It has always been a church never refers to itself as a cult. As a revelation of his unprofessionalism this tv journalist openly employs that term of abuse toward the faith community of scientologists.
@daveyork0 Do you know of any serious "religious" organisation that would refer to itself as a cult? I don't think I do. The term cult is usually used by outside observers. I actually agree with you that an unbiased reporter should not address the CoS as a cult... yet. Is it really any great surprise that the CoS doesn't refer to itself as a cult (though countless ex members do)? Abusive, criminal organisation generally do not like to admit what they really are.
@TheEvilOfScientology Cults form around items of popular culture and artists and intellectuals where the membership acknowledges their group as having that nature: cults around Star Trek, the Blues Brothers movie, Star Wars, the Goodies, Monty Python, and the Grateful Dead. The evil internet troll group known as Anonymous also is a cultgroup. It's precursor Is Cult of the Dead Cow.
Scientology recognises it's own church character and has never had a reputation for trivialising itself.
@daveyork0 I notice none of your examples included so-called "religious" cults. Could you name me any "religion" that recognises themselves as being a cult? Did the members of the Raelian Church for example, consider themselves members of a cult? I doubt they did. Just because a so-called "religion" doesn't call itself a cult, it doesn't mean it isn't. I wouldn't expect any religion based organisation to refer to itself as a cult. I think there's a pretty obvious reason why!
Scientology qualifies as a cult on all 5 standard recognised requirements. It's not the only faux-religion that does qualify of course, but that doesn't make it not-a-cult :) Scientology is not recognised as a religion in my country, and quite rightly so. It is a proven criminal, abusive, dishonest organisation.
Again, I am not disputing the fact that a supposedly unbiased reporter should not call a "religion" a cult.
I'm happy for people to believe in any old horse shit they want to, so long as they are not harming others. In the case of the CoS it's demonstrative fact that they do harm to others.
If people want to believe their bodies are rife with Body Thetans that must be removed, and that removing upsetting engrams are the answer to life's problems, great, they should go for it. I hope they're happy.
But if those same people try to preach to me and that things like that actually exist, and that Dianetics or the tech "Works 100% of the time when correctly applied" I reserve the right to call bullshit and question them on either their sanity, gullibility, or both.
You could intelligently dispute that Scientology is not a cult and is a religion. What you cannot dispute is that the CoS is an abusive, criminal, human rights abusing organisation, founded by a criminal, racist, homophobic liar.
Well, looks like I was mistaken, though apparently the Vall team believe "[they've] seen it all before. it'll amount to a hill of beans, just like it did that last time." If their commentary on the tom cruise vid at
watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0
It may take a few months if not a year or two, but I can't wait to watch them squirm as they make excuses that Australia is in on a conspiracy to subvert those that are 'only trying to help people.'
Um ok so Senators believe Co$ should pay taxes. What legislation has been introduced? What charges have been brought fwd?
None. You think cos TT reports that they did a 4 yr investigation and that a couple of senators state they "believe" it is a cult that anything will come of this then you've been had. Co$ will continue to do whatever they like, including paying off politicians to sweep this under the rug. I mean it'll be cheaper that actually paying taxes wouldn't it?
@venuecam With so many accusations being levied at Scientology, their severity AND the overwhelming claims made internationally of such crimes? NO WAY will this get swept under any rug; there's too much dirt under there already. With Xenophone pushing for the inquires and with a commission to determine the public benefit of charities and self-proclaimed religious organizations, Scientology won't be able to get away with it, especially since such tactics are now public knowledge.
Aaaah, boohoo, The cult of $cientology has to start paying taxes:'(
Epic Win for Australia and everybody who think that The Co$ is an abusive scam and a cult.
Also for any scientologist who read this: why did Miscavige squirrel with Hubbards tech (=High crime)? The second dynamic is sex and family, not creativity...
To emphasise the presenter's delicious statement at the end of that segment.....
"....Inquiries into scientology are still being conducted by the British government, the Australian government and various bodies including Fair Work Australia"
I'd guess that vallarrr will be here by friday ranting about how the new legislation too actually investigate 'charitable' organizations is nothing but a conspiracy from those bigots in government. Can't wait.
To all the es-$cientologists brave enough to speak out, to all the old guard, to all the faceless online and real life Anonymous, to Nick Z and Australian senate, I salute you.
Thanks also to Tommy Davis, Tom Cruise and slappy Miscavige who have helped expose the crimes and mind control of the cult!
awesome and L Ron Hubard thought that Australia would be the first continent to be clear LOL well he was half right their the first continent to be cleared of $cientology the criminal cult hiding behind religious cloaking
"Our 4 year investigation"?
I see 2 scenarios:
1: Today Tonight are taking credit where none is due
or
2: Today Tonight is part of Anonymous
Jym01 5 months ago
$cientology obviously didn't pay off the right people. They won't make that mistake again.
cupmyplums 7 months ago
Bryan Seymour + CoS = Marriage
sparkly21 1 year ago
It has always been a church never refers to itself as a cult. As a revelation of his unprofessionalism this tv journalist openly employs that term of abuse toward the faith community of scientologists.
daveyork0 1 year ago
@daveyork0 Do you know of any serious "religious" organisation that would refer to itself as a cult? I don't think I do. The term cult is usually used by outside observers. I actually agree with you that an unbiased reporter should not address the CoS as a cult... yet. Is it really any great surprise that the CoS doesn't refer to itself as a cult (though countless ex members do)? Abusive, criminal organisation generally do not like to admit what they really are.
TheEvilOfScientology 1 year ago
@TheEvilOfScientology Cults form around items of popular culture and artists and intellectuals where the membership acknowledges their group as having that nature: cults around Star Trek, the Blues Brothers movie, Star Wars, the Goodies, Monty Python, and the Grateful Dead. The evil internet troll group known as Anonymous also is a cultgroup. It's precursor Is Cult of the Dead Cow.
Scientology recognises it's own church character and has never had a reputation for trivialising itself.
daveyork0 1 year ago
@daveyork0 I notice none of your examples included so-called "religious" cults. Could you name me any "religion" that recognises themselves as being a cult? Did the members of the Raelian Church for example, consider themselves members of a cult? I doubt they did. Just because a so-called "religion" doesn't call itself a cult, it doesn't mean it isn't. I wouldn't expect any religion based organisation to refer to itself as a cult. I think there's a pretty obvious reason why!
TheEvilOfScientology 1 year ago
Scientology qualifies as a cult on all 5 standard recognised requirements. It's not the only faux-religion that does qualify of course, but that doesn't make it not-a-cult :) Scientology is not recognised as a religion in my country, and quite rightly so. It is a proven criminal, abusive, dishonest organisation.
Again, I am not disputing the fact that a supposedly unbiased reporter should not call a "religion" a cult.
TheEvilOfScientology 1 year ago
I'm happy for people to believe in any old horse shit they want to, so long as they are not harming others. In the case of the CoS it's demonstrative fact that they do harm to others.
If people want to believe their bodies are rife with Body Thetans that must be removed, and that removing upsetting engrams are the answer to life's problems, great, they should go for it. I hope they're happy.
TheEvilOfScientology 1 year ago
But if those same people try to preach to me and that things like that actually exist, and that Dianetics or the tech "Works 100% of the time when correctly applied" I reserve the right to call bullshit and question them on either their sanity, gullibility, or both.
You could intelligently dispute that Scientology is not a cult and is a religion. What you cannot dispute is that the CoS is an abusive, criminal, human rights abusing organisation, founded by a criminal, racist, homophobic liar.
TheEvilOfScientology 1 year ago
@Kitsymac
Well, looks like I was mistaken, though apparently the Vall team believe "[they've] seen it all before. it'll amount to a hill of beans, just like it did that last time." If their commentary on the tom cruise vid at
watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0
It may take a few months if not a year or two, but I can't wait to watch them squirm as they make excuses that Australia is in on a conspiracy to subvert those that are 'only trying to help people.'
paulatredies 1 year ago
Fantastic result! It is now time for $camology to pay, literally :D
Shimzoid 1 year ago
Um ok so Senators believe Co$ should pay taxes. What legislation has been introduced? What charges have been brought fwd?
None. You think cos TT reports that they did a 4 yr investigation and that a couple of senators state they "believe" it is a cult that anything will come of this then you've been had. Co$ will continue to do whatever they like, including paying off politicians to sweep this under the rug. I mean it'll be cheaper that actually paying taxes wouldn't it?
venuecam 1 year ago
@venuecam With so many accusations being levied at Scientology, their severity AND the overwhelming claims made internationally of such crimes? NO WAY will this get swept under any rug; there's too much dirt under there already. With Xenophone pushing for the inquires and with a commission to determine the public benefit of charities and self-proclaimed religious organizations, Scientology won't be able to get away with it, especially since such tactics are now public knowledge.
SunnasChariot 1 year ago
BOOM! Headshot! FANTASTIC!
samigirl88 1 year ago
WIN for the cult of $cientology!!! Uh, no, an epic LOSS.
A quote from Tommy Davis would be great.
marketingg101 1 year ago
Terrific!
11Jamie11 1 year ago
Aaaah, boohoo, The cult of $cientology has to start paying taxes:'(
Epic Win for Australia and everybody who think that The Co$ is an abusive scam and a cult.
Also for any scientologist who read this: why did Miscavige squirrel with Hubbards tech (=High crime)? The second dynamic is sex and family, not creativity...
LRonAnonymous 1 year ago 2
Game over, $cientology.
aidanm101 1 year ago
Have fun paying taxes Scientology.
zambimaru 1 year ago
YES!
thinker900 1 year ago
M-O-O-N. That spells WIN! ^^
AnonRanGER01 1 year ago
Beautiful. Just breath-taking.
Scientology, your days are numbered.
SunnasChariot 1 year ago 3
1 scientologist watched this!
jjonjex 1 year ago 6
I just love justice!!!!!
Mtowfer 1 year ago 3
hugs
mrgreebly 1 year ago
Awesome!!!!!!! Win Win Win!!!!!!!!
The abuse is being stopped!!!!!! Well done Brian Seymour, Nic Xenophon and all the Exes that have spoken out! XXX
yawawot 1 year ago 4
This is a good step. This is the first phase of removing the shielding the cult puts up around itself.
GetTheCans 1 year ago 4
This Senate Inquiry Report is something that all other governments should be tracking.
Go Team "Dismantle Criminal Cults"
EnturbulationStation 1 year ago 2
winwinwinwinwinwinwinwin!!!!
Great result. Lets dismantle them now, state by state, org by org... the governments are finally listening!!
toryluvsrlh2 1 year ago 5
win
coolvidsrule 1 year ago 4
Good work Australian fellas. I work in London and it disgusts me that the CoS can spend £24 million on their empty HQ and yet not pay a penny of tax.
Digscomics 1 year ago 6
To emphasise the presenter's delicious statement at the end of that segment.....
"....Inquiries into scientology are still being conducted by the British government, the Australian government and various bodies including Fair Work Australia"
Omnomnomnomnom
quentinkrisp 1 year ago 5
Hail Xenu!
soulinite 1 year ago 3
fucking scientology... i used to think it was good... but its like a fucking religious maffia. disgusting.
Atheist269 1 year ago 4
No comment from the cult of $cientology idiots who comment on Youtube under the watchful eye of cult handlers? That says it all.
Great job by Senator Xenophon, Bryan Seymour, and the people of Australia. U.S. is next.
A comment from Tommy Davis would be great. He is always good for a statement that makes the cult of $cientology even more idiotic than it already is.
mattezyk69 1 year ago 6
@mattezyk69
I'd guess that vallarrr will be here by friday ranting about how the new legislation too actually investigate 'charitable' organizations is nothing but a conspiracy from those bigots in government. Can't wait.
paulatredies 1 year ago 2
@paulatredies
Nah, she'll call it a Nazi witchhunt.
AnonRanGER01 1 year ago 2
Congrats Senator Xenophon & Bryan Seymour!
chrisholland 1 year ago 9
WWIIINNNN!!!!!! *happy dance*
shalindriaharam 1 year ago 8
To all the es-$cientologists brave enough to speak out, to all the old guard, to all the faceless online and real life Anonymous, to Nick Z and Australian senate, I salute you.
Thanks also to Tommy Davis, Tom Cruise and slappy Miscavige who have helped expose the crimes and mind control of the cult!
laserofjustice 1 year ago 8
awesome and L Ron Hubard thought that Australia would be the first continent to be clear LOL well he was half right their the first continent to be cleared of $cientology the criminal cult hiding behind religious cloaking
cyraxandflyraxHaters 1 year ago 17
The fastest crumbling religion.
CaptainAwesomeoh13 1 year ago 8
I agree with rebbyra! Dare I add the word epic? Yes, I dare!
lumpilulu 1 year ago 6
i would call that a win
rebbyra 1 year ago 6
@rebbyra our win is their epic fail
CaptainAwesomeoh13 1 year ago 6
Watch it and weep Scientology.
cultssuck 1 year ago 8