When Russia lost air superiority in the early months of the German invasion1941 they realised how vulnerable their navy was and withdrew their ships to Kronstadt under protection of torpedo nets and antiarcraft defenses.Japan should have done the same until they retrained another crop of experienced carrier pilots and a covering force of antisubmarine units.
@IanHunedoara8 Russia retreated from the German navy into restricted waters.USN cann't be compared to the small German fleet.Japan as a island economie had to mantain her sealanes,couldn't retreat and still import goods
Plan A-Go was ill conceived with unrealistic assumptions and expectations. The Navy having lost its untrained pilots in the Marianas battle decided to gamble with their empty carriers to make the Yanks attack one force when expected.
this is great,beautiful ijn,some of the handsomest vessels to serve their country.Yamato being bitch slapped by one small destroyer,kinda tough on greatest ship afloat
Japanese forces should have been consolidated into one strong force rather than getting divided into 3 or 4 different forces (Kurita Group, Ozawa Group, Nishi Group, etc.).
the problem with that was that the other allied ships in the area would have been closer, meaning that both sides would have likely lost a whole lot of ships, but leaving japan in a far worse state as the allies had far more ships in reserve, and an ability to replenish them faster than japan could. The idea of the battle was to defeate the land forces, they just underestimated what a determined crew could do with such small ships.
@18seki - I respectfully disagree. The air arm of the IJN was destroyed in the Battle of the Philippine Sea (The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot) and Ozawa's carriers were no longer a threat to the Americans. Stripped of their air wings, they were essentially expendable. Their use in drawing away Halsey's carrier forces was brilliant. The overwhelming superiority of the Third Fleet's fast carriers would've decimated a combined Japanese fleet.
私の父は、栗田艦隊の長門に分隊士として乗っていました。このとき栗田中将がレイテ湾に突入していたら私は生まれていなかったでしょう。何やら運命の不思議さを感じます。
ちなみに伯父は西村艦隊に所属しており戦死したそうです。
pekopeko1500 5 months ago
この時の武蔵に父が乗っていました。前日の朝に沈没した巡洋艦摩耶からの移乗だったので、武蔵沈没前に再び、別の艦に移乗していたので、難を逃れる事が出来ました。空中放火を浴びた武蔵の甲板は凄惨を極めたそうです。手記には次の様に書かれています。「手足頭等がバラバラになって爆風で壁の隅へ押しつけられ、焼き殺され、其の上バラバラにされ、無造作に捨てられているような、広い武蔵上甲板も死体がゴロゴロ転がり出し ーー」この時、父は満１８歳と１０ヶ月でした。
ie7y 8 months ago
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blackeagle574 9 months ago
現代の日本の戦力で臨めば、当時のアメリカ軍を打ち砕くのは容易なことなんでしょうか？
AYUSIGE 10 months ago
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@faeverwa1 さんへ
栗田艦隊は敵がもう上陸を済ませたときに（であろう）
レイテ湾に到着したので空の輸送船団を攻撃し、
燃料もつき、敵の機動艦隊から攻撃をうけ、
主力の大和以下巡洋艦を失うなんてことは
しようとしなかったわけです。
donngurimannueda 11 months ago
When Russia lost air superiority in the early months of the German invasion1941 they realised how vulnerable their navy was and withdrew their ships to Kronstadt under protection of torpedo nets and antiarcraft defenses.Japan should have done the same until they retrained another crop of experienced carrier pilots and a covering force of antisubmarine units.
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
@IanHunedoara8 Russia retreated from the German navy into restricted waters.USN cann't be compared to the small German fleet.Japan as a island economie had to mantain her sealanes,couldn't retreat and still import goods
bv141a 11 months ago
@bv141a It was Yank submarines, not planes that was the bane of Japanese shipping- both commercial and military.
IanHunedoara8 11 months ago
@IanHunedoara8 American submarines did to Japan what German subs tried and failed to do to England
bv141a 11 months ago
人の命をナンだと思ってるんだこの作戦
tukaken83 1 year ago
なぜ栗田は反転したのか。
なぜ海軍は軍法会議もひらいて栗田に問いたださなかったのか
第一の問題はそれだと思う。海軍は理由を追及しなかった
faeverwa1 1 year ago
diz iz fo yo JAPAN!!
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kidrainenfina 1 year ago
「フィリピン人民の諸君私は帰ってきた。我々の血であがなったフィリピンの地を再び踏んでいる」
アメリカってフィリピンに何もしてないよな？
むしろこのあとマッカーサーは500万人の人を殺したって言われてるが･･
ms02s 2 years ago
Plan A-Go was ill conceived with unrealistic assumptions and expectations. The Navy having lost its untrained pilots in the Marianas battle decided to gamble with their empty carriers to make the Yanks attack one force when expected.
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
@IanHunedoara8
This is a surprise? Most of the Jananese plans were like that throughout the entire war.
It's ironic the the Americans of Taffy 3 show more of the "warrior spirit" the the IJN did at this battle.
roadrodent1952 1 year ago
this is great,beautiful ijn,some of the handsomest vessels to serve their country.Yamato being bitch slapped by one small destroyer,kinda tough on greatest ship afloat
bv141a 3 years ago 6
栗田は、逃げた
uri332 3 years ago
well, that's what happens when all the selfishness and greediness for power, the higher you soar the more hurt you fall
rhianderamos 4 years ago
Japanese forces should have been consolidated into one strong force rather than getting divided into 3 or 4 different forces (Kurita Group, Ozawa Group, Nishi Group, etc.).
18seki 4 years ago 5
the problem with that was that the other allied ships in the area would have been closer, meaning that both sides would have likely lost a whole lot of ships, but leaving japan in a far worse state as the allies had far more ships in reserve, and an ability to replenish them faster than japan could. The idea of the battle was to defeate the land forces, they just underestimated what a determined crew could do with such small ships.
alphamone 2 years ago
@18seki - I respectfully disagree. The air arm of the IJN was destroyed in the Battle of the Philippine Sea (The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot) and Ozawa's carriers were no longer a threat to the Americans. Stripped of their air wings, they were essentially expendable. Their use in drawing away Halsey's carrier forces was brilliant. The overwhelming superiority of the Third Fleet's fast carriers would've decimated a combined Japanese fleet.
irishsquid1962 1 year ago
@irishsquid1962
Correct. After the "Turkey Shoot" IJN naval air was pretty much a none factor. The IJN carriers were a waste of metal after that as well.
roadrodent1952 1 year ago