Wow..I'm just wondering what kind of life experience they had to make them this way. This is what I see on the campus where I work. They have high ideals, but only for segregated populations + issues, and it doesn't seem to carry over to anyone that doesn't agree with them. Save the Earth--but litter there's no tomorrow; tolerance for gays, communists and the like, but not for christians or conservatives. If our country goes down, I wonder who they'll blame then; + how they'll survive?
Wow..I'm just wondering what kind of life experience they had to make them this way. This is what I see on the campus where I work. They have high ideals, but only for segregated populations + issues, and it doesn't seem to carry over to anyone that doesn't agree with them. Save the Earth--but litter there's no tomorrow; tolerance for gays, communists and the like, but not for christians or conservatives. If our country goes down, I wonder who they'll blame then; + how they'll survive?
Wow, show me the one where the Tea Party verbally attacked and intimidated a reporter or someone recording them while waiting to break into a State building. These people believe they are outside the law and answerable to no one and that no one should be allowed to hold a different opinion or vote to curtail their ability to hold the taxpayers at ransom.
Imagine Tea-Party people forcibly breaking into a State House --it would lead ever network broadcast with anchors' eyes wide, played countless times.
They would be aghast with dark talk about Hate of Government, and an Atmosphere of Intolerance And Fear.
There would be psychologists, poets and authors flamboyantly lambasting the Loss of Civility. They would slice and dice it ad-infinitum --the entire country would have it coming out of their ears.
gahahaa, this assumes that the average tea party would be doing any storming of any capital. I was in dc during the tea party rallies. 2 in every 3 of the ralliers were either exceedingly overweight or obese and had to remain sitting for the entire rally. I wouldn't mind seeing these tea party folks pack themselves into a city hall to protest high taxes.
I love that middle America is getting to see on TV everyday what exactly the democratic party is.We do not support this and will vote accordingly in 20912!
@elilla331 yer right, I tune in to as much news as possible especially msnbc int he hopes that maybe they will one day show actual facts but alas it never happens .. look at Cenk uygur and his flop with the radical right hate groups , as soon as he saw "Black Seperatists" on the list he stopped quoting the facts... Tehse people are falling into the hands of the destroyers of this once great country and they don't even see it happening. This class war is just another distraction to divide us all.
The guy with the glasses in the beginning looks like he's straight out of a socialist country,the lady next to him has that typical libtard look, you know the deer in the headlights look, not a frickin' clue. Just a bunch of spoiled children because their getting weaned off the teat.
This is what freeloaders and moochers look like when their gravy train is threatened. Imagine these people storming into your home and taking all your crap, all your money, all your possessions, because they feel they're entitled to it. You own nothing. It's an ill-gotten gain. They have a RIGHT to your stuff and they feel completely justified in taking it.
While these leftist/socialist commies are ranting over supposed "workers rights" they seem to forget that they are not the sole bastions of actual rights such as this reporter's right to free speech, to peaceful assembly and on and on and on....
This clip is YET ANOTHER fine example of the lefts union thug mob rule tactics. What a bunch of ignorant pigs. Americans - 1, Communists - 0!
Again, there is no argument, no use of any information or facts or disucssion of the topic, just another useless rambling of no value. You don't even try to engage in any conversation other then innacurate pro-uninion propaganda lines. So, I am still waiting.
You lost, leftist scum. Now get over yourselves. You and your union thugs have fucked up this country enough. You have raped us all, and you installed a thief and criminal as President. Now we are all paying for your crimes.
But enough is enough. We are here to TAKE BACK AMERICA from leftist scum! Fight, folks! We have nothing to lose but our chains!
@RonaldEmmis - While I fully agree with your position Ron, I would suggest toning down the language as it detracts from your message and makes you look more like the ugly minority we are fighting against. We can't call them the thugs that they are and then engage in the same tactics that they use. With that said; Hurray for Wisconsin!!
The point is they lost. All that circus to no avail. Now only about a hundred congregate in the rotunda where once there were as many as 6,000. And they don't get to stay overnight.
Last of the buffalo.
I only wonder if this is going to be repeated on this scale in other state capitols or have they become discouraged?
Hmmm.... so pointing out the corruption and bad acts of some is now hating "good Americans". Its amazing that you don't have any solid facts or argument, so you simply directly attack everyone, and try to bully them into silence. You have made no real argument that unions are good, or refuted any of my points. So, is that all you have, "paranoia" and hating others? That's thin.
@kingduckford You silly person, I attempted to have a conversation with you, and when you failed to discuss but instead talked in talking points and accusations, I began to mirror your behavior. When you stereotyped and assailed, I too stereotyped and assailed. You see, the very tactics you disapprove of are your own.
Alas, self-reflection, I imagine, is not your strong suit. Go box shadows. You bore me.
The google censors are on this one. that's what the big O's meeting with the Google brothers and Facebook guy was about. I guess the lefts billionaires are good, the rights billionaires, BAD. This is sickening, horrible, MOB RULE.
Brining no argument, he simply came in spouting propaganda untill he ran out. Guess he had to "go to bed". Oh well, when you don't have something that works in real life, you can't fight an arguement.
Let's see, about 20% of the population actually beleives that false ideas of socialism, while the other 30% that support it don't care, but simply sell their votes to those willing to give them welfare, benefits, corruption, and cozy pulbic sector jobs that produce nothing but pay very well. So its justa very sick minority that believes the leftist lie, with a bunch of hired help to push it through.
@kingduckford Good night, sweet paranoid. Sleep carefully. We're coming to get you. We want your guns and your white daughter for some inner-city breeding programs to make all races equal. BOOOGITTY BOOOGITY BOO!!!
@1Doz Your reading comprehension is shockingly low. I was mocking his paranoia about his fellow countrymen, something he surely deserved. As for insults, he began insulting good Americans, calling them things they are not, and so he deserves only the respect he offers.
When someone has a fixed world view, they do not discuss ideas so much as defend stances, and it is too boring to continue with. Continue hating your fellow Americans. It's sad.
But the right is for building America, whereas the left only cares about its class war and socialist ideology. They don't care if they destroy the nation and bring about ruin, bring calmity and hardship, and bring famine and destitution to the nation, but only bring about their ideology.
I love that! A narc! Haha. I guess he thought that the guy with the camera might not be of like mind therefore they are not allowed to see what is going on. So only if you support their cause, you are okay, but if not then you're a narc! Very tolerant.
But is it not the conservative that teaches people to fish, and the liberals who simply give away fish? We wish for people to become self supporting and fruitful, while the left demands dependency.
Who pays the union worker? Is it not the consumers of the goods and services that purchase them? So when unions demand more money, they dont' take them from the rich, but from the average consumer. Thus, unions only create shortages, leverage them agains the consumer, and deprive them of services and goods, as well as driving up prices that hurt everyone. That is how the left and unions have gutted the nation.
The enforced tithe of the middle ages was a flat base tax to the church. Notice how it was a flat, equal rate of taxation? Not a progressive tax that sought to confiscate property and taxes unequally for redistribution? It has no correlation to communism.
Unions and the anti-business left are who make their living gutting the rest of the nation. They rely on taxes, and subsidies and monopolies to force people to support them, because they cannot support themselves through free trade. They demand more pay then they are every worth, therefore are unemployable. They only stay aflot through bailouts and subsidies monopolies that stomp out any honest man from trying to make a living. The left has no interest in labor or industry they don't control
No, as an ultra old schooler, I beleive in tariffs to equal out trade gaps in regional inflation. But this has nothing to do with regional inflation, or tariffs, and how with shipping and other considerations already defend domestic labor. Its about how union labor is so expensive, there is no way for it to compete against anyone, in fact, it can't compete without competition. Union labor is so high, nobody can pay it, and afford the goods and services they create.
@kingduckford Then why do we let the Chinese undercut American business so haphazardly?
The enemy is not each other. It is those who make their living gutting us, whether they are Chinese, Saudi, or simply those who make money domestically by cheating American industry with slave labor and Free Trade. I know the Right doesn't get this about the Left, but Americans deserve the ability to work for fair wages, those that feed and educate and house a family.
Last time I checked, nobody is forcing anyone to give money to the church. But the left does want laws in place that force workers to give money to unions.
Cheap Chinese labor is only used because union labor is cost prohibitive. No consumer can afford to buy union made goods, especially poor consumers. Unions have destroyed the industries, and forced Americans to import goods that cannot be made at home.
Who fights for using credit to redistribute wealth? Progressives. Who has built the massive system of borrowing money for homes, and engineered the current housing crisis? Progressives.
@kingduckford Who cut taxes on corps and also pushed for free trade? Can we stop pointing fingers and try to work together as Americans for a better future? Both parties suck, everyone knows that, and everyone likes one more than the other.
As for unions making America uncompetitive, do you think Americans should be paid Chinese wages? That's horrible, and that's the alternative.
Free trade without appropriate import taxes to make American goods competitive is the problem you are describing.
Again, there is no redistribution. Capitalists don't redistribute anything, people simply earn what they earn. Cutting taxes doesn't give anybody money, it just lets people keep their fairly earned money, and there is no redistribution about that. The only fair wage is one that is earned, not threatened or coerced, nor corruptly given by taxation and spending.
Live on to little? Spoiled children, the low class American doesn't know poverty. He lives in luxury.
@kingduckford The very nature of our Capitalist system, when it is unregulated by government taxation of unnecessary wealth hoarding, does function as wealth redistribution from the working class to the ownership class. A great example of this is how you likely live in a house owned by a bank but think you own it. Your mortgage isn't paying for that house. It's paying for the bank's profits and some fat cat's huge bonus. So, working class "wealth" only goes in one direction, bud.
Unbelievable. These people are blaming the right-wing media for their own disgusting leftist behavior, which we can see for ourselves on video after video coming out of Wisconsin.
We have empowered the takers to feel entitled. We must remind them that under capitalism, it is by contributing something of value to others that you are compensated - not by threatening, intimidating, and having public temper tantrums.
I don't know how credentials work, but I'm pretty sure you don't print your own at home and bring them with you. I think you get them from an official source.
The lefts ideal world: You work, give 90% of your paycheck to the government, the government gives you what they think you need (food, housing, vehicles), and you keep the 10% for personal spending. They honestly think that is a 'fair' world.
How does taxing the rich make the economy stronger, or promote business? The rich are the business owners and investors who make the economy work and build business, therefore taxing them reduces their capital and hurts both. And FDR was a pinko, and its the progressives moves towards unionizing workers that have destroyed American industry, and socialist programs of "wealth distrubution" that have spent the government into insolvency.
It is tax cuts and endless war that has us here. This isn't about left and right, D or R, this is about the 90% of us who live on too little because wealth consolidates up. Why are you so FOR wealth redistribution upwards but consider any effort to seek fair wages for ALL AMERICANS an unamerican idea?
Calling names is not the same as having ideas, and what we're doing, what we've been doing, isn't working.
OF COURSE it's about left versus right, D versus R. The left doesn't believe in property rights, but rather economic justice, and so wants to redistribute. The right disagrees, holding that individuals have a right to property. It's a basic matter of principle. I don't know why you don't get this.
@kingduckford Free Trade under Democrats and Republicans have gotten us here, not unions. Cheap Chinese manufacturing undermining what was once a solid American industrial base. Both parties are responsible for this and it sucks.
I'm going to bet you are as poor or "middle class" as me, so why do you pucker up to the wealthy so much?
Yes, how mean of those greedy capitalists to find a source of labor that's willing to do our filthy, repetitive work for us at a low cost, freeing our workers to do other things. True it creates a problem for us -- what are our workers supposed to do now? -- but it also creates an opportunity. We need to find new ways to employ people. I don't know how we're going to do that, but the answer isn't to give up and retreat into a depressed socialist funk.
I think that creature at 00:48 swallowed Michael Moore.
Are these people KGB members because they sure have an issue with personal freedom and free speech. “Who are you? Where do you work? What is your address? What are you political affiliations? Where are your PAPERS comrade? Off to the Gulag!
Silly lefties, wealth is not distributed, it is earned. Those that have a lot, have it because they have built and earned that wealth, and have already given the fruits of their labor in the forms of goods and services. Also note that most of net worth, and "wealth" is actually not money or goods, but assets in the forms of businesses that give people jobs and produce the goods and services all people enjoy. Marxism is cheap dime store fiction.
@kingduckford Nobody is suggesting Marxism. Simply tax the rich at rates that have worked historically in order to have a strong economy and promote business. Fairness in the amount of wealth given back by those who take out more from our national treasure is not necessarily Marxism. As a matter of fact, it's quite American if you know your history.
Sometimes I wonder if these demonstators belong to the same human race that I do, if they have any morals or consciences at all. They are really scary, especially since they don't seem to have a clue how violent and stupid they make themselves look and that they therefore make there whole group look just as bad.
Can you imagine if the Tea Party acted like this after Obamacare was rammed through? to the left, projection much? they're doing everything they accuse the right of doing yet we don't act like this. In the words of Obama "I (Republicans won) deal with it!
Is this loud mouth a drugy? Why is he afraid of running in to a narc? This is a great display of the elitist public employees at work. Go back to Chicago.
The guy recording you is a thug. They are all a bunch of thugs. This is chaos. Unbelievable. I see laws being broken. Criminals all a bunch of criminals.
The MacIver institute is another billionaire plutocrat front group attempting to destroy the working class. That's 90% of us, everyone, lower and middle class, all the same when so few people hold all the wealth.
@peculiarparrot only 13% of the US has bargaining rights. So are you saying that taking them away just from the public workers is going to kill the middle and lower class? sounds ridiculous to me
@jeremywkx Symptom of a disease, friend. This is just a brazen move in a series of small steps in the war on the lower classes. Loss of services in order to fuel rich corporations and rich folks' bank accounts is unfair. Wisconsin is unfair. What is happening in Florida, the laying off of teachers and police officers so that corporations can have more tax breaks, it is unfair, and people are tired of being poor.
One need only look at wealth distribution in this nation to see it is just unfair.
@peculiarparrot Life isn't fair. Someone should have taught you that lesson when you were much younger. We're not all equal. You're not entitled to another American's possessions (i.e., wealth) simply because you think that they shouldn't have more than you. By the way, I'm middle aged and broke. That's the hand I was dealt. But I'm not entitled to someone else's money just because I find myself in the unenviable position of being broke.
@nobodyshero0000 The wealth of a nation, our national treasure, that sum of all our commodities and resources and valuable stuff that is represented by dollars is an essentially finite resource. It can be traded and it can inflate or deflate in value, but you cannot make something from nothing. If one takes more of the national treasure (resources, etc.), one should contribute more. Why should the ownership class get to take in disproportion to their giving? Why can we not seek better?
@peculiarparrot This isn't about the wealth of a nation. During my many years of early rises, long days of toil, earning a living, there was no one beside me creating that wealth except me. Wealth redistribution, that is taking from one and giving to another like some kind of Robin Hood, not only hurts the person from whom the money was confiscated but also hurts the recipient because it stifles character and the need to stand on one's own feet. It is stealing and is utterly immoral. /.02
@nobodyshero0000 Then I guess church's are thieves in your world, eh? That tithe is highway robbery in service of a Christocommunist plot to steal your freedoms.
@peculiarparrot Lame effort. Tithing neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg (to paraphrase Jefferson). Taxes are mandatory. Tithing is voluntary. But then you knew that.
@nobodyshero0000 My point, which you missed entirely, is that pitching in for the greater good is a Christian value. Jesus taught us to love our fellow man, and you do not let on whom you love fall down. You teach them to fish and show them the sea.
@peculiarparrot That's right, you should, particularly if you're a Christian. However, as I said before, it is not a Christian value for me (or in this case, the "government") to involuntarily confiscate wealth from one man and give it to another.
@nobodyshero0000 Yes, that's it, I'm the bad person and you're the good person, and we can keep implying as such about each other over and over until we've spun ourselves sick.
You do not have reasonable thoughts on taxation. You are blinded by an idea.
Yeah, I replied to the wrong person. The other guy was saying that tithing is forced on you since the alternative is going to Hell. My point is that there's no forcing involved, since you're free to decide whether or not you believe in Hell.
@nobodyshero0000 Then I guess churches are thieves in your world, eh? That tithe is highway robbery in service of a Christocommunist plot to steal your freedoms.
@jeremywkx In Wisconsin only government workers, 4% of the working population (100,000 out of 2.7 employed people, out of 5.5 million people) will have the collective bargaining limited. The rest of us, 96% of Wisconsin workers are somehow able to be "middle class" all on our own. Pitiful 4% they are.
Children. Nothing but spoiled rotten children.
Stryder46 6 months ago
Failed attempts at recall elections! Scott Walker's team still controls the legislature!
rabidtarg 6 months ago
What a bunch of animals. Remember, liberals believe in free speech, only if they agree with you.
donsmithshow 8 months ago
What a fucking mob mentality.
megabrowser17 8 months ago
Liberals are the biggest threat to free speech that there is. Liberals are nothing more than Fascists.
teton99 8 months ago
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the protesters believe in freedom of speech?? How ironic..
MrSanjavierino 8 months ago
youre a narc man!! LMFAO
AntaresInScorpius 8 months ago
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Wow..I'm just wondering what kind of life experience they had to make them this way. This is what I see on the campus where I work. They have high ideals, but only for segregated populations + issues, and it doesn't seem to carry over to anyone that doesn't agree with them. Save the Earth--but litter there's no tomorrow; tolerance for gays, communists and the like, but not for christians or conservatives. If our country goes down, I wonder who they'll blame then; + how they'll survive?
invisible1336 10 months ago
Wow..I'm just wondering what kind of life experience they had to make them this way. This is what I see on the campus where I work. They have high ideals, but only for segregated populations + issues, and it doesn't seem to carry over to anyone that doesn't agree with them. Save the Earth--but litter there's no tomorrow; tolerance for gays, communists and the like, but not for christians or conservatives. If our country goes down, I wonder who they'll blame then; + how they'll survive?
invisible1336 10 months ago 2
It looks like democrats sent their aides to open the doors and let the goons flood in.
williejenkins666 11 months ago
What a douchebag.
williejenkins666 11 months ago
Bloods, Norteños, Crips, Sureno, Public Unions, Hamas, Iranian National Guard...all of them have one ting in common, their means.
doggy8kitty 11 months ago
Look at this animalistic mob. The teaparty OWNED you fucking liberal communist teachers union
calimar28 11 months ago
If I were in WI I would make it damn clear that I didn't want my children anywhere near these people. Fire them all.
domesticpuke 11 months ago
Show your papers! lol.. motherfuckers..
truefictions 11 months ago
Liberal Communist tools
DeathKorps94 11 months ago 2
YAh they clipped all those violent outbursts that didn;t happen right. Fucking liberal tools
DeathKorps94 11 months ago
Love the dude at the 2:20 mark,..EPIC FAIL!
modmlot 11 months ago
Ew.
squonk7747 11 months ago
Ew.
squonk7747 11 months ago
These low life people should be cuffed arrested and beat with a cane. Can;t stand these liberal aholes.
osmithk 11 months ago
Wow, show me the one where the Tea Party verbally attacked and intimidated a reporter or someone recording them while waiting to break into a State building. These people believe they are outside the law and answerable to no one and that no one should be allowed to hold a different opinion or vote to curtail their ability to hold the taxpayers at ransom.
ratpyan 11 months ago
Imagine Tea-Party people forcibly breaking into a State House --it would lead ever network broadcast with anchors' eyes wide, played countless times.
They would be aghast with dark talk about Hate of Government, and an Atmosphere of Intolerance And Fear.
There would be psychologists, poets and authors flamboyantly lambasting the Loss of Civility. They would slice and dice it ad-infinitum --the entire country would have it coming out of their ears.
blondecrazygaijin 11 months ago
@blondecrazygaijin
gahahaa, this assumes that the average tea party would be doing any storming of any capital. I was in dc during the tea party rallies. 2 in every 3 of the ralliers were either exceedingly overweight or obese and had to remain sitting for the entire rally. I wouldn't mind seeing these tea party folks pack themselves into a city hall to protest high taxes.
halalbackgirl 11 months ago
you call that a mob? just because you got called out on exactly what you were doing there and exactly who you are you feel threatened...
treyjunkie 11 months ago
you are not a reporter, you spread propaganda... and you're not even good at it.
treyjunkie 11 months ago
Looks like a bunch of college kids waiting for a concert hall to open its door so they can go see the latest indy band.
Plus the "adults" in that video look to be well-fed, so they could probably afford to take a tiny pay cut.
IndependentVoter71 11 months ago
I love that middle America is getting to see on TV everyday what exactly the democratic party is.We do not support this and will vote accordingly in 20912!
christinaohio 11 months ago
why isn't there one damn report about his on main stream media? WTF Where's Rachel Maddow on this ?
rancho68 11 months ago
@rancho68
Unless it's about global warming, glenn beck, rush, hannity, or the sensitivity of muslims. It's a non-issue for her.
elilla331 11 months ago
@elilla331 yer right, I tune in to as much news as possible especially msnbc int he hopes that maybe they will one day show actual facts but alas it never happens .. look at Cenk uygur and his flop with the radical right hate groups , as soon as he saw "Black Seperatists" on the list he stopped quoting the facts... Tehse people are falling into the hands of the destroyers of this once great country and they don't even see it happening. This class war is just another distraction to divide us all.
rancho68 11 months ago
My opinion of cheeseheads is irreparably ruined. What an ugly, ugly mob in all respects.
elenamarie35 11 months ago
@elenamarie35 Please, no. The vast, vast majority of us are not like that. Gawd, no.
squonk7747 11 months ago
So that's what a mob of zombie unionistas look like. Dumb and ugly.
elenamarie35 11 months ago 2
I wonder what would happen if the TEA PARTY stormed a Public building? Who are the violent, uneducated, anti-democratic goons now?! Anyone?
alfamax4562 11 months ago
This proves that "Liberalism" is a MENTAL DISORDER!
I say the mental disorder should be classified as: A failure to mature which is caused by too much dope and Professor brainwashing.
YouCanGetHealthier 11 months ago
This is what communism looks like!
yakyakyak69 11 months ago 2
The libtard stupidity never ceases to amaze me, they act like a bunch of monkeys in a zoo.
blakcanis 11 months ago 2
Nothing like breaking and entering to make socialists happy.
MrHenryDT 11 months ago 8
Well, they were right Bill, you're certainly not a reporter. You're a bit of a joke... and so is the maciver "Institute".
treyjunkie 11 months ago
The guy with the glasses in the beginning looks like he's straight out of a socialist country,the lady next to him has that typical libtard look, you know the deer in the headlights look, not a frickin' clue. Just a bunch of spoiled children because their getting weaned off the teat.
blakcanis 11 months ago 3
This is what freeloaders and moochers look like when their gravy train is threatened. Imagine these people storming into your home and taking all your crap, all your money, all your possessions, because they feel they're entitled to it. You own nothing. It's an ill-gotten gain. They have a RIGHT to your stuff and they feel completely justified in taking it.
That's progresso-Marxism. That's Obama. That's Hope.Change.YesWeCan.
TheShannon76 11 months ago 2
@TheShannon76 You sir are a retard
AFXE 11 months ago
Call in the National guard and start shooting these commie fucks
Hellpig 11 months ago
While these leftist/socialist commies are ranting over supposed "workers rights" they seem to forget that they are not the sole bastions of actual rights such as this reporter's right to free speech, to peaceful assembly and on and on and on....
This clip is YET ANOTHER fine example of the lefts union thug mob rule tactics. What a bunch of ignorant pigs. Americans - 1, Communists - 0!
BLProd1 11 months ago 3
" 'Cuz you're a narc man." lmao
OmniSurveyor 11 months ago
@OmniSurveyor No no you got it all wrong. It's "youre a narc maaaaaaaaaan!"
anangbhai 11 months ago 2
Again, there is no argument, no use of any information or facts or disucssion of the topic, just another useless rambling of no value. You don't even try to engage in any conversation other then innacurate pro-uninion propaganda lines. So, I am still waiting.
kingduckford 11 months ago
Damn fucking leftist scum. I am glad they lost.
You lost, leftist scum. Now get over yourselves. You and your union thugs have fucked up this country enough. You have raped us all, and you installed a thief and criminal as President. Now we are all paying for your crimes.
But enough is enough. We are here to TAKE BACK AMERICA from leftist scum! Fight, folks! We have nothing to lose but our chains!
RonaldEmmis 11 months ago 13
@RonaldEmmis - While I fully agree with your position Ron, I would suggest toning down the language as it detracts from your message and makes you look more like the ugly minority we are fighting against. We can't call them the thugs that they are and then engage in the same tactics that they use. With that said; Hurray for Wisconsin!!
BLProd1 11 months ago
@RonaldEmmis
The point is they lost. All that circus to no avail. Now only about a hundred congregate in the rotunda where once there were as many as 6,000. And they don't get to stay overnight.
Last of the buffalo.
I only wonder if this is going to be repeated on this scale in other state capitols or have they become discouraged?
pinz2022 8 months ago
Hmmm.... so pointing out the corruption and bad acts of some is now hating "good Americans". Its amazing that you don't have any solid facts or argument, so you simply directly attack everyone, and try to bully them into silence. You have made no real argument that unions are good, or refuted any of my points. So, is that all you have, "paranoia" and hating others? That's thin.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford You silly person, I attempted to have a conversation with you, and when you failed to discuss but instead talked in talking points and accusations, I began to mirror your behavior. When you stereotyped and assailed, I too stereotyped and assailed. You see, the very tactics you disapprove of are your own.
Alas, self-reflection, I imagine, is not your strong suit. Go box shadows. You bore me.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
The google censors are on this one. that's what the big O's meeting with the Google brothers and Facebook guy was about. I guess the lefts billionaires are good, the rights billionaires, BAD. This is sickening, horrible, MOB RULE.
btwall60 11 months ago
God Damned animals.
goingalt 11 months ago
Brining no argument, he simply came in spouting propaganda untill he ran out. Guess he had to "go to bed". Oh well, when you don't have something that works in real life, you can't fight an arguement.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford yep, when the insults start flying, you know he's run out of anything substantive to offer.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 You could jerk each others egos better if you stood in a circle.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
Let's see, about 20% of the population actually beleives that false ideas of socialism, while the other 30% that support it don't care, but simply sell their votes to those willing to give them welfare, benefits, corruption, and cozy pulbic sector jobs that produce nothing but pay very well. So its justa very sick minority that believes the leftist lie, with a bunch of hired help to push it through.
kingduckford 11 months ago 2
@kingduckford Good night, sweet paranoid. Sleep carefully. We're coming to get you. We want your guns and your white daughter for some inner-city breeding programs to make all races equal. BOOOGITTY BOOOGITY BOO!!!
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot
Ah yes, there it is folks! The inevitable racism charge from out of the blue. That's the signal that the liberal has lost the argument.
1Doz 11 months ago 2
@1Doz Your reading comprehension is shockingly low. I was mocking his paranoia about his fellow countrymen, something he surely deserved. As for insults, he began insulting good Americans, calling them things they are not, and so he deserves only the respect he offers.
When someone has a fixed world view, they do not discuss ideas so much as defend stances, and it is too boring to continue with. Continue hating your fellow Americans. It's sad.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot
Fixed world view? The left has been pushing the same ideas for over a century. As with other religions, the left's thinking is pretty fixed.
1Doz 11 months ago
But the right is for building America, whereas the left only cares about its class war and socialist ideology. They don't care if they destroy the nation and bring about ruin, bring calmity and hardship, and bring famine and destitution to the nation, but only bring about their ideology.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford Yes, half of America is evil. They plot to get you every day. There, I admitted it. Does that feel better, little child?
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
I love that! A narc! Haha. I guess he thought that the guy with the camera might not be of like mind therefore they are not allowed to see what is going on. So only if you support their cause, you are okay, but if not then you're a narc! Very tolerant.
lmh2png 11 months ago 4
But is it not the conservative that teaches people to fish, and the liberals who simply give away fish? We wish for people to become self supporting and fruitful, while the left demands dependency.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford It's not about right and left, you fool. It's about Americans.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
Who pays the union worker? Is it not the consumers of the goods and services that purchase them? So when unions demand more money, they dont' take them from the rich, but from the average consumer. Thus, unions only create shortages, leverage them agains the consumer, and deprive them of services and goods, as well as driving up prices that hurt everyone. That is how the left and unions have gutted the nation.
kingduckford 11 months ago 3
The enforced tithe of the middle ages was a flat base tax to the church. Notice how it was a flat, equal rate of taxation? Not a progressive tax that sought to confiscate property and taxes unequally for redistribution? It has no correlation to communism.
kingduckford 11 months ago
Unions and the anti-business left are who make their living gutting the rest of the nation. They rely on taxes, and subsidies and monopolies to force people to support them, because they cannot support themselves through free trade. They demand more pay then they are every worth, therefore are unemployable. They only stay aflot through bailouts and subsidies monopolies that stomp out any honest man from trying to make a living. The left has no interest in labor or industry they don't control
kingduckford 11 months ago 2
@kingduckford You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. At least anyone who does will see that.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
If this is what democracy looks like, we are in trouble. Looked a bit scary, tearing past policemen.
lmh2png 11 months ago
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lmh2png 11 months ago
No, as an ultra old schooler, I beleive in tariffs to equal out trade gaps in regional inflation. But this has nothing to do with regional inflation, or tariffs, and how with shipping and other considerations already defend domestic labor. Its about how union labor is so expensive, there is no way for it to compete against anyone, in fact, it can't compete without competition. Union labor is so high, nobody can pay it, and afford the goods and services they create.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford Then why do we let the Chinese undercut American business so haphazardly?
The enemy is not each other. It is those who make their living gutting us, whether they are Chinese, Saudi, or simply those who make money domestically by cheating American industry with slave labor and Free Trade. I know the Right doesn't get this about the Left, but Americans deserve the ability to work for fair wages, those that feed and educate and house a family.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot
Last time I checked, nobody is forcing anyone to give money to the church. But the left does want laws in place that force workers to give money to unions.
1Doz 11 months ago
Cheap Chinese labor is only used because union labor is cost prohibitive. No consumer can afford to buy union made goods, especially poor consumers. Unions have destroyed the industries, and forced Americans to import goods that cannot be made at home.
Who fights for using credit to redistribute wealth? Progressives. Who has built the massive system of borrowing money for homes, and engineered the current housing crisis? Progressives.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford Who cut taxes on corps and also pushed for free trade? Can we stop pointing fingers and try to work together as Americans for a better future? Both parties suck, everyone knows that, and everyone likes one more than the other.
As for unions making America uncompetitive, do you think Americans should be paid Chinese wages? That's horrible, and that's the alternative.
Free trade without appropriate import taxes to make American goods competitive is the problem you are describing.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
I nominate the guy @ 2:21 for liberal dork of the day.
1Doz 11 months ago
Again, there is no redistribution. Capitalists don't redistribute anything, people simply earn what they earn. Cutting taxes doesn't give anybody money, it just lets people keep their fairly earned money, and there is no redistribution about that. The only fair wage is one that is earned, not threatened or coerced, nor corruptly given by taxation and spending.
Live on to little? Spoiled children, the low class American doesn't know poverty. He lives in luxury.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford The very nature of our Capitalist system, when it is unregulated by government taxation of unnecessary wealth hoarding, does function as wealth redistribution from the working class to the ownership class. A great example of this is how you likely live in a house owned by a bank but think you own it. Your mortgage isn't paying for that house. It's paying for the bank's profits and some fat cat's huge bonus. So, working class "wealth" only goes in one direction, bud.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
Unbelievable. These people are blaming the right-wing media for their own disgusting leftist behavior, which we can see for ourselves on video after video coming out of Wisconsin.
We have empowered the takers to feel entitled. We must remind them that under capitalism, it is by contributing something of value to others that you are compensated - not by threatening, intimidating, and having public temper tantrums.
caraclaudel 11 months ago
@caraclaudel very well said.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
I don't know how credentials work, but I'm pretty sure you don't print your own at home and bring them with you. I think you get them from an official source.
MrKnightskye 11 months ago
The lefts ideal world: You work, give 90% of your paycheck to the government, the government gives you what they think you need (food, housing, vehicles), and you keep the 10% for personal spending. They honestly think that is a 'fair' world.
Metool2 11 months ago 2
@Metool2 You are wrong. Most Americans ideal is a fare wage for a fare day's work.
Do you really think CEOs work that much harder than anyone else?
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
How does taxing the rich make the economy stronger, or promote business? The rich are the business owners and investors who make the economy work and build business, therefore taxing them reduces their capital and hurts both. And FDR was a pinko, and its the progressives moves towards unionizing workers that have destroyed American industry, and socialist programs of "wealth distrubution" that have spent the government into insolvency.
kingduckford 11 months ago
@kingduckford "Pinko"??? What are you, 70?
It is tax cuts and endless war that has us here. This isn't about left and right, D or R, this is about the 90% of us who live on too little because wealth consolidates up. Why are you so FOR wealth redistribution upwards but consider any effort to seek fair wages for ALL AMERICANS an unamerican idea?
Calling names is not the same as having ideas, and what we're doing, what we've been doing, isn't working.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot
OF COURSE it's about left versus right, D versus R. The left doesn't believe in property rights, but rather economic justice, and so wants to redistribute. The right disagrees, holding that individuals have a right to property. It's a basic matter of principle. I don't know why you don't get this.
1Doz 11 months ago
@kingduckford Free Trade under Democrats and Republicans have gotten us here, not unions. Cheap Chinese manufacturing undermining what was once a solid American industrial base. Both parties are responsible for this and it sucks.
I'm going to bet you are as poor or "middle class" as me, so why do you pucker up to the wealthy so much?
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot
Yes, how mean of those greedy capitalists to find a source of labor that's willing to do our filthy, repetitive work for us at a low cost, freeing our workers to do other things. True it creates a problem for us -- what are our workers supposed to do now? -- but it also creates an opportunity. We need to find new ways to employ people. I don't know how we're going to do that, but the answer isn't to give up and retreat into a depressed socialist funk.
1Doz 11 months ago
I think that creature at 00:48 swallowed Michael Moore.
Are these people KGB members because they sure have an issue with personal freedom and free speech. “Who are you? Where do you work? What is your address? What are you political affiliations? Where are your PAPERS comrade? Off to the Gulag!
espada9 11 months ago
Silly lefties, wealth is not distributed, it is earned. Those that have a lot, have it because they have built and earned that wealth, and have already given the fruits of their labor in the forms of goods and services. Also note that most of net worth, and "wealth" is actually not money or goods, but assets in the forms of businesses that give people jobs and produce the goods and services all people enjoy. Marxism is cheap dime store fiction.
kingduckford 11 months ago 4
@kingduckford Nobody is suggesting Marxism. Simply tax the rich at rates that have worked historically in order to have a strong economy and promote business. Fairness in the amount of wealth given back by those who take out more from our national treasure is not necessarily Marxism. As a matter of fact, it's quite American if you know your history.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
No Violence. No mobs. No 8ate. Stop the hate Liberals.
RightCoastJul 11 months ago
Sometimes I wonder if these demonstators belong to the same human race that I do, if they have any morals or consciences at all. They are really scary, especially since they don't seem to have a clue how violent and stupid they make themselves look and that they therefore make there whole group look just as bad.
xxxxxxxpimptaddyone 11 months ago 4
Can you imagine if the Tea Party acted like this after Obamacare was rammed through? to the left, projection much? they're doing everything they accuse the right of doing yet we don't act like this. In the words of Obama "I (Republicans won) deal with it!
Repbel1 11 months ago 18
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3434valerie 11 months ago
This is a great day for freedom loving Americans!!
All the Patriots should salute Gov. Walker and the courageous men who passed this bill!!!
America will prevail over the communist corrupted antiamerican Union thugs!!!
xxxxxxxpimptaddyone 11 months ago 3
Wow, the liberal astroturf took no time to be laid on this video.
kingduckford 11 months ago
Is this loud mouth a drugy? Why is he afraid of running in to a narc? This is a great display of the elitist public employees at work. Go back to Chicago.
Grampsmopar 11 months ago 2
The guy recording you is a thug. They are all a bunch of thugs. This is chaos. Unbelievable. I see laws being broken. Criminals all a bunch of criminals.
AllDaCraze 11 months ago
The MacIver institute is another billionaire plutocrat front group attempting to destroy the working class. That's 90% of us, everyone, lower and middle class, all the same when so few people hold all the wealth.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot only 13% of the US has bargaining rights. So are you saying that taking them away just from the public workers is going to kill the middle and lower class? sounds ridiculous to me
jeremywkx 11 months ago 12
@jeremywkx Symptom of a disease, friend. This is just a brazen move in a series of small steps in the war on the lower classes. Loss of services in order to fuel rich corporations and rich folks' bank accounts is unfair. Wisconsin is unfair. What is happening in Florida, the laying off of teachers and police officers so that corporations can have more tax breaks, it is unfair, and people are tired of being poor.
One need only look at wealth distribution in this nation to see it is just unfair.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot Life isn't fair. Someone should have taught you that lesson when you were much younger. We're not all equal. You're not entitled to another American's possessions (i.e., wealth) simply because you think that they shouldn't have more than you. By the way, I'm middle aged and broke. That's the hand I was dealt. But I'm not entitled to someone else's money just because I find myself in the unenviable position of being broke.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 The wealth of a nation, our national treasure, that sum of all our commodities and resources and valuable stuff that is represented by dollars is an essentially finite resource. It can be traded and it can inflate or deflate in value, but you cannot make something from nothing. If one takes more of the national treasure (resources, etc.), one should contribute more. Why should the ownership class get to take in disproportion to their giving? Why can we not seek better?
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot This isn't about the wealth of a nation. During my many years of early rises, long days of toil, earning a living, there was no one beside me creating that wealth except me. Wealth redistribution, that is taking from one and giving to another like some kind of Robin Hood, not only hurts the person from whom the money was confiscated but also hurts the recipient because it stifles character and the need to stand on one's own feet. It is stealing and is utterly immoral. /.02
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
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peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 Then I guess church's are thieves in your world, eh? That tithe is highway robbery in service of a Christocommunist plot to steal your freedoms.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot Lame effort. Tithing neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg (to paraphrase Jefferson). Taxes are mandatory. Tithing is voluntary. But then you knew that.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 They aren't voluntary if the alternative is Hell.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot You truly are misinformed if you think tithing will keep you out of Hell.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 My point, which you missed entirely, is that pitching in for the greater good is a Christian value. Jesus taught us to love our fellow man, and you do not let on whom you love fall down. You teach them to fish and show them the sea.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot That's right, you should, particularly if you're a Christian. However, as I said before, it is not a Christian value for me (or in this case, the "government") to involuntarily confiscate wealth from one man and give it to another.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 I was questioning your values, not the governments. Nice deflection.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot I've deflected nothing. You support stealing while I do not. Pretty straight forward.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 Yes, that's it, I'm the bad person and you're the good person, and we can keep implying as such about each other over and over until we've spun ourselves sick.
You do not have reasonable thoughts on taxation. You are blinded by an idea.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@peculiarparrot Yes, you're the bad person and I'm the good person. Glad we agree. Have a nice night.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000 I would call you infantile, but I do not want to insult infants.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
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@nobodyshero0000 I was questioning your values, not the government's. Nice deflection.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000
But no one is forced to believe in Hell. It's your choice whether to believe that.
1Doz 11 months ago
@1Doz Agreed. But I'm not arguing for or against the existence of Hell here. Simply that tithing is voluntary and taxation is not.
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
@nobodyshero0000
Yeah, I replied to the wrong person. The other guy was saying that tithing is forced on you since the alternative is going to Hell. My point is that there's no forcing involved, since you're free to decide whether or not you believe in Hell.
1Doz 11 months ago
@1Doz That makes sense. No prob. ; )
nobodyshero0000 11 months ago
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@nobodyshero0000 Then I guess churches are thieves in your world, eh? That tithe is highway robbery in service of a Christocommunist plot to steal your freedoms.
peculiarparrot 11 months ago
@jeremywkx In Wisconsin only government workers, 4% of the working population (100,000 out of 2.7 employed people, out of 5.5 million people) will have the collective bargaining limited. The rest of us, 96% of Wisconsin workers are somehow able to be "middle class" all on our own. Pitiful 4% they are.
lmh2png 11 months ago
@lmh2png That's what I was saying. I find what the union is saying as ridiculous
jeremywkx 11 months ago
What a bunch of hippie retreads.
xND4SPDx 11 months ago 3