The Arab Scientist.-متحف تاريخ علماء العرب

[83amedi]

All of them are not arabs, Persian, Kurd, Turk , Barbari ..

[jamilanooo]

@83amedi and u r from where by the way?

[83amedi]

@jamilanooo I am kurd

[jamilanooo]

from where?

iraq ?

[83amedi]

@jamilanooo yes , erbil

[jamilanooo]

@83amedi R,I,P, sadam

[83amedi]

@jamilanooo اخذ حقه .. اللي يعادينا هذا مصيره. بطل الحفرة القومية العربية ههههههههههه

[jamilanooo]

@83amedi kann naykaak howaa

[711870445]

may god give you the best rewards brother and it would be a great idea if they build it because i am planing to visit it, inshaallah.

[TheMutification]

there was no persian scientists only ibn sina... o wait he was from uzbek haha which means that the persians were only pulling islam down hehe. go steal somebody else scientists you fire worshippers!

[HopiZ]

this video was for my graduation project in the architecture department at 2006

and i Recognized that i was really meaning is the Muslim scientists as iran marzban had said, all of them are Muslims. and talking Arabic but really they are all from different countries, and of course there are many others i didn't mention'em in the video because this video was for a presentation

and finally thank you all for your comments

:)

[taxona100]

@HopiZ ay dude i have thes scense project that i need to get an arabic scentest if you can help me and tell me a famos one and good and easy to reaserch on. sorry for my bad english.

[danielkachal]

LOL most of them are Persian LOL... ARABS ?

[tarashti]

I dont belive it arab and Scientology

mohammad is arab sciëntis

hi sed only;yoghattelu, yosallebu,ghoyelu

this is filosofi of Islam

find you'r self that they are Persian or Arab

kir to kosse zane havadarane Araba

va namouse vatan foroushan ra parsian

khahad terekound.

[IranMarzban]

crap video... arabs had scientists, but a lot of this scientist you mentioned were muslims from different background ( es pecially persians)

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban who made iran anyways??

thanks to arabs

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

Iran goes back for at least few thousands of years,Unlike arabic countries and borders that were drawn and made up by british recently after the fall of ottoman empire. "Eran/Iran" is mentioned by sassanid kings as an independent country with one government, and natural borders 2000 years ago.

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban

SO where did u with the empierz that were before the ottoman?

and who made them?

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

kurds,persians turks, but all of them fought in the name of Iran for Iran, not for ethnicities. Arabs occupied Iran 200 years.

Umayads (arabs) occupied Iran for 130 years. After that the abbasids(arabs) witl the help of Iranians defeated umayads. The abbasid government were heavily persianized (persian generals,advisors etc..) After 70 years of ruling Iran, semi-independent Iranian dynasties such as samanids,saffarids ended their power in Iran.

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

before ottoman empire there were Iranian dynasties/empires, such as zand dynasty, saffarids, samanids,ghurids,Buyids. Then there was also turko-Iranian empire such as saffavid empire who fought ottomans. There was also mongol occupation.

However.. arab presence in Iran was minimal as I said.

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban

no it is not true,,,

well the only ppl that stopped and won mongol were arabs,,,and that was in Syria,,that tells u a fact that mongol won whatever iranian thing u say that was there,,,but i am sure u know that arabs won wars in iran ,,

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

no mamluks defeated mongols in syria, mamluks had turkic origings. Iranians ruled arabs for 1000 years (sassanid,parthian,achaemenian­,safavid empire). Arabs ruled Iran for 200 years. I think you should read few more books. Keep in mind that history doesnt mean nationalism.

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban

1000 years,,i do not think so,,,

and mamaleks were sons of arabs from what is called jariah ...made..

and no i am not sure about 200 years,,coz i know it si more,,

the leader of the army in syria...do u know his name??

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

doesnt matter who the general was, else we can say abbasids were Iranian because their best general, named abu muslim khorasani, who was Iranian defeated the umayads. If not 1000 years, then at least 800 years, i think you can google it, and read about these empires, and see their maps.

Mamluks were Kipchak turks, they were slaves who were imported, but grabbed the power, and ruled.

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban NO Point of replaying u :)



[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban but what man

i love iran,,coz in the end we r all under the same flag,,,and i am from Palestine

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

I apoligize if I insulted you in any way.. we had a discussion, civilized.. without calling each other bad names, or insulting each other. That is the way of debating and that is the way of respecting each other.. for a better world. God bless you.

[IranMarzban]

@jamilanooo

god/allah bless you. I respect you as brother, and I love your country palestine because you respect me and love my country. Whatever our religion and our country is.. we are first human! we should always encourage ourselves to bring peace of progress to earth and humanity.

[jamilanooo]

@IranMarzban man thank u,,,really this is something we both have,,,n i pray we all get our glory back enshallah,,soni shia we all under the same thing,,

[kingcrazy15]

i know that many arabian were become a scientis but american people did not recognize coz american pepole are idiot!

[lahmamamia]

lawl arab my ass

[jamilanooo]

@lahmamam

lol i have 1 word for u

go plow ur mum

[lahmamamia]

@jamilanooo

go plow ur mum is 4 words, exactly the same amount of times that you got ass fucked by ur dad

Arabs have to take credit for others inventions and contributions because u got none. Thats quite pathetic and now if you don't mind i got better things to do than having an argument with a low life scum like you. Maybe you should stop wasting your time on the internet bitching and instead pay a visit to a library and read some fucking history book. Maybe then youll notice how stupid u r

[jamilanooo]

@lahmamamia Y do not u go fuck ur mum again,,,

and who the fuck r u to talk about the ppl who fucked u

[lahmamamia]

idiots dont claim PERSIAN SCIENSTIST AS ARABS

[saowd]

Dear brother abp250

U know very well that khannaiee is just like any arab dectaor. He will remain in power till he die. Just like what khominee did before

[abp250]

I am not here to support Khamenei or Iranian government. Iranian government system has a lot of flaws but is a lot more advanced than all Arabic systems. Khamenei does not directly involve himself in adminitstration jobs but your life time presidents and rulers do.

The main important difference is that Iranian government is not the product of some coup or some colonial desicion to install a government. Iranain government with all its flaws is the only government with national agenda.

[saowd]

Brother u know very well that the current Iranian goverment is product of the west during the cold war

[abp250]

You cannot deny the role of masses in establishing this governtment. You cannot deny three people movements among Iranians in the past century. "Mashrotiat" movement in Iran a century ago asked for limiting the power of the king. The movement to nationalize oil was the second movement fifty years ago. And the Iranian revolution thirty years ago. Not one similar to such events occured in Arabic countries. Only coups and coups. With Arab masses absent from the political arena.

Iranian soci

[abp250]

It is very interesting that "Rafedees" are being accused of cooperating with mongols to massacre "MUSLIMS". That reminds me of the American bases in the Persian Gulf countries used by Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Rafedhi Iran still remains the only country who is not ruled by American/British puppets. Rafedhi hizballah was the only group of Arabs who put up a meaningful resistence againt your zionist semitic cousins.

But I think you believe too much of your Arabic propaganda.

[saowd]

Brother i know that your country is ruled by a very bad type pf arabs who acll themselfs (sayeds) which mean in arabic (the masters) while in islam the only masters are the prophets like Adam , Noha , Ibrahim , Issa , Mohammed ..etc (peace be upen them)

[saowd]

but this dosn't mean u have to insult every arab on earth.

[abp250]

My Arabic friend. Iran is NOT "ruled by a very bad type of ARABs" Those ruling in Iran are Azeris, Persians, Arabs, (regardless)...some of them claiming ancestry back to prophet that is mostly not true.

The system of government in Iran is a lot more advanced than most Araic countries. Iran does not have the traditional ruling family similar to other Persian Gulf Arab countries. A ruling family installed by the British rule there forever. Even in Arabic republics there is no true election.

[abp250]

Arab presidents are replaced by their sons. No Arab president will go out of power unless he dies and is replaced by his son. Please when you say something about another person look at the mirror. You may have the same faults yourself.

[saowd]

dear brother abp, the arabs govermments and the khammnaie goverment all of them came to power with the Wetern help . U know very well the one who made the reveloution are the communist in iran while khommini was haiding in Paris . When the west felt they will lose Iran for the communist they supporetd khommini to take the control becuse the shah was so weak to stop the coummuinsts. At that time afghanistan was under a commuinst govermant and they did'nt want to see that in iran aslo.

[abp250]

No my Arabic friend. Iranian government came to power as a result of people's "REVOLUTION" against western backed Shah's government. ALL western powers started to oppose this revolution right after its victory. One year later, your Arabic hero Saddam, supported by ALL WESTERN powers and ALL ARABIC MONEY attacked Iranian revolution. Your Arabic countries driven with Arabic Assabiya supported your Arabic mass murdrer by money, and soldiers. NO "Western County" supported Iranians.

[saowd]

Yes the people made the revolution and the Communists and some islamists were the leadres of that revoulations but the west supported the khomine rather than to support the Communists. Most of the youth people who killed by shah were Communists. but the kohminee took the credit

[abp250]

It is very interesting that in your comment you say "Rafedi Tusi" cooperated with mongol against MUSLIMS.

A shia would say it diferently. Wahhabis blow themselves in the streets and markets of baghdad and kill "muslim" women and children.

Really which one is true?

[saowd]

by the way before only 400 years ago there was a larg comuntey of zaradushti in iran but the savawes froced any muslem or zaradushti to convert to shiasem or he will killed and thie way many muslims and zaradushti ranians ran away to india . the great iranian poet (saadi) taked about and without him we will know nothing about what heppend at that time

[abp250]

My friend. Saadi lived seven centuries ago and could not possibly know anything that happend four hundred years ago. But it is true that Safavis converted the sunni population of Iran by force, Similar to when Salahaddin converted the shia population of egypt by force.

Read more history my friend, other than your sunni Arabic texts. Most those texts are not true.

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[saowd]

Yes Saadi lived seven centuries ago and that time was the beginning of the religous cleansing. When the mengols invaded Iran and the rest of islamic world Tousi and the rest of rafzee shia helped them against muslems . after that the safawiees came and completed the mission. Saadi described what happend to the muslems in bhagdad under the mengols and the tratiors shia mullas

[abp250]

I dont know why you see the history so one sided my friend. Being an Arab and being a wahhabi should not stop you from reading some real history outside your Arabic texts. You speak English .. read some English texts outside propaganda written by Pan Arabs and by Wahhabis.

[saowd]

lol my persian brother. the difreant between me an d u is look to the others without hate while u hate every thing arab in this world. Of course you will show some objection becuse it is somthing u don't want to know about it

[abp250]

Hatred of Arab is something I heard a lot.

A narcississtic self loving Arab sees any fact that does not serve the Arabic narcissism as "hate" against Arabs.

That reminds me of your zionist cousins who call everybody who does not serve them "anti semite".

[abp250]

Sorry. The Arabic hatred of anything Iranian is their attmpt to change the history. Attempt to change the historical name of Persian Gulf is only one of the samples. Videos such this shows the same. The recent war of Arabic "hero" Saddam against Iranians that was supported by all Arabs is anohter sample.

Afterall Arabic assabiya is deep rooted and you cannnot deny it.  Arabs deny the existence of all others historically. Kurds living in Arabic Iraq, and Berbers living in north Africa suffe

[saowd]

brother racisem is every were but you have to know that arabs are not racist people becuse the arabs who imgrated to Fares bacome persians and the arabs whi imgrated to india become indians. Yes the are some racist people and my duty and your duty is to stop the racisem in our home becuse in iran the azeris , kurds , balushies are suffring from the raciesm

[abp250]

The official name of Iran is not "persian" republic of Iran. But most Arab countries call their lands "Arab" republic of ... "Arab" kingdom ...

The Arabian mentality of denying other cultures is still seen in North African countries where Berber culture is denied. Arabic barbarism in Kurdish areas by Arabic hero Saddam took a very ugly face. Arabic expell of Jews from all Arab countries can also be seen.

In Iran none of those ever happened with such scales.

All Persian Gulf countries sti

[saowd]

brother Can u tell me What the woed (IRAN ) means ?

[abp250]

In ancient Avesta Iran means land of Arians (Iranians). However, the word has lost its meaning in modern Persian. The word Iran is a historical name that refers to a land with no specific refrence to any ethic group. Azeri Turks are as much Iranians as Arian Kurds or Semitic Iranian Arabs or Jews living in Iran. Unlike the residents of most Arabic countries who are classified as being Arabs or non Arabs.

[abp250]

It is amazing how Arabs are ignorant the complex Iranian society and history. Arabic texts focus on the history of the region from the tribal stand point of Arab Non-Arab or Shia-Sunni point of view .. full of hatred towards others ..

[saowd]

If i talked about the sunnies in Iran this dosn't meann i hate shia. I talke and i care about the sunnie persians becuse the are living under Discrimination

[abp250]

Sunni Iranian is living under double discrimination in Shia Iran. Similar to shia minorities who were living under sunni rule in other countries and were discriminated against.

The problem is the Arabic Assabiyya combined with wahhabism has enabled colonialism to spread dead and destruction over the middle east. American bases are all spread over the sunni countries while shias are singled out as the coopearators. Arabic assabiya tries to deny anything non Arabic .. historical names, ethinc

[saowd]

u are a persian nationlist just like the arab nathionlist just care about thier own people and discriminat the others. I am a muslim and i care about every human being on earth this is the difference between me an u .

[abp250]

You call yourself muslim and say that you care about "every human" regardless of their orgin. I doubt it my friend. You are confusing Arabic Asabiyye with Islam. These are two different issues. The muslim scientists are called "ARAB scientist" while most of these scientst were not Arabs. The name of Persian Gulf has changed by Arabs. Arabic assabiya has attacked Iran under the name of Quadessiye by your Arabic hero Saddam and massacred one million Iranians. Nothing Islamic about any of th

[saowd]

brother. before only 7 months there was noe single video talking about arab assabya but there was tons of videos about persian Assabya and most of that videos was attaking arabs and islam and even Mohammed (pbuh). I tolled them to stop that becuse this will awak arab Assabya but they did'nt listen. belive me i am a muslim and i don't care about race you are from all i care about is your acts is is good or bad

[saowd]

Yes and bush and Queen Eliszabith are also persians . I think all the world is persian hhhh

[KingRobbStark]

Most of the Scientist were not even from Iran, and the only reason they spoke Persian is because of the former Persian Empire.

[saowd]

also u have to know my brother that in egypt there was no shia. there was onley the fatemis royal family and they failled to convet one muslim to shiasem becuse must of the fatimes were bunch of sicos like al hakem who used to to force the people of cairo not to sleep at night and they have to keep thier shops opend till the morning. The people of egypt asked Salahudin to help them to het rid of the tratiors fatimes becuse the fatmies helped the crusades against the muslims .

[abp250]

Very interesting one sided view of history. Very interesting.

There was no shia in Egypt and only government was shia. (LOL)

Just read some history outside your Arabic (Wahhabi) texts. You will be surprised by the facts you will find.

[saowd]

brother i am not asking u to just belive me u can go and check the history books. Also for your information even the fatimies family in egypt they were (Ismaili shia ) not (Imami shia ) as in iran and both of those two sectors look to each others as kaffers

[abp250]

Thank you for your information. But I suggest you read some history books outside your Arabic wahhabi propaganda. Since you speak English you have a good chance.

[saowd]

Can u show me any book say the opposit of what i have said ?

[abp250]

You do not even need to go far. Look on internet. Read ANY book in English not written by Pan Arabs and not written after the colonial power tried to revive the old Arabic Assabiya to establish new Arabic government. Your Arabic texts written in the 19th centuries would say different.

[saowd]

abp250 u seems to be a zaradushti. U can be proud of your religon and culture but don't attak the others. U must respect the others so they can respect u back

[abp250]

Respect those who fabricate history? Ok I respect those .. however, I do not respect history fabrication my friend.

[saowd]

If u look to any historian fact u don't like as a fabrication then you really have a serious problem

[abp250]

One thousand years Arabs were scorned creates the dangerous complex of inferiority among Arabs.  Arabs today can act like wild animals. because they were occupied for a thousand years until british gave them indepedence. Arabic complex of inferiority exhibits itself in kinds of mass murdering pigs such as Saddam, Zarqawi, .. and the pathetic so calle presients such as mubarak and the kind of British king of jordan ..

[abp250]

Arabs offered the book burning omar, the mass murdrer Saddam, and the disgusting Zarqawi to the world.

[saowd]

I want the all persians her to understand i am not racest but when i see racest people i have to stop them. All the persians are my brothers

[parandehdarya]

iraqi and egyptian and syrian...all r second hand arab.before orginal arabs conqure their lands,they all had their own language culture and tradition

show me AT LEAST 1 sudi arabian scientist

only 1

[saowd]

what do you mean by second hand arab hhhh this the frist time i read such thing hhhh . u really seem to know nothing about history

[parandehdarya]

were egyptian arab before muslims conqure them?

were assyrians arab?

were finiqis (lebnon) arab?

today they are called arab

or better second hand arab

i think u wanna say egyptian were arab even before islamic era

[abp250]

Arabs are Arabs .. the backward Arabic culture of sister killing, lizzard eating, bowing in front of the the strong is so Arabic that noone can deny it.

[parandehdarya]

non of the persian guys had arab background

dont try to steal from others...

[abp250]

Arabs have nothing to be proud about .. that is why they try to take pride of non Arab scientist and call them Arabs.

What Arabs can be genuinely proud of?

Binladen? Zarqawi? Wahhabi sect? British invented flags? British installed governments? British created countries? Arabs have complex of inferiortity and that is what makes them dangerous. They feel insecure and if they get any power, they will be like wild animals. Saddam showed what Arabs can do. One million Iranians dead is the r

[parandehdarya]

iranians had 3 univercities before islam gondishapour nasibi and...

omar ibn khattab burnt them all

but later invited ALL THOSE BOOKMEN TO IRAQ AND THEY OPENED HOUSE OF WISDOM SECOND BRANCH OF GONDISHAPOUR

[saowd]

is this one of the racest lies u have been tolled ? do you know even before islam there was no farsi scripts. the ancient persian used the Akkadian arabic scripts and sfter islam they used the Aramic Arabic

[parandehdarya]

iranian language was called Pahlavi

search for pahlavi language or avestan

[abp250]

Really?

I am really amazed with your limited Arabic knowledge. I think this nonsense is taught to you in your schools. (Arabic education) LOL

First of all Aramic and Arabic are two different things. I dont think syrians who speak Aramic consider themselves Arabs.

Second, the alphabet used by Iranian before Islam was different. Not Aramic. The most complete alphabebet was called "DinDabiri" to write religeous texts is still one of the best phonetic alphabets in the world and not rabic my

[abp250]

This Arabs says there was no "farsi script before Islam" .. LOL

My Arabic friend read a bit before you leave such nonsense. There is a book called avesta that has still survived the Arabic Assabiya. It is written in an alphabet that is called dindabireh the most complete phonetic alphabet even by todays standards. Read beofor you expose your Arabic stupidity my friend.

[saowd]

hhhh can u show me what the script look like ? do u think u are talking with somone who don't know the psersian history ? as i tolled u the psersian were nomad triped who came from russia and lived with the Elam kingdome ( Arabic smetic nation ) . since then they started to use the Elamit and Akkadinas knowledg and both of the tow nations are arabs

[abp250]

Saowd you claim to know the Persian history. I may agree you may watched some documentary on one of pan Arabic TVs.

For your information:

1-Elamis were not ARABs .. they were not even semitic nation and besides ARAB and Semitic are two different thing. Akkadians were semitic People and they were not Arabs either. Why do you like to take credit of civilised semitic cultures?

Arabs cannot take pride in the achievments of Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrews ..

Why do you mix history?

[saowd]

1-Elamis are not arabs ? you are like saying russians are not russians !

2- Arabs mean the people who came from Arabia and Arabia is the home of all the semtic nation watch this to know more

watch?v=JtwGhCfv7VQ&feature=re­lated

[abp250]

So according to you all semites are Arabs. (LOL) Most Assyrians, Calodonians, and Syrian Christians and Jews I met take pride of their semitic origin but will be insulted if I call them Arab. Just read my friend a little more.

Besides .. There is absolutely no evidence that Elamites were semites. Similar to Sumerians. None of these two ancient nations were semites. Just read a bit more and do not fabricate history my friend.

[saowd]

brother if u want to know somthing dpn't ask the ordinary people just go and search in the scientific books . Some assyeians and zionsts jews says they are nott arabs becuse of the religous resosns

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[abp250]

The ancient script used during sassanids still exists thanks to the zoroastrians who immigrated to India far from Arabs. Avesta is written in that script. This is only one script left ... you can read a little more my friend.

[parandehdarya]

POOr muslims and arab

they beleive there was nothing before islam ,they forget persians,greek,indian,egyptian­,sumerians,babelyons,chinais,n­ative americans,africans

hahahahahaha

[saowd]

OK Can u name to me on persian scientist before the arabs conquer persia ?

[abp250]

My Arabic fried .. that does not matter that Omar your great conqueror burned all Iranian scientific books under the slogan of Quran is enough for us.

After Islam, Irianian scientists are the ones who broght science to Islam. Even Arabic grammer was regulated by Iranians. Even Sunni science was established by Iranians. Read Ibn Khaldodoun (that you falseley call him Arab) wrote about Persians.

[saowd]

haha why Omar don't burn the greek Books in jeruslem ? do u know Omar even don't destroy evem one zaradushti tempel ? while the Savaed (Savawes) and your Mulla regiem treating the zaradushti as a seconed class people

[abp250]

Are you joking? Then read some more history other than watching Arabic TV channels:

Even the burning of library of Alexandria was ordered by Omar. Read Ibn Khaldoun, Ibn Nadim, ...

You just like to deny the Arab barbarity committed by Arabs when started their invasion.

[saowd]

brother u should read more. who burn the libary of alexandria is Gaius Julius Caesar by mistak when he burned the egyptian ships. the famous histotian (bluetarch) (100 AD) wrote about it in his book ( the life of Caesar).

[saowd]

sorry the correct name of the romania historian is بلوتارخ Plutarch

[saowd]

Can you tell me to which race the iraqies and the syrians belong to ? hhhh

[abp250]

two third of Iraqis are semites. One thire of Iraqis belong to Indo european ethnic group. Turkmens belong to neiter.

[saowd]

I did'nt say all iraqis are smites but 80 % of the are semites

[molezay]

sorry to say that but Arab is living at stobe age now.Arab education 'falling behind'

[saowd]

All of them are arabs and ask any european historian do'nt ask iranian becuse the iranians think they are the best people in the world and the arabs are dumbs

[abp250]

You dont need to ask any European historian to see none of those scientists you are so proud of were Arabs!

Your Arabic culture only produced barbaric thugs and mass murdrers. Go read a bit outside your stupid Arabic texts written by your racist Baath party.

[parandehdarya]

OMG,inb sina,nasi din tusi,khawrazmi ...were arab? prove me dumbass

[mouslem6690]

يا مسلم تعرف على اعدائك الحقيقيين

تأمن من مكرهم بأذن الله

الصق هذا( تاريخ الدولة العبيدية في مصر )في مستطيل البحث وتعرف على الأسماعيليه انظركيف

يسجدون لغير الله (اعرف من هم اغلبية قبيلة يام)

تعرف على الطرف الأخرالمتخفي من الشيعه

[smbose1]

الله اكبر

متى يكون لنا الان مثلهم؟؟ الله المستعان

[saowd]

95% of them were pure Arabs while the others are romans , persians and indians who look to themself as Arabs

[abp250]

LOL

95% of them were pure ARABs... LOL

Razi was Arab?

Khwarazmi was Arab?

Avicinna was Arab?

..................

Even Arabic grammar was written by an Iranian. But Arab chuavenism likes to deny the fact ..

[saowd]

كل العلماء عرب كابن حيان ابو الكيمياء والادريسي او الجغرافيا والرازي ابو الطب وغيرهم لان اغلب الطبقه المثقفه في ذالك الوقت كانوا عرب اما بقية الشعوب فكانوا يعيشون في جهل مدقع

[salahart]

انا من المهتمين بالمتاحف والعلماء وعندما قرأت تاريخ العلماء العرب وجدت ان كلهم فرس عدا ابن سينا

[abp250]

And I disagree that most these scientist were from Iraq. Again search more. And besides, there has not been such country as Iraq before the British carved the fake country from the Ottoman Empire.

[abp250]

Most these scientists were not Arabs. Why do you insist in calling them Arabs. They were muslim scientists who were mostly ethnically Persians. If writing in Arabic makes them Arabs, then Newton who wrote in Latin is an Italian.

[HopiZ]

Yes I;m wth you that they are Muslims before being arabs. and it is the most thing we must mention it. but most of these muslims scientist are from Irag, And i think that Iraq is an arabian area. and afte and before all that, we can say arabs on those who can read, write, talek arabic, or wat do u think so???

[abp250]

No my friend. I disagree. If whoever writes in Arabic is an Arab, then all the scientists wrting their book in Latin were Italians. Was Newton an Italian? And No, most moslem scientists were not ethnically Arabs. They were from all nations, Amazighi, Spanish, and mostly Persians. Search more ...

[nafmee]

can you give reliable source that they r persian?

all of them r arab by culture and most of them ethnically r arab.

all of them r muslim at the end.

[abp250]

The problem is that Arabic chauvenists never accept that the majority of the "muslim" scientists are NON-ARABS.

You do not need to go far .. internet is the best source. Just go to wikipedia and bring a simple list of muslim scientists. I bet 90 percent of them will be non arab and a lot are Persians.

But Arabic chauvenism try to deny the existence of Iranians because Iranians are the only nation occupied by Arabs that although became muslims, they never turned into ARABs like others.

[saowd]

abp250

I have made a search about them and i found 99% of them are pure arabs

plz enugh of your persian racisme

[abp250]

LOL

Yea, the guy who was born in Neishabur (Khorassan) was pure Arab! LOL

The guy whose name is (Khwarazmi) is pure Arab! LOL

Or The guy whose name is (RAZI) meaning from Rey (a city near present day Tehran) was an Arab!

Idiot, none of these scientists were Arabs.

NONE!

99% were Arabs because the Saddam Baath party gave them Arabic citizenship? Idiot .. writing a book in Arabic does not make them Arab.

[saowd]

hhhh if i am an arab and i born in iran this dos'nt mean that i am an iranian. Can u name to me on persian scientist before the arabs conquer persia ?

[shatree2007]

even some of Muslim scientist introduced as persian but evidently they were Arabs. like Geber - son of Hayyan al-Azdi, a pharmacist of the Arabian Azd tribe who emigrated from Yemen ( Arab ). and many many more. U know that Arab is a nomadic peoples, they spread over the world and even some kings of europe were descendant of Arabs.

[parandehdarya]

IBN khaldon books clearly says all muslim scientists were persian,iraqi or syrian..a secend hand arab not orginal arab

[abp250]

A few decades ago British and French establishes Arabic countries off the Ottoman Empire. After that, the fabrication of history starts. The Arabic complex of inferirority shows itself as barbaric Arabic regimes, fabrication of history, false geographical names, and stupid claims on non existent historical achievements for Arabs.

Collective complex of inferirority is the result of Arabs being scorned and occupied for a 1000 years. To boost their Arabic pride, Arabs take pride of their glorio

[saowd]

hhh you even don't now what arab mean ! you are sayong Iraqi or syrian not arab hhhhhh

[saowd]

Can you tell me to which race the iraqies and the syrians belong to ? hhhh