all creation.There's good people in all religions as there is also bad.I choose to socialize with good people regardless of their faith.
I agree with blocking people when they curse or show great disrespect, but not when stating their difference of opinion on doctrine.Everyone has the right to voice their opinions.
@CarlosMacMartin The Muslim fellow did blaspheme and showed great respect, and also refused to engage me on the points I raised, so I grew tired of him; the Catholic fellow seemed rather immature and incapable of a serious discussion, just throwing quotes around, and was taking away from the discussion IMO. I didn't ban them for their beliefs though, but for their approach.
Agreed the Muslim has some issues that need to be worked out.I would suggest he go up on a mountain and really think about the matter.Any religion that advocates harming other humans or creation is the wrong way to go.Nothing can be gained from hatred.A person has to be truly at peace before being at peace with others.I can proclaim that I am at peace.God has blessed me with a faithful
wife,wonderful children,and a good life.I thank God every waking day for what I have received.
@CarlosMacMartin Agreed. That's really my problem with modern Christianity (Paulianity).Jesus himself always eliminated the middleman, yet somehow most christians forget that.."Oh father, why have you foresaken me?" < Doesn't sound like something God would say to himself. I don't believe God would question himself, nor pray to himself. Jesus did both those things. I believe in his divinity but not that he was God. He bowed down before God like Abraham and taught other people to do the same.
@MiloBoz A great man indeed but divine I'm not convinced.Also I don't believe that he ever stated "the only way to God is thru me". I've has discussions with Jesuits,Baptists,
Orthodox,various forms of Protestants,and some other wanna be groups better called
"cults",also Muslims,Jews,Hindus,& Buddhists.The majority think that they have found
"The Way" or have something exclusive to everyone else & it's amazing how brainwashed
people are into following those Fundamentalist ideas.
@gocraleigh I never said universal truth.I said absolute truth.Please do not put words in my mouth or misconstrue what I've stated.I think you know exactly what I mean
If I want to talk to God,I talk to him.If I do something wrong or make a mistake I ask for forgiveness.I don't need to ask a stranger what I need to do to make things right with God.
I've addressed you with respect,so before you block let me just state that it is my own belief that people need to cultivate a relationship with God on their own,all by themselves.
@CarlosMacMartin I am not going to block you because as you said, you are respectful. I blocked the other two fellows for being rude, confrontational, blasphemous, and for dominating the comments section on my video without actually addressing the video itself. To answer your point, I believe that we have to have both a personal and a corporate relationship with God. Union with God also presupposes union with fellow man. One body, one family.
@gocraleigh I understand.I just believe that God gave me a mind to use.To question any & all forms of faith,doctrine,and religions.Not to just take any man's word for absolute truth.
Absolute Truth meaning only One Way...that is exclusive to one group or religion.How
are people supposed to find the truth when so many groups & denominations claim to
have the truth or the only way to salvation? Honestly,it's insanity! I'm not just talking about Christians.
@CarlosMacMartin It's not just about getting forgiveness; it is about being restored to the community, which is why Jesus Christ instituted confession to clergy in the New Testament, as representatives of the Body. We also need guides who have already walked the walk and have learned to teach us; you can only get so far by being self-taught. Those who strike out on their own usually end up in delusion. It's like taking a drive to a new place without a GPS.
@gocraleigh I understand your point.I just think it's not as complicated as most would think.That's my humble opinion based on my nearly 40 years on this earth.
@CarlosMacMartin It was not my intention to put words in your mouth. I was not aware of a distinction between "absolute truth" and "universal truth." That's why I am asking. I am not sure what you mean by a middleman, no, so please don't assume that I am trying to play games. I am asking so I understand what you mean before responding.
There is no doubt that true Christianity came from God. But here is the problem I see with the way most Christians think TODAY. I would love to know what you think about: 1. The notion that all it takes for your sins to be erased is to profess belief in Jesus & that your actions are less important then aligning yourself with the church and 2. The fact that the priest has power to intercede, and like in the Catholic church, forgive you of your sins for you, in the name of God.
@MiloBoz 3. The fact that no non-Christian can make it into heaven. The idea that the Monotheist who did good, never fornicated and prayed all his life but never aligned with the church is a sinner who has no chance of walking through the heavenly gates. And likewise that Christians who do bad things and go to confession once a year are going to be "saved". IMO, this all defies logic and is counter-productive to Christianity. Which is why I think Orthodox is the purest form of Christianity.
Different indeed, considering who was at Nicea and Chalcedon, as opposed to who was at the Vatican Council. The Vatican Council isn't an Ecumenical Council, and you know that. Besides, "first among equals" and Papal Infalliblity are separate concepts. Vatican I didn't define your quote from the council, unless by serious heretical extrapolation. Sure Peter spoke by Leo. But that has nothing to do with Pious IX. Anyway, I love Catholicism, am deeply glad I converted to Orthodoxy.
@TheThreerobbers OF course the Vatican Council was Ecumenical, the term "first among equals" was NEVER a title for The Bishop of Rome. So stop with that nonsense. Pope Leo's Tome was Dogmatic. “You know that the Synodal laws have it that if any doubt arise in matters pertaining to the state of the church, we have recourse to the Bishop of the Roman Church as to our head.” St.Avitus (ca. 495 A.D.)
@PapalSoldier I'm tired of you trolling my video to post your papist heresies. You've had quite free reign here, but the party is over now. I'm blocking you.
Father Anastasie God bless you. It is really a miracle taking place in the US i.e. the rate of conversions to the Orthodox Faith. Btw have you ever heard the speech of Father Seraphim Bell at Christmas 1996 about why did he become an orthodox?. It is very touching and illustrates many issues.
Once s.o. gets to understand the critical issue of how Catholicism and Protestantism deviated, then almost everything becomes apparent and clear.
In Christianity, you have 38 000 sects, and each 1 damns the other 37 999 to hell. 450 versions of the Bible in English alone since 7th century
If it takes 1 year to study each of the 38 000 doctrines of the 38 000 sects of Christianity, and 1 year for each of the 450 versions of the Bible in English alone
Then you have to live 38 450 years to KNOW and AFFIRM which Christian sect is true and which is Bible is factual.
But on the 38 451st, you will happily accept Islam.
@JesusChristMuslim You intolerant, fanatical muslim piece of shit, stop trolling christian videos! If you hope your idiotic "facts" will convert anyone into islam, you are retarded. No one cares! Every christian on this world hates islam because of fanatics such as you! Please stop playing your little game "prophet Mohammed online" and please go stuck up explosives in your pants, and blow yourself up to your muslim heaven. You fanatics are the best at doing that
@JesusChristMuslim You keep repeating the same lies, such that there are 38,000 sects of Christianity, and that they all condemn each other to hell, etc. For that reason, I am going to block you from further commenting, because you are not discussing, but rather just repeating yourself over and over again. That is really boring and annoying.
@BrVincentGa “You cannot deny that you know that in the city of Rome the Chair was first conferred on Peter, in which the prince of all the Apostles, Peter, sat, . . . in which Chair unity should be preserved by all, so that he should now be a schismatic and a sinner who should set up another Chair against that unique one.” St. Optatus of Milevis (ca. 370 A.D.)
@PravoZborisMudraSovo If the "orthodox" reject a belief from the early Church, then yes they are anti-Catholic, most however are ignorant along with the protestants of Church history.
"To be deep in history is to cease being a protestant." - John Henry Newman
Why after FIFTY years of your lifetime would YOU jump from the Christians-killing Roman church to yet another offshoot of the same corrupt tree of Christianity???
I advise you to read the Quran because if 50 long and arduous years of having ZERO spiritual enlightment from Christianity, try Islam.
In Christian, you have 38 000 sects, and each 1 damns the other 37 999 to hell. 450 versions of the Bible in English alone since 7th century
There is ONLY 1 Quran and 1 Islam. Stop wasting your life
Hi Father, I also live in a country unorthodox, Italy, but I love the True Christian Faith.
But vedento the little missionary activity, the calendar reform, ecumenism, and above all the false uninione with the Oriental Churches, who despite they have not accepted the 7 councils, are considered Orthodox since 1990, I got stuck in the Roman Catholic Church.
"May the sun bring you new energy by day, may the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being. May you walk through the world and know its beauty all the days of your life". – Apache Blessing
I don't buy any of the "Way to Salvation" ideas and not scared of what anyone says about Hell for those who are non-believers.God gave me "common sense" to reject these teachings. Your truth is not my truth.Plain & simple.Peace be with you.
"There is one God looking down on us all.We are the children of one God.God is listening to me.The sun,the darkness,the winds,are all listening to what we now say" Goyathlay (Geronimo)
@CarlosMacMartin "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honour, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church." St.Augustine 5th century
@PapalSoldier The name Catholic Church is misappropriation by Pope's church. "Catholic" means common for all, and the Orthodox Church is real catholic church which has kept the truth without any corruption. Do you remember which church has invented "filioque", "Indulgences", "temporal hell" and ect.
@Delisi7 "Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church... Council of Chalcedon,Session III (A.D. 451)
"The Spirit is God, from the Father and the Son." St.Epiphanius (A.D. 374).
So much for "invented" go research the early Church.
Catholic means universal, and the Catholic church was in business 200 years before Jesus came to be, and the Catholic Church began by killing Christians and feeding them to the lions, to move on to adopt "Christianity" and changing the message of Christ to suite their pagan taste.
@JesusChristMuslim you are fanatical idiot whose only purpose in life is to prove that jesus was muslim. No one cares about you and your little internet jihad. You've been trolling this video for weeks, obviously you have nothing smarter to do in your life. Get the fuck out of this video
@JesusChristMuslim It's a lie, before appearance of Jesus Christ the Church of the Christ didn't existed. And you are not aware of message of the Jesus Christ, as in the Bible wholly. And you believe in man who claimed that he was the chosen one and he had at least 10 wife and spreaded his faith with sword. And Christ's complete teaching took back in old times.
@JesusChristMuslim Jesus was Jewish..... WHAT A Coincidence!!! those are the people that MUSLIMS HATE the most...... Islam came around in the 500s, Mohammed died in the 600s so how would Jesus have been Muslim when your broken church had not even started then??
Reading the posts regarding Christians,Muslims,and Jews it's sad that human beings will never agree on religion,faith,or even food for that matter! My own personal belief is that if Jesus was here this very moment ,or any of the other great prophets and teachers,they'd probably agree on one thing.We have not made any progress,and still bicker and complain and continue a cycle of hatred & misunderstanding.Sometimes I think animals have more sense than humans.Sad! Peace be with all!
@CarlosMacMartin The doctrine of papal infallibility doesn't mean that the pope id infallible, rather that certain papal decrees - such as the Immaculate Conception - are (much in the same way the teachings of a council might be considered infallible). Mind you, I'm Orthodox, and don't agree! But it sounds like something it isn't.
@TheThreerobbers Papal infallibility happened at The Council of Chalcedon (Pope Leo) and Constantinople [Pope Agatho] (A.D.680)
If you don't understand the requirements please don't talk about it.
At the Council of Chalcedon in the year 451, the Pope's letter was read to the assemblage of bishops, and they cried with one voice: "Peter has spoken by Leo; let him be anathema who believes otherwise!"
@TheThreerobbers It was DEFINED at the Vatican Council. No different then the Divinity of Christ defined at the Council of Nicea? No different then the 2 Natures in Chalcedon.
I've learned to steer clear of anyone who says they have the "one true way","the truth", or "only way" to salvation or the "we are right and they are wrong" groups.Give me a break!
@gocraleigh Because no human being can condemn you to hell or guarantee you a place in heaven.Based on my conversations with people of various faiths it seems people are too busy trying to find life away from this planet rather than on it.Hey,I'm not disrespecting your beliefs.I just cannot agree that there is One Ultimate Religion.Again,we go back to the "we are right and you are wrong" camps.
BTW,I had a lengthy conversation with an Orthodox Father in my area recently and when I thought about the subjects we touched upon regarding the numerous Christian denominations I left thinking to myself,"What a horrible way to live" ! The doctrine makes a person feel extremely guilty and worry way too much.I thank GOD that I'm at peace and if I have to go present myself tomorrow, I have no worries about going to hell because I'm not baptized or confirmed or whatever.
Goog testomony. I am 40 yrs old and just converted to Orthodoxy. I was a Pentecostal and slowly realized that it was just a bunch of emotionalism. I wish I had discovered Orthodoxy years ago.
There are 38,000 Christian denominations & sects in Christendom, each with its own doctrine and teaching.
You will find the church that marries gays, so if you were a homosexual Christian, you can be find a suiting church.
Or if you were a White supremacist, you will find the church that suites. If you were a humanist, you will find a church that suites you. If you were more Jewish than Jews, you will find a church that suites you.
38 000 flavors of salvation, but no truth therein.
@JesusChristMuslim What about the disgusting practices on musilm women.Your own sharia law doesn't give any rights to women in sadia arabia.Those christian "cults" you mentioned don't belong in Christianity.We follow the true God not the dumb founders of these so called cults.
@JesusChristMuslim Hence why the Orthodox Church is unchanging with those secs.... and btw the Islamic church has many different sects and many priests even within any sect in Islam preach radically different things (i.e. some call death to Christians, while few others preach peace)
@JesusChristMuslim There are multiple sects of Islam, and they are killing each other in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. I saw Muslims in India venerating saints even, at the tomb of Nizammudin in New Delhi. But Sunnis would say this Shia practice is heretical.
@JesusChristMuslim I would I care for the 38,000 different sects when each was was created by a man, not God? Orthodox was created by Jesus Christ HIMSELF.... not some man in a cave who wanted death to the Jews........
@Boris30111 And sad how divided it is. I went to India for three months and couldn't take communion because of different ideas and translations about dual nature and dual person. orthodoxy is so splintered, which Orthodox church is the church founded by Christ?
@JesusChristMuslim The Orthodox do not use the KJV version of the bible........ and your Koran is so incomplete that I have confirmations from Islamic friends that it is very difficult to read and understand certain passages........
@JesusChristMuslim are you really implying that the Christian Church has no truth because it has different denominations? seriosly! Hmm jesuschristmuslim, so which are you Sunni or Shiite? Ethiopian, Egyptian? Wow Muslims have many different factions.
@JesusChristMuslim you are the more hipocrital of all the religions, the assassing that you beleave copy the bilble and forse too many to become muslims!, islam was spread by sword!, you pray 5 times a day but kill people even God said you will not kill!
@JesusChristMuslim this will be my last comment to you because i have better things to do with my time. America is not a Christian nation. The laws this nation makes have nothing to do with Christianity. Also in Islam you have nations declaring sharia law, making a nation muslim (nationalism). I think you are just an angry muslim who sits in his underwear in front of a computer picking fights with Christians becaus he is too much of a loser to debate them in person.
Jesus said, "None shall come to the Father but through me." By the way, according to the Q'uran, Jesus is a prophet. So, call on Him for guidance. You can't? Why? Christ said, "Love your enemies." and, "Turn the other cheek." How can this be evil? It is not evil because all men are made by God, so all men are created good. They may choose to twist their goodness, but only God has the right to take a life. The Canons of the Church say there is penance if you even kill by accident.
@JesusChristMuslim you sir...... are ridiculous. I don't what they tech over there in that backward Muslim Middle East.... have fun with your dictators
The ONLY reason we are "backward" is because our tyrants and dictators have been crucifying Muslims for the last 80 years or so to appease YOU and YOUR Western governments, which are not ironically run by you but but your Jews.
300 million Arabs have to live in prison and in sheer terror so that 3 million Jews in Israel can sleep the night.
We will be shipping ship back YOUR dictators back to you. You Westerners are pathetic. Your Jews are you gods, and your god is made out of paper called $.
@JesusChristMuslim surrreeeeee........... my leaders are definitely Jewish........ and i follow God not the American dollar which is not preforming well in this economy if i might add.
If you follow Jews, for rejected Christ, tried to kill him, cut off the head of John the Baptist, hunted down Christians like wild dogs chasing a savory meal, subverted and infiltrated your faith, it was none other Rabbi Sha'ul (Saul, Paul) who was well trained by a Pharisee Talmudic scholar Gamaliel, who changed the image and the words of the Muslim Messiah.
From a sword-wielding, strong-willed prophet who stormed the temple and called it "Den of Thieves" to a submissive lamb to be slaughtered
@JesusChristMuslim you sir are so deep in propaganda and thinking your muslim faith is soooo much better then anyone else's that there is no reason left in you..... what you speak of is rubbish, utter delusion and non-sense. You are no better then the nazi mentality of killing jews.... And because you religion calls for the death of God's creature (yes a jew is a person, just like you and I), I already know your god is false as my God loves all, even you.
@JesusChristMuslim how can we have possibly followed the jews...... the religion is entirely different..... AND i still hold to my belief that just on the premise of your god calling for hared for his own creature that that is a flawed god.... God loves all, and your Mohammed guy got it wrong..... he asked for God's help, and the Devil came to him.
BTW: you know your prostrations you do? ya... you got that from us :)
Jesus said: {23:13} But woe unto you, scribes, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves,] neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Now, Christians have their own Scribes class dictating salvation per obedience to the church & holy "fathers."
{7:8} For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men
Christians pride themselves in doctrinal traditions.
Jews subverted their scripture as Christians subverted gospel
@JesusChristMuslim There are many different Q'urans and it has already been shown there is not one Book. I have read some of the surrahs and find the teachings are not consistent. Muslims cannot prove that they know better what it means to be Christian. This can be scrutinized as brainwashing techniques to keep muslims from trusting any teachings outside their own. My challenge is that Muslims call on Jesus, since He is considered a prophet, and sincerely ask to know the Truth.
Christians have translated their Bibles in 2000 different languages. Christians have 450 different VERSIONS in the English language since the seventh century
First Bible I picked up was the Recovery VERSION and it claimed to be CLOSER and BETTER translation, so does the King James, the RSV Bible, the Good News Bible
But NOT a single Bible gives the ORIGINAL text from which they are all translating
But the Quran's ORIGINAL text is THERE alongside translation
@JesusChristMuslim Muhammad's words are worth as much as a German Rentenmark in the 1920s.... and if you are unfamiliar with history..... it was worth NOTHING. Such false prophets spin tales to get their way.
Let's not get nasty, as I can bring up the incest sex, incest children, nakedness, and countless shameful contradictions in your Bible.
It is sufficient for the Muslims that Quran has NO cases of incest therein. But in your Bible, at least 6 types of incest are lawful. Lot and his Daughters, Amram and Jochabed, Amnon and Thamar (brother seducing & raping his sister), Reuben and his mother, Judah and Thamar (father & daughter-in-law).
Or God having S-E-X with Sarah in her tent to beget Isaac.
It is sad that Christians, who capitalize their preaching on "loving your enemy" have been so incapable of loving one another, let alone their enemy!
For example, under the Apartheid, BOTH the oppressed and the oppressor were Christian. Whites had 1000 churches among them, while the Blacks had 3000. Despite overwhelming Blacks were Christians, and yet Whites kept them under the jackboot of oppression.
US outlawed mixed marriages up to 1967 (anti-miscegenation laws)
@JesusChristMuslim Finally, I find it truly ironic that you, as a Muslim, are talking about Apartheid. I mean really. The Church in Egypt has suffered 1400 years of Apartheid due to the Arab occupation, and the Church in Greece suffered 400 years of Turkish Apartheid.
When Muslims ruled, both Christians and Jews were allowed to coexist peacefully under the protection of Islam
We accept Jesus, as the Messiah and of miraculous birth, and we believe in the Gospel of Jesus. We also believe in Moses and the Torah revealed to Moses
But when Christian Crusaders invaded Palestine & Andalusia, they killed Muslims (as YOU reject Muhammad) and killed Jews for rejecting Jesus
When Jews ruled Palestine, both Christians & Muslims expelled
@JesusChristMuslim You are mixing together many things. The Orthodox empire was also the target of the Western Crusaders, who sacked Constantinople in 1204. The Orthodox were very tolerant of Muslims in their empire.
@JesusChristMuslim You are going all over the place with your arguments. I was referring to the Orthodox empire in the Middle Ages in my previous point. In regards to the Copts, they are the victims of Islamic fanaticism. Stop trying to make it out like they are the aggressors. The Serbian situation you are clearly unfamiliar with, as atrocities were committed by Muslims, too. It is impossible to talk to you, because you won't stick to one subject.
The Jews see u as canon fodder. You are following a Pharisee (Paul, Acts 23:6 I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee), a proud Jew ({11:1} Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an ISRAELITE)
We believe in Jesus and the Gospel of Jesus, yet Christians and Zionist-led America are killing Muslims and having sons of Christians maimed and cleaved to appease the deniers of Christ, who boast they killed him, by killing believers-in-Christ Muslims
May Allah guide you to Islam from the filth of Christendom. Jesus has NOTHING to do with "Christianity."
Jesus did NOT pose for his portrait to be drawn by some Orthodox painter, and then a halo from one of the three gods came over his head to make the portrait all the more dramatic.
Did Jesus look like that? No, this is your imagination, what you want Jesus to be, NOT what he was.
@JesusChristMuslim St. Peter Mavimenus (A.D. 743): "Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian religion will be damned, as was your false prophet Mohammed." (Roman Martyrology, February 21st) [Upon this profession of the faith, the infidel murdered him.]
Saint George of San Saba (died A.D. 852): "Mohammed was a disciple of the devil, and his followers are in a state of perdition." (In "Victories of the Martyrs" by Saint Alphonsus)
There is not a day that goes by and I do not thank Allah for being a Muslim.
You have taken up your Saints and Popes as deities with Allah, permitting what Allah has made forbidden and forbidding what Allah has permitted.
Jesus Christ damned the Jews for having Scribes, Pharisees, and clergy that monopolized and subverted commandments of Moses, and YOU the Christians now have your own class of Scribes and Pharisees overriding and toying with Commandments of Muslim Jesus.
@JesusChristMuslim Also, when I was in India, I saw many Muslims at the tomb of Nizamuddin Auliya offering prayers and laying flowers in front of it. Reminded me a lot of our practice with saints.
@Stevesiekingsley I didn't ever convert to another religion. I dabbled in New Age things but always attended Church. Lutheran, Catholic, and Orthodox are all Christian They didn't really have much to say about the New Age stuff since it was more of a teenage phase. Becoming Catholic provoked some discussion and opposition, but they respected my decision. To them, since I believe in Christ, that's good enough.
@Stevesiekingsley My final destination, Orthodoxy, was a slow, drawn out journey (over six years) and perhaps it was anti-climactic. There was almost no discussion about that. I think that Orthodoxy and Catholicism seem very close to each other to a Protestant.
@gocraleigh This is true, I found an orthodox mission station near my home and go frequently. I had stopped for a while( about a year or so) for various reasons one being the fact that my father hates anything that may in some way have something to do with the pope. He has never forced me to stop going, or told me not to, or even given me an ultimatum, but has made it very clear he is adverse to the idea and against any conversion as he finds it sacreligious.
@Andytheantiathiest I don't believe in any pagan doctrines. As we sang in Church on Christmas Eve: "When Augustus reigned alone upon earth, the many kingdoms of men came to end: and when Thou wast made man of the pure Virgin, the many gods of idolatry were destroyed. The cities of the world passed under one single rule; and the nations came to believe in one sovereign Godhead. The peoples were enrolled by the decree of Caesar; and we, the faithful...
@Andytheantiathiest I confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and that I could never save myself, but need Christ to be saved...so by your Protestant reasoning, I have said the sinner's prayer and believe it sincerely, so I am good to go. So you have nothing to worry about.
@chico388 I realize that there are various types of Protestants, and my Lutheran Church did not accept the believer's prayer theory. I was being facetious in my response to the guy who condemned me to hell for alleged paganism. Sorry if that was not clear.
@Andytheantiathiest Orthodoxy , the ounly holy chirch of Jisus Christ! ''Who believes and becomes baptized, will be saved, and who doesnt beleve will be sentenced''
yes I disagree the orthodoxs say their churches are the only true church because the catholicism says the same thing and both churches have more in common and less differences but I wish orthodoxs don't see the catholics as non-christians.
@supernatural2029 I never said we don't view you as Christian (i.e. follower of Christ). There is, however, only one Church. It is irrelevant that both Churches claim the same thing; we need to go through history, study the issue, and identify which one better maintained the Apostolic teaching. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed being Roman Catholic and learned a lot there, but the Papacy is an innovation and not Apostolic. Papal infallibility is heresy, so I had to leave.
@gocraleigh just like the "Holy Trinity" was an innovation in 325, just like "The Mother of God" was in innovation in 431, just like the "Hypostatic Union" was an innovation in 451. God is with His Church until the consummation of the world, NOT 787. Ecumenical councils before the orthodox sect started called The Bishop of Rome the head of the Church, the orthodox disagree with the council fathers. The Papacy is hands down the easiest Catholic Dogma to prove.
@PapalSoldier The are hardly the same, because there are clear references to Trinity, Theotokos, two natures of Christ, etc. before they were codified in council, which is in contrast to Papism which grasps at straws and quotes taken out of context, and even forgeries, to prove its claims, which were rammed through. And we have had ecumenical councils after 787, such as in 879, when Pope John VIII attended and anathematized the Filioque along with the other Orthodox bishops.
@gocraleigh that council was not ecumenical even a famous "orthodox" bishop says "orthodoxy" accepts ONLY the first 7, (so much for unity) The 4th ecumenical council of Constantinople declared Photius a heretic. The "orthodox" can't even put together one ecumenical council since the schism, it's also ironic how you say "anathematized" the Filioque considering THREE Greek Church Fathers said "And The Son" BTW do you even know what makes a council ecumenical?
@PapalSoldier Which famous bishop is that? The Fourth "Ecumenical" Council of Constantinople in 869 was annulled by the Council of 879, when Pope John returned to communion with St Photios and anathamatized the filioque, even placing silver plates with the original Creed in his cathedral. That Council of 869 was only restored in the 1100s when the Papist reformers searched for ammunition against lay investiture and found a canon from that forgotten council which they found useful.
@gocraleigh these are nothing but anti-Catholic lies, 1."orthodoxy" ONLY accepts the first 7 E-Councils, 2. The 9th E-Council was the Lateran 3. you want me to take you seriously when saying Pope John placed silver plaques? it was actually Pope Leo III, Charlemagne wanted to add the Filioque(and he was right, because it would become a Catholic Dogma later) But Pope Leo III rejected Charlemagne's idea so as not to alienate the Byzantine Greeks.
@PapalSoldier Much of my knowledge on this topic comes from Fr Francis Dvornik's "The Photian Schism" and an article "Which Councils are Ecumenical?" (the latter article is online). Fr Dvornik was a Roman Catholic priest. The fact that you call the Roman people of Constantinople "Byzantine Greeks" demonstrates either ignorance or malice. If it's easier for you to just call this all "anti-Catholic lies" then go ahead, but you will continue to miss the truth.
@gocraleigh You can't read one book, i have read A LOT of material about church history, all you would have to do is see who was the Pope at the time.This is common knowledge, what were they? they surely were not Latin, only a handful were.
With all due respect, i can't take you seriously any more saying things like "Pope John" had the silver plaques made, and then blaming it on a book.
@PapalSoldier C'mon. People make mistakes when writing online away from their sources ALL THE TIME. If that discredits me in your mind, so be it. And please don't say "with all due respect" because you obviously have no respect for me, given the way you have been posting here. So anyway, I can't read one book; ok. Question for you then: where did you get your Master's Degree in Theology? I might want to check that place out.
@gocraleigh "People make mistakes when writing online away..." yea, we are not discussing baseball, obviously this is something major, this proves you don't look at other Catholic positions, as if historians never get there info wrong. It's kind of hard to be real nice when you attack God's Church while not knowing anything regrading it's teaching. EVERYTHING The Catholic Church teaches is Biblical.
@PapalSoldier How does making a factual error in a pope's name prove that I don't look at other Catholic positions? I know a lot more than you think I do about Papist teaching. Again, where did you get your Master's Degree in Theology?
@gocraleigh sure you do, i suppose you also know church history better(sarcasm) Why does it matter to you? is this a cop out? you don't look at because you say lies about The Catholic Church(im being honest) Even though "orthodoxy" can be refuted in many many ways.
@PapalSoldier The filioque, the use of unleavened bread, Immaculate Conception, celibate clergy, are all not Scripturally sound. It is a shame you have been so brainwashed.
St.John 15:26 But when the Paraclete cometh, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me. "Whom I will send" THIS PROVES THAT THE HOLY GHOST PROCEEDS FROM THE SON AS WELL AS THE FATHER, OTHERWISE HE COULD NOT BE SENT BY THE SON.
"The Holy Spirit also, when He proceeds from the Father and the Son.." St. Ambrose (A.D. 381)
@PapalSoldier If you were to really look at Scriptures, when leavened bread was used the term "bread" was stated. When unleavened bread was used it stated such. Jesus took "bread" in His hands and blessed it.
@gocraleigh BTW NOT ONE Church Father denied the Filioque and I have many more quotes if your interested, also it's biblical, read St.John 15:26, Jesus said "Whom i will send" which proves The Holy Ghost proceeds from Him as well.
@PapalSoldier Which Three Greek Church Fathers said that, and what was the context? Yes, I "even" know what makes a council ecumenical. The first criterion of ecumenicity is that it is called by the Roman Emperor. After all, that is what "oikoumene" refers to-the Christian Roman Empire. Councils after the Empire are called Pan-Orthodox, and there have been several.
@gocraleigh "The Spirit is God, from the Father and the Son." St.Epiphanius, The Man Well-Anchored, 9 (A.D. 374).
"Who profanely think that they can slight the dignity of the Holy Spirit because He is named by the Divine lips after the Father and the Son." St.Gregory of Nyssa, Against Macedonians, 6 (A.D. 377).
"Our Lord teaches that the being of the Spirit is derived not from the Spirit Himself, but from the Father and the Son..." St.Didymus the Blind of Alexandria (A.D. 381)
@PapalSoldier Thank you for the quotes. The second quote clearly does not teach filioqueism so that is a stretch. I will have a look at the other two when time permits.
@trueorthodoxfaith any council not with Rome IS NO council at all, it's no different then a protestant meeting, also robber councils like that of Ephesus in 449, or when over 100 eastern bishops approved of arianism in 341.
“Declared, when desired by the Emperor Anastasius to condemn the Council of Chalcedon, that such a step, without an ecumenical Synod presided over by the Pope, was impossible.” Macedonius, Patriarch of Constantinople (466-516 A.D.)
@trueorthodoxfaith ecumenical councils since Nicea of 787. 4th council of Constantinople in 869-870. First Lateran Council 1123 A.D. Second Lateran Council - 1139 A.D. Third Lateran Council - 1179 A.D. Fourth Lateran Council : 1215 im going to stop here because you can careless.
you do realize some Greeks returned at the Council of Florence right? and acknowledge the supremacy of the Pope? Papal infallibility existed since St.Peter said who the Son of Man is and St.Luke 22:31-32=Official
@trueorthodoxfaith How can Peter be infallible? Because God gave him this gift. And When The Pope speaks on faith and morals and a doctrine that binds the ENTIRE Catholic Church, He speaks infallibly. Just like the same way God gave St.Peter the answer to whom the Son of Man is, no one knew, it had to be revealed. And regarding unleavened bread Rome always used it. "For it has never been allowed to discuss again what has once been decided by the Apostolic See" Pope Boniface A.D. 422
@PapalSoldier What about the other twelve Apostles, didn't they also receive the gift from God? The Latin Church did not always use unleavened bread. The West began using unleavened bread in the 8th & 9th centuries. It became a common practice after the schism, in the 11th century. So here again, the Latins deviated from the traditions of the early church.
@trueorthodoxfaith again more lies, became a "common practice?" after the schism? Rome has been using it, Michael Cerularius just wanted something to start a schism over and split from Rome, he wrote to Pope Leo IX in 1053 so that makes you a liar.
"'But,' you [Jovinian] will say, 'it was on Peter that the Church was founded' [Matt. 16:18]. Well . . . one among the twelve is chosen to be their head in order to remove any occasion for division." St. Jerome, "Against Jovinian," c. 393 A.D.
"Mussolini is the man God has sent us" - Pope Pius of Rome..you still cannot defend and justify this act of faith (which is suppose to be infallible) by Pope Pius of Rome! To say a racist killer like Mussolini was sent from God is blasphemous! You said you were not familiar with this history well get familiar with it quickly! The Catholic Church supported the invasion of Mussolini which burned down Churches and killed many innocent people thanks to the pope!
@ethi0nz I'm beginning to think your mentally ill, "which is suppose to be infallible"
I think your confusing the word "infallibility" with "impeccability" "The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the Apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither the stain nor blemish nor anything like it"
@PapalSoldier Just look at the case of the sorry Pope Vigilius, who wanted really badly to be a heretic and accept the Three Chapters, who lied to the Emperor Saint Justinian the Great, and who was later exposed for his lies and vacilations by the Great Saint, who had to force him to sign an Orthodox confession--at which point the Metropolitan of Aquilia broke communion with the Pope--I guess he didn't believe in Papal Infallibility & Universal jurisdiction back then.
@gocraleigh 1. Papal Infallibility is not impeccability.2. if you don't know the requirements for Papal infallibility ask. 3. Do you even know what Emperor Justinian said? and do you agree? "Let your Apostleship show that you have worthily succeeded to the Apostle Peter, since the Lord will work through you, as Supreme Pastor, the salvation of all. (A.D. 520 Emperor Justinian to Pope Hormisdas).
@PapalSoldier 1. Of course. If you haven't noticed, Youtube comments are not exactly conducive to full discussion and misunderstandings are common. 2. I have access to the Papist primary sources. For the record, I don't like the tone you are taking in your comments. 3. The Acacian Schism and its resolution put that quote in its proper context. Also, how the Great saint later subdued the heretic Vigilius in order to protect the Church put it in context.
@PapalSoldier Again, misleading quotes. "Supreme pastor "has nothing to do with infallibility. There are requirements for papal infallibility? How funny. This never existed in the early church. I urge you to research how the Franks altered the Latin church into a political center, and how the Ultramontanism movement influenced the Latin church and achieved victory with papal universal authority at Vatican I.
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boideye 1 week ago
PEACE BE WITH ALL REGARDLESS OF RELIGION
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@CarlosMacMartin I agree with peace towards all, but I find that if we try to stand with all, we end up standing with none. That's why I believe in treating everyone with love (I fail at this sometimes) but not affirming all beliefs as equal or worthy of respect. I don't respect the beliefs of Jim Jones, White Supremacists, etc. I don't think most people do, either. I don't think there is anything wrong with being honest about this.
gocraleigh 1 week ago 3
@gocraleigh True.Any beliefs that advocate hatred or violence towards other humans,
animals,or creation are meaningless and should be ignored.Cults or people who use mind control also should be avoided as well.I would say there are rules that should be followed regardless of faith.I say we should stand with those who have
respect and love for all creation.There's good people in all religions as there is also bad.I choose to socialize with good people regardless of their faith.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
I agree with blocking people when they curse or show great disrespect, but not when stating their difference of opinion on doctrine.Everyone has the right to voice their opinions.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@CarlosMacMartin The Muslim fellow did blaspheme and showed great respect, and also refused to engage me on the points I raised, so I grew tired of him; the Catholic fellow seemed rather immature and incapable of a serious discussion, just throwing quotes around, and was taking away from the discussion IMO. I didn't ban them for their beliefs though, but for their approach.
gocraleigh 1 week ago 2
Agreed the Muslim has some issues that need to be worked out.I would suggest he go up on a mountain and really think about the matter.Any religion that advocates harming other humans or creation is the wrong way to go.Nothing can be gained from hatred.A person has to be truly at peace before being at peace with others.I can proclaim that I am at peace.God has blessed me with a faithful
wife,wonderful children,and a good life.I thank God every waking day for what I have received.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@MiloBoz Yeah,but doesn't make it the "absolute truth" or "true religion". God doesn't need any middlemen.
CarlosMacMartin 2 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin Agreed. That's really my problem with modern Christianity (Paulianity).Jesus himself always eliminated the middleman, yet somehow most christians forget that.."Oh father, why have you foresaken me?" < Doesn't sound like something God would say to himself. I don't believe God would question himself, nor pray to himself. Jesus did both those things. I believe in his divinity but not that he was God. He bowed down before God like Abraham and taught other people to do the same.
MiloBoz 2 weeks ago in playlist God & Monotheism
@MiloBoz A great man indeed but divine I'm not convinced.Also I don't believe that he ever stated "the only way to God is thru me". I've has discussions with Jesuits,Baptists,
Orthodox,various forms of Protestants,and some other wanna be groups better called
"cults",also Muslims,Jews,Hindus,& Buddhists.The majority think that they have found
"The Way" or have something exclusive to everyone else & it's amazing how brainwashed
people are into following those Fundamentalist ideas.
CarlosMacMartin 2 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin If there is no universal truth, how can you assert that God does not need a middleman? And what do you mean by a middleman?
gocraleigh 1 week ago
@gocraleigh I never said universal truth.I said absolute truth.Please do not put words in my mouth or misconstrue what I've stated.I think you know exactly what I mean
by "middlemen".
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
If I want to talk to God,I talk to him.If I do something wrong or make a mistake I ask for forgiveness.I don't need to ask a stranger what I need to do to make things right with God.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
I've addressed you with respect,so before you block let me just state that it is my own belief that people need to cultivate a relationship with God on their own,all by themselves.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@CarlosMacMartin I am not going to block you because as you said, you are respectful. I blocked the other two fellows for being rude, confrontational, blasphemous, and for dominating the comments section on my video without actually addressing the video itself. To answer your point, I believe that we have to have both a personal and a corporate relationship with God. Union with God also presupposes union with fellow man. One body, one family.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
@gocraleigh I understand.I just believe that God gave me a mind to use.To question any & all forms of faith,doctrine,and religions.Not to just take any man's word for absolute truth.
Absolute Truth meaning only One Way...that is exclusive to one group or religion.How
are people supposed to find the truth when so many groups & denominations claim to
have the truth or the only way to salvation? Honestly,it's insanity! I'm not just talking about Christians.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@CarlosMacMartin It's not just about getting forgiveness; it is about being restored to the community, which is why Jesus Christ instituted confession to clergy in the New Testament, as representatives of the Body. We also need guides who have already walked the walk and have learned to teach us; you can only get so far by being self-taught. Those who strike out on their own usually end up in delusion. It's like taking a drive to a new place without a GPS.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
@gocraleigh I understand your point.I just think it's not as complicated as most would think.That's my humble opinion based on my nearly 40 years on this earth.
CarlosMacMartin 1 week ago
@CarlosMacMartin It was not my intention to put words in your mouth. I was not aware of a distinction between "absolute truth" and "universal truth." That's why I am asking. I am not sure what you mean by a middleman, no, so please don't assume that I am trying to play games. I am asking so I understand what you mean before responding.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
There is no doubt that true Christianity came from God. But here is the problem I see with the way most Christians think TODAY. I would love to know what you think about: 1. The notion that all it takes for your sins to be erased is to profess belief in Jesus & that your actions are less important then aligning yourself with the church and 2. The fact that the priest has power to intercede, and like in the Catholic church, forgive you of your sins for you, in the name of God.
MiloBoz 2 weeks ago in playlist God & Monotheism
@MiloBoz 3. The fact that no non-Christian can make it into heaven. The idea that the Monotheist who did good, never fornicated and prayed all his life but never aligned with the church is a sinner who has no chance of walking through the heavenly gates. And likewise that Christians who do bad things and go to confession once a year are going to be "saved". IMO, this all defies logic and is counter-productive to Christianity. Which is why I think Orthodox is the purest form of Christianity.
MiloBoz 2 weeks ago in playlist God & Monotheism
Different indeed, considering who was at Nicea and Chalcedon, as opposed to who was at the Vatican Council. The Vatican Council isn't an Ecumenical Council, and you know that. Besides, "first among equals" and Papal Infalliblity are separate concepts. Vatican I didn't define your quote from the council, unless by serious heretical extrapolation. Sure Peter spoke by Leo. But that has nothing to do with Pious IX. Anyway, I love Catholicism, am deeply glad I converted to Orthodoxy.
TheThreerobbers 2 weeks ago
@TheThreerobbers OF course the Vatican Council was Ecumenical, the term "first among equals" was NEVER a title for The Bishop of Rome. So stop with that nonsense. Pope Leo's Tome was Dogmatic. “You know that the Synodal laws have it that if any doubt arise in matters pertaining to the state of the church, we have recourse to the Bishop of the Roman Church as to our head.” St.Avitus (ca. 495 A.D.)
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
@PapalSoldier I'm tired of you trolling my video to post your papist heresies. You've had quite free reign here, but the party is over now. I'm blocking you.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
Father Anastasie God bless you. It is really a miracle taking place in the US i.e. the rate of conversions to the Orthodox Faith. Btw have you ever heard the speech of Father Seraphim Bell at Christmas 1996 about why did he become an orthodox?. It is very touching and illustrates many issues.
Once s.o. gets to understand the critical issue of how Catholicism and Protestantism deviated, then almost everything becomes apparent and clear.
Greetings from Greece.
rd4859 2 weeks ago
In Christianity, you have 38 000 sects, and each 1 damns the other 37 999 to hell. 450 versions of the Bible in English alone since 7th century
If it takes 1 year to study each of the 38 000 doctrines of the 38 000 sects of Christianity, and 1 year for each of the 450 versions of the Bible in English alone
Then you have to live 38 450 years to KNOW and AFFIRM which Christian sect is true and which is Bible is factual.
But on the 38 451st, you will happily accept Islam.
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim You intolerant, fanatical muslim piece of shit, stop trolling christian videos! If you hope your idiotic "facts" will convert anyone into islam, you are retarded. No one cares! Every christian on this world hates islam because of fanatics such as you! Please stop playing your little game "prophet Mohammed online" and please go stuck up explosives in your pants, and blow yourself up to your muslim heaven. You fanatics are the best at doing that
PravoZborisMudraSovo 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim You keep repeating the same lies, such that there are 38,000 sects of Christianity, and that they all condemn each other to hell, etc. For that reason, I am going to block you from further commenting, because you are not discussing, but rather just repeating yourself over and over again. That is really boring and annoying.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
Bless Father,
I to am embracing Orthodoxy after 50 years of being a Roman Catholic Religious. Glory to Jesus Christ.
BrVincentGa 2 weeks ago
@BrVincentGa “You cannot deny that you know that in the city of Rome the Chair was first conferred on Peter, in which the prince of all the Apostles, Peter, sat, . . . in which Chair unity should be preserved by all, so that he should now be a schismatic and a sinner who should set up another Chair against that unique one.” St. Optatus of Milevis (ca. 370 A.D.)
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
@PapalSoldier Stop making crusades on youtube, you catholic fanatic
PravoZborisMudraSovo 2 weeks ago
@PravoZborisMudraSovo says the anti-Catholic.
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
@PapalSoldier says the Orthodox Christian. If you consider Orthodox Christians to be anti-Catholic, that only shows how narrow, simple minded you are
PravoZborisMudraSovo 2 weeks ago
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@PravoZborisMudraSovo If the "orthodox" reject a belief from the early Church, then yes they are anti-Catholic, most however are ignorant along with the protestants of Church history.
"To be deep in history is to cease being a protestant." - John Henry Newman
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
Why after FIFTY years of your lifetime would YOU jump from the Christians-killing Roman church to yet another offshoot of the same corrupt tree of Christianity???
I advise you to read the Quran because if 50 long and arduous years of having ZERO spiritual enlightment from Christianity, try Islam.
In Christian, you have 38 000 sects, and each 1 damns the other 37 999 to hell. 450 versions of the Bible in English alone since 7th century
There is ONLY 1 Quran and 1 Islam. Stop wasting your life
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
Hi Father, I also live in a country unorthodox, Italy, but I love the True Christian Faith.
But vedento the little missionary activity, the calendar reform, ecumenism, and above all the false uninione with the Oriental Churches, who despite they have not accepted the 7 councils, are considered Orthodox since 1990, I got stuck in the Roman Catholic Church.
RettaDottrina 2 weeks ago
"May the sun bring you new energy by day, may the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being. May you walk through the world and know its beauty all the days of your life". – Apache Blessing
CarlosMacMartin 2 weeks ago
I don't buy any of the "Way to Salvation" ideas and not scared of what anyone says about Hell for those who are non-believers.God gave me "common sense" to reject these teachings. Your truth is not my truth.Plain & simple.Peace be with you.
CarlosMacMartin 2 weeks ago
"There is one God looking down on us all.We are the children of one God.God is listening to me.The sun,the darkness,the winds,are all listening to what we now say" Goyathlay (Geronimo)
Apache Medicine Man & War Chief 1829-1909
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honour, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church." St.Augustine 5th century
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
@PapalSoldier The name Catholic Church is misappropriation by Pope's church. "Catholic" means common for all, and the Orthodox Church is real catholic church which has kept the truth without any corruption. Do you remember which church has invented "filioque", "Indulgences", "temporal hell" and ect.
Delisi7 2 weeks ago
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@Delisi7 "Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church... Council of Chalcedon,Session III (A.D. 451)
"The Spirit is God, from the Father and the Son." St.Epiphanius (A.D. 374).
So much for "invented" go research the early Church.
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
The Christian says:
"Catholic means common for all"
Catholic means universal, and the Catholic church was in business 200 years before Jesus came to be, and the Catholic Church began by killing Christians and feeding them to the lions, to move on to adopt "Christianity" and changing the message of Christ to suite their pagan taste.
So, the question that poses itself is:
Was Jesus Catholic? NO.
Was Jesus Orthodox? NO.
Was Jesus Protestant? NO.
Was Jesus Methodist? NO.
Jesus was Muslim
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim you are fanatical idiot whose only purpose in life is to prove that jesus was muslim. No one cares about you and your little internet jihad. You've been trolling this video for weeks, obviously you have nothing smarter to do in your life. Get the fuck out of this video
PravoZborisMudraSovo 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim It's a lie, before appearance of Jesus Christ the Church of the Christ didn't existed. And you are not aware of message of the Jesus Christ, as in the Bible wholly. And you believe in man who claimed that he was the chosen one and he had at least 10 wife and spreaded his faith with sword. And Christ's complete teaching took back in old times.
Delisi7 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim Take your anti-Christ heresy somewhere else please, no one wants you or your false message here.
In case you did not know the ancient name for God in the hebrew is in the plural, not singular, Jesus is the opposite of Muhammad.
"Catholic Church was in Business 200 yrs before Jesus came to be"...let this statement of yours be the main line of your "Theology".
gespb32 2 weeks ago
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@JesusChristMuslim Take your anti-Christ heresy somewhere else please, no one wants you or your false message here.
In case you did not know the ancient name for God in the hebrew is in the plural, not singular, Jesus is the opposite of Muhammad.
"Catholic Church was in Business 200 yrs before Jesus came to be"...let this statement of yours be the main line of your "Theology".
gespb32 2 weeks ago
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@JesusChristMuslim Take your anti-Christ heresy somewhere else please, no one wants you or your false message here.
In case you did not know the ancient name for God in the hebrew is in the plural, not singular, Jesus is the opposite of Muhammad.
"Catholic Church was in Business 200 yrs before Jesus came to be"...let this statement of yours be the main line of your "Theology".
gespb32 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim Jesus was Jewish..... WHAT A Coincidence!!! those are the people that MUSLIMS HATE the most...... Islam came around in the 500s, Mohammed died in the 600s so how would Jesus have been Muslim when your broken church had not even started then??
Boris30111 2 weeks ago
Reading the posts regarding Christians,Muslims,and Jews it's sad that human beings will never agree on religion,faith,or even food for that matter! My own personal belief is that if Jesus was here this very moment ,or any of the other great prophets and teachers,they'd probably agree on one thing.We have not made any progress,and still bicker and complain and continue a cycle of hatred & misunderstanding.Sometimes I think animals have more sense than humans.Sad! Peace be with all!
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
Sorry but no one on this planet is infallible.What a joke to even suggest this!
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin I would agree that no individual is infallible.
gocraleigh 3 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin The doctrine of papal infallibility doesn't mean that the pope id infallible, rather that certain papal decrees - such as the Immaculate Conception - are (much in the same way the teachings of a council might be considered infallible). Mind you, I'm Orthodox, and don't agree! But it sounds like something it isn't.
TheThreerobbers 2 weeks ago
@TheThreerobbers Papal infallibility happened at The Council of Chalcedon (Pope Leo) and Constantinople [Pope Agatho] (A.D.680)
If you don't understand the requirements please don't talk about it.
At the Council of Chalcedon in the year 451, the Pope's letter was read to the assemblage of bishops, and they cried with one voice: "Peter has spoken by Leo; let him be anathema who believes otherwise!"
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
@PapalSoldier Try First Vatican Council, 1870.
TheThreerobbers 2 weeks ago
@TheThreerobbers It was DEFINED at the Vatican Council. No different then the Divinity of Christ defined at the Council of Nicea? No different then the 2 Natures in Chalcedon.
PapalSoldier 2 weeks ago
I've learned to steer clear of anyone who says they have the "one true way","the truth", or "only way" to salvation or the "we are right and they are wrong" groups.Give me a break!
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
@CarlosMacMartin Why?
gocraleigh 3 weeks ago
@gocraleigh Because no human being can condemn you to hell or guarantee you a place in heaven.Based on my conversations with people of various faiths it seems people are too busy trying to find life away from this planet rather than on it.Hey,I'm not disrespecting your beliefs.I just cannot agree that there is One Ultimate Religion.Again,we go back to the "we are right and you are wrong" camps.
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
BTW,I had a lengthy conversation with an Orthodox Father in my area recently and when I thought about the subjects we touched upon regarding the numerous Christian denominations I left thinking to myself,"What a horrible way to live" ! The doctrine makes a person feel extremely guilty and worry way too much.I thank GOD that I'm at peace and if I have to go present myself tomorrow, I have no worries about going to hell because I'm not baptized or confirmed or whatever.
CarlosMacMartin 3 weeks ago
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TheGreatSquash 3 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim stop trolling every christian youtube vid!
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JesusChristMuslim 3 weeks ago
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I have to give the message of Islam to YOU, the Christians....
I have seen some of you convert and accept Islam, so I hope the same thing happens to EVERY CHRISTIAN
ISLAM: THE NATURAL SUCCESSION OF JESUS CHRIST
JesusChristMuslim 3 weeks ago
Goog testomony. I am 40 yrs old and just converted to Orthodoxy. I was a Pentecostal and slowly realized that it was just a bunch of emotionalism. I wish I had discovered Orthodoxy years ago.
raddberry 3 weeks ago 2
There are 38,000 Christian denominations & sects in Christendom, each with its own doctrine and teaching.
You will find the church that marries gays, so if you were a homosexual Christian, you can be find a suiting church.
Or if you were a White supremacist, you will find the church that suites. If you were a humanist, you will find a church that suites you. If you were more Jewish than Jews, you will find a church that suites you.
38 000 flavors of salvation, but no truth therein.
JesusChristMuslim 3 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim What about the disgusting practices on musilm women.Your own sharia law doesn't give any rights to women in sadia arabia.Those christian "cults" you mentioned don't belong in Christianity.We follow the true God not the dumb founders of these so called cults.
skategurl1102 3 weeks ago 2
@JesusChristMuslim Hence why the Orthodox Church is unchanging with those secs.... and btw the Islamic church has many different sects and many priests even within any sect in Islam preach radically different things (i.e. some call death to Christians, while few others preach peace)
Boris30111 3 weeks ago 5
" Islamic church has many different sects," B-O-R-R-I-S says.
Amazing the sheer ignorance of Christians have towards Islam. Islam is the SIMPLEST, MOST PURE, and ONLY cohesive form of worship ever to exist.
There is no church in Islam, and thus, there is NO papacy in Islam. There is NO clergy, archbishop, cardinals..
There are NO Ecumenical councils EVER in Islam.
Our Quran was revealed in 23 years, and it is complete.
Your King James Bible took 1611 years, and FAR from completion.
JesusChristMuslim 3 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim There are multiple sects of Islam, and they are killing each other in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. I saw Muslims in India venerating saints even, at the tomb of Nizammudin in New Delhi. But Sunnis would say this Shia practice is heretical.
gocraleigh 3 weeks ago
There are regrettably two main sects of Islam: Shiite: ~ 10% , Sunni ~ 90%. Split is over political reasons, not scriptural.
Now, let's look at the Christians. 38,000 sects and denominations.
You mock us for having 2 sects, YOU have 38 000 sects:
Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Seventh Day Adventist, Orthodox, Lutheran, Evangelical, Amish, Mennonites, Lattery Day Saints, etc etc..
And they are ALL ideologically DIFFERENT because people differ over lack of knowledge
JesusChristMuslim 3 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim I would I care for the 38,000 different sects when each was was created by a man, not God? Orthodox was created by Jesus Christ HIMSELF.... not some man in a cave who wanted death to the Jews........
Boris30111 2 weeks ago
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"Orthodox was created by Jesus Christ HIMSELF," says the Christian.
Produce your proof, if ye are truthful says the Quran.
What PROOF do YOU have that Jesus was an Orthodox, not a Catholic?
In classical Christian usage, the term orthodox refers to a set of doctrines which gained prominence in the 4th century AD.
i.e. 400 years after Jesus.
And "Orthodox" doctrine is NOT exclusive to Orthodox denomination either! Orthodoxy exist in Protestantism like like the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
@Boris30111 And sad how divided it is. I went to India for three months and couldn't take communion because of different ideas and translations about dual nature and dual person. orthodoxy is so splintered, which Orthodox church is the church founded by Christ?
TheThreerobbers 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim The Orthodox do not use the KJV version of the bible........ and your Koran is so incomplete that I have confirmations from Islamic friends that it is very difficult to read and understand certain passages........
Boris30111 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim are you really implying that the Christian Church has no truth because it has different denominations? seriosly! Hmm jesuschristmuslim, so which are you Sunni or Shiite? Ethiopian, Egyptian? Wow Muslims have many different factions.
raddberry 2 weeks ago
In Islam, there is NO nationalism. This nationalism disease was exported by the colonial European powers and domestic Christian swine.
But YOU, the Christians, hate one another.
In South Africa under the apartheid, both the oppressed and oppressor were Christian.
In mighty US of A, your anti-miscegenation laws were in effect until 1967, blocking White Christian marrying a Black Christian.
YOU people are the MOST hypocritical swine EVER to walk this Earth.
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim you are the more hipocrital of all the religions, the assassing that you beleave copy the bilble and forse too many to become muslims!, islam was spread by sword!, you pray 5 times a day but kill people even God said you will not kill!
luisbassooon 2 weeks ago
Note, Christian, HYPOCRITICAL is the proper spelling of your "hipocritical."
"Islam was spread by the sword," says the unlearned Christian.
In the Quran, the word "sword" is NOT mentioned ONCE.
In your Bible, the word "sword" is mentioned +200 times.
I rest my case.
JesusChristMuslim 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim this will be my last comment to you because i have better things to do with my time. America is not a Christian nation. The laws this nation makes have nothing to do with Christianity. Also in Islam you have nations declaring sharia law, making a nation muslim (nationalism). I think you are just an angry muslim who sits in his underwear in front of a computer picking fights with Christians becaus he is too much of a loser to debate them in person.
raddberry 2 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim Iraq, Iran war...... they used suicide bombers on the Iran side...... so yaaaaa
Boris30111 2 weeks ago
Jesus said, "None shall come to the Father but through me." By the way, according to the Q'uran, Jesus is a prophet. So, call on Him for guidance. You can't? Why? Christ said, "Love your enemies." and, "Turn the other cheek." How can this be evil? It is not evil because all men are made by God, so all men are created good. They may choose to twist their goodness, but only God has the right to take a life. The Canons of the Church say there is penance if you even kill by accident.
kathrynpaine9 4 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim you sir...... are ridiculous. I don't what they tech over there in that backward Muslim Middle East.... have fun with your dictators
Boris30111 1 month ago
The ONLY reason we are "backward" is because our tyrants and dictators have been crucifying Muslims for the last 80 years or so to appease YOU and YOUR Western governments, which are not ironically run by you but but your Jews.
300 million Arabs have to live in prison and in sheer terror so that 3 million Jews in Israel can sleep the night.
We will be shipping ship back YOUR dictators back to you. You Westerners are pathetic. Your Jews are you gods, and your god is made out of paper called $.
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim surrreeeeee........... my leaders are definitely Jewish........ and i follow God not the American dollar which is not preforming well in this economy if i might add.
Boris30111 1 month ago
If you follow Jews, for rejected Christ, tried to kill him, cut off the head of John the Baptist, hunted down Christians like wild dogs chasing a savory meal, subverted and infiltrated your faith, it was none other Rabbi Sha'ul (Saul, Paul) who was well trained by a Pharisee Talmudic scholar Gamaliel, who changed the image and the words of the Muslim Messiah.
From a sword-wielding, strong-willed prophet who stormed the temple and called it "Den of Thieves" to a submissive lamb to be slaughtered
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim you sir are so deep in propaganda and thinking your muslim faith is soooo much better then anyone else's that there is no reason left in you..... what you speak of is rubbish, utter delusion and non-sense. You are no better then the nazi mentality of killing jews.... And because you religion calls for the death of God's creature (yes a jew is a person, just like you and I), I already know your god is false as my God loves all, even you.
Boris30111 1 month ago
Jesus said
{5:20} That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness]
of the scribes and Pharisees (Jews), ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
i.e. if you are not more righteous than the Jew, there is NO heaven for you
What did Christians do? Christians followed, imitated, and copied the Jews in every way to the point that the Jew has a better concept of God than you
ONLY Muslims' righteousness EXCEEDS the Jews', so heaven is for us per words of Jesus
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim how can we have possibly followed the jews...... the religion is entirely different..... AND i still hold to my belief that just on the premise of your god calling for hared for his own creature that that is a flawed god.... God loves all, and your Mohammed guy got it wrong..... he asked for God's help, and the Devil came to him.
BTW: you know your prostrations you do? ya... you got that from us :)
Boris30111 4 weeks ago
Jesus said: {23:13} But woe unto you, scribes, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves,] neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Now, Christians have their own Scribes class dictating salvation per obedience to the church & holy "fathers."
{7:8} For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men
Christians pride themselves in doctrinal traditions.
Jews subverted their scripture as Christians subverted gospel
JesusChristMuslim 4 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim There are many different Q'urans and it has already been shown there is not one Book. I have read some of the surrahs and find the teachings are not consistent. Muslims cannot prove that they know better what it means to be Christian. This can be scrutinized as brainwashing techniques to keep muslims from trusting any teachings outside their own. My challenge is that Muslims call on Jesus, since He is considered a prophet, and sincerely ask to know the Truth.
kathrynpaine9 4 weeks ago
"There are many different Q'urans"
Christians have translated their Bibles in 2000 different languages. Christians have 450 different VERSIONS in the English language since the seventh century
First Bible I picked up was the Recovery VERSION and it claimed to be CLOSER and BETTER translation, so does the King James, the RSV Bible, the Good News Bible
But NOT a single Bible gives the ORIGINAL text from which they are all translating
But the Quran's ORIGINAL text is THERE alongside translation
JesusChristMuslim 4 weeks ago
@JesusChristMuslim honestly....stop trolling.
hortulanus94 3 weeks ago 4
@hortulanus94 I've just blocked him. Sorry it took me so long. I don't log on here too often due to lack of time.
gocraleigh 1 week ago
Moses said:
Deuteronomy {6:4} Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:
Jesus repeats down to the letter 1300 years later:
{12:29} And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is,] Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Muhammad repeats 600 years later:
112:1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim Muhammad's words are worth as much as a German Rentenmark in the 1920s.... and if you are unfamiliar with history..... it was worth NOTHING. Such false prophets spin tales to get their way.
Boris30111 1 month ago
Let's not get nasty, as I can bring up the incest sex, incest children, nakedness, and countless shameful contradictions in your Bible.
It is sufficient for the Muslims that Quran has NO cases of incest therein. But in your Bible, at least 6 types of incest are lawful. Lot and his Daughters, Amram and Jochabed, Amnon and Thamar (brother seducing & raping his sister), Reuben and his mother, Judah and Thamar (father & daughter-in-law).
Or God having S-E-X with Sarah in her tent to beget Isaac.
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim Mohammed = married 5 year old girl................ you were saying sir?
Boris30111 1 month ago
It is sad that Christians, who capitalize their preaching on "loving your enemy" have been so incapable of loving one another, let alone their enemy!
For example, under the Apartheid, BOTH the oppressed and the oppressor were Christian. Whites had 1000 churches among them, while the Blacks had 3000. Despite overwhelming Blacks were Christians, and yet Whites kept them under the jackboot of oppression.
US outlawed mixed marriages up to 1967 (anti-miscegenation laws)
This is Christian "love"!
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim Finally, I find it truly ironic that you, as a Muslim, are talking about Apartheid. I mean really. The Church in Egypt has suffered 1400 years of Apartheid due to the Arab occupation, and the Church in Greece suffered 400 years of Turkish Apartheid.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
When Muslims ruled, both Christians and Jews were allowed to coexist peacefully under the protection of Islam
We accept Jesus, as the Messiah and of miraculous birth, and we believe in the Gospel of Jesus. We also believe in Moses and the Torah revealed to Moses
But when Christian Crusaders invaded Palestine & Andalusia, they killed Muslims (as YOU reject Muhammad) and killed Jews for rejecting Jesus
When Jews ruled Palestine, both Christians & Muslims expelled
ONLY Islam is inclusive of all
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim You are mixing together many things. The Orthodox empire was also the target of the Western Crusaders, who sacked Constantinople in 1204. The Orthodox were very tolerant of Muslims in their empire.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
No, the Orthodox committed atrocities against the Muslims.
In Serbia, genocide, rape, and the list goes. Your Orthodox Russian brethren killed Muslims in Chechnya and Central Asia.
And now your Orthodox Egyptian brethern want to kick start another religious war in Egypt to appease the killers of Christ, the Jews.
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim You are going all over the place with your arguments. I was referring to the Orthodox empire in the Middle Ages in my previous point. In regards to the Copts, they are the victims of Islamic fanaticism. Stop trying to make it out like they are the aggressors. The Serbian situation you are clearly unfamiliar with, as atrocities were committed by Muslims, too. It is impossible to talk to you, because you won't stick to one subject.
gocraleigh 1 month ago 2
@gocraleigh Don't forget what the Greeks did to the westerners 20 years prior to 1204.
How can you ignore cutting off a Cardinal's head and dragging his body through the streets?
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim
There is a german saying "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
Which means: Islam is not better.
What about the sectarian violence between Sunni muslims vs. Shia muslims vs. Ahmadiyya Muslims.
What about the threatment of shia muslims in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain
and so on By the way I had a look on your channel ."TV is Judeo-Christian filth" That applies as well for the internet, I suppose.
zaggy3110 1 month ago
This is how blind Christians are
The Jews see u as canon fodder. You are following a Pharisee (Paul, Acts 23:6 I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee), a proud Jew ({11:1} Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an ISRAELITE)
We believe in Jesus and the Gospel of Jesus, yet Christians and Zionist-led America are killing Muslims and having sons of Christians maimed and cleaved to appease the deniers of Christ, who boast they killed him, by killing believers-in-Christ Muslims
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
May Allah guide you to Islam from the filth of Christendom. Jesus has NOTHING to do with "Christianity."
Jesus did NOT pose for his portrait to be drawn by some Orthodox painter, and then a halo from one of the three gods came over his head to make the portrait all the more dramatic.
Did Jesus look like that? No, this is your imagination, what you want Jesus to be, NOT what he was.
{7:23} And then will I
profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim St. Peter Mavimenus (A.D. 743): "Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian religion will be damned, as was your false prophet Mohammed." (Roman Martyrology, February 21st) [Upon this profession of the faith, the infidel murdered him.]
Saint George of San Saba (died A.D. 852): "Mohammed was a disciple of the devil, and his followers are in a state of perdition." (In "Victories of the Martyrs" by Saint Alphonsus)
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
There is not a day that goes by and I do not thank Allah for being a Muslim.
You have taken up your Saints and Popes as deities with Allah, permitting what Allah has made forbidden and forbidding what Allah has permitted.
Jesus Christ damned the Jews for having Scribes, Pharisees, and clergy that monopolized and subverted commandments of Moses, and YOU the Christians now have your own class of Scribes and Pharisees overriding and toying with Commandments of Muslim Jesus.
JesusChristMuslim 1 month ago
@JesusChristMuslim Also, when I was in India, I saw many Muslims at the tomb of Nizamuddin Auliya offering prayers and laying flowers in front of it. Reminded me a lot of our practice with saints.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
God bless you! Greetings from Old Orthodox Romania!
CrazyAxelStyle 1 month ago
I am curious as to how your family took to you converting to so many different religions?
Stevesiekingsley 1 month ago
@Stevesiekingsley I didn't ever convert to another religion. I dabbled in New Age things but always attended Church. Lutheran, Catholic, and Orthodox are all Christian They didn't really have much to say about the New Age stuff since it was more of a teenage phase. Becoming Catholic provoked some discussion and opposition, but they respected my decision. To them, since I believe in Christ, that's good enough.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@Stevesiekingsley My final destination, Orthodoxy, was a slow, drawn out journey (over six years) and perhaps it was anti-climactic. There was almost no discussion about that. I think that Orthodoxy and Catholicism seem very close to each other to a Protestant.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh This is true, I found an orthodox mission station near my home and go frequently. I had stopped for a while( about a year or so) for various reasons one being the fact that my father hates anything that may in some way have something to do with the pope. He has never forced me to stop going, or told me not to, or even given me an ultimatum, but has made it very clear he is adverse to the idea and against any conversion as he finds it sacreligious.
Stevesiekingsley 1 month ago
why I AM GOING TO HELL FOR I BELIEVE IN MAN MADE PAGAN DOCTRINES
tHIS IS THE VIDEO SHOULD BE CALLED
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
@Andytheantiathiest I don't believe in any pagan doctrines. As we sang in Church on Christmas Eve: "When Augustus reigned alone upon earth, the many kingdoms of men came to end: and when Thou wast made man of the pure Virgin, the many gods of idolatry were destroyed. The cities of the world passed under one single rule; and the nations came to believe in one sovereign Godhead. The peoples were enrolled by the decree of Caesar; and we, the faithful...
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@Andytheantiathiest ...were enrolled in the Name of the Godhead, when Thou, our God, wast made man. Great is Thy mercy: glory to Thee."
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@Andytheantiathiest I confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior and that I could never save myself, but need Christ to be saved...so by your Protestant reasoning, I have said the sinner's prayer and believe it sincerely, so I am good to go. So you have nothing to worry about.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh Dont throw all protestants in with that "logic". Only odd evangelicals believe that nonsense. The believers prayer, I mean.
chico388 1 month ago
@chico388 I realize that there are various types of Protestants, and my Lutheran Church did not accept the believer's prayer theory. I was being facetious in my response to the guy who condemned me to hell for alleged paganism. Sorry if that was not clear.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@Andytheantiathiest Orthodoxy , the ounly holy chirch of Jisus Christ! ''Who believes and becomes baptized, will be saved, and who doesnt beleve will be sentenced''
rosa2222222222 1 month ago
yes I disagree the orthodoxs say their churches are the only true church because the catholicism says the same thing and both churches have more in common and less differences but I wish orthodoxs don't see the catholics as non-christians.
supernatural2029 1 month ago
@supernatural2029 I never said we don't view you as Christian (i.e. follower of Christ). There is, however, only one Church. It is irrelevant that both Churches claim the same thing; we need to go through history, study the issue, and identify which one better maintained the Apostolic teaching. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed being Roman Catholic and learned a lot there, but the Papacy is an innovation and not Apostolic. Papal infallibility is heresy, so I had to leave.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh just like the "Holy Trinity" was an innovation in 325, just like "The Mother of God" was in innovation in 431, just like the "Hypostatic Union" was an innovation in 451. God is with His Church until the consummation of the world, NOT 787. Ecumenical councils before the orthodox sect started called The Bishop of Rome the head of the Church, the orthodox disagree with the council fathers. The Papacy is hands down the easiest Catholic Dogma to prove.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier The are hardly the same, because there are clear references to Trinity, Theotokos, two natures of Christ, etc. before they were codified in council, which is in contrast to Papism which grasps at straws and quotes taken out of context, and even forgeries, to prove its claims, which were rammed through. And we have had ecumenical councils after 787, such as in 879, when Pope John VIII attended and anathematized the Filioque along with the other Orthodox bishops.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh that council was not ecumenical even a famous "orthodox" bishop says "orthodoxy" accepts ONLY the first 7, (so much for unity) The 4th ecumenical council of Constantinople declared Photius a heretic. The "orthodox" can't even put together one ecumenical council since the schism, it's also ironic how you say "anathematized" the Filioque considering THREE Greek Church Fathers said "And The Son" BTW do you even know what makes a council ecumenical?
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Which famous bishop is that? The Fourth "Ecumenical" Council of Constantinople in 869 was annulled by the Council of 879, when Pope John returned to communion with St Photios and anathamatized the filioque, even placing silver plates with the original Creed in his cathedral. That Council of 869 was only restored in the 1100s when the Papist reformers searched for ammunition against lay investiture and found a canon from that forgotten council which they found useful.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh these are nothing but anti-Catholic lies, 1."orthodoxy" ONLY accepts the first 7 E-Councils, 2. The 9th E-Council was the Lateran 3. you want me to take you seriously when saying Pope John placed silver plaques? it was actually Pope Leo III, Charlemagne wanted to add the Filioque(and he was right, because it would become a Catholic Dogma later) But Pope Leo III rejected Charlemagne's idea so as not to alienate the Byzantine Greeks.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Much of my knowledge on this topic comes from Fr Francis Dvornik's "The Photian Schism" and an article "Which Councils are Ecumenical?" (the latter article is online). Fr Dvornik was a Roman Catholic priest. The fact that you call the Roman people of Constantinople "Byzantine Greeks" demonstrates either ignorance or malice. If it's easier for you to just call this all "anti-Catholic lies" then go ahead, but you will continue to miss the truth.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh You can't read one book, i have read A LOT of material about church history, all you would have to do is see who was the Pope at the time.This is common knowledge, what were they? they surely were not Latin, only a handful were.
With all due respect, i can't take you seriously any more saying things like "Pope John" had the silver plaques made, and then blaming it on a book.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier C'mon. People make mistakes when writing online away from their sources ALL THE TIME. If that discredits me in your mind, so be it. And please don't say "with all due respect" because you obviously have no respect for me, given the way you have been posting here. So anyway, I can't read one book; ok. Question for you then: where did you get your Master's Degree in Theology? I might want to check that place out.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh "People make mistakes when writing online away..." yea, we are not discussing baseball, obviously this is something major, this proves you don't look at other Catholic positions, as if historians never get there info wrong. It's kind of hard to be real nice when you attack God's Church while not knowing anything regrading it's teaching. EVERYTHING The Catholic Church teaches is Biblical.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier How does making a factual error in a pope's name prove that I don't look at other Catholic positions? I know a lot more than you think I do about Papist teaching. Again, where did you get your Master's Degree in Theology?
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh sure you do, i suppose you also know church history better(sarcasm) Why does it matter to you? is this a cop out? you don't look at because you say lies about The Catholic Church(im being honest) Even though "orthodoxy" can be refuted in many many ways.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier The filioque, the use of unleavened bread, Immaculate Conception, celibate clergy, are all not Scripturally sound. It is a shame you have been so brainwashed.
trueorthodoxfaith 1 month ago
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@trueorthodoxfaith SMH, Here we go again.
St.John 15:26 But when the Paraclete cometh, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me. "Whom I will send" THIS PROVES THAT THE HOLY GHOST PROCEEDS FROM THE SON AS WELL AS THE FATHER, OTHERWISE HE COULD NOT BE SENT BY THE SON.
"The Holy Spirit also, when He proceeds from the Father and the Son.." St. Ambrose (A.D. 381)
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@trueorthodoxfaith Jesus used unleavened bread at the last supper Michael Cerularius,
"For it has never been allowed to discuss again what has once been decided by the Apostolic See"
Pope Boniface[regn A.D. 418-422],To Rufus Bishop of Thessalonica,Epistle 13(A.D. 422)
God is with His Church until the consummation of the world, NOT 787.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier If you were to really look at Scriptures, when leavened bread was used the term "bread" was stated. When unleavened bread was used it stated such. Jesus took "bread" in His hands and blessed it.
trueorthodoxfaith 1 month ago
@gocraleigh BTW NOT ONE Church Father denied the Filioque and I have many more quotes if your interested, also it's biblical, read St.John 15:26, Jesus said "Whom i will send" which proves The Holy Ghost proceeds from Him as well.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Are you assuming that I don't read the Bible and have never noticed that verse before?
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Which Three Greek Church Fathers said that, and what was the context? Yes, I "even" know what makes a council ecumenical. The first criterion of ecumenicity is that it is called by the Roman Emperor. After all, that is what "oikoumene" refers to-the Christian Roman Empire. Councils after the Empire are called Pan-Orthodox, and there have been several.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh "The Spirit is God, from the Father and the Son." St.Epiphanius, The Man Well-Anchored, 9 (A.D. 374).
"Who profanely think that they can slight the dignity of the Holy Spirit because He is named by the Divine lips after the Father and the Son." St.Gregory of Nyssa, Against Macedonians, 6 (A.D. 377).
"Our Lord teaches that the being of the Spirit is derived not from the Spirit Himself, but from the Father and the Son..." St.Didymus the Blind of Alexandria (A.D. 381)
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Thank you for the quotes. The second quote clearly does not teach filioqueism so that is a stretch. I will have a look at the other two when time permits.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Get is strait. And the Son, is not From the Son. Here we go with the anti-Orthodox nonsense. Here are other Orthodox Councils:
Synod of Jerusalem-1583
Council of Jerusalem-1672
Council of Constantinople-1755
Council of Constantinople-1772
Council of Constantinople-1923
What Ecumenical Councils has Rome had since the Schism? (Don't give me Vatican I &II, they did not include the entire church).
trueorthodoxfaith 1 month ago
@trueorthodoxfaith any council not with Rome IS NO council at all, it's no different then a protestant meeting, also robber councils like that of Ephesus in 449, or when over 100 eastern bishops approved of arianism in 341.
“Declared, when desired by the Emperor Anastasius to condemn the Council of Chalcedon, that such a step, without an ecumenical Synod presided over by the Pope, was impossible.” Macedonius, Patriarch of Constantinople (466-516 A.D.)
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@trueorthodoxfaith ecumenical councils since Nicea of 787. 4th council of Constantinople in 869-870. First Lateran Council 1123 A.D. Second Lateran Council - 1139 A.D. Third Lateran Council - 1179 A.D. Fourth Lateran Council : 1215 im going to stop here because you can careless.
you do realize some Greeks returned at the Council of Florence right? and acknowledge the supremacy of the Pope? Papal infallibility existed since St.Peter said who the Son of Man is and St.Luke 22:31-32=Official
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Those Scripture verses have nothing to do infallibility of Peter. How can Peter be infallible? That does not make any sense.
trueorthodoxfaith 1 month ago
@trueorthodoxfaith How can Peter be infallible? Because God gave him this gift. And When The Pope speaks on faith and morals and a doctrine that binds the ENTIRE Catholic Church, He speaks infallibly. Just like the same way God gave St.Peter the answer to whom the Son of Man is, no one knew, it had to be revealed. And regarding unleavened bread Rome always used it. "For it has never been allowed to discuss again what has once been decided by the Apostolic See" Pope Boniface A.D. 422
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier What about the other twelve Apostles, didn't they also receive the gift from God? The Latin Church did not always use unleavened bread. The West began using unleavened bread in the 8th & 9th centuries. It became a common practice after the schism, in the 11th century. So here again, the Latins deviated from the traditions of the early church.
trueorthodoxfaith 1 month ago
@trueorthodoxfaith again more lies, became a "common practice?" after the schism? Rome has been using it, Michael Cerularius just wanted something to start a schism over and split from Rome, he wrote to Pope Leo IX in 1053 so that makes you a liar.
"'But,' you [Jovinian] will say, 'it was on Peter that the Church was founded' [Matt. 16:18]. Well . . . one among the twelve is chosen to be their head in order to remove any occasion for division." St. Jerome, "Against Jovinian," c. 393 A.D.
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier
"Mussolini is the man God has sent us" - Pope Pius of Rome..you still cannot defend and justify this act of faith (which is suppose to be infallible) by Pope Pius of Rome! To say a racist killer like Mussolini was sent from God is blasphemous! You said you were not familiar with this history well get familiar with it quickly! The Catholic Church supported the invasion of Mussolini which burned down Churches and killed many innocent people thanks to the pope!
ethi0nz 1 month ago
@ethi0nz I'm beginning to think your mentally ill, "which is suppose to be infallible"
I think your confusing the word "infallibility" with "impeccability" "The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the Apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither the stain nor blemish nor anything like it"
Pope Damasus (A.D.382)
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Just look at the case of the sorry Pope Vigilius, who wanted really badly to be a heretic and accept the Three Chapters, who lied to the Emperor Saint Justinian the Great, and who was later exposed for his lies and vacilations by the Great Saint, who had to force him to sign an Orthodox confession--at which point the Metropolitan of Aquilia broke communion with the Pope--I guess he didn't believe in Papal Infallibility & Universal jurisdiction back then.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@gocraleigh 1. Papal Infallibility is not impeccability.2. if you don't know the requirements for Papal infallibility ask. 3. Do you even know what Emperor Justinian said? and do you agree? "Let your Apostleship show that you have worthily succeeded to the Apostle Peter, since the Lord will work through you, as Supreme Pastor, the salvation of all. (A.D. 520 Emperor Justinian to Pope Hormisdas).
PapalSoldier 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier 1. Of course. If you haven't noticed, Youtube comments are not exactly conducive to full discussion and misunderstandings are common. 2. I have access to the Papist primary sources. For the record, I don't like the tone you are taking in your comments. 3. The Acacian Schism and its resolution put that quote in its proper context. Also, how the Great saint later subdued the heretic Vigilius in order to protect the Church put it in context.
gocraleigh 1 month ago
@PapalSoldier Again, misleading quotes. "Supreme pastor "has nothing to do with infallibility. There are requirements for papal infallibility? How funny. This never existed in the early church. I urge you to research how the Franks altered the Latin church into a political center, and how the Ultramontanism movement influenced the Latin church and achieved victory with papal universal authority at Vatican I.
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