I have a question, is it good to jump some gears, I mean go from 5th to 3rd without passing through 4th?? What´s the point of "jumping" gears? Is it possible upshifting?
Going from say 5th to 2nd would simply require more time on the clutch and a larger blip of the throttle.
A lot of drivers skip gears as opposed to "rowing" simply because rocking your foot back and forth between the brake and the gas upsets braking efficiency. That and many cars have very short stopping distances - going from 6th to 5th to 4th to 3rd to 2nd in the few (3-4 or less) seconds it takes fast cars to stop is a real tasker. I skip personally.
I would say probably most racing drivers do go through each gear sequentially on an H-pattern gearbox.
The reason being that when the car is decelerating, the engine has a dragging force on the driven wheels known as "engine braking". Naturally this has an effect on the brake bias setup of the car. If the brake bias was set so that in neutral all 4 wheels would lock at the same time, threshold braking with the clutch engaged and high the in rev range would lock the driven wheels...
... and it would decrease braking efficiency, since then you have to compensate for the extra braking force on the driven wheels by braking less.
The opposite is true. If you set the car up to brake most efficiently with some engine braking then letting the revs drop too low by skipping gears would also decrease braking ability. So most drivers hit each gear on the way down to properly distribute braking force front and back.
Okay, so I think going through each gear is best in racing.
Skipping gears when downshifting makes you loose revs and braking efficency since you don´t use the "engine brake" and you lock the wheels and upshifting, obviusly makes nosense.
Wow, surprised they still send me updates for 2 year old posts. WRX 5 speeds are very notchy. It's not bad, but it doesn't feel like a regular m/t. 1st and reverse is a bitch to find when cold lool
you should talk about backhanding the third to fourth shifts
too many people grab the shifter like you expect and grab 2nd year when trying to upshift from 3rd to 4th
my last track day someone melted an 08 911 s motor by doing the 4rd to 2nd money shift and i almost ruined my m3 last year by not doing the back hand 3rd -4th shift
I never knew that either
FiresprayXL 4 weeks ago
I never knew that.
raspad67 2 months ago
What about my Mini? The shifter is so hard i cant change gear unless i'm using the entire hand.
aussiearu 5 months ago
How are the synchronizers supposed to do their job without some friction?
How do you get friction without contact force?
Yeah, leaning on the shifter all the time is bad.
maersklandro 9 months ago
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jkutia 9 months ago
"Especially when people get really excited about shit...."
DLEE503 10 months ago 3
@Exutus When it reaches your bones, it will hurt.
Miss you. Always watching.
TheShikhan 1 year ago
"Especially when people get really excited about sh-"
Sh...what?
Shitting? Shooting up? Shouting? Shhh, we're in a library?
so confus
PAVONEZORZ 1 year ago
I'm trying to tell my aunt this lol
handbrake17 1 year ago
no matter how many proper videos are out there, they're still gonna do a Paul Walker on their cars...
i like that you emphasize on the fact that you guide the shifter into gear rather than grabbing hold of it...
any by the way, joeracer is an idiot...drag racing/traffic light gran prix is for idiots who only know how to mash the accelerator...
god5peed 1 year ago
@Exutus Ha, ha, ha, and you heel and toe downshift? That way the syncros will not suffer.
WHITEVOLK8814 1 year ago
The clutch itself should not affect the stiffness of the shifter, only the clutch pedal.
colinlucas 1 year ago 3
@colinlucas not the clutch pedal the pressure plate
steveocw 1 year ago
What if you have like a stage 3 racing clutch then youll need more then 3 fingers to move that
vietboiracer 1 year ago
I have a question, is it good to jump some gears, I mean go from 5th to 3rd without passing through 4th?? What´s the point of "jumping" gears? Is it possible upshifting?
What´s bes,t do it in order, why?
Thank you.
WHITEVOLK8814 2 years ago
You can jump to any gear from any gear.
Going from say 5th to 2nd would simply require more time on the clutch and a larger blip of the throttle.
A lot of drivers skip gears as opposed to "rowing" simply because rocking your foot back and forth between the brake and the gas upsets braking efficiency. That and many cars have very short stopping distances - going from 6th to 5th to 4th to 3rd to 2nd in the few (3-4 or less) seconds it takes fast cars to stop is a real tasker. I skip personally.
MadCat360 2 years ago
So in racing, it´ll be good to do it with heel and toe so you don´t loose the revs.
I doubted because I´ve always seen racing drivers go through every gear, but because they use to have secuencial gearboxes and you can´t skip gears.=)
WHITEVOLK8814 2 years ago
I would say probably most racing drivers do go through each gear sequentially on an H-pattern gearbox.
The reason being that when the car is decelerating, the engine has a dragging force on the driven wheels known as "engine braking". Naturally this has an effect on the brake bias setup of the car. If the brake bias was set so that in neutral all 4 wheels would lock at the same time, threshold braking with the clutch engaged and high the in rev range would lock the driven wheels...
MadCat360 2 years ago
... and it would decrease braking efficiency, since then you have to compensate for the extra braking force on the driven wheels by braking less.
The opposite is true. If you set the car up to brake most efficiently with some engine braking then letting the revs drop too low by skipping gears would also decrease braking ability. So most drivers hit each gear on the way down to properly distribute braking force front and back.
MadCat360 2 years ago
There's reasons for and against both techniques. It's just a matter of recognizing which one will work better for your own talents.
MadCat360 2 years ago
Okay, so I think going through each gear is best in racing.
Skipping gears when downshifting makes you loose revs and braking efficency since you don´t use the "engine brake" and you lock the wheels and upshifting, obviusly makes nosense.
Thank you very much, it´s been useful.
Cheers!
WHITEVOLK8814 2 years ago
any more good tips????????? i would love to hear them all! and if so i might just subscribe. thanks.
Chin07126 2 years ago
This guy knows what he's talking about..the shifter is there to SHIFT gears, not to be stroked and jerked off as you drive.
ScorpiosRevenge1 2 years ago 23
@ScorpiosRevenge1: ...but what if my chick does that to it, she sat on it once :P
besman007 5 months ago
what if you have a cable tranny.
your trannys all syncronized.
Robcicle 2 years ago
All road racing. You can see my other videos at youtube/colinlucas
colinlucas 2 years ago
This is how I've shifted for racing for ten years. I don't remember missing many shifts.
colinlucas 2 years ago
haha i just watched your vid and then i looked under related videos and quick shifting by bizzyboy does the exact same thing u said not to do!
motorolaq9m 2 years ago
Haha, you should drive a WRX, there is nothing "delicate" about the gearbox
sunnylotto 3 years ago 19
@sunnylotto dont even talk, i have a 25 year old audi 4000 and i can shift delicately lol
0FlyingSwede0 8 months ago
@sunnylotto Ive never driven one and am thinking of getting one, how is it different from any other gearbox?
zVlPERz 6 months ago
@zVlPERz
Wow, surprised they still send me updates for 2 year old posts. WRX 5 speeds are very notchy. It's not bad, but it doesn't feel like a regular m/t. 1st and reverse is a bitch to find when cold lool
sunnylotto 6 months ago
you should talk about backhanding the third to fourth shifts
too many people grab the shifter like you expect and grab 2nd year when trying to upshift from 3rd to 4th
my last track day someone melted an 08 911 s motor by doing the 4rd to 2nd money shift and i almost ruined my m3 last year by not doing the back hand 3rd -4th shift
RingerRacing 3 years ago 2
wat car is that
BIGADEBANKS 3 years ago
Its a 2003 Audi A4 3.0 Quattro.
colinlucas 3 years ago
Thanks for the tip
aberrari 3 years ago
kool
raymondbertrand123 3 years ago