@Seadweller451E It's funny, but this is the same thing Pharoh was saying to Moses. I think he and you have been spending too much time in deNILE. ;) Seriously though, have you ever sat down and talked with Holocaust survivors before you made up your mind?
What is the point of being Jewish if you don't believe in the God of the Jews? If Judaism is antiquated and unreliable as a foundation for living, you should just drop it and renounce being Jewish. I understand that you feel a responsibility to fix what is broken, but how can you even begin to fix something you don't even accept the tenants of? Let me know if I am off base with this comment.
Born-Again Christianity views all humanity as wicked, depraved, and worthy of hell. Believing that all evil in the world is God's punishment for sin, and the result of man's depravity as allowed by God, how could you even have sympathy for those who suffer?
Worse still, Jews for Jesus believes that every Jew that died in the Holocaust is now burning in hell forever...So who's worse? Hitler, who tortured Jews for finite time, or the Christian God, who torments Jews for eternity?
Attention all Jews and Gentiles! I urge you to watch the three video clips from VenomFangX: Proving Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ is the Lord God of Israel and Jewish Messiah and Proving the Bible is inspired by God. Also watch the video clip from TheDigitalTruth: Yeshua the Jewish Messiah and two video clips from simonant22: How I found the Jewish Messiah in Israel and What was this important thing said at the Wailing Wall.
As the Ashkenazi Jews started to get out of the ghetto (that they built--for a reason) and started to assimilate, talks about Jesus started to arise (as noticed in Elie Weisel's writings and also Anna Frank's) - the Holocaust broke out. I wonder why that is.
Sounds like you are saying that the Jews should have stayed in the ghetto and that believing in Jesus had to do with the hatred and nationalism in Germany? I know that is not what you are saying is it?
What I'm saying is that the ghetto served a purpose. Nobody said that Jews should have stayed there. The idea of "the ghetto" is segregation, which prevents assimilation. Notice that the ones that did integrate with "modern" Europeans did not wish to immigrate to Israel (when they had the chance). They felt at home. Hitler proved it otherwise.
And stop trying to interpret my words. I do not need a commentator.
llamapantz, changing religion or declaring you don't believe in God won't change you from being what you're born. A baby doesn't HAVE religion or know anything about it, neither is a newborn able to formulate a belief OR disbelief in God. Yet a baby born as a Jew is a Jew whether they know anything about God or Judaism. Nothing will change that.
If they're Jewish and they've found Jesus, that means they're Christian.
You missionaries are determined to get Jews to convert. There was a quote someone said, that they'd rather convert one jew than 5000 gentiles. You're taking advantage of elderly people who have gone through the trauma and make them sign their wills over to Jews for jesus.
If you doubt that YaHshua (Jesus) is the Mashiach of Israel, read what G-d says about the Mashiach in The Tanach: Zechariah 13:6, Zechariah 12:10, Isaiah 50:6, Psalm 22 (especially verses 15-18), Isaiah 49:6&7, and in Isaiah starting from 52:14 all the way to the end of the 53rd chapter. You will be surprised.
Okay, not that that has ANYthing to do with my original comment, BUT.
Let's just say I've seen some stuff, and the passages more than likely have no hold. Yeah, there's a passage about, what was it, ropes being tied around wrists and ankles? It's actually a lion surrounding him. Mistranslations.
You can't just explain away messianic prophecy as mistranslations. When you look at the whole of the scriptures it becomes very evident when a prophecy is about the Messiah and when it is not. The question is if the prophecies point to Jesus, are you willing to accept it, or does it not matter what the scriptures say and you don't believe it no matter what?
@Seadweller451E It's funny, but this is the same thing Pharoh was saying to Moses. I think he and you have been spending too much time in deNILE. ;) Seriously though, have you ever sat down and talked with Holocaust survivors before you made up your mind?
jfjweb 1 year ago
What is the point of being Jewish if you don't believe in the God of the Jews? If Judaism is antiquated and unreliable as a foundation for living, you should just drop it and renounce being Jewish. I understand that you feel a responsibility to fix what is broken, but how can you even begin to fix something you don't even accept the tenants of? Let me know if I am off base with this comment.
jfjweb 3 years ago
Born-Again Christianity views all humanity as wicked, depraved, and worthy of hell. Believing that all evil in the world is God's punishment for sin, and the result of man's depravity as allowed by God, how could you even have sympathy for those who suffer?
Worse still, Jews for Jesus believes that every Jew that died in the Holocaust is now burning in hell forever...So who's worse? Hitler, who tortured Jews for finite time, or the Christian God, who torments Jews for eternity?
AntidoteY 3 years ago 4
AntidoteY, what do you believe about God? Who do you think Jesus is?
jfjweb 3 years ago
Attention all Jews and Gentiles! I urge you to watch the three video clips from VenomFangX: Proving Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ is the Lord God of Israel and Jewish Messiah and Proving the Bible is inspired by God. Also watch the video clip from TheDigitalTruth: Yeshua the Jewish Messiah and two video clips from simonant22: How I found the Jewish Messiah in Israel and What was this important thing said at the Wailing Wall.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
As the Ashkenazi Jews started to get out of the ghetto (that they built--for a reason) and started to assimilate, talks about Jesus started to arise (as noticed in Elie Weisel's writings and also Anna Frank's) - the Holocaust broke out. I wonder why that is.
KnockAr0und 4 years ago
Sounds like you are saying that the Jews should have stayed in the ghetto and that believing in Jesus had to do with the hatred and nationalism in Germany? I know that is not what you are saying is it?
jfjweb 4 years ago
What I'm saying is that the ghetto served a purpose. Nobody said that Jews should have stayed there. The idea of "the ghetto" is segregation, which prevents assimilation. Notice that the ones that did integrate with "modern" Europeans did not wish to immigrate to Israel (when they had the chance). They felt at home. Hitler proved it otherwise.
And stop trying to interpret my words. I do not need a commentator.
KnockAr0und 4 years ago
llamapantz, changing religion or declaring you don't believe in God won't change you from being what you're born. A baby doesn't HAVE religion or know anything about it, neither is a newborn able to formulate a belief OR disbelief in God. Yet a baby born as a Jew is a Jew whether they know anything about God or Judaism. Nothing will change that.
jfjweb 4 years ago
your an idiot.
orplistic 4 years ago 3
That really doesn't address anything, orplistic.
jfjweb 4 years ago
Perhaps you can explain how someone born Jewish can stop being something they are born? That really doesn't seem very logical.
jfjweb 4 years ago
If they're Jewish and they've found Jesus, that means they're Christian.
You missionaries are determined to get Jews to convert. There was a quote someone said, that they'd rather convert one jew than 5000 gentiles. You're taking advantage of elderly people who have gone through the trauma and make them sign their wills over to Jews for jesus.
Bakurakrazie 4 years ago 2
If you doubt that YaHshua (Jesus) is the Mashiach of Israel, read what G-d says about the Mashiach in The Tanach: Zechariah 13:6, Zechariah 12:10, Isaiah 50:6, Psalm 22 (especially verses 15-18), Isaiah 49:6&7, and in Isaiah starting from 52:14 all the way to the end of the 53rd chapter. You will be surprised.
YerushalayimShelZaha 4 years ago
Okay, not that that has ANYthing to do with my original comment, BUT.
Let's just say I've seen some stuff, and the passages more than likely have no hold. Yeah, there's a passage about, what was it, ropes being tied around wrists and ankles? It's actually a lion surrounding him. Mistranslations.
Bakurakrazie 4 years ago
You can't just explain away messianic prophecy as mistranslations. When you look at the whole of the scriptures it becomes very evident when a prophecy is about the Messiah and when it is not. The question is if the prophecies point to Jesus, are you willing to accept it, or does it not matter what the scriptures say and you don't believe it no matter what?
jfjweb 3 years ago