Avatar, yes but Terminator-bullshit, except for truck scene, which was inspired by Road Warrior, Cameron based Terminator concept on his dream. concept he brilliantly utilized on shoestring budget and by casting then unknown Arnold as frankenstein monster from future.
if copying is so easy,y dont u copy others' films and make a film and become a millionaire,instead of jealous ranting in youtube.everybody gets inspiration frm somewhere for their stories.
@joemulvihill1 You have zero perspective and grasp of logic, and you win nothing. If you're trying to convice yourself you did win, on an internet argument which ultimately amounts to nothing, then you're an insecure, butthurt imbecile.
heard you talk bout this on Radio Drome and ive always new this movie was a rip off but i heard about this film and yeah it really puts everything into perspective great job man i do think Tarentino is a bit of a theiving basterd he still makes entertaining movies
@joemulvihill1 OMG I've never heard that before! I also never knew that it wasn't Picasso that said that (though it's often attributed to him). Lame comeback, dude.
dumbest shit ever to say Tarantino is just a "rip off" because he likes to use his influences in his films. People just like to say that because they think they are "in the know" because they can name the movies he was influenced by. There is so many great things about Reservoir Dogs that make it spectacular other than the plot!
Say's it all really, I don't think Tarantino intentionally ripped off this film, he has most probably seen it and it has had some kind of major influence on his work subconsciously. There is no way he would copy this film in such a blatant fashion and not expect to get caught out.
Regardless of whether he did or not, I still enjoy his work and his style.
Note, he also drew inspiration from S. Suzuki's "Tokyo Drifter" with his use of colour to represent characters.
people rip things off others all the time, the main point of why people don't like tarantino is that he didn't give credit to the things that he ripped off of
Who do YOU think you're fooling? You cut some of the scenes from City on Fire so that they would fit those from Reservoir Dogs.
I mean, I agree that tarantino obviously took (if want "stole") some elements from this movie, but they are definately two completely different movies. City on Fire ain't even about that bank heist, it doesn't turn up until like the last 30 or 20 minutes of the film.
So wait, Tarantino's whole spin on the genre was that it was a heist film without the heist. It reversed the narrative to show the aftermath of the heist, then the build up, and then back to the aftermath. Otherwise it was a definitive genre film and displayed all the tropes entailed. All this video does is impose dialogue over a heist scene (not included in RD), a car crash (every action film ever), a dual gun moment (every action film ever) and an uncomplicated police mole plot. The point?
@vicepresidentfru1tly dude i like the film very much, but Tarantino is quoted in a interview saying one of his favourite films is "city on fire". he later states that he has a poster of "city on fire" framed in his house.
@vicepresidentfru1tly the point is that tarintino is a video store nerd who put together some unorigonal movies from the stuff he saw while waiting on the female customers he didn't have a chance with until he became a hollywood millionaire.
They're not that simular, sure he probably take some influence from it but its not an extroadinarily complicated plot line, just a very good one. Also i see it as taking some influence on to make something just as good or better. So i dont really care Tarantino did this cos Rerservoir dogs is a great film, and people do it in music and we dont complain, thats how music and art works really doesnt it. Bob Dylan was influenced by woody guthrie, etc, all films are influenced by other films
Hey you totally stole that title from a formerly influential French film magazine. I'm making a video about it.
I haven't read the comments so don't know if someone else has made this probable point but: every movie maker steals from every other movie maker. Even the ones in the beginning stole from previous art forms. Although your video here is well put together, it ultimately isn't scandalous or revealing- just shedding light on how QT works.
meh, his movies suck big fat cock anyway, theres only so many times you can make a movie without a plot and in random order without people wanting more, hell Guy Ritchie is the same, all his fucking movies are out of order and involve guys suddenly acquiring guns/drugs/something of value, and fighting each other till only 1 or 2 survive, but yeah tarantino sucks dick.
It's an objective fact that Reservoir Dogs is an americanized City on Fire. But it's a subjective opinion that Reservoir Dogs is a bad movie because of it. Just thought that needed to be said since so many of you are mixing the two up.
Tarantino may take aspects from several lesser known films and put them in his own, however, no one can deny that his films are bad. Some are fantastically entertaining, whilst some are powerful and shocking.
'Reservoir Dogs' is one of my fave films (alongside 'Its a Wonderful Life') and whilst it may rip off from 'City On Fire', 'Reservoir Dogs' is a better film.
If anything, QT should be praised for raising awareness in the west of these lesser known, high quality films he pays homage to.
@JOSKE123100 And how did he raise awareness when he would even slap his name on Zhang Yimou's Hero to make people think he had something to do with it?
What I find spooky is even Danny and Mr White has similar personality too- the alpha male big brother military type, the looks in their eye so alike.
Chow and Tim Roth are so similar in their carefree attitude and charisma
It is no surprise that Tim Roth and Mr. White might be given by Quentin with this movie to study too
Quentin made it a cult classic, because he can make it into Independent film heat. The HK director didn't make it as big, because it was a film for making money and no art
Yes Tarantino has to reveal his source. WTF is wrong with everyone he`s stealing. He should say i watched City on fire and I made RD. I watched Ladysnowblood and made Killbill.
I can still enjoy Reservoir Dogs because he basically took 5-10 minutes and stretched it into 90. Even if it's derived from something else, it's still its own work.
Yeah, I never got that whole 'Scripted by Stephen Gaghan' 2001 Oscar win for the American film "Traffic," which was basically a rewrite of the original 1989 British miniseries Traffick, in which much of the script was copied word for word. Some rewrite! All that dude rewrote was his name as the author. Yet the script won an Oscar. Who knew there was an Oscar for xeroxing...
Wow. I saw City on FIre years ago but I never realised just how much Tarantino took from it. You'd think he would've mentioned it in the credits of RD's somewhere. Oh well, Tarantino still makes awesome films and cinema is better off for his existence
"i steal from every single movie ever made,i love it-if my work has anything it's that i'm taking this from this & that & mixing them together.if people don't like that,then tough titty,don't go & see it right?i steal from everything.great artists steal,they don't do homages." Quentin Tarantino,Empire Magazine,Nov. 1994
I liked his movies alot when i was 15 but they got old real fast. And fuck the cunts that use the word homage in regards to the Unwarranted Self-Important cock sucker. This is a fuckin remake not an homage, in the begining he didnt even admit he stole the idea.
Most of those claims like what Lionsgate is doing are just to leech off your video, I have a few dubs of my own of Speed Racer and they're claming content on them!
He's just known as the Homage King, you know? Like, i don't think he ever thought he would become a film maker but he was obsessed with films himself and he made honourable references to the classics.
Tarantino's "homages" are very clear and he admits them. I wonder why he has such a problem about CoF?
Remakes occur all the time. Woo remade Melville's Le Samourai as The Killer. Scorcese remade Lau's/Mak's Infernal Affairs as The Departed and these are all openly done. For these 2, the originals are as good as the remakes. Even though RD is better than CoF, why not credit it?
Sorry but this is pretty pointless. I read an interview once where Tarantino said that what he "does is similar to what rappers do."
He can't come up with plots, so he mixes things from other movies and gives you something new.
What you showcased as proof of plagiarism doesn't work. He's obviously doing more than stealing footage and putting his name in the credits. He is shooting an ORIGINAL FILM, and by original I mean sweat and blood is going into work on a new film.
thank you for this. Also there is a cowboy bebop episode where he has the exact same outfit on ( from the jacket to the boots) that looks just like Ko chows outfit when he is running down the street in this movie. Although i believe they gave credit to city on fire.
Gasp! Guys in crime movies formulate plans for ROBBING jewelery stores, that involves TEAMING UP, AND USING A GET AWAY CAR.
You're so RIGHT. This Japanese guy was the FIRST criminal mastermind to orchestrate this kind of setup and then make a movie about it!!
My point: You've just showed me that he obviously took the premise and a few other things, but it's not hardly "word for word" like everyone said. It's kinda ironic that your video just proved your "point" completely wrong.
@Cornwiggle He's not Japanese, and it's a lot more than that. But then most QT fans like QT precisely because his movies are Cliffnotes remakes of work they don't have to or want to see.
@Cornwiggle i didn't plan on commenting, but after reading your bullshit of a comment i felt obligated to tell you you're a fuckin' moron. good day sir.
The video is very right, Tarantino took a lot of pieces from other movies, along with his own creativity, and made a successful film. But so what? This kind of thing has been in Hollywood for decades. Wes Craven's Last House on the Left is a basic retelling of Ingmar Bergman's The Virgin Spring, but I don't see people saying Craven is a horrible director because of it. Both Craven AND Tarantino admit that their films are heavily influenced by other directors, so really, the video is pointless.
@Zerudah Why does QT need to admit to this like its a crime of some sort? Last time I checked, IP was a pile of bull shit. There's nothing original anymore in Hollywood, deal with it. The people that constantly bitch about QT are as worse as his rabid fans who kiss his ass on the imdb boards all day. Plus, COF was crap; If Tarantino stole anything, he stole a turd and found a diamond inside.
personally i'd be pissed off if i had directed a movie with my original ideas and it recieved no recognition then some first time director from america comes in and takes ideas from a seemingly unknown film and then is called one of the greatest directors ever.
I'd be pissed off, and disappointed in myself if I was the director of CoF. QT is recognized as one of the best directors because....he's one of the best directors! He took the basic story and created something that was far better than the original. I think QT should have gave more credit to the original, but I still love his movies.
I love Quentin Tarantino. QT flicks make me jizz in my pants.
But guys, get over it. Who cares? If you read ED's Quentin Tarantino page and don't laugh once, then you may at that moment realise... you are experiencing intense butt hurt that won't go away until you unclench.
hmm. after reading Encyclopedia Dramatica and The Anti-Tarantino Page i expected so much more than that.
in fact i did not see anything new here. i think every single Tarantino-related discussion anywhere on the web in the last 10 to 15 years ends up with "he stole that from here or there" vs "he pays homage and professes love"...
thus, in this sense, it is just another tick. yeah, we already know he is a cinematic master thief. moving on, let's see what he'll come up with next...
All artists are inspired from those before and around them, they are humans and see and do similar things everyone else does as we are only limited by what we have on Earth. Therefore one should at least acknowledge their inspiration out of respect of those that helped spark interest.
The only original work of art is the Universe, everything else came from it.
i really think people should start to learn to accept the artform that is called sampling. many beautiful collages have been made, many genres of music have spawned classic songs using samples and quentin tarantino is the face of a new generation of film directors that actually LOVES cinema and should never ever be called thieves. just like many sampling hiphop-producers usually possess way more knowledge of jazz, soul and funk than the people who are arrogant enough to judge them!
@kimwayan There's a difference between "sampling" something and using it as inspiration and just copying a source. Tarantino actually said he'd never seen "City on Fire". That's called stealing; when you take from a source and don't cite it.
And on top of that, why don't you read up on The French New Wave and tell me Tarantino is part of a new generation of film loving filmmakers. Directors have loved filmmaking for 50 years; they just had enough respect for their peers not to steal from them.
evidence is circumstantial at best, i think this is a well edited video thats for sure. but a film is more than its plot, characters, dialog and shit composition. in other words, its not the story that counts, its how you tell the story. Reservoir Dogs has a pretty generic story, its about a heist that goes bad, pretty simple. but the way the dialog flows and the way the film is shot, and presented, are the work of a true master filmmaker.
ITT every uneducated, unaware 13-year-old boy who thinks that Tarantino is an innovative and talented director. Oooh that's a lot of bitter Tarantino fanbois!!
@Volcanic9 Do you say Picasso is a great artist or do you say it because everyone else says it? And, would everyone else have said it if they were more familiar with the African art? Personally, I think Pablo Picasso was an a**hole.
@impossiblefunky That's sort of weird. But the point is that there's more plagiarism that most people realize, and Picasso is just an example. "If this happened" doesn't really matter. Most people would agree he changed the world of modern art, regardless of opinion; yet he stole just as much as Quentin Tarantino did.
@impossiblefunky I think there's a differance between being influenced by a style and doing art in the same vain and out and out copying something. Like his work or not, Picasso created original paintings in a familiar style, Tarantino copied an existing film. Big differance.
See, I love Edgar Allen Poe. I feel so much inspiration, I'm going to write my own poetry. First one will be "The Hole and the Pendulum." Much different from the Pit and the Pendulum. Next will be, "The Crow." It's not plagiarism, it's inspiration.
@Orutra621 You're right. Imagine you were to take Poe and Stoker and combine them together, people might say that it's genius. It's not.
True art should not be inspired by superficial media, it should derive from the musings of a truly innovative and uninhibited psyche. Fuck Tarantino, he's an ex-film store employee who probably spent his adolescence watching films and masturbating in his own faeces. He knows fuck-all about the real world.
So what if the plot was based off of City on Fire. It still had many memorable moments not in the Lam film and as a whole, was better. The Departed won Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay and was the film Internal Affairs set in Boston instead of China. Why isn't everyone worked over about that? Well, probably because they openly said it was based off of the Chinese film. There's a fine line between homage and plagiarism Quintin and you've passed it
yea, tarantino ripped off the story line, that's no big secret for anyone who watched city on fire before reservoir dogs.. the thing is though, city on fire was an ok film.. reservoir dogs was more than ok.. it was great.. like burroughs once said- bad writers borrow, good writers steal.. mr tarantino, you're one good thief.. thanks for reservoir dogs, it certainly was an upgrade on the original..
Addressing some of the arguments in this comment section:
There's no way I can think of to justify Tarantino plagiarism of this part.
That valid criticism is one thing. But hurling ad hominem insults at his entire fanbase, accusing them of being illiterate/teenagers/what have you, is quite another.
Funny thing is, I can't defend Tarantino himself, or his actions, but I do defend his movies (a few of them, anyway).
Well, ripped it might have been, but it did turn out to be a good film AND gave me a line on City on Fire as well (though, I wish I had not bothered with Ringo Lam's own steamer).
I know that if were to replicate, "borrow", be inspired by, translate, or lift another's concept and pass it off as my own, others would rightly label me a plagiarist.
this is dumb, i dont see any direct relations. 1. Tarantino's Mr. White just describes a jewelry robbery - not that hard to describe what would be people's roles for a heist like that. 2. Mr. Blonde is psycho and executes MULTIPLE civilians and workers in the diamond place, not just one clerk. 3. The cops are obviously gona come, tarantino has the police there, waiting. 4. there is no link in the car crashes. 5. The only similarity is when the dual-wielding guy smokes the cops in the car.
The heist on the jewelry store goes bad thanks to a police mole who gets shot while trying to make the getaway to their safehouse. The principal characters then have a mexican standoff in the safehouse over weather or not the cop is actually a cop. The police arrive and the cop reveals his identity after the standoff has been resolved. The car crash during the getaway is also a direct cribbing from the plot of City on Fire.
it's not that Tarantino took many of his ideas from other movies and put them in his that necessarily bothers me.....it's that he basically acts as if he thought up the scenes and plots. In relaity he took scenes out of different movies, gave it some nice dialogue, combined it with some good music and tries to pass it off as some sort of masterpiece. Basically he took someones turd, wrapped a ribbon around it and called it art
but was amazed when he made Reservoir Dogs. I mean how could he have thought of such a brilliant movie?! But now i know...i'm not really surprised. now maybe the world will see him for the FAKE BASTERD that he is!!!
im confused. for 90% of this video its just random clips from both films. is this a tribute video to the movies? because i dont really see u showing anything too enlightening here.
i know that. i was being sarcastic. this video doesnt prove anything, hence my comment "i dont really see u showing anything too enlightening here. " the accusations are very superficial imo.
I love RD and I love QT's films, but yes, he did "steal" from City on Fire which I think was a lesser movie, but then I only saw the dubbed version. I think it's like when Shakespeare took existing stories and plays and did them his own way. The only difference is now we have stricter copyright laws which, in my opinion, even as a musican, are a mixed blessing.
No one could sue him for this, Dogs is 30% different from City on Fire. He has definitely borrowed heavily from this film my defense is that City on Fire is a mediocre movie at best and Dogs was a blast. He borrowed a lot from the Killing as well. Was JRR Tolkien being a plagiarist when he fashioned Plato's story of the Ring of Gyges into the Lord of the Rings? Was Picasso a Plagiarist when he painted cubist work?
@satansmonkey Just because Tarintino's version is better that doesn't mean it isn't plagiarism... and the quality is subjective and has no relevance to the legality of it.
Being a paid screenwriter myself, actually it does. If it is 30% different from the original source material then no royalties are due to the originating artist. Since Reservoir Dogs would clearly fall under 30% different and Tarantino was smarter than say Cameron and never admitted to using said material then it is legally very hard to prove in a court of law hence the 30% difference statute. Perhaps that is not how it should be but legally that's how it is.
How does the 30% difference statute have anything to do with quality as I mentioned? I'm just saying that just because the original product wasn't of as high quality, that doesn't give someone the right to steal it just because they make it "better" As for music, I don't think borrowing another bands "sound" constitutes plagiarism. Stealing music and lyrics would. Not stylistic inspiration however. This guy below seems to think Nirvana stole from people.
Not referencing quality, 30% is only in regards to the law. Look, we live in a post modern age and almost all art gives a nod to something from the past. Let's look at the ideas stolen here, Mexican standoff: Ringo Lam probably got that from Leone. Jewel Heist: I can't count how many movies have that going on in them. Undercover cop involved in Jewel Heist: That could be snagged right from the headlines of almost any newspaper.
It never ceases to amaze me how the Tarantino fan boys can defend his plagiarism and call it homage or inspiration. It's one thing to borrow a few ideas or concepts. But that's not what he does. He straight up steals plots and scenes. He's an untalented hack and a criminal. FYI people, copyright infringement is illegal.
Call it c&p, inspiration, plagiarism, homage or whatever you like... but Tarantino makes succes, with or without original ideas, with or without borrowed ides. The guy makes awesome movies. He wins. You're just a pathetic idiot who complains... but Tarantino wins. Reservoir Dogs is awesome, Pulp Fictions is awesome, Kill Bill is awesome and Inglourious Basters is awesome. Jackie Brown and Death Proof aren't that good (?).
I'm an idiot because I take issue with plagiarism? Wow. He doesn't get sued becayse he steals from obscure movies. On the flip side let's look at James Cameron. He steals from less obscure things and he has been sued many times for his plagiarism. If Tarintino has to steal to win... then he loses. As for him making awesome movies, that's entirely subjective and those movies wouldn't even exist if not thanks to the things he stole from. And how does him not being sued invalidate my point?
Wrong. As you see, obscure or not, people such as yourself know about this movies, yet, no one has sued him. No one cares. Those movies aren't afamous. Aren't even good. The Tarantino "remakes" are awesome. He wins. Doesn't matter what you think, people still like his movies and don't care where he got his ideas. Tarantino makes awesome movies. That's it. The ideas, who cares, if it were so important to make original ones, he would have been sued long time ago. Yet, he hasn't. He wins. You lose.
Please, go destroy people like Pink Floyd and Nirvana if your after the real hacks. I would mention shit like Slipknot, but those things are obvious. That is just shit produced from the same uphill slope.
Like two idiot "indy" fags bickering about whose music is more edgy and against the grain, while the real swaggermasters are listening to dead can dance while they code particle systems with their fucking toes.
Copy pasting the plot of another film is not "inspiration", it's plagiarism. It never ceases to amaze me how Tarantino fans can defend him in his obvious plagiarism. They really like to suck his little pecker I guess.
...as a writer myself I'm incredibly "sore" about people stealing other peoples work. It's happened to me before. A lot of work and creativeity (for most people) goes into writing, and creating a film. And then some prick with a big ego comes along and thinks he can take someone elses work, call it his own, and profit from it?
You go beyond criticizing Tarantino to accusing everyone who loves his movies as cock-sucking fanboys. Tarantino has made no secret that he LOVES and is inspired by several genres of cinema, to the point that his flicks are gratuitous lovenotes to certain filmmaking styles.
This scene is blatant plagiarism. There's no denying that. But Tarantino is hardly a talentless hack, and his body of work is certainly bigger than Reservoir Dogs.
How is that relevent, whether I have been published professionally or not? I have produced work, and have done so independently. And as if I would share personal information with some asshat on Youtube... Published or not, no writer would want their hard work stolen by anyone. I'm fucking done with this conversation you people are fucking pathetic. You will defend him regardless of what information is presented to you.
Check Dream Theater, they borrow from Rush, Kansas and Pink Floyd all the time. No one complains. Why? Because they make the "rip off" BETTER.
I don't care if RD ripped off a chinese movie. That doesn't matter. What matters, is that Tarantino made a succesful awesome film, and that chinese movie it's completely unkown.
Well that Chinese movie is unknown only to common Westerners, it was a big success in Asia, Chow Yun-Fat won a Golden Horse award for his role and the film was praised by critics and enthusiasts, even Western critics had praised City on Fire and it is available on Region 1 and 2 DVD. Wow, not that unknown then is it?
Gee... some people need to get a life. You're "anti-tarantino" for like 15 years now? Damn...
So... what's the big deal? You think it's the first time someone borrows ideas? Do you think it's never happened before? Even outside of films. Bands borrow ideas from other bands all the time.
spielberg copied E.T. frm Satyajit Ray's script.James cameron copied Terminator,Avatar stories.Nolan copied Inception frm Dreamscape,duck tales story,2001:a space odyssey
charan5253 6 days ago
@charan5253
Avatar, yes but Terminator-bullshit, except for truck scene, which was inspired by Road Warrior, Cameron based Terminator concept on his dream. concept he brilliantly utilized on shoestring budget and by casting then unknown Arnold as frankenstein monster from future.
mrderrickmcguinty 5 days ago
@mrderrickmcguinty The Terminator was amazingly original, even by today's standards.
squamish4244 1 day ago
if copying is so easy,y dont u copy others' films and make a film and become a millionaire,instead of jealous ranting in youtube.everybody gets inspiration frm somewhere for their stories.
charan5253 6 days ago
QUENTIN = KING.he's the BEST DIRECTOR OF OUR ERA
charan5253 1 week ago
maybe 3:03 is where he got the idea for KILL BILL ...lol
ltum2 3 weeks ago
@ltum2 maybe kill chiba is where he got kill bill
bigbobmarley2008 6 days ago
@joemulvihill1 You have zero perspective and grasp of logic, and you win nothing. If you're trying to convice yourself you did win, on an internet argument which ultimately amounts to nothing, then you're an insecure, butthurt imbecile.
Suck it, pretentious moron.
BasementBeginnings 1 month ago
heard you talk bout this on Radio Drome and ive always new this movie was a rip off but i heard about this film and yeah it really puts everything into perspective great job man i do think Tarentino is a bit of a theiving basterd he still makes entertaining movies
DangerasTM 1 month ago
Next thing you know someone will say the original star wars movie plots were stolen from some Japanese movies or something.
JosephJamesScott 2 months ago
@JosephJamesScott They weren't stolen, since Lucas openly acknowledged Kurosawa.
Zerudah 2 months ago
It really doesn't matter what people say..Tarantino will go down in history as one of the GREATEST film directors of all time!
bobbybombfilms 2 months ago
@joemulvihill1 Sand in my vagina? That's the best you can come up with?
impossiblefunky 3 months ago
@impossiblefunky srlsy bro, stop being a cunt and try making real conversations.
christinebjorg1 2 months ago
@joemulvihill1 OMG I've never heard that before! I also never knew that it wasn't Picasso that said that (though it's often attributed to him). Lame comeback, dude.
impossiblefunky 3 months ago
Tarantino must have 63 different youtube accounts...
8poundstar 3 months ago
Tarantino - what a sad fucking hack. Shameless thief!
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@impossiblefunky i had a question is the todd phillips that you have problems with the same person who directed the hangover films?
2speedykars 4 months ago
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2speedykars 4 months ago
@2speedykars Yes.
impossiblefunky 4 months ago
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2speedykars 4 months ago
See how Tarintino was smart.
If you're gonna steal from a movie it might as well be one that nobody, at least in America, had ever heard of.
Apparently all those countless hours he spent watching obscure movies, that nobody gave two shits about, were not in vain.
octoman511 6 months ago 2
Interesting to know, but doesn't change much for me
SlavaGen 6 months ago
what no mention of Kaante?
magpietatts 6 months ago
@magpietatts Was made years later. And it's generally accepted that Bollywood recycles Hollywood fare.
impossiblefunky 4 months ago
dumbest shit ever to say Tarantino is just a "rip off" because he likes to use his influences in his films. People just like to say that because they think they are "in the know" because they can name the movies he was influenced by. There is so many great things about Reservoir Dogs that make it spectacular other than the plot!
MaskedAvenger13 7 months ago 2
03:02 "They've killed Bill"
Say's it all really, I don't think Tarantino intentionally ripped off this film, he has most probably seen it and it has had some kind of major influence on his work subconsciously. There is no way he would copy this film in such a blatant fashion and not expect to get caught out.
Regardless of whether he did or not, I still enjoy his work and his style.
Note, he also drew inspiration from S. Suzuki's "Tokyo Drifter" with his use of colour to represent characters.
iKebs 8 months ago
people rip things off others all the time, the main point of why people don't like tarantino is that he didn't give credit to the things that he ripped off of
videotapereturner24 9 months ago
yeah well fuck that movie, Reservoir Dogs is better
regulatorzone 10 months ago
Who do YOU think you're fooling? You cut some of the scenes from City on Fire so that they would fit those from Reservoir Dogs.
I mean, I agree that tarantino obviously took (if want "stole") some elements from this movie, but they are definately two completely different movies. City on Fire ain't even about that bank heist, it doesn't turn up until like the last 30 or 20 minutes of the film.
Benjomaster 10 months ago 3
@Benjomaster "Who do YOU think you're fooling? You cut some of the scenes from City on Fire so that they would fit those from Reservoir Dogs."
People who bring that up totally miss the point White's making.
Zerudah 9 months ago
@Zerudah How many great directors have copied Kurosawa's work? Fistful Of Dollars, Star Wars, Magnificent Seven, etc etc big fucking deal!
MaskedAvenger13 7 months ago
@MaskedAvenger13 Well, one of 'em got sued, and the rest did it legally. Guess which camp Quentin's in.
Zerudah 7 months ago
mIKE, RADIODROME FAN HERE....QT is a sad thief.....awesome interview....thanks for the video
dork74 10 months ago 11
@dork74 Thanks!
impossiblefunky 10 months ago 3
city on fire is way better than reservoir dogs
Calfullanas 10 months ago
Shouldn't Ringo Lam be happy? He influenced an classic.
TheDueI 10 months ago
So wait, Tarantino's whole spin on the genre was that it was a heist film without the heist. It reversed the narrative to show the aftermath of the heist, then the build up, and then back to the aftermath. Otherwise it was a definitive genre film and displayed all the tropes entailed. All this video does is impose dialogue over a heist scene (not included in RD), a car crash (every action film ever), a dual gun moment (every action film ever) and an uncomplicated police mole plot. The point?
vicepresidentfru1tly 10 months ago 15
@vicepresidentfru1tly dude i like the film very much, but Tarantino is quoted in a interview saying one of his favourite films is "city on fire". he later states that he has a poster of "city on fire" framed in his house.
Trevor1654 3 months ago
@Trevor1654 Yes, by having the poster he can take from the movie liberally. that's known copyright law.
impossiblefunky 3 months ago
@Trevor1654 really sad that a grown man would have a movie poster on his wall.,,,tarintino, video store nerd----just like tony sopranos' kid.
monk22yrs 3 months ago
@Trevor1654 He never said it was a favorite. Nor did he acknowledge it as an influence on RD.
Zerudah 2 months ago
@vicepresidentfru1tly the point is that tarintino is a video store nerd who put together some unorigonal movies from the stuff he saw while waiting on the female customers he didn't have a chance with until he became a hollywood millionaire.
monk22yrs 3 months ago
yea as good as Tarantino's films are (cept basterds seemed a little slapped together) it does seem like he stole a lot of Reservior Dogs
supermark69 10 months ago
They're not that simular, sure he probably take some influence from it but its not an extroadinarily complicated plot line, just a very good one. Also i see it as taking some influence on to make something just as good or better. So i dont really care Tarantino did this cos Rerservoir dogs is a great film, and people do it in music and we dont complain, thats how music and art works really doesnt it. Bob Dylan was influenced by woody guthrie, etc, all films are influenced by other films
starcraft108 10 months ago
How ironic, Impossiblefunky (Mike White) Rip-Off this from Empire Magazine.
dwight1973 10 months ago
@dwight1973 You should probably do some research before you make an accusation like that. :)
Here, buy this book and we'll talk: Impossibly Funky: A Cashiers du Cinemart Collection
impossiblefunky 10 months ago
@impossiblefunky
Hey you totally stole that title from a formerly influential French film magazine. I'm making a video about it.
I haven't read the comments so don't know if someone else has made this probable point but: every movie maker steals from every other movie maker. Even the ones in the beginning stole from previous art forms. Although your video here is well put together, it ultimately isn't scandalous or revealing- just shedding light on how QT works.
murraymach3 9 months ago
meh, his movies suck big fat cock anyway, theres only so many times you can make a movie without a plot and in random order without people wanting more, hell Guy Ritchie is the same, all his fucking movies are out of order and involve guys suddenly acquiring guns/drugs/something of value, and fighting each other till only 1 or 2 survive, but yeah tarantino sucks dick.
0SatampraZeiros0 11 months ago
you have the most awsome video ive ever seen on youtube you are star
FunnyWarningStickers 11 months ago
you have the most awsome video ive ever seen on youtube you are star
FunnyWarningStickers 11 months ago
Fuck Tarantino. What has he done since Pulp Fiction?
Nolanfan2001 11 months ago 2
@Nolanfan2001 Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Inglourious Basterds (sic), etc.
impossiblefunky 10 months ago 4
Not literally.
@impossiblefunky
Nolanfan2001 10 months ago
@Nolanfan2001
A lot of good movies actually. Some of them inspired by, some of them original, some of them plain ripped off. But all generally good.
TheMrNamefag 10 months ago
It's an objective fact that Reservoir Dogs is an americanized City on Fire. But it's a subjective opinion that Reservoir Dogs is a bad movie because of it. Just thought that needed to be said since so many of you are mixing the two up.
TheMrNamefag 10 months ago
ok i havent seen this movie....:(
poposisa 11 months ago
Hmmm, people is really stupid.
They say everybody copies from everyone.
No, everyone learns from everyone.
There is a difference between being influenced by something and copying something.
Wayavas1337 11 months ago
@Wayavas1337 People is really stupid?
impossiblefunky 11 months ago
@impossiblefunky read the whole commnt
Wayavas1337 11 months ago
@Wayavas1337 that is a copy of a better movie
Calfullanas 10 months ago
Tarantino may take aspects from several lesser known films and put them in his own, however, no one can deny that his films are bad. Some are fantastically entertaining, whilst some are powerful and shocking.
'Reservoir Dogs' is one of my fave films (alongside 'Its a Wonderful Life') and whilst it may rip off from 'City On Fire', 'Reservoir Dogs' is a better film.
If anything, QT should be praised for raising awareness in the west of these lesser known, high quality films he pays homage to.
JOSKE123100 11 months ago
@JOSKE123100 And how did he raise awareness when he would even slap his name on Zhang Yimou's Hero to make people think he had something to do with it?
Zerudah 11 months ago
Yes Tarantino is a thief. Yes he's an egotistical prick. Yes he has a horse face. But will anyone actually see all those old films he's ripping off?
SuperRichardNixon 1 year ago
@SuperRichardNixon I saw CoF, Streetfighter, and Lady Snowblood. Don't care about One-Eye right now, 'cus it doesn't seem terribly interesting.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@SuperRichardNixon fucking asshole
Wayavas1337 11 months ago
Can you suck your own cock?
@Wayavas1337
SuperRichardNixon 11 months ago
I've always though Tarantino was nothing more than an Film editor Masquerading as a Director.
Rodney21a 1 year ago
What I find spooky is even Danny and Mr White has similar personality too- the alpha male big brother military type, the looks in their eye so alike.
Chow and Tim Roth are so similar in their carefree attitude and charisma
It is no surprise that Tim Roth and Mr. White might be given by Quentin with this movie to study too
Quentin made it a cult classic, because he can make it into Independent film heat. The HK director didn't make it as big, because it was a film for making money and no art
stevolim 1 year ago
@stevolim You don't think Quentin Tarantino made this film for money?
Noobssuckass300 1 year ago
@Noobssuckass300 Hahahahaha i thought the same, this asshole is so stupid
Wayavas1337 11 months ago
Yes Tarantino has to reveal his source. WTF is wrong with everyone he`s stealing. He should say i watched City on fire and I made RD. I watched Ladysnowblood and made Killbill.
mauricio1981 1 year ago 5
I can still enjoy Reservoir Dogs because he basically took 5-10 minutes and stretched it into 90. Even if it's derived from something else, it's still its own work.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
Yeah, I never got that whole 'Scripted by Stephen Gaghan' 2001 Oscar win for the American film "Traffic," which was basically a rewrite of the original 1989 British miniseries Traffick, in which much of the script was copied word for word. Some rewrite! All that dude rewrote was his name as the author. Yet the script won an Oscar. Who knew there was an Oscar for xeroxing...
AbsentWithoutLeaving 1 year ago
Wow. I saw City on FIre years ago but I never realised just how much Tarantino took from it. You'd think he would've mentioned it in the credits of RD's somewhere. Oh well, Tarantino still makes awesome films and cinema is better off for his existence
robotdinosaurz 1 year ago
Yeah, Tarantino sure is a fan of "borrowing" other elements from other movies.
But let's think for a second. What makes Reservoir Dogs great?
1. The Dialogue
2. The non-linear structure
3. The fact that the heist itself never really is shown.
4. The acting/actors.
All of these are more or less stuff Tarantino created with his direction. So, he might steal stuff, but at least he does it with skill and style.
SvampinfektionFilms 1 year ago 3
"All of these are more or less stuff Tarantino created with his direction"
More like Roger's script.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@SvampinfektionFilms Actually, the dialogue is probably Roger's, and the non-linear structure is from other movies.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@SvampinfektionFilms quentin tarantino also stole from stanley kubrick "the killing".
Noobssuckass300 1 year ago
"Good writers borrow, great writers steal." - Oscar Wilde!
crickyw 1 year ago
@crickyw QT doesn't just steal. He copies and pastes.
Zerudah 1 year ago
"i steal from every single movie ever made,i love it-if my work has anything it's that i'm taking this from this & that & mixing them together.if people don't like that,then tough titty,don't go & see it right?i steal from everything.great artists steal,they don't do homages." Quentin Tarantino,Empire Magazine,Nov. 1994
natureboyinyourface 1 year ago
I liked his movies alot when i was 15 but they got old real fast. And fuck the cunts that use the word homage in regards to the Unwarranted Self-Important cock sucker. This is a fuckin remake not an homage, in the begining he didnt even admit he stole the idea.
THEDEVILDEVINE 1 year ago
Most of those claims like what Lionsgate is doing are just to leech off your video, I have a few dubs of my own of Speed Racer and they're claming content on them!
Ryoku75 1 year ago
He's just known as the Homage King, you know? Like, i don't think he ever thought he would become a film maker but he was obsessed with films himself and he made honourable references to the classics.
punkdava 1 year ago
Tarantino's "homages" are very clear and he admits them. I wonder why he has such a problem about CoF?
Remakes occur all the time. Woo remade Melville's Le Samourai as The Killer. Scorcese remade Lau's/Mak's Infernal Affairs as The Departed and these are all openly done. For these 2, the originals are as good as the remakes. Even though RD is better than CoF, why not credit it?
jalind1 1 year ago
Sorry but this is pretty pointless. I read an interview once where Tarantino said that what he "does is similar to what rappers do."
He can't come up with plots, so he mixes things from other movies and gives you something new.
What you showcased as proof of plagiarism doesn't work. He's obviously doing more than stealing footage and putting his name in the credits. He is shooting an ORIGINAL FILM, and by original I mean sweat and blood is going into work on a new film.
Gabe080988 1 year ago
thank you for this. Also there is a cowboy bebop episode where he has the exact same outfit on ( from the jacket to the boots) that looks just like Ko chows outfit when he is running down the street in this movie. Although i believe they gave credit to city on fire.
beamo817 1 year ago
Gasp! Guys in crime movies formulate plans for ROBBING jewelery stores, that involves TEAMING UP, AND USING A GET AWAY CAR.
You're so RIGHT. This Japanese guy was the FIRST criminal mastermind to orchestrate this kind of setup and then make a movie about it!!
My point: You've just showed me that he obviously took the premise and a few other things, but it's not hardly "word for word" like everyone said. It's kinda ironic that your video just proved your "point" completely wrong.
Cornwiggle 1 year ago
@Cornwiggle He's not Japanese, and it's a lot more than that. But then most QT fans like QT precisely because his movies are Cliffnotes remakes of work they don't have to or want to see.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Cornwiggle i didn't plan on commenting, but after reading your bullshit of a comment i felt obligated to tell you you're a fuckin' moron. good day sir.
hfhfhfhfhfhfhfhhj 1 year ago
So would it be fair to list EVERY OTHER MOVIE WITH A DIAMOND HEIST IN IT, AND THROW IN KILL BILL AS WELL???
Besides, none of the actual robbery appears in reervoir dogs, the movie still revolves around the aftermath.
medievalxsovereign 1 year ago
@medievalxsovereign Robbery's summarized, but it he had a bigger budget, you can bet it'd be in there.
Zerudah 1 year ago
The video is very right, Tarantino took a lot of pieces from other movies, along with his own creativity, and made a successful film. But so what? This kind of thing has been in Hollywood for decades. Wes Craven's Last House on the Left is a basic retelling of Ingmar Bergman's The Virgin Spring, but I don't see people saying Craven is a horrible director because of it. Both Craven AND Tarantino admit that their films are heavily influenced by other directors, so really, the video is pointless.
jerohare 1 year ago
@jerohare QT never admitted RD is inspired by COF. And Craven didn't ask Harvey Weinstein to buy up, edit, and bury Virgin Spring.
Zerudah 1 year ago
@Zerudah Why does QT need to admit to this like its a crime of some sort? Last time I checked, IP was a pile of bull shit. There's nothing original anymore in Hollywood, deal with it. The people that constantly bitch about QT are as worse as his rabid fans who kiss his ass on the imdb boards all day. Plus, COF was crap; If Tarantino stole anything, he stole a turd and found a diamond inside.
jerohare 1 year ago
@jerohare Because it was a crime? Not sure what IP means. And if it's so crappy, why does QT like it?
Zerudah 1 year ago
personally i'd be pissed off if i had directed a movie with my original ideas and it recieved no recognition then some first time director from america comes in and takes ideas from a seemingly unknown film and then is called one of the greatest directors ever.
bowarrful 1 year ago 4
@bowarrful
I'd be pissed off, and disappointed in myself if I was the director of CoF. QT is recognized as one of the best directors because....he's one of the best directors! He took the basic story and created something that was far better than the original. I think QT should have gave more credit to the original, but I still love his movies.
daemonwulfe 1 year ago
I love Quentin Tarantino. QT flicks make me jizz in my pants.
But guys, get over it. Who cares? If you read ED's Quentin Tarantino page and don't laugh once, then you may at that moment realise... you are experiencing intense butt hurt that won't go away until you unclench.
hedonism13 1 year ago
hmm. after reading Encyclopedia Dramatica and The Anti-Tarantino Page i expected so much more than that.
in fact i did not see anything new here. i think every single Tarantino-related discussion anywhere on the web in the last 10 to 15 years ends up with "he stole that from here or there" vs "he pays homage and professes love"...
thus, in this sense, it is just another tick. yeah, we already know he is a cinematic master thief. moving on, let's see what he'll come up with next...
zimkaF 1 year ago
All artists are inspired from those before and around them, they are humans and see and do similar things everyone else does as we are only limited by what we have on Earth. Therefore one should at least acknowledge their inspiration out of respect of those that helped spark interest.
The only original work of art is the Universe, everything else came from it.
jabariabramson 1 year ago
bill they´ve killed bill!!!!!! hahaha
TEROCKMAN 1 year ago 4
i really think people should start to learn to accept the artform that is called sampling. many beautiful collages have been made, many genres of music have spawned classic songs using samples and quentin tarantino is the face of a new generation of film directors that actually LOVES cinema and should never ever be called thieves. just like many sampling hiphop-producers usually possess way more knowledge of jazz, soul and funk than the people who are arrogant enough to judge them!
kimwayan 1 year ago
@kimwayan There's a difference between "sampling" something and using it as inspiration and just copying a source. Tarantino actually said he'd never seen "City on Fire". That's called stealing; when you take from a source and don't cite it.
And on top of that, why don't you read up on The French New Wave and tell me Tarantino is part of a new generation of film loving filmmakers. Directors have loved filmmaking for 50 years; they just had enough respect for their peers not to steal from them.
AddictedToFunAndMeth 1 year ago
evidence is circumstantial at best, i think this is a well edited video thats for sure. but a film is more than its plot, characters, dialog and shit composition. in other words, its not the story that counts, its how you tell the story. Reservoir Dogs has a pretty generic story, its about a heist that goes bad, pretty simple. but the way the dialog flows and the way the film is shot, and presented, are the work of a true master filmmaker.
Animehermit 1 year ago
ITT every uneducated, unaware 13-year-old boy who thinks that Tarantino is an innovative and talented director. Oooh that's a lot of bitter Tarantino fanbois!!
joemax222 1 year ago
tha hong kong 80s action movies are my favorites!
quentin tarantino movies has no emotion
marcoherrera1 1 year ago
Lol all the stupid people trying to defend their God Quentin
But remakes are good from time to time aren't they?
rusher38 1 year ago
Everybody plagiarizes. Pablo Picasso acquired (stole) his style directly from African art, and he remains an artistic genius.
Volcanic9 1 year ago
@Volcanic9 Do you say Picasso is a great artist or do you say it because everyone else says it? And, would everyone else have said it if they were more familiar with the African art? Personally, I think Pablo Picasso was an a**hole.
impossiblefunky 1 year ago 14
@impossiblefunky That's sort of weird. But the point is that there's more plagiarism that most people realize, and Picasso is just an example. "If this happened" doesn't really matter. Most people would agree he changed the world of modern art, regardless of opinion; yet he stole just as much as Quentin Tarantino did.
Volcanic9 1 year ago
@impossiblefunky Me too, and Im writing this from Malaga :)
danytoon 1 year ago
@impossiblefunky I think there's a differance between being influenced by a style and doing art in the same vain and out and out copying something. Like his work or not, Picasso created original paintings in a familiar style, Tarantino copied an existing film. Big differance.
Ashloomis 1 year ago
@impossiblefunky
"Do you say Picasso is a great artist or do you say it because everyone else says it?"
I say it because I think his art is good. Maybe you're easily swayed by majority opinion but I'm not.
TheMrNamefag 10 months ago
@impossiblefunky Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole..........
LustForeLife 4 months ago
See, I love Edgar Allen Poe. I feel so much inspiration, I'm going to write my own poetry. First one will be "The Hole and the Pendulum." Much different from the Pit and the Pendulum. Next will be, "The Crow." It's not plagiarism, it's inspiration.
Orutra621 1 year ago
@Orutra621 You're right. Imagine you were to take Poe and Stoker and combine them together, people might say that it's genius. It's not.
True art should not be inspired by superficial media, it should derive from the musings of a truly innovative and uninhibited psyche. Fuck Tarantino, he's an ex-film store employee who probably spent his adolescence watching films and masturbating in his own faeces. He knows fuck-all about the real world.
axxx101 1 year ago
Tarintino takes ideas by other people and mashes them together and gives some new ideas to it.
He makes something out of old ideas.
He's the master of the homage.
Convoicev2 1 year ago
lol @ butthurt Tarantino fanboys
Parkerkun 1 year ago
great editing.....
atlasperros 1 year ago
So what if the plot was based off of City on Fire. It still had many memorable moments not in the Lam film and as a whole, was better. The Departed won Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay and was the film Internal Affairs set in Boston instead of China. Why isn't everyone worked over about that? Well, probably because they openly said it was based off of the Chinese film. There's a fine line between homage and plagiarism Quintin and you've passed it
Rhoadhead 1 year ago
Well if I hadn't seen reservoir dogs, I wouldn't have been known with City of Fire either xD
HLimmen 1 year ago
yea, tarantino ripped off the story line, that's no big secret for anyone who watched city on fire before reservoir dogs.. the thing is though, city on fire was an ok film.. reservoir dogs was more than ok.. it was great.. like burroughs once said- bad writers borrow, good writers steal.. mr tarantino, you're one good thief.. thanks for reservoir dogs, it certainly was an upgrade on the original..
picobravo30 1 year ago
Addressing some of the arguments in this comment section:
There's no way I can think of to justify Tarantino plagiarism of this part.
That valid criticism is one thing. But hurling ad hominem insults at his entire fanbase, accusing them of being illiterate/teenagers/what have you, is quite another.
Funny thing is, I can't defend Tarantino himself, or his actions, but I do defend his movies (a few of them, anyway).
MrJimmyNapoleon 1 year ago 5
tarantino sucks.
kaffeeman 1 year ago
Well, ripped it might have been, but it did turn out to be a good film AND gave me a line on City on Fire as well (though, I wish I had not bothered with Ringo Lam's own steamer).
BunrakukenIII 1 year ago
Hmmm.
I know that if were to replicate, "borrow", be inspired by, translate, or lift another's concept and pass it off as my own, others would rightly label me a plagiarist.
Quentin didn't know this movie existed?
How sick.
Donomark 1 year ago
@Donomark Hi there, nobody cares! Thank you for your time.
SkellionPowalskiz 1 year ago
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Donomark 1 year ago
very disappointing mr tarantino, very disappointing
but then what do you expect from an american imperialist?
ThePeterVenkman 1 year ago
this is dumb, i dont see any direct relations. 1. Tarantino's Mr. White just describes a jewelry robbery - not that hard to describe what would be people's roles for a heist like that. 2. Mr. Blonde is psycho and executes MULTIPLE civilians and workers in the diamond place, not just one clerk. 3. The cops are obviously gona come, tarantino has the police there, waiting. 4. there is no link in the car crashes. 5. The only similarity is when the dual-wielding guy smokes the cops in the car.
kburns289 1 year ago
The heist on the jewelry store goes bad thanks to a police mole who gets shot while trying to make the getaway to their safehouse. The principal characters then have a mexican standoff in the safehouse over weather or not the cop is actually a cop. The police arrive and the cop reveals his identity after the standoff has been resolved. The car crash during the getaway is also a direct cribbing from the plot of City on Fire.
mopanda81 1 year ago
it's not that Tarantino took many of his ideas from other movies and put them in his that necessarily bothers me.....it's that he basically acts as if he thought up the scenes and plots. In relaity he took scenes out of different movies, gave it some nice dialogue, combined it with some good music and tries to pass it off as some sort of masterpiece. Basically he took someones turd, wrapped a ribbon around it and called it art
TheHuskerjam 1 year ago 40
Hey, you can't polish a turd, but you can stuff it in a dvd case and sell it for $25
SakataRendeva 1 year ago
@TheHuskerjam I watch his films for the nice dialogue and good music.
TheMightyThesaurus 1 year ago
i never really liked Tarantino.
but was amazed when he made Reservoir Dogs. I mean how could he have thought of such a brilliant movie?! But now i know...i'm not really surprised. now maybe the world will see him for the FAKE BASTERD that he is!!!
92Fishman92 1 year ago 3
im confused. for 90% of this video its just random clips from both films. is this a tribute video to the movies? because i dont really see u showing anything too enlightening here.
Marty0Mcfly 1 year ago
@Marty0Mcfly It's supposed to show that Tarantino ripped off City On Fire
Blacknarcissa 1 year ago
i know that. i was being sarcastic. this video doesnt prove anything, hence my comment "i dont really see u showing anything too enlightening here. " the accusations are very superficial imo.
Marty0Mcfly 1 year ago
@Marty0Mcfly
watch reservoir dogs and then city on fire, you will know
MunnabhaiBluffmaster 1 year ago
Subtitle at 3:02: "Bill! They've killed Bill!" LOL! There's even more to this rip-off than I thought!
VoiceOverBerlin 2 years ago 7
This made me rofl.
sakesu24 2 years ago
People who City on Fire is the 'lesser movie' or 'more obscure' are underexposed redneck hicks
obnubilate 2 years ago
I have been trying to find City of Fire. I want to watch it.
VogtTD 2 years ago
I love RD and I love QT's films, but yes, he did "steal" from City on Fire which I think was a lesser movie, but then I only saw the dubbed version. I think it's like when Shakespeare took existing stories and plays and did them his own way. The only difference is now we have stricter copyright laws which, in my opinion, even as a musican, are a mixed blessing.
CrazeeNow 2 years ago
You did not just compare Quintin to Shakespeare...
VogtTD 2 years ago
Only the process of their writing, not the quality.
CrazeeNow 2 years ago 4
No one could sue him for this, Dogs is 30% different from City on Fire. He has definitely borrowed heavily from this film my defense is that City on Fire is a mediocre movie at best and Dogs was a blast. He borrowed a lot from the Killing as well. Was JRR Tolkien being a plagiarist when he fashioned Plato's story of the Ring of Gyges into the Lord of the Rings? Was Picasso a Plagiarist when he painted cubist work?
satansmonkey 2 years ago
@satansmonkey Just because Tarintino's version is better that doesn't mean it isn't plagiarism... and the quality is subjective and has no relevance to the legality of it.
VogtTD 2 years ago
Being a paid screenwriter myself, actually it does. If it is 30% different from the original source material then no royalties are due to the originating artist. Since Reservoir Dogs would clearly fall under 30% different and Tarantino was smarter than say Cameron and never admitted to using said material then it is legally very hard to prove in a court of law hence the 30% difference statute. Perhaps that is not how it should be but legally that's how it is.
satansmonkey 2 years ago
How does the 30% difference statute have anything to do with quality as I mentioned? I'm just saying that just because the original product wasn't of as high quality, that doesn't give someone the right to steal it just because they make it "better" As for music, I don't think borrowing another bands "sound" constitutes plagiarism. Stealing music and lyrics would. Not stylistic inspiration however. This guy below seems to think Nirvana stole from people.
VogtTD 2 years ago
Not referencing quality, 30% is only in regards to the law. Look, we live in a post modern age and almost all art gives a nod to something from the past. Let's look at the ideas stolen here, Mexican standoff: Ringo Lam probably got that from Leone. Jewel Heist: I can't count how many movies have that going on in them. Undercover cop involved in Jewel Heist: That could be snagged right from the headlines of almost any newspaper.
satansmonkey 2 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how the Tarantino fan boys can defend his plagiarism and call it homage or inspiration. It's one thing to borrow a few ideas or concepts. But that's not what he does. He straight up steals plots and scenes. He's an untalented hack and a criminal. FYI people, copyright infringement is illegal.
VogtTD 2 years ago
And yet somehow, no one sued Tarantino...
Call it c&p, inspiration, plagiarism, homage or whatever you like... but Tarantino makes succes, with or without original ideas, with or without borrowed ides. The guy makes awesome movies. He wins. You're just a pathetic idiot who complains... but Tarantino wins. Reservoir Dogs is awesome, Pulp Fictions is awesome, Kill Bill is awesome and Inglourious Basters is awesome. Jackie Brown and Death Proof aren't that good (?).
samus88 2 years ago
I'm an idiot because I take issue with plagiarism? Wow. He doesn't get sued becayse he steals from obscure movies. On the flip side let's look at James Cameron. He steals from less obscure things and he has been sued many times for his plagiarism. If Tarintino has to steal to win... then he loses. As for him making awesome movies, that's entirely subjective and those movies wouldn't even exist if not thanks to the things he stole from. And how does him not being sued invalidate my point?
VogtTD 2 years ago
Wrong. As you see, obscure or not, people such as yourself know about this movies, yet, no one has sued him. No one cares. Those movies aren't afamous. Aren't even good. The Tarantino "remakes" are awesome. He wins. Doesn't matter what you think, people still like his movies and don't care where he got his ideas. Tarantino makes awesome movies. That's it. The ideas, who cares, if it were so important to make original ones, he would have been sued long time ago. Yet, he hasn't. He wins. You lose.
samus88 2 years ago
It's not plagiarism. It's Tarantino's own movie.
PresidentRich 2 years ago
Uh, it's called "inspiration".
Please, go destroy people like Pink Floyd and Nirvana if your after the real hacks. I would mention shit like Slipknot, but those things are obvious. That is just shit produced from the same uphill slope.
Like two idiot "indy" fags bickering about whose music is more edgy and against the grain, while the real swaggermasters are listening to dead can dance while they code particle systems with their fucking toes.
dano555666 2 years ago
Copy pasting the plot of another film is not "inspiration", it's plagiarism. It never ceases to amaze me how Tarantino fans can defend him in his obvious plagiarism. They really like to suck his little pecker I guess.
VogtTD 2 years ago
You sound incredibly sore about this. Are you an ex of his?
Physicbuddha 2 years ago
...as a writer myself I'm incredibly "sore" about people stealing other peoples work. It's happened to me before. A lot of work and creativeity (for most people) goes into writing, and creating a film. And then some prick with a big ego comes along and thinks he can take someone elses work, call it his own, and profit from it?
VogtTD 2 years ago
You go beyond criticizing Tarantino to accusing everyone who loves his movies as cock-sucking fanboys. Tarantino has made no secret that he LOVES and is inspired by several genres of cinema, to the point that his flicks are gratuitous lovenotes to certain filmmaking styles.
This scene is blatant plagiarism. There's no denying that. But Tarantino is hardly a talentless hack, and his body of work is certainly bigger than Reservoir Dogs.
Physicbuddha 2 years ago 16
OOOOOH, so you're a writer.
What work have you produced? Anything I've heard of, Mr. Writer?
Write your way out of that, bitch.
tvsam 1 year ago
How is that relevent, whether I have been published professionally or not? I have produced work, and have done so independently. And as if I would share personal information with some asshat on Youtube... Published or not, no writer would want their hard work stolen by anyone. I'm fucking done with this conversation you people are fucking pathetic. You will defend him regardless of what information is presented to you.
VogtTD 1 year ago
Check Dream Theater, they borrow from Rush, Kansas and Pink Floyd all the time. No one complains. Why? Because they make the "rip off" BETTER.
I don't care if RD ripped off a chinese movie. That doesn't matter. What matters, is that Tarantino made a succesful awesome film, and that chinese movie it's completely unkown.
Tarantino wins. You lose.
Oh, and you're pathetic.
samus88 2 years ago
propaganda makes all the difference
2 thumbs up XD
Eduardophilipecastro 2 years ago
@samus88
Well that Chinese movie is unknown only to common Westerners, it was a big success in Asia, Chow Yun-Fat won a Golden Horse award for his role and the film was praised by critics and enthusiasts, even Western critics had praised City on Fire and it is available on Region 1 and 2 DVD. Wow, not that unknown then is it?
MunnabhaiBluffmaster 1 year ago
Gee... some people need to get a life. You're "anti-tarantino" for like 15 years now? Damn...
So... what's the big deal? You think it's the first time someone borrows ideas? Do you think it's never happened before? Even outside of films. Bands borrow ideas from other bands all the time.
samus88 2 years ago
Tarantino fucking bastard... Homage my ass! Plagiarism!
Toughguysdontdance12 2 years ago 6
"Less than spectacular?"
You have no taste in movies if your prefer Quentin Tarantino to Ringo Lam. Hope this helps.
RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 2 years ago 3
'less than spectacular'? maybe if them chinese were played by american it would have been deemed 'spectacular' (!)
MyMelancholyDodo 2 years ago
tarantino has bunch of movies and that seems like a movie he was homaging...whatever I think tarantinos a great director
metalheadkid6669 2 years ago
So Ringo Lam copied Tarantino?
I KNEW IT!
WetKant 2 years ago