he kicked the girl because she wasnt complying and she didnt move when ordered by law enforcement officials. she wasnt protesting for no war she wanted to fight the police and the guy with the bean bag gun told her other wise
This is why COPS ARE BEING KILLED IN RECORD NUMBERS THESE DAYS. ALREADY IN 2010 50+ Have been killed in just three months. And you know what I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY FUCKIN COPS CRYING LIKE BITCHES SAYING WHY ARE THEY KILLING US. BECAUSE YOUR A FUCKIN TARGET THAT'S WHY!!!!!!
IT IS SO FUCKIN FUNNY TO SEE COPS CRYING AT FUNERALS. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK LIKE YOU COPS DONT. EXCEPT WE DONT WALK AROUND LIKE TARGETS. DUMBASSES.
Maybe we have "worse" cops because we have "worse" people. I know that our "poor" are prone to violence. They constantly threaten caseworkers and medical staff if they don't get their "pain" meds. Some are ex-cons.
Sometimes it gets down and dirty. But when that officer with a beanbag gun throws an unarmed lady to the pavement then kicks her while she's down and trying to get up... C'mon. That part was unnecessary.
A lot of the older people that you see daily - well-dressed, driving Mercedes, diesel trucks, and Beamers were the same people who thought they knew what was best for America in 1970. Truth is, they wanted out of the draft. They don't even like politics.
Portland has a young demographic. Perhaps that is why the "citizens" do such moronic things. The big protests over the housing for homeless was the final straw. The lazy bums should try working. Older people worked in the fields, canneries, etc. We know lies when we see them. The "homeless" need to be put to work.
If the minimum wage in 1960 was adjusted for inflation today, we would have a minimum wage of well over $10.00 an hour.
Maybe it was easy for people like you to work hard and succeed back in your "glory days" (I'm sure you're not a bottom-level wage-earner at this point in your life-- you have to support children), but it's getting more difficult, especially for adults with families who CANNOT get a job that pays over $6.25 an hour...
Whatever though, they should just shut up and work...
Ever heard of illegal immigration? Do you know that for each batch of the illegals they have to give jobs to a bilingual at higher levels in order to "service" them? This is in all state agencies. So, all Americans lose.
In the fall of 1970 I marched through Portland with thousands to protest the Vietnam War. I didn't have the slightest idea what I was protesting, but many friends were doing it, so I did, too. I was frightened at one point - not by the police but the other protesters. Many protesters are just kids who go along with crowd behavior.
Exactly. Half of the people there probably have no idea why they were there. But they made a sign that said something negative about Bush and now they fit in. They have no friends and need fellow traitors to survive.
Maybe they should have a difficult job and would finally understand. But, if Portland keeps shelling out the money for the homeless ($58 million last year) they will have more nonsense.
That's right, go back to work, aim for those six figures above anything else, and stick your head in the sand. Don't protest, don't think, dont be critical, and don't be politically active.
That was probably the mantra of your average German citizen in the 20's and 30's.
We'll be a fascist, brainwashed, corporate-controlled murderous superpower in no time...
That argument is garbage. I'm sure there were millions of people in europe during the dark ages saying the same thing-- that they should shut up because some other people have it even worse.
It's amazing the amount ov ignorant, right-wing morons who keep coming here commenting. Obviously, many ov you idiots don't give a DAMN about your Rights!
..and EVERY single action that I have attended has ended in police-initiated riot so I have to assume that you and I have opposite luck or that something else lurks here.
Typically, the first step towards a police state is to undermine the authority of legitimate independant institutions, such as the constabulary, and to demonise its members. At the same time the footsoldiers of the oppressor are encouraged to, and rewarded for, engaging in behaviour which in normal society would be unacceptable. Such as throwing rocks and verbally abusing and threatening officers.
What is really frightening is that the people wearing masks have subordinated themselves to a group identity and a cult of obedience. Obviously the masks are a symptom of thier low self esteem. All historic oppressors exploit the simple-mindedness of such people for thier own ends.
What will have to happen to you for you to WAKE UP? Them kicking your door in and dragging you off to a gulag? You no longer have ANY rights... NO RIGHTS.
If you are such a fan of what is happening ENLIST and bring my son home...NOW!
Is that some sort of white power protest? I've noticed with these anti-war protesters they are very selective in which wars they are anti-. The rascists remained discreet silence when Rwanda happened, but as soon as a few whiteys get hurt they out bleating and whineing. The war in Iraq will continue whether US and its allies help the elected government there or no, but the protests will stop as soon as US pulls out. They are just stooges of the multinational alternative energy corporations.
Don't what planet you've been visiting but the movement against the INVASION OF IRAQ has been going on for YEARS... Wake up! You no longer have ANY rights under the constitution. Bush has done away with ALL OF THEM!
I wasn't there so I don't know but it appears that things get more out of control when the police step in. Its almost like they're looking for a riot.
It's too bad that you think that only someone who is liberal or leftist could possibly criticize police for attacking people that are standing around. I pity those that need to identify as either left or right but I know that there are plenty of people on the right side of American politics that stand against this kind of thing. Should you disagree, you only illustrate how isolated you are. Evidence of such is to be found en masse if you look.
I read a quote in the Portland Tribune that summed it up perfectly:
"Offensive behavior does not advance peace and justice in the world. Rather, it undermines the moral message of peace demonstrators. It leads people to believe that it's not possible to be both patriotic and opposed to the war in Iraq."
The Flag and a Soldier fucked up the country? THEY ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB. As far as our Flag, if you don't want to respect it, and feel it should be burned...LEAVE OUR COUNTRY!
At the Nuremberg trials, where many Nazis were sentenced to imprisonment and death, it was decided that humanity does not stand for, "I was only taking orders." You champion hypocrisy by doing so. Let's not mention that soldiers are lied to to get them there.
If you would side with fascism, tyranny, and the creed that there are people out their fighting for our right to shut the hell up, then get the hell out of my country, you nazi pig!
You make me laugh smiley. Re-read what you wrote: "The soldiers are lied to to get them there" If they are lied to, it isn't their fault. Many call this war the Bush legacy. But last I checked it wasn't the Bush line who founded the country, who named a red white and blue flag, made for our morale, the Flag of our country. The red stripes wasn't Bush blood, it was the blood of our Patriots.
They are lied to and once there, there is a choice - bear the consequences and act according to morality once the truth is found out or take the easy route, collect your pay, and hate who you're told to.
I don't see how my support of our troops, and this country makes me a Nazi. If this is YOUR country, why don't you enlist and volunteer to fight for it. Because obviously my passion and sacrifice for her means I should leave... in your humble opinion.
You would tell someone that was at a protest witnessing and standing on the sidelines to leave the country. She was attacked by police and the video is not ambiguous on this. If witnessing our tax dollars at work is unacceptable to you then it is indeed YOU that needs to go enlist in some Stalinist regime.
I did my stint on the high seas, lady, and I was not fighting for the right of anyone to shut up. When people take a crap all over what I supported with my neck and imply that the right should not be used, I cringe. Perhaps it is you that needs to go and see what our military efforts are all about.
Who told you I had not already been in the military. Whoever told you that and whoever is telling you that they know anything about me is lying to you; or are you lying to yourself. You assume much.
YAY! At least Three of those anarchists (ones with mask or rags to cover their face) got their asses arrested. To the girl who was freaking out, why don't you freak out about The Flag Being burned? or about the dummy soldier in effigy being burned....
Thanks for bringing out into the open the innate anger that drives our opposition. We are all so dumped on as citizens and as people that most of us just turn around and pass it onto whoever our particular social group says it is okay to step on. I doubt very much that you really know the source of your anger, though I am sure you THINK you do.
As far as why didn't she freak out from a flag being burned, maybe that burns a little less than an eye full of habanero juice dealt out to her for simply being there. Just where do you get off implying that she doesn't even have the right to observe her own tax dollars at work without being punished for it?
I didn't imply anything. I asked about why she wasn't upset about the burnings, and what about the sign they carried saying "fuck our troops"? My husband is a soldier.
I'm sure the macing didn't happen to just random people standing there. It was provoked.
A - You don't know that she wasn't upset about flag burning. B - You can see that she was just standing there when she was attacked. It is a sad fact that many are willing to believe what they are supposed to believe instead of what their own eyes tell them.
he kicked the girl because she wasnt complying and she didnt move when ordered by law enforcement officials. she wasnt protesting for no war she wanted to fight the police and the guy with the bean bag gun told her other wise
Stormspartan 1 year ago
GET SOME LOL!!!!!!!!!
choochoostites 1 year ago
This is why COPS ARE BEING KILLED IN RECORD NUMBERS THESE DAYS. ALREADY IN 2010 50+ Have been killed in just three months. And you know what I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY FUCKIN COPS CRYING LIKE BITCHES SAYING WHY ARE THEY KILLING US. BECAUSE YOUR A FUCKIN TARGET THAT'S WHY!!!!!!
IT IS SO FUCKIN FUNNY TO SEE COPS CRYING AT FUNERALS. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK LIKE YOU COPS DONT. EXCEPT WE DONT WALK AROUND LIKE TARGETS. DUMBASSES.
TheMrTUFFTALK 1 year ago
They just don't understand. Many kids who are incarcerated did not do well in school - have lower IQ's.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
Maybe we have "worse" cops because we have "worse" people. I know that our "poor" are prone to violence. They constantly threaten caseworkers and medical staff if they don't get their "pain" meds. Some are ex-cons.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
beat some sense in those normal people..thats proper police work.......give all american police a medal
1herjir 3 years ago
proper work my ass, it's total abuse of power!
ejr23 3 years ago
I'm sure you too can apply to be a policeman or woman and be a great one if you like.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
It is like that almost every year. Portland police are very horrible at staying calm.
xSammygunx 3 years ago
Why don't you try being a policeman? Someone has to do the dirty work.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
Sometimes it gets down and dirty. But when that officer with a beanbag gun throws an unarmed lady to the pavement then kicks her while she's down and trying to get up... C'mon. That part was unnecessary.
il0vedillon 2 years ago
They are only "human" and don't make that much money considering what they do.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
A lot of the older people that you see daily - well-dressed, driving Mercedes, diesel trucks, and Beamers were the same people who thought they knew what was best for America in 1970. Truth is, they wanted out of the draft. They don't even like politics.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
Portland has a young demographic. Perhaps that is why the "citizens" do such moronic things. The big protests over the housing for homeless was the final straw. The lazy bums should try working. Older people worked in the fields, canneries, etc. We know lies when we see them. The "homeless" need to be put to work.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
If the minimum wage in 1960 was adjusted for inflation today, we would have a minimum wage of well over $10.00 an hour.
Maybe it was easy for people like you to work hard and succeed back in your "glory days" (I'm sure you're not a bottom-level wage-earner at this point in your life-- you have to support children), but it's getting more difficult, especially for adults with families who CANNOT get a job that pays over $6.25 an hour...
Whatever though, they should just shut up and work...
aewester 3 years ago
Ever heard of illegal immigration? Do you know that for each batch of the illegals they have to give jobs to a bilingual at higher levels in order to "service" them? This is in all state agencies. So, all Americans lose.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
In the fall of 1970 I marched through Portland with thousands to protest the Vietnam War. I didn't have the slightest idea what I was protesting, but many friends were doing it, so I did, too. I was frightened at one point - not by the police but the other protesters. Many protesters are just kids who go along with crowd behavior.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
Exactly. Half of the people there probably have no idea why they were there. But they made a sign that said something negative about Bush and now they fit in. They have no friends and need fellow traitors to survive.
motoboarder69 3 years ago
Maybe they should have a difficult job and would finally understand. But, if Portland keeps shelling out the money for the homeless ($58 million last year) they will have more nonsense.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
Haha welcome to Portland....
motoboarder69 3 years ago
That's right, go back to work, aim for those six figures above anything else, and stick your head in the sand. Don't protest, don't think, dont be critical, and don't be politically active.
That was probably the mantra of your average German citizen in the 20's and 30's.
We'll be a fascist, brainwashed, corporate-controlled murderous superpower in no time...
aewester 3 years ago
man even ninjas were protesting lol
DavidRectum 3 years ago
I remember walking in downtown Portland in my Marine uni and getting hated on by locals... made me sick.
goldlion2 3 years ago
Is that one guy in black supposed to be a ninja? What fun? How old is he - 10?
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
Oh, god. I am so grateful that my kids haven't turned out to be like these childish people.
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
You mean the "childish people" who were beating and macing a group of people who were exercising their first amendment rights, right??
Or are you trying to say that it's childish to vocally protest an illegal, immoral and uncalled-for war and crimes against humanity?
aewester 3 years ago
Grow up. I've been there and done that. Our country could really use support from it's citizens. Or is that too unhip for you?
AmericanBornWest 3 years ago
No way. I'll be supporting Ralph Nader all the way through his campaign.
I love the U.S., and that's why I hate the Bush administration, as well as most political power structures of this century.
aewester 3 years ago
You must not have traveled much. There's a big country called China - the citizens can't post to the interent and can't leave.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
That argument is garbage. I'm sure there were millions of people in europe during the dark ages saying the same thing-- that they should shut up because some other people have it even worse.
aewester 2 years ago
Still hate Bush?
Are you saying there were demonstrations in the Dark Ages?
You have the opportunity to apply and be a good cop. A perfect cop.
AmericanBornWest 2 years ago
M152008 AxEx!!!
DarknessUnresolved 4 years ago
It's amazing the amount ov ignorant, right-wing morons who keep coming here commenting. Obviously, many ov you idiots don't give a DAMN about your Rights!
M15 2008!
DarknessUnresolved 4 years ago
parade your ignorance like a badge.. go ahead!
smileycoyote 4 years ago
..and that is what you and many take for granted: that dissent be punished..you reveal your biases nicely
smileycoyote 4 years ago
Yeah, beaten on... you know, a point must have substance.
smileycoyote 4 years ago
..and EVERY single action that I have attended has ended in police-initiated riot so I have to assume that you and I have opposite luck or that something else lurks here.
smileycoyote 4 years ago
Typically, the first step towards a police state is to undermine the authority of legitimate independant institutions, such as the constabulary, and to demonise its members. At the same time the footsoldiers of the oppressor are encouraged to, and rewarded for, engaging in behaviour which in normal society would be unacceptable. Such as throwing rocks and verbally abusing and threatening officers.
utkonos313 4 years ago
What is really frightening is that the people wearing masks have subordinated themselves to a group identity and a cult of obedience. Obviously the masks are a symptom of thier low self esteem. All historic oppressors exploit the simple-mindedness of such people for thier own ends.
utkonos313 4 years ago
THEN MOVE! But wait... these protests are happening ALL OVER THE COUNTRY... so I guess you'll have to leave?
There are NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE THAT WILL NOT SEE!
dizzyskittlez 4 years ago
What will have to happen to you for you to WAKE UP? Them kicking your door in and dragging you off to a gulag? You no longer have ANY rights... NO RIGHTS.
If you are such a fan of what is happening ENLIST and bring my son home...NOW!
dizzyskittlez 4 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how ignorance flaunts itself. It used to be comical; now it's just a waste of time, energy, and a human.
smileycoyote 4 years ago
they threw rocks, bottles and other objects at police, they deserved it. except that lady sitting on the sidewalk who got kicked.
stevemcnabb 4 years ago
they threw NOTHING... they were set up by the police... I was there... GET A CLUE!
dizzyskittlez 4 years ago
DEFINITELY NOT a white power gathering...it couldn't have been farther from it.
MijoTheMonkey 4 years ago
Is that some sort of white power protest? I've noticed with these anti-war protesters they are very selective in which wars they are anti-. The rascists remained discreet silence when Rwanda happened, but as soon as a few whiteys get hurt they out bleating and whineing. The war in Iraq will continue whether US and its allies help the elected government there or no, but the protests will stop as soon as US pulls out. They are just stooges of the multinational alternative energy corporations.
utkonos313 4 years ago
My suggestion is that you continue to research.
smileycoyote 4 years ago
Don't what planet you've been visiting but the movement against the INVASION OF IRAQ has been going on for YEARS... Wake up! You no longer have ANY rights under the constitution. Bush has done away with ALL OF THEM!
dizzyskittlez 4 years ago
I wasn't there so I don't know but it appears that things get more out of control when the police step in. Its almost like they're looking for a riot.
Wbeliever7 4 years ago
It's too bad that you think that only someone who is liberal or leftist could possibly criticize police for attacking people that are standing around. I pity those that need to identify as either left or right but I know that there are plenty of people on the right side of American politics that stand against this kind of thing. Should you disagree, you only illustrate how isolated you are. Evidence of such is to be found en masse if you look.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
Re:smileycoyote (1 week ago) Stop tossing pearls at smelly swine.
lazydogs 4 years ago
I read a quote in the Portland Tribune that summed it up perfectly:
"Offensive behavior does not advance peace and justice in the world. Rather, it undermines the moral message of peace demonstrators. It leads people to believe that it's not possible to be both patriotic and opposed to the war in Iraq."
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
So, witnessing a demonstration is offensive, is it?
smileycoyote 5 years ago
The Flag and a Soldier fucked up the country? THEY ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB. As far as our Flag, if you don't want to respect it, and feel it should be burned...LEAVE OUR COUNTRY!
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
At the Nuremberg trials, where many Nazis were sentenced to imprisonment and death, it was decided that humanity does not stand for, "I was only taking orders." You champion hypocrisy by doing so. Let's not mention that soldiers are lied to to get them there.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
If you would side with fascism, tyranny, and the creed that there are people out their fighting for our right to shut the hell up, then get the hell out of my country, you nazi pig!
smileycoyote 5 years ago
You make me laugh smiley. Re-read what you wrote: "The soldiers are lied to to get them there" If they are lied to, it isn't their fault. Many call this war the Bush legacy. But last I checked it wasn't the Bush line who founded the country, who named a red white and blue flag, made for our morale, the Flag of our country. The red stripes wasn't Bush blood, it was the blood of our Patriots.
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
They are lied to and once there, there is a choice - bear the consequences and act according to morality once the truth is found out or take the easy route, collect your pay, and hate who you're told to.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
I don't see how my support of our troops, and this country makes me a Nazi. If this is YOUR country, why don't you enlist and volunteer to fight for it. Because obviously my passion and sacrifice for her means I should leave... in your humble opinion.
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
You would tell someone that was at a protest witnessing and standing on the sidelines to leave the country. She was attacked by police and the video is not ambiguous on this. If witnessing our tax dollars at work is unacceptable to you then it is indeed YOU that needs to go enlist in some Stalinist regime.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
I did my stint on the high seas, lady, and I was not fighting for the right of anyone to shut up. When people take a crap all over what I supported with my neck and imply that the right should not be used, I cringe. Perhaps it is you that needs to go and see what our military efforts are all about.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
Who told you I had not already been in the military. Whoever told you that and whoever is telling you that they know anything about me is lying to you; or are you lying to yourself. You assume much.
smileycoyote 4 years ago
YAY! At least Three of those anarchists (ones with mask or rags to cover their face) got their asses arrested. To the girl who was freaking out, why don't you freak out about The Flag Being burned? or about the dummy soldier in effigy being burned....
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
Thanks for bringing out into the open the innate anger that drives our opposition. We are all so dumped on as citizens and as people that most of us just turn around and pass it onto whoever our particular social group says it is okay to step on. I doubt very much that you really know the source of your anger, though I am sure you THINK you do.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
As far as why didn't she freak out from a flag being burned, maybe that burns a little less than an eye full of habanero juice dealt out to her for simply being there. Just where do you get off implying that she doesn't even have the right to observe her own tax dollars at work without being punished for it?
smileycoyote 5 years ago
I didn't imply anything. I asked about why she wasn't upset about the burnings, and what about the sign they carried saying "fuck our troops"? My husband is a soldier.
I'm sure the macing didn't happen to just random people standing there. It was provoked.
ArmyWife1104 5 years ago
A - You don't know that she wasn't upset about flag burning. B - You can see that she was just standing there when she was attacked. It is a sad fact that many are willing to believe what they are supposed to believe instead of what their own eyes tell them.
smileycoyote 5 years ago
Being a portlander it doesn't surprise me to hear of another occasion when police use excessive force on innocent people.
Our city is beautiful but the police are ugly.
glennid10t 5 years ago