@rabbalaba You should really stop posting all these long comments. It's annoying, and really, if you think the vid is crap, why did you watch it? Save the space for people who actually have something to say!
I mean no disrespect, but it looks like a particularly...erm..painful stance to hold. You probably need to train a while to be able hold it long, right? My back leg would really burn!
Another question: My instructor thinks Mantis came from Crane. I've read stories about it's founder simply poking a P. Mantis with a stick for inspiration. So..where does your instructor say it came from?
@emulare11 Hundreds of years ago, a man named Wong Long (not Wang Lang as sometimes misinterpreted) invented the Mantis Style while watching a praying mantis fighting and winning against a larger cicada insect while he rested under a tree on a mountain side. He was intrigued at how the aggressive movements of the smaller mantis were able to overcome the size and strength of the cicada, and used it as a model for inventing the praying mantis style.
@Homicide419 im just gonna copy what i said ''its not only stereotyping ''chinese'' (dont you mean Asians? xD) its stereotyping everybody! whites, blacks and asians...'' and there you go! read it
@rabbalaba u racist ignorant arrogant mother fucking piece of shit asshole... whats wrong with white people? im white, im one of the best fighters at my school... and im watching these videos because im trying out new techniques
@rabbalaba is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives... like i said, im learning new techniques so i can be better. the more techniques i can master, the ore techniques i will be prepared to use, and defend against. just last week i was beat by a guy using praying mantis style, so now ive decided to take it up... the problem is im out of cahs so im resorting to youtube videos...
@flexibledude123 HAHAHAHA XD read your reply!!! it was so retarded and arrogant!!! all that chinese bullshit fighting is...bullshit! xD hahaha ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' WHAT THE FUCK!! XD hahahaha i laughed so hard! thank you, for making my day XD xDXD XD all you need to fight is fists! xD oh man you have to be 12-13! you sound like it! xD
@flexibledude123 haha im a fine one??!! did you read you comment again?? XD
''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' HAHAHA im still laughing!!!! hahahahaha XD you little bitch ass cant fight!! all this jackie chan shit, its just bullshit!!
@rabbalaba u say i cant fight... wait till u actually face me in a fight before saying that. it has become clear to me that i am fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent... u r clearly stuck on one little thing and cant quite get your pathetic little mind past it. no matter how hard u try... somehow... ur mind is stuck. and if this jackie chan shit is just bullshit... then what were u doing watching this video?
@flexibledude123 remember when you said ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives''....thats all i got to say about that :) you cant fight for shit mr wannabe-chinese- kungfu-yoda-bruce lee
@rabbalaba listen to me u pathetic piece of shit. i dont want your crap. i didnt ask for your retarted opinion, so dont give me it. I'm no wannabe, yoda doesnt exist, bruce lee is dead. have you no respect fo the dead? youve never seen me fight so you have no way of measuring my skills, so stop trying you worthless ignorant insignificant pathitic little speck of existence. you cant debate. dont try. especially not with me. you WILL lose. you know, just like you do at life.
@flexibledude123 you didnt ask for my opinion??? you started this shit you little pathetic fuck!!! you say i fail at life??!! at least i dont lie on the internet, you bitch!! read my last comment stupid motherfucker!!! xD YOU fail at life! you said ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' THAT SHIT IS FUNNY!!! XD your skills...hahahahahahahahaha YOU cant debate!! STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF!!
@rabbalaba (part one) you have no way of determining if what i say is truth or lies you ignorant little bitch. i live in america. in america we are innocent until proven guilty. i read your fucking last comment you pathetic mother fucker. thats what i was talkinga bout throughout my ENTIRE last comment. did you read MY comment? hypocrite. Im not embarressed. You seem to enjoy laughing at others. you find joy in their pain or supposed embarresment. Thus making you a sadist or troll.
@rabbalaba Sadists and trolls DO fail at life. I dont lie on the internet. what i said was true, and you cannot proove that it isnt true. So stop accusing me of lies you ignorant fuck. Ive taken down countless trolls like you in debates. ive taknen out lawyers in debates. Ive never lost a debate. i CAN debate. Your truly pathetic. I DO pity you. but i wont feel sorry when i win the debate. youve brought it upon yourself.
@flexibledude123 HAHAHAHA man your so fucking funny!!!?? XDXD i never said you didnt take out a couple of fairys! what i said was:P DONT TALK ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET!!! hahahahaha...wait, wait, wait!! i have to bring this up as well! ''Ive taken down countless trolls like you in debates. ive taknen out lawyers in debates. Ive never lost a debate. i CAN debate'' WTF IS THAT SHIT??? DO you know how stupid that shit make you look, when you say that shit?? hahaha you lost the debate! EVERYTIME!!!
Any self defence expert will tell you that standing on one leg in front of an aggressor, with you hands like that giving out the message that you want to fight, is a bad idée! This is my biggest problem with praying mantis style and the wing chun style, both I have practised for a long time. Whats your opinions about this? Send me a message!
The first step exposed is correct in the position of the legs, but the hips are not. Secondly it is not to be taken as a first stance but it is a reaction stance which should be proceeded by a 功步 (gongbu). The second stance resembels a little a 四六步 (or si liu bu), but the feet are positioned incorrectly and there is no kick-boxing style jumping in northenrs Mantis. BTW, cat stance??
In one way its good that he is giving out free lessons on the Internet for those who have no money or cant get to a martial art studio. But in a other way its bad, people are watching this thinking that they know praying mantis which they dont! And also, people are watching this and say bad things about the art because they dont understand it.
yeah i hate when people say how kick boxing styles such as muay thai r so much more better then anything else (been watchin way too much UFC its gettin to them)
but i say its the fighter not the style,
tastes in fighting styles are like tastes in music
@joelaka3pac123 I used to say a lot of crap before i tried kung fu myself. Been training in kung fu for 4 months and i can only say 1 thing for sure. You know NOTHING until you try it (and any other martial art in general).
There are a few comments about Bruce Lee and Praying mantis, can I just advise to be careful here, there's Northern like this and a shorter Southern style which is nearer to Wing Tsun .
Its not really a stance. Mantis moves the mountain around while fighting.
It rarely is un-planted. And when it is, its not for long. The cat stance in part of the fluid movement from the second stance, and into further stances.
He is simply showing how the weight is planted during a snapshot in time. Rarely would a person just stand there like that in a real fight.
In a bar and you see someone come to punch you. You would walk into this stance and then walk your foot into their jewels.
I have one question tho, the vids are all good but what about the other hand/arm? Is there any way to block the other arm when pulling off your techniques?
put the hand you are grappling, when/ if you grab it, in the way of the other as in grappling hands technique, or block the attacking arm and go around to the outside of the persons body and there you have good attack spots.
Actually I can see similarity to this and the Bai Jong stance, the weight distribution and the width of the stance are the same... ...it's just that the Bai Jong keeps the rear heel up instead and the elbows in for defence really...
Bruce Lee's phasic bent knee stance is sort of a praying mantis, or back stance where most of one's weight is on the back leg. Thereby one can flick a kick with the foward leg very quickly.
It's weird how I don't remember reading anything by Bruce lee or other Jeet Kune Do instructors instructing one to put most of one's weight on his back leg.
Its not weird, Bruce Lee did the opposite to Praying Mantis. He had more weight on the front leg so he could spring forward by pushing away with the back leg. No one is wrong its just different theories on how to do things.
oh really? i thought that he would use something similar to a cat stance, except for wider, and bigger, and it was like 60/40 weight ditribution on the legs, but ill take your word
Actually he originally practiced Mantis style along with Wing Chun...he later stated he doesn't really like the idea of animal styles...not just praying mantis
first of all...the praying mantis kung fu is a style of shaolin traditional kung fu,the one with the tiger,praying mantis,snake,crane,leopard,frog style...second of all...if u do master the traditional praying mantis style you wont get your ass whoped...who ever wants to try that can tell me...and ill be more than happy to oblige...the practical stuff is users choice...one must remain calm in order to use the style...but on the street they all tend to do damage more than focus on what they use.
Although many sources say that Wang Lang developed praying mantis boxing at Shaolin, other sources indicate he may have developed the system at a taoist temple at Laoshan, where there is still a monument to him to this day.
All of those techniques are more for theory rather than practical use - when it comes to practical use all of the theory stuff you do will make you get a "feel" for the style so that you can carry on the same mood in a fight.
Survival of the fittest.
jessiebodman 3 days ago
i cant seem to do that stance??? on the back foot, is it supose to be flat down, or on the ball of ur foot???
xXx3PICxPWN4GExXx 8 months ago
@rabbalaba You should really stop posting all these long comments. It's annoying, and really, if you think the vid is crap, why did you watch it? Save the space for people who actually have something to say!
1n8h3 1 year ago
It's really stupid when it comes to kids. They try and imitate what's seen on tv like UFC.
BLUTONIUMBERRY1 1 year ago
the style is simply the base. u r not necessarily limited by the style if u do not wish 2 b. u can open up and build on it
AsianWhoCanDrive 1 year ago
I mean no disrespect, but it looks like a particularly...erm..painful stance to hold. You probably need to train a while to be able hold it long, right? My back leg would really burn!
Another question: My instructor thinks Mantis came from Crane. I've read stories about it's founder simply poking a P. Mantis with a stick for inspiration. So..where does your instructor say it came from?
Thank you.
emulare11 1 year ago
@emulare11 Hundreds of years ago, a man named Wong Long (not Wang Lang as sometimes misinterpreted) invented the Mantis Style while watching a praying mantis fighting and winning against a larger cicada insect while he rested under a tree on a mountain side. He was intrigued at how the aggressive movements of the smaller mantis were able to overcome the size and strength of the cicada, and used it as a model for inventing the praying mantis style.
CarsGunsBooze 1 month ago
0:50 SUCK IT!!!
tbucky723 1 year ago 2
what kind of shoes are those, when i did tkd i had a pair but i cant remember what they are, they were so comfortable
metalmaster014 1 year ago
Whoa, you look a lot like this guy I met in college named Kevin Gasendo. Any relation?
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
this is funny, he preaches about stance but in every other video he never once takes a stance
10lettername 1 year ago
the fucker is white...
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba so?
Homicide419 1 year ago
@Homicide419 so! leave the fighting for the chinese...
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba w/e, he obviously knows what hes doin.....and btw thats such a stereotype on chinese people
Homicide419 1 year ago
@Homicide419 its not only stereotyping ''chinese'' (dont you mean Asians? xD) its stereotyping everybody! whites, blacks and asians...
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba oh watever u kno wat i mean >=[
Homicide419 1 year ago
@Homicide419 no i dont know what you mean...first you say im stereotyping people, then you do the same!
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba how am i stereotyping??? cuz i'm pointing out what you did??? w/e
Homicide419 1 year ago
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@Homicide419 im just gonna copy what i said ''its not only stereotyping ''chinese'' (dont you mean Asians? xD) its stereotyping everybody! whites, blacks and asians...'' and there you go! read it
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba u racist ignorant arrogant mother fucking piece of shit asshole... whats wrong with white people? im white, im one of the best fighters at my school... and im watching these videos because im trying out new techniques
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 hahahaha im white too! and i bet you cant fight for shit if you watch these movies!!!!
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives... like i said, im learning new techniques so i can be better. the more techniques i can master, the ore techniques i will be prepared to use, and defend against. just last week i was beat by a guy using praying mantis style, so now ive decided to take it up... the problem is im out of cahs so im resorting to youtube videos...
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 HAHAHAHA XD read your reply!!! it was so retarded and arrogant!!! all that chinese bullshit fighting is...bullshit! xD hahaha ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' WHAT THE FUCK!! XD hahahaha i laughed so hard! thank you, for making my day XD xDXD XD all you need to fight is fists! xD oh man you have to be 12-13! you sound like it! xD
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba 15. ur a fine 1 to taalk about arrogance,
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 haha im a fine one??!! did you read you comment again?? XD
''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' HAHAHA im still laughing!!!! hahahahaha XD you little bitch ass cant fight!! all this jackie chan shit, its just bullshit!!
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba u say i cant fight... wait till u actually face me in a fight before saying that. it has become clear to me that i am fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent... u r clearly stuck on one little thing and cant quite get your pathetic little mind past it. no matter how hard u try... somehow... ur mind is stuck. and if this jackie chan shit is just bullshit... then what were u doing watching this video?
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 remember when you said ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives''....thats all i got to say about that :) you cant fight for shit mr wannabe-chinese- kungfu-yoda-bruce lee
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba listen to me u pathetic piece of shit. i dont want your crap. i didnt ask for your retarted opinion, so dont give me it. I'm no wannabe, yoda doesnt exist, bruce lee is dead. have you no respect fo the dead? youve never seen me fight so you have no way of measuring my skills, so stop trying you worthless ignorant insignificant pathitic little speck of existence. you cant debate. dont try. especially not with me. you WILL lose. you know, just like you do at life.
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 you didnt ask for my opinion??? you started this shit you little pathetic fuck!!! you say i fail at life??!! at least i dont lie on the internet, you bitch!! read my last comment stupid motherfucker!!! xD YOU fail at life! you said ''is that why ive taken out 5 people at once on multiple occasions, on some occasions ive taken them down, while theyve had knives'' THAT SHIT IS FUNNY!!! XD your skills...hahahahahahahahaha YOU cant debate!! STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF!!
rabbalaba 1 year ago
@rabbalaba (part one) you have no way of determining if what i say is truth or lies you ignorant little bitch. i live in america. in america we are innocent until proven guilty. i read your fucking last comment you pathetic mother fucker. thats what i was talkinga bout throughout my ENTIRE last comment. did you read MY comment? hypocrite. Im not embarressed. You seem to enjoy laughing at others. you find joy in their pain or supposed embarresment. Thus making you a sadist or troll.
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@rabbalaba Sadists and trolls DO fail at life. I dont lie on the internet. what i said was true, and you cannot proove that it isnt true. So stop accusing me of lies you ignorant fuck. Ive taken down countless trolls like you in debates. ive taknen out lawyers in debates. Ive never lost a debate. i CAN debate. Your truly pathetic. I DO pity you. but i wont feel sorry when i win the debate. youve brought it upon yourself.
flexibledude123 1 year ago
@flexibledude123 HAHAHAHA man your so fucking funny!!!?? XDXD i never said you didnt take out a couple of fairys! what i said was:P DONT TALK ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET!!! hahahahaha...wait, wait, wait!! i have to bring this up as well! ''Ive taken down countless trolls like you in debates. ive taknen out lawyers in debates. Ive never lost a debate. i CAN debate'' WTF IS THAT SHIT??? DO you know how stupid that shit make you look, when you say that shit?? hahaha you lost the debate! EVERYTIME!!!
rabbalaba 1 year ago
Any self defence expert will tell you that standing on one leg in front of an aggressor, with you hands like that giving out the message that you want to fight, is a bad idée! This is my biggest problem with praying mantis style and the wing chun style, both I have practised for a long time. Whats your opinions about this? Send me a message!
80KungFu 2 years ago
This are not the basics of mantis.. and the second stance has nothing to share with the style.
yoshyoka 2 years ago
The second stance in the first step in the whole system.
Mar Bo.
The cat stance part is what gets mixed into the basic system. Later, If I recall correctly.
kurtu5 2 years ago
The first step exposed is correct in the position of the legs, but the hips are not. Secondly it is not to be taken as a first stance but it is a reaction stance which should be proceeded by a 功步 (gongbu). The second stance resembels a little a 四六步 (or si liu bu), but the feet are positioned incorrectly and there is no kick-boxing style jumping in northenrs Mantis. BTW, cat stance??
yoshyoka 2 years ago
Un monton de maleducados comentando en youtube?
jagu19 2 years ago
seen this alot and from waht i know u are allowed to use other upper forms with this leg stance thats whats good about kung fu is the flexibility
also seen where they use it but the front foot is more bent inward id like to learn that its probably the same as this though correct me if im wrong
joelaka3pac123 2 years ago
um monobrazuca postando no youtube??
tamir1979 2 years ago
un yankie dando clases de kungfu?
tamir1979 2 years ago
um analfabeto postando no youtube ??
WRannet 2 years ago
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In one way its good that he is giving out free lessons on the Internet for those who have no money or cant get to a martial art studio. But in a other way its bad, people are watching this thinking that they know praying mantis which they dont! And also, people are watching this and say bad things about the art because they dont understand it.
80KungFu 2 years ago
may i ask u guys something? in ur opinion ( i just wanna know) whats better the southern or northern praying manis styles?
AssassinXReflection 2 years ago
Northern = more usage of the legs
Southern = more emphasis on the hands
to put it reallyyy simply
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago
what does emphasis mean?
AssassinXReflection 2 years ago
Importance, I guess. But there's really no "better"... it's just preference.
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago
yeah i hate when people say how kick boxing styles such as muay thai r so much more better then anything else (been watchin way too much UFC its gettin to them)
but i say its the fighter not the style,
tastes in fighting styles are like tastes in music
joelaka3pac123 2 years ago 16
@joelaka3pac123 I used to say a lot of crap before i tried kung fu myself. Been training in kung fu for 4 months and i can only say 1 thing for sure. You know NOTHING until you try it (and any other martial art in general).
Summerjam333 1 year ago 2
I like how he started to laugh when he said when your legs are open like this
Hapkidostudent15 2 years ago
I'd say he giggled...like a school girl.
CarNikolaj 2 years ago
You get kicked in the nuts in class if you do this. Its a light kick, but every one laughs and remembers to keep their gates closed.
It sucks being the objective lesson. But you have to laugh.
kurtu5 2 years ago
There are a few comments about Bruce Lee and Praying mantis, can I just advise to be careful here, there's Northern like this and a shorter Southern style which is nearer to Wing Tsun .
bable666 2 years ago
For Mobility? How the fuck is the stance mobile?
HydraulicSquig 2 years ago
you can fall back or go forward quite easily with the empty step foot and it is easy to direct your gi in the stance as well.
MightySunTzu 2 years ago
I agree with the fall part.
lol... gi.
HydraulicSquig 2 years ago
Its not really a stance. Mantis moves the mountain around while fighting.
It rarely is un-planted. And when it is, its not for long. The cat stance in part of the fluid movement from the second stance, and into further stances.
He is simply showing how the weight is planted during a snapshot in time. Rarely would a person just stand there like that in a real fight.
In a bar and you see someone come to punch you. You would walk into this stance and then walk your foot into their jewels.
kurtu5 2 years ago 7
I have one question tho, the vids are all good but what about the other hand/arm? Is there any way to block the other arm when pulling off your techniques?
Ilikelamborghinis 3 years ago
put the hand you are grappling, when/ if you grab it, in the way of the other as in grappling hands technique, or block the attacking arm and go around to the outside of the persons body and there you have good attack spots.
MightySunTzu 2 years ago
Thank you very much!
Ilikelamborghinis 2 years ago
can he show an example of how it would work when hes not defending himself against air
guitarpwner67 3 years ago
Bruce Lee couldnt see the point in the praying mantis stance... dont think anyone can...
BoxFreshNikes 3 years ago
Actually I can see similarity to this and the Bai Jong stance, the weight distribution and the width of the stance are the same... ...it's just that the Bai Jong keeps the rear heel up instead and the elbows in for defence really...
alexd9999999 3 years ago
lol yeah in other words it's similar in that it's completely opposite ;-)
CarNikolaj 2 years ago
Heheeh, only really on which foot you keep on your toes and the positioning of the elbows... ... ...
alexd9999999 2 years ago
Bruce Lee's phasic bent knee stance is sort of a praying mantis, or back stance where most of one's weight is on the back leg. Thereby one can flick a kick with the foward leg very quickly.
FreeEnergyEngineer 3 years ago
I'd really suggest you do your homework before opening your mouth.
Bruce Lee's stance has almost equal weight distribution between both legs with a slight lean forward.
You'll find evidence for the slight lean in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do in which Bruce mentions "maintaining a slightly forward centre of gravity."
HydraulicSquig 2 years ago
Keep on flipping through the pages of 'Tao...' until you find 'small phasic bent knee stance'.
FreeEnergyEngineer 2 years ago
It's weird how I don't remember reading anything by Bruce lee or other Jeet Kune Do instructors instructing one to put most of one's weight on his back leg.
HydraulicSquig 2 years ago
Its not weird, Bruce Lee did the opposite to Praying Mantis. He had more weight on the front leg so he could spring forward by pushing away with the back leg. No one is wrong its just different theories on how to do things.
80KungFu 2 years ago
if he had more weight on the front leg than he'll be leaning forward too much and he'll be slow if he tries to spring forward
Nhia89 2 years ago
oh really? i thought that he would use something similar to a cat stance, except for wider, and bigger, and it was like 60/40 weight ditribution on the legs, but ill take your word
tycoon121 2 years ago
maybe because its not jeet kun do its praying mantis. its very different
22kng 2 years ago
Actually he originally practiced Mantis style along with Wing Chun...he later stated he doesn't really like the idea of animal styles...not just praying mantis
navysealboy62 2 years ago
first of all...the praying mantis kung fu is a style of shaolin traditional kung fu,the one with the tiger,praying mantis,snake,crane,leopard,frog style...second of all...if u do master the traditional praying mantis style you wont get your ass whoped...who ever wants to try that can tell me...and ill be more than happy to oblige...the practical stuff is users choice...one must remain calm in order to use the style...but on the street they all tend to do damage more than focus on what they use.
AlexSatanel 3 years ago
Although many sources say that Wang Lang developed praying mantis boxing at Shaolin, other sources indicate he may have developed the system at a taoist temple at Laoshan, where there is still a monument to him to this day.
intr1nzic 3 years ago
All of those techniques are more for theory rather than practical use - when it comes to practical use all of the theory stuff you do will make you get a "feel" for the style so that you can carry on the same mood in a fight.
Diemetradon 3 years ago
he'll get his ass whooped.
Donkeyhawk 3 years ago
the relaxed guard reminds me of JKD stance.
kinokid 3 years ago
really nice
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