This is the reason why you should show no mercy with you enemies, once you defeat them ,then the best thing to do kill them all with their wholes families, that's the only way of being sure that you will not need to fight them again.
"Kai su teknon" (greek) can also be something along the lines of "Curse you, boy!" because most Greek curses began with "Kai su" it all depended on how it was said
However, one thing that can be agreed on is that IF Ceasar did say something, it was more than likely directed at Brutus.
@DarkPrinceNH5570 I'm no Christian, only stupid people need religion, we may have idiots running right now, but so do you. Masons! Your a fuking joke that's why you will stay small. No matter how messed up we are here, we're still better than you.
@DarkPrinceNH5570 your an idiot stay in your country, we don't need ignorant retards that listen to there tvs and news papers, you don't know the first thing about amerika. You stay as the dog you are we'll invade you and take your women
I love it when Caesar was killed in such brutal manner. Despite what he had done for Rome, he still destroyed the legal basis that keep Rome together for such a long time.
Oh for you fucking retards in usa that need mental help and believe in religion in a whacked out way (forgive me Europe but usa is out of control on this).
I WORSHIP THE TEMPLE OF VULCAN!!! If you know what its about and how its used in a way. SO FUCK YOU USA
I would rather embarass the shit out of usa till they actually do something. Which they wont. They are not the brave or the best. They are the best to get used by homos. Their society is already fucked up. What more do you want to know? Might want to get rid of these amerikan scumbags that keep dragging others down in society. Im all for leaving usa to watch this empire get fucked over.
masons fuck everything up. I will kill every single guy that argues with me in disapproval in usa. I will look at it from their perspective but when I see their intentions. You are on amerikas most wanted for being a fucking retard and are not helping MANKIND!!!
To continue below, not only 13th was the BEST military unit of all Legions at this time (vets?) but people loved Ceasar? He knew how to put on a show (military victories and so on)?
Ceasar wasnt a tyrant. He had the APPROVAL of the military and the people who guarded the streets in rome? Well not the Urban cohorts just yet but the best military unit Rome or world ever seen at the time? Yes... the other families (Brutus and friends with Pomeii) wanted him out and were causing all kinds of bullsht and jealousy, hungry for power just as much as Ceasar was. Only difference is Ceasar was doing military on frontlines? ROME was a MACHINE like usa is. ROMAN WAR MACHINE?
He was warned it was going to happen during the ides of march (the 15th) by a seer, and by all of his adviser, wife. But it is said Brutus told him to ignore those claims and women's prattle and join the senate who were waiting for him. Indeed they had some thing special in mind... Rip Julius Ceasar.
I could be wrong but I'm very sure that Julius Caesar was killed on the steps of the Senate building and not how it was shown in this scene. But nonetheless it happened and it was gruesome.
my history is not up to scratch so I was not expecting this at all, quite a distressing scene as I really liked julius caesar and a character in this and the actor playing him
@ReaversPistol soldiers were not supposed to be in the senatt house-weapons either. It was supposed to be a place of talk, and reason compromise- a way to avoid violence. That is why the assassination was a betrayal- or the laws and customs of Rome, more than just a betrayal of Caesar
@7mikethebike Right. Normaly it was against the law that the soldiers were under arms were in the pomerium, you can say in the city. On the other thing, Caesar wasnt killed in senat house, curia. He cant´. Due to an accident at the public funeral of Publius Clodius Pulcher in 52 bc. The senat had thus meetingson diferent places. On the 15th of march 44 bc it was in theater of pompey on the fields of mars. And becouse the meeting was sacred they killed him before it started.
@ArcheoRexo true politicians. A technicality unties their hands to do mischief, and it is OK. We have the same problem in modern society. in Rome they appointed/elected officials who could order the execution of almost any citizen, as a safeguard against weaselry. Of course, that went corrupt also. No wonder wise people wash their hands of lawyers and politics. A judge is just a greasy lawyer with a robe on to hide the filth which resides on him.
@ReaversPistol What are you talking about. 15000 praetorian guard? At its absoute top it had 10 000 men, but that doesnt matter couse the guard was crated by Augustus. Before there were only praetorian cohorts at the time beeing counting nt more than 800 men. And even they cant enter the city not to mention to enter meeting of the senate.
I think the "Et tu Brute" was meant to be in the look Caesar gave Brutus while he lay in his own blood. That look seemed to say "My friend, you too?".
@inarisarp Et tu Brute was Caesar basically saying... Oh, if Brutus is doing this, it must be for a good cause because he was known to be the smartest man in Rome. That's the whole reason that they wanted Brutus in the group they were a part of because if he was in the group... The general republic would think it was for a good cause.
@OssaWoW I dont know a thing that sameone think that Marcus Iunius Brutu (younger) was smartest. They wanted him just becouse he was Brutus. Becouse his ancestor Lucius Iunius Brutus owerthrown the last king and created the republic. They just need him as a name not as a man.
Why Didn't Caesar have his own personnel Secret Service like a Legion right next to him so Caesar could taunt the Senate and bluntly say U think U can kill me LOL!
@1290001 rome probably wouldn't have been as great as it was under the roman empire after the collapse of the republic, because Octavian wouldn't have been the heir to Caesar, and Marc Antony wouldn't have been fueled to make the plebeians revolt. Just like Alexander the Great, if his father king Phillip wasn't murdered right before his eyes at his sisters wedding, then Alexander wouldn't have been driven to conquer the known world, and in both of these situations.
@1290001 rome probably wouldn't have been as great as it was under the roman empire after the collapse of the republic, because Octavian wouldn't have been the heir to Caesar, and Marc Antony wouldn't have been fueled to make the plebeians revolt.
@1290001 The same case with Alexander the Great and Phillip II. If Phillip wasn't murdered in front of Alexander at his sisters wedding, then he probably wouldn't have been driven to conquer Persia, and the name Alexander the Great would just be Alexander, and the world as we know it wouldn't be the same with both cases, Julius Caesar, and Phillip II.
@Stevenio No, according to Plutarch he was silent, but he pulled his toga over his face, because that was common for Roman noblemen to do if they knew they were going to die, and not in battle.
@snidesnidington Exactly. It's POPULAR. Not historically accurate. As an experiment, I'd like to stab you multiple times and see if you can utter anything while you lay on the floor, dying.
@snidesnidington Caesar never actually said "et tu Brute." Shakespeare wrote he did in his play, which was not accurate. However, some historians believe he said "Kai su, teknon?" translating to "You too, child?" The Roman historian Suetonius says he said nothing at all. But he never did say "et tu, Brute?"
@snidesnidington There are two historical theories on what Caesar did or did no say when he was slain. One is that he said those words, the other is he did not. Both are just as accurate as the other as both are taken from the remarks of the Senate themselves, some claim he said something others said he did not. Later in the episode Brutus is upset claiming "He tried to say something to me" I think they struck a balance between the two theories with that.
@Alk6239 excellent response...i did notice that Brutus did say that (to his mother i believe?) but i didn't put 2 + 2 together until you mentioned it.
@TurkishNationalism . Yes, I know, but I read that Shakespeare was inspired by historians and that there's a debate among them in History on if Cesar has said anything, if what he has said, if he could not say anything, and if he has offended Brutus or just said words of grief. I don't know if that is true. But I really missed the "et tu, Brute!"... ;o)
@guisreis lol me too! I think those words really underline the betrayal of Brutus and how that's one of the last thoughts that pass through Julius.C. as he dies.
los grandes hombres despiertan la injuria de los enemigos envidiosos, el hombre confiado esta perdido,solo asi pudieron acabar con uno de los mas grandes hombres romanos.
@mybluecat1 Yes. This scene literally made a tear come to my eye. I really felt for Caesar in this scene, it was sad to the level where it torments the soul that such a good man was betrayed... and the sadness in his eyes when the final jab came. *shakes head* Really was a loss for Rome.
@LadyCaricata I am honestly beginning to think that you need mental help. I am not trying to offend you anymore, I am honestly trying to help you. Your ideology makes no sense, and you seem to jump from hating one religon to another. You even seem to hate atheism. And Judaism. And Christianity. What are you, anyway? What is your stance in all this?
@LadyCaricata Your ignorance is sprouting not from your general knowledge of this giant conspiracy bullshit you're thinking of, but the reason you're sharing it in the first place. This is an accurate representation of Julius Ceaser's death. What problem do you have with it?
@LadyCaricata Facts. Riiiiight. Okay. Listen, tell you what, since Conspiracy Theorists lack thinking, I'm going to let you stay in your world of delusions while I get back to Planet Earth. Along with the rest of all sane human beings.
@LadyCaricata What the fuck just happened. The conspiracy theorist retard is making sense? What sorcery is this? Who are you and what have you done with LadyCaricata. One minute you're talking about some Jewish Alien Conspiracy and now you can successfully list all the things gone wrong with democracy? WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!
@LadyCaricata Jewish Supremacism? Okay. Right, and 9/11 was caused by bigfoot, the moon landings were staged by Elvis, and JFK was actually shot by shapeshifting reptilians from space.
@SpadaccinoLuciano Some say corruption was born when the Romans banned the last etruscan king from Rome... they betrayed the etruscans...after they made Rome "great" however we all know that corruption and those politics already existed, but Romans were capable of handling it... they knew that politics had a dark side and some things just had to be done if you wanted it... so blood wasn't such a problem.... (;P) so yes romans used the dark side of poitics, but for the greatness of Rome....
I had a dream i was a roman senator and i cicero was there. I cant remember if i saw him or if i was him... Never the less my dream looked very similar to this and yes we stabbed the tyrant to death. That part kept repeating. Every time he died it played back and back and back...
Immediately it was made propaganda and accepted by the people that Caesar spilled his blood for the people. Also, during his funeral, there was a comet witnessed by everyone and they associated it w/Caesar's resurrection. This was celebrated in roman coins immediately. Does the story sound familiar?
AHHHHH! Caesar was not murdered in the Curia Hostilia! (Senate House) He was assassinated in Pompey's Theatre, which had a room for the Senate in the back. They didn't always meet in the Senate House!
@historicalogicalness They didnt met always in curia. But they couldnt even if they wanted, in time of his death curia was under reconstruction becouse it was burned in 52 BC.
@historicalogicalness Basicly yes. But as far as i know the meeting took place right in the theatre. I cant find where would that back be? Behind scene?
@ArcheoRexo No, there was a sort of mini-curia off to the side, between the theatre itself and Pompey's villa. Also, (Moar errors, oh noes) all the other senators were outside in the courtyard when the assassination team attacked him, as the meeting wasn't scheduled to start for another 15 or so minutes minutes. Caesar was inside alone getting some extra work done.
@historicalogicalness Oh i see. You mean in the porticus pompeianae. Hm its not exactly small its three times larger than theather itself. I look now in excvation plan of that place. I know there should be some kind of closed building for meeting in eastern part near the sacred area, but there is nothing like that there. Hm i guess it couse of shity work of italian colegues, and the remains are there somewhere.
@stimsWonderland ET tu Brute? i belive the right roman words are " Tu quoque Fili mi" but again even that isn't right because in the roman senate they all spoke greek ^^
@MrRomulusenRemus Hmm i think were capable of speaking greek but not in the curia. Why would they, all of them proper roman senators of roman ancestry, why on earth would they speak greek. Of course they usu latin in senat meetings. If not by pure logic then take this three arguments. 1 Meetings of senate were sacred, and were part of the state religion. 2 All that was said in senat was taken in rolls and made public for people. 3 People of Rome loathed Greeks.
@ArcheoRexo ....well for 1 thing rome was buildt on greek and etruscan believes ;) and loathed?... well i don't agree... romans respected greeks as they were the best teachers for romans ofc some dislikes.... but thats just like england and the U.S. well... we'll never find out :P they are all dead ;) but still im sure that they spoke greek in the curia... but well lots of things aren't clear ;) like 80% thinks that Iulius Caesar was killed in rome while he was killed in Pompeii ;P
@MrRomulusenRemus Rome was build on etruscan and latin tradition. Greek influence went threough etruscans. And yes loathed, by general population couse greeks always thought that they are the best on earth. Abouth the greek in curia, any speech i ever read that take a place in senat meeting was in latin (like Oratio in Catilinam Prima in Senatu Habita). And please explain that about Caesar being in Pompei, never heard about that, and so curios . Id like to know .
@ArcheoRexo well many historians believe it was impossible that caesar was killed in rome because at the time caesar was killed (in the senate, during it). The curia was under construction, or renovations or somting like that ^_^ and they moved their "meetings" to the city "pompei" well again we never can be sure about all of this ;)
@MrRomulusenRemus Ohh i m quite sure about this. Yes the curia was under reconstructio couse it was burned down few years before. Senat meeting wasnt in Pompei. It was in the porticus pompeianae which was on the fields of mars, so de iure not in Rome couse it was extramuros. But de facto it was 15 minutes of walk from forum romanum (at least it 15 minutes today).
@ArcheoRexo ah well... xD idk i just love romans... still funny tho how they killed one dictator and forged an even bigger one... "Imperator Caesar Augustus" don't you love romans for all the blood ;P
@MrRomulusenRemus Well Augustus, as far as i know never held the dictature even if it was offered to him. He was even against continualitz of consulship. Well the blood is fine, but so is their culture, education, state structure, architectur and life philosophy.
@ArcheoRexo he did however took soldiers with him into the curia what was a huge..... ccan't find the right word :P well i think you know what i mean ^^
@MrRomulusenRemus ON what occasion did Augustus brought soldiers to the curia ? Or to the senate meeting. And word you were trying to find was sacriledge.
@MrRomulusenRemus It shown in series but wasnt like that. Consul was voted by comitia centuriata, and then it was approved by comitia curiata. But it true that that before the voting in comitia cenuriata there was at least one centurion in full arms, and he stated that either they will make octavian a consul or this (and he tapped the pommel of his sword) will. But this was couse he had 8 legions camped on the fields of mars :D and previous consuls were dead.
I WANT THIS SHOW BACK!!!!@! who cares if it was expensive...the US military spends 380 billion for killing people....cant we take 50 of that for another rome!!!!!!!
I never knew that "Et tu Brute" was just from Shakespeare until after I watched this. I was looking forward to it as well. Now that I understand, I like this much better. The brilliant acting of Cirian Hinds makes the words unnecessary. You can see it in his Eyes.
@Torus202 Well Shakespeare didn't exactly pull 'Et tu, Brute' out of his ass though. Suetonius record his last words as 'Kai su, teknon' ('You too, child' in Greek). Greek was the language of the learned back then, but by Shakey's time that role had been replaced by Latin, and 'Et tu, Brute' replicates the effect nicely.
Also, apparently 'you too, child, shall soon know the taste of power' was a common Greek proverb, so Caesar may simply have been saying, "Your turn next, kid" i.e. "fuck you"
@cainevagabond That did not actually happen. Shakespeare put those words in his book "Julius Caesar" and everybody seems to believe that it actually happened. He never said that.
@Slinkman22 Yes. It would like that. We cant use Shakespeare as historic source for the antiquty, damn it. I know that in one scene of Iulius Caesar there is scenic note, towerclock are beating the midnight. WTH towerclock in 44BC?
@cannabisabuser My mistake, It appears Julius didn't say anything after all. At the sight of Brutus during the conspiracy Julius was filled with grief and shielded his face from him with his toga (He might as well had said the words).
...that was more than 23 times.......
97mkh2 21 hours ago
@goosemaster720 shut the fuck up.
jezdog93 1 week ago
This is the reason why you should show no mercy with you enemies, once you defeat them ,then the best thing to do kill them all with their wholes families, that's the only way of being sure that you will not need to fight them again.
isarathai 1 week ago
this is so sad
mindlessjackson 1 week ago
@ballocoke That's a stupid argument, there's always a reason to argue the false!!!
MrSpqr84 1 week ago
0:22 "take your hand off me"
0:24 " No i wanna see something."
MrShadeviperx 2 weeks ago
"Kai su teknon" (greek) can also be something along the lines of "Curse you, boy!" because most Greek curses began with "Kai su" it all depended on how it was said
However, one thing that can be agreed on is that IF Ceasar did say something, it was more than likely directed at Brutus.
and that was your daily dose of history :D
deathbyfire135 2 weeks ago
in the begining did anyone else think that that one guy looked like he was carrying a machine gun
trickster3696 3 weeks ago
It's really sad.
goosemaster720 3 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 I'm no Christian, only stupid people need religion, we may have idiots running right now, but so do you. Masons! Your a fuking joke that's why you will stay small. No matter how messed up we are here, we're still better than you.
MrSpqr84 3 weeks ago
@MrSpqr84You said "only stupid people need religion". Some would say that stupid people argue about religeon via the internet..
ballocoke 2 weeks ago
@DarkPrinceNH5570 your an idiot stay in your country, we don't need ignorant retards that listen to there tvs and news papers, you don't know the first thing about amerika. You stay as the dog you are we'll invade you and take your women
MrSpqr84 3 weeks ago
Brutus:Ok. This will be pain free.
Caesar:....
Brutus:1,2,3! (stabs Ceasar)
Caesar:No fair! You had a knife!
Brutus:Crybaby.
Caesar:I just need to wipe this blood off my face. (attempts to wipe blood off face with shirt)
Wait. Is this puke or blood? (dies)
goosemaster720 1 month ago
Et tu brute?
koolerz28 1 month ago
I love it when Caesar was killed in such brutal manner. Despite what he had done for Rome, he still destroyed the legal basis that keep Rome together for such a long time.
greatheracle 1 month ago
@greatheracle
legal basis? once the oligarchy started illegally and extra judicially killing roman citizens there was no basis left
CiderJackson 2 weeks ago
To play politics in usa. They say on the arizona news you have to be christian??? HAHAHA
there is no christians in usa. They are all masons. If you arent part of a mason church (not the temples) you cant play politics.
Guess what Liberty? You can suck my dark prince dick. Along with your society!!!
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
Oh for you fucking retards in usa that need mental help and believe in religion in a whacked out way (forgive me Europe but usa is out of control on this).
I WORSHIP THE TEMPLE OF VULCAN!!! If you know what its about and how its used in a way. SO FUCK YOU USA
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
I would rather embarass the shit out of usa till they actually do something. Which they wont. They are not the brave or the best. They are the best to get used by homos. Their society is already fucked up. What more do you want to know? Might want to get rid of these amerikan scumbags that keep dragging others down in society. Im all for leaving usa to watch this empire get fucked over.
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
masons fuck everything up. I will kill every single guy that argues with me in disapproval in usa. I will look at it from their perspective but when I see their intentions. You are on amerikas most wanted for being a fucking retard and are not helping MANKIND!!!
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
To continue below, not only 13th was the BEST military unit of all Legions at this time (vets?) but people loved Ceasar? He knew how to put on a show (military victories and so on)?
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
Ceasar wasnt a tyrant. He had the APPROVAL of the military and the people who guarded the streets in rome? Well not the Urban cohorts just yet but the best military unit Rome or world ever seen at the time? Yes... the other families (Brutus and friends with Pomeii) wanted him out and were causing all kinds of bullsht and jealousy, hungry for power just as much as Ceasar was. Only difference is Ceasar was doing military on frontlines? ROME was a MACHINE like usa is. ROMAN WAR MACHINE?
DarkPrinceNH5570 1 month ago
Oh My God, someone save Caesar! Medic, MEDIC!
NgJackal1990 1 month ago
... then fall, Ceasar
travmatropizma 2 months ago
Luckily all 15-18 of the conspirers died three years later!!
iamgig9876 2 months ago
Could anyone have written a fiction better than this historical drama....Life is indeed stranger than fiction nay?
davehutchinson67 2 months ago
He was warned it was going to happen during the ides of march (the 15th) by a seer, and by all of his adviser, wife. But it is said Brutus told him to ignore those claims and women's prattle and join the senate who were waiting for him. Indeed they had some thing special in mind... Rip Julius Ceasar.
Moviefan137 2 months ago
There's evidence now that says he knew it was going to happen & let it.
KenMacMillan 2 months ago
The part when he spins to the music... Hahaha!
Moviefan137 2 months ago
Despite Caesar being admittedly one of the bad guys, the superb acting of this scene does make his death extremely poignant.
I think this pognancy is aided by the fact that it starts with a mild scuffle, and Caesar's ignorance of what is about to happen.
craigpsimpson 3 months ago
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craigpsimpson 3 months ago
I could be wrong but I'm very sure that Julius Caesar was killed on the steps of the Senate building and not how it was shown in this scene. But nonetheless it happened and it was gruesome.
oliviahorse101 3 months ago
this is not how he dies .....
adibaddie 3 months ago
and so dies yet another foolish dictator.
divinesleeper 3 months ago
my history is not up to scratch so I was not expecting this at all, quite a distressing scene as I really liked julius caesar and a character in this and the actor playing him
AdamTheEskimo 4 months ago
Of the 23 stabs only the second that punctured his lung was fatal. Man, i wish i could go back in time to meet Julius
Skylights44 4 months ago
He should have listened to wifey
trackgirl2187 4 months ago
that happens when you get to mighty ...
Oesterreich1156 4 months ago
where are his over 15,000 preatorion gaurds? lol
ReaversPistol 4 months ago
@ReaversPistol soldiers were not supposed to be in the senatt house-weapons either. It was supposed to be a place of talk, and reason compromise- a way to avoid violence. That is why the assassination was a betrayal- or the laws and customs of Rome, more than just a betrayal of Caesar
7mikethebike 4 months ago
@7mikethebike Right. Normaly it was against the law that the soldiers were under arms were in the pomerium, you can say in the city. On the other thing, Caesar wasnt killed in senat house, curia. He cant´. Due to an accident at the public funeral of Publius Clodius Pulcher in 52 bc. The senat had thus meetingson diferent places. On the 15th of march 44 bc it was in theater of pompey on the fields of mars. And becouse the meeting was sacred they killed him before it started.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo true politicians. A technicality unties their hands to do mischief, and it is OK. We have the same problem in modern society. in Rome they appointed/elected officials who could order the execution of almost any citizen, as a safeguard against weaselry. Of course, that went corrupt also. No wonder wise people wash their hands of lawyers and politics. A judge is just a greasy lawyer with a robe on to hide the filth which resides on him.
7mikethebike 4 months ago
@ReaversPistol What are you talking about. 15000 praetorian guard? At its absoute top it had 10 000 men, but that doesnt matter couse the guard was crated by Augustus. Before there were only praetorian cohorts at the time beeing counting nt more than 800 men. And even they cant enter the city not to mention to enter meeting of the senate.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
Et tu Brute? - And you Brutus?
soccerduder1 4 months ago
That was the best one so far! I just wish they made him die at the foot of the statue of Pompey like it was said, but overall the best!
hollysmokes671 4 months ago
thats not called being assassinated, thats called being gang bang
bb33nnii 4 months ago 4
I think the "Et tu Brute" was meant to be in the look Caesar gave Brutus while he lay in his own blood. That look seemed to say "My friend, you too?".
inarisarp 4 months ago
@inarisarp Et tu Brute was Caesar basically saying... Oh, if Brutus is doing this, it must be for a good cause because he was known to be the smartest man in Rome. That's the whole reason that they wanted Brutus in the group they were a part of because if he was in the group... The general republic would think it was for a good cause.
OssaWoW 4 months ago
@OssaWoW I dont know a thing that sameone think that Marcus Iunius Brutu (younger) was smartest. They wanted him just becouse he was Brutus. Becouse his ancestor Lucius Iunius Brutus owerthrown the last king and created the republic. They just need him as a name not as a man.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo Smartest, noblest... you got the moral of what I was trying to say, yes?
OssaWoW 4 months ago
Et tu Brute?
TheIcelandicPatriot 4 months ago
Why Didn't Caesar have his own personnel Secret Service like a Legion right next to him so Caesar could taunt the Senate and bluntly say U think U can kill me LOL!
1290001 5 months ago
@1290001 rome probably wouldn't have been as great as it was under the roman empire after the collapse of the republic, because Octavian wouldn't have been the heir to Caesar, and Marc Antony wouldn't have been fueled to make the plebeians revolt. Just like Alexander the Great, if his father king Phillip wasn't murdered right before his eyes at his sisters wedding, then Alexander wouldn't have been driven to conquer the known world, and in both of these situations.
easportselite22 5 months ago
@1290001 rome probably wouldn't have been as great as it was under the roman empire after the collapse of the republic, because Octavian wouldn't have been the heir to Caesar, and Marc Antony wouldn't have been fueled to make the plebeians revolt.
easportselite22 5 months ago
@1290001 The same case with Alexander the Great and Phillip II. If Phillip wasn't murdered in front of Alexander at his sisters wedding, then he probably wouldn't have been driven to conquer Persia, and the name Alexander the Great would just be Alexander, and the world as we know it wouldn't be the same with both cases, Julius Caesar, and Phillip II.
easportselite22 5 months ago
He never probably said it. That was just the famous Shakespeare dialogue
ThorFan4Life 5 months ago
Where is the "et tu, Brute." It is one of the most popular lines ever.
snidesnidington 5 months ago 17
@snidesnidington because thats from Shakespeare. Plutarch, an actual historian, says that Caesar said nothing when he was assassinated.
historicalogicalness 4 months ago
@historicalogicalness Well I'm assuming he said something like "why the fuck are you guys stabbing me?" Lol or maybe he just screamed.
Stevenio 4 months ago
@Stevenio No, according to Plutarch he was silent, but he pulled his toga over his face, because that was common for Roman noblemen to do if they knew they were going to die, and not in battle.
historicalogicalness 4 months ago
@snidesnidington In Caesar eyes....
ElGladiateur 4 months ago
@snidesnidington Exactly. It's POPULAR. Not historically accurate. As an experiment, I'd like to stab you multiple times and see if you can utter anything while you lay on the floor, dying.
tyrannasaurasalan 4 months ago
@snidesnidington It's an unspoken- but very much present- line. Watch as Caesar looks at Brutus as he approaches. You'll see it.
SamuraiJim87 3 months ago
@snidesnidington It's in Caesar's eyes
marineninga 3 months ago
@snidesnidington Caesar never actually said "et tu Brute." Shakespeare wrote he did in his play, which was not accurate. However, some historians believe he said "Kai su, teknon?" translating to "You too, child?" The Roman historian Suetonius says he said nothing at all. But he never did say "et tu, Brute?"
Khasery 3 months ago 7
@snidesnidington that was only in Shakespeare's play..sorry to tell you this but it probably never happened...
SGTBrian1 3 months ago 15
@snidesnidington
Because he didn't actually say it
gargarensi 3 months ago
@snidesnidington There are two historical theories on what Caesar did or did no say when he was slain. One is that he said those words, the other is he did not. Both are just as accurate as the other as both are taken from the remarks of the Senate themselves, some claim he said something others said he did not. Later in the episode Brutus is upset claiming "He tried to say something to me" I think they struck a balance between the two theories with that.
Alk6239 2 months ago
@Alk6239 excellent response...i did notice that Brutus did say that (to his mother i believe?) but i didn't put 2 + 2 together until you mentioned it.
ramirosan145 2 months ago
@ramirosan145 Yes, was straight after, when Brutus went to his mother to tell her that the deed had been done.
Alk6239 2 months ago
@snidesnidington It is there. In his eyes.
An0nEeMouse 2 months ago
@snidesnidington Besides, it's better silent. They don't need to state the betrayal. It's right THERE.
HMClearSkies 1 month ago
Ciaran Hinds! THE. BEST. EVER.
jgonnerman85 5 months ago
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la muerte para un traidor, debe ser lentamente con una frialdad que espante al mismisimo demonio,es decir sin misericordia.
artagnan62 5 months ago
la muerte para un traidor, debe ser lentamente con una frialdad que espante al mismisimo demonio,es decir sin misericordia.
artagnan62 5 months ago
didn't caeser accomplish all his conquests under the senates bidding then they do this to him?
euan777 5 months ago
I would look more dramatic with the words anyway.
Sharukkin 5 months ago
I missed the "et tu, Brute"! I was waiting for it!
guisreis 5 months ago
@guisreis because "et tu,Brute" was invented by shakespear...
TurkishNationalism 5 months ago
@TurkishNationalism . Yes, I know, but I read that Shakespeare was inspired by historians and that there's a debate among them in History on if Cesar has said anything, if what he has said, if he could not say anything, and if he has offended Brutus or just said words of grief. I don't know if that is true. But I really missed the "et tu, Brute!"... ;o)
guisreis 5 months ago
@guisreis lol me too! I think those words really underline the betrayal of Brutus and how that's one of the last thoughts that pass through Julius.C. as he dies.
Nicollie1062 5 months ago 2
los grandes hombres despiertan la injuria de los enemigos envidiosos, el hombre confiado esta perdido,solo asi pudieron acabar con uno de los mas grandes hombres romanos.
artagnan62 5 months ago
Brilliant acting by Ciaran Hinds in this series. The ultimate Caesar on screen.
mybluecat1 6 months ago 21
@mybluecat1 Yes. This scene literally made a tear come to my eye. I really felt for Caesar in this scene, it was sad to the level where it torments the soul that such a good man was betrayed... and the sadness in his eyes when the final jab came. *shakes head* Really was a loss for Rome.
aepceo1 6 months ago
this fight between LadyCaricata and LuckPalms/Killzoneguy117 is getting pretty intense
albinoclone 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata I am honestly beginning to think that you need mental help. I am not trying to offend you anymore, I am honestly trying to help you. Your ideology makes no sense, and you seem to jump from hating one religon to another. You even seem to hate atheism. And Judaism. And Christianity. What are you, anyway? What is your stance in all this?
LuckyPalms 6 months ago 4
@LadyCaricata Your ignorance is sprouting not from your general knowledge of this giant conspiracy bullshit you're thinking of, but the reason you're sharing it in the first place. This is an accurate representation of Julius Ceaser's death. What problem do you have with it?
LuckyPalms 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata stfu
DarkKing009 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata Facts. Riiiiight. Okay. Listen, tell you what, since Conspiracy Theorists lack thinking, I'm going to let you stay in your world of delusions while I get back to Planet Earth. Along with the rest of all sane human beings.
Killzoneguy117 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata What the fuck just happened. The conspiracy theorist retard is making sense? What sorcery is this? Who are you and what have you done with LadyCaricata. One minute you're talking about some Jewish Alien Conspiracy and now you can successfully list all the things gone wrong with democracy? WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!
Killzoneguy117 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata hbo not hollywood
DarkKing009 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata Can't tell if trolling Or just ignorant
LuckyPalms 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata Buddy, that is some really really sad trolling there. Please try a little harder.
Killzoneguy117 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata Oh, you're just a moron. K then.
LuckyPalms 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata Jewish Supremacism? Okay. Right, and 9/11 was caused by bigfoot, the moon landings were staged by Elvis, and JFK was actually shot by shapeshifting reptilians from space.
Killzoneguy117 6 months ago
And that children is why you don't fuck with democracy.
Killzoneguy117 6 months ago
@LadyCaricata This is depicting what happened to Julius Ceaser based on research. It is not even 'Hollywood' as you see it.
LuckyPalms 6 months ago
"Et Tu Brute" is not historical accurate !!!
its shakespeare`s version of caesars death!!!
TubeBillionaire 6 months ago
ave brutus !
TubeBillionaire 6 months ago
when Mark Anthony backed slowly out, I nearly lost my shit
Heneghan2k9 6 months ago
@Heneghan2k9 How so?
grimblebrumble17889 6 months ago
@grimblebrumble17889 I mean I nearly cried, ey?
Heneghan2k9 6 months ago
@Heneghan2k9 I just couldnt wait to see him get organised and go back to do the lot of them.
grimblebrumble17889 6 months ago
Is it just me, or did the "Politics" of the Roman Republic/Empire seem more like the "politics" of their Mafia decendents?
SpadaccinoLuciano 7 months ago
@SpadaccinoLuciano Some say corruption was born when the Romans banned the last etruscan king from Rome... they betrayed the etruscans...after they made Rome "great" however we all know that corruption and those politics already existed, but Romans were capable of handling it... they knew that politics had a dark side and some things just had to be done if you wanted it... so blood wasn't such a problem.... (;P) so yes romans used the dark side of poitics, but for the greatness of Rome....
MrRomulusenRemus 6 months ago
kai su teknon
lurconis666 7 months ago
lovely.
georgia00ful 7 months ago
I had a dream i was a roman senator and i cicero was there. I cant remember if i saw him or if i was him... Never the less my dream looked very similar to this and yes we stabbed the tyrant to death. That part kept repeating. Every time he died it played back and back and back...
Kreiderable 7 months ago
Oh Caesar, why didn't you surround yourself with fat people?
MakyoAkuma 8 months ago
Julius "cesar" deserved to die for his crimes.
olbodala 8 months ago
Darn, you should have put Mark Antony's reaction in it too.
Macca1969 8 months ago
i studied rome they were born with blood and died with blood
msnavy12 8 months ago
2:06 That face... There are no words for describe that he felt...
TheCelonius 8 months ago
I think he's dead...
jonny12384 8 months ago
Sic Semper Tyrannis!!! All hail the Republic!!! Long live Cassius and Brutus!!!
Dimefan91 8 months ago
@Dimefan91 u fool
HercegodSvetogSave 8 months ago
Thus always to tyrants
fvgdfbdokd 8 months ago
I invite you all my friends, to see videos with serious historical evidence. Just type 'Calpurnpiso'. May everyone have a good day.
FLAVIVSIVLIANVS 8 months ago
Immediately it was made propaganda and accepted by the people that Caesar spilled his blood for the people. Also, during his funeral, there was a comet witnessed by everyone and they associated it w/Caesar's resurrection. This was celebrated in roman coins immediately. Does the story sound familiar?
FLAVIVSIVLIANVS 8 months ago
saddest day of history. Caesar was not a tyrant. He's no more a tyrant than the likes of current politicians and leaders.
LordAkira 8 months ago 2
AHHHHH! Caesar was not murdered in the Curia Hostilia! (Senate House) He was assassinated in Pompey's Theatre, which had a room for the Senate in the back. They didn't always meet in the Senate House!
HISTORIAN RAGE
historicalogicalness 9 months ago
@historicalogicalness They didnt met always in curia. But they couldnt even if they wanted, in time of his death curia was under reconstruction becouse it was burned in 52 BC.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo .....Thats what I said.... read it again?
historicalogicalness 4 months ago
@historicalogicalness Basicly yes. But as far as i know the meeting took place right in the theatre. I cant find where would that back be? Behind scene?
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo No, there was a sort of mini-curia off to the side, between the theatre itself and Pompey's villa. Also, (Moar errors, oh noes) all the other senators were outside in the courtyard when the assassination team attacked him, as the meeting wasn't scheduled to start for another 15 or so minutes minutes. Caesar was inside alone getting some extra work done.
historicalogicalness 4 months ago
@historicalogicalness Oh i see. You mean in the porticus pompeianae. Hm its not exactly small its three times larger than theather itself. I look now in excvation plan of that place. I know there should be some kind of closed building for meeting in eastern part near the sacred area, but there is nothing like that there. Hm i guess it couse of shity work of italian colegues, and the remains are there somewhere.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo :0 You're doing my dream job....
historicalogicalness 4 months ago
@historicalogicalness And why are you not doing it ? :)
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
Ave, True to Caesar
MysticalMannequin 9 months ago
God dammit the best part is missing. At the End Brutus is screaming "Noooo"....
Porly62 9 months ago
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
Strateg68 9 months ago
@Strateg68 lmao!
21Sarabi 9 months ago
Of course Ceasar meant to say Et tu Brute, but it came out more like Screw you instead.
stimsWonderland 10 months ago 32
@stimsWonderland I thought it sounded more like GAHJASDFAHGASJDKFSAD, personally.
gregarious24 9 months ago 2
@stimsWonderland ET tu Brute? i belive the right roman words are " Tu quoque Fili mi" but again even that isn't right because in the roman senate they all spoke greek ^^
MrRomulusenRemus 6 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Actually they spoke proper latin.
aepceo1 6 months ago
@aepceo1 roman nobility spoke greek bro ;P i think im right for 99.99% :P
MrRomulusenRemus 6 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Depends on the era.
aepceo1 6 months ago
@aepceo1 and i think they did in that era :P
MrRomulusenRemus 6 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Hmm i think were capable of speaking greek but not in the curia. Why would they, all of them proper roman senators of roman ancestry, why on earth would they speak greek. Of course they usu latin in senat meetings. If not by pure logic then take this three arguments. 1 Meetings of senate were sacred, and were part of the state religion. 2 All that was said in senat was taken in rolls and made public for people. 3 People of Rome loathed Greeks.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo ....well for 1 thing rome was buildt on greek and etruscan believes ;) and loathed?... well i don't agree... romans respected greeks as they were the best teachers for romans ofc some dislikes.... but thats just like england and the U.S. well... we'll never find out :P they are all dead ;) but still im sure that they spoke greek in the curia... but well lots of things aren't clear ;) like 80% thinks that Iulius Caesar was killed in rome while he was killed in Pompeii ;P
MrRomulusenRemus 4 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Rome was build on etruscan and latin tradition. Greek influence went threough etruscans. And yes loathed, by general population couse greeks always thought that they are the best on earth. Abouth the greek in curia, any speech i ever read that take a place in senat meeting was in latin (like Oratio in Catilinam Prima in Senatu Habita). And please explain that about Caesar being in Pompei, never heard about that, and so curios . Id like to know .
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@ArcheoRexo well many historians believe it was impossible that caesar was killed in rome because at the time caesar was killed (in the senate, during it). The curia was under construction, or renovations or somting like that ^_^ and they moved their "meetings" to the city "pompei" well again we never can be sure about all of this ;)
MrRomulusenRemus 3 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Ohh i m quite sure about this. Yes the curia was under reconstructio couse it was burned down few years before. Senat meeting wasnt in Pompei. It was in the porticus pompeianae which was on the fields of mars, so de iure not in Rome couse it was extramuros. But de facto it was 15 minutes of walk from forum romanum (at least it 15 minutes today).
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo ah well... xD idk i just love romans... still funny tho how they killed one dictator and forged an even bigger one... "Imperator Caesar Augustus" don't you love romans for all the blood ;P
MrRomulusenRemus 2 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus Well Augustus, as far as i know never held the dictature even if it was offered to him. He was even against continualitz of consulship. Well the blood is fine, but so is their culture, education, state structure, architectur and life philosophy.
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo he did however took soldiers with him into the curia what was a huge..... ccan't find the right word :P well i think you know what i mean ^^
MrRomulusenRemus 2 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus ON what occasion did Augustus brought soldiers to the curia ? Or to the senate meeting. And word you were trying to find was sacriledge.
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo first official Recognition as consul in the curia, i believe it is even shown in the series not sure tho...
MrRomulusenRemus 2 months ago
@MrRomulusenRemus It shown in series but wasnt like that. Consul was voted by comitia centuriata, and then it was approved by comitia curiata. But it true that that before the voting in comitia cenuriata there was at least one centurion in full arms, and he stated that either they will make octavian a consul or this (and he tapped the pommel of his sword) will. But this was couse he had 8 legions camped on the fields of mars :D and previous consuls were dead.
ArcheoRexo 2 months ago
@ArcheoRexo close enough for me ;)
MrRomulusenRemus 2 months ago
if you think yourselves in those of senators place you too would hage ceasar
Starshina89 10 months ago
I WANT THIS SHOW BACK!!!!@! who cares if it was expensive...the US military spends 380 billion for killing people....cant we take 50 of that for another rome!!!!!!!
1939dannyboy 10 months ago 13
@1939dannyboy lmao! 50 billion for a tv show? :P
MilchSir 9 months ago
ROME was an absolutely fantastic show.
My heart sank when I was on the last episode of the second and ultimate season.
The historical facts pop-ups on the dvds were extremely interesting, brilliant idea!
amazingdany 10 months ago
disturbing
GoneDead3 10 months ago
I never knew that "Et tu Brute" was just from Shakespeare until after I watched this. I was looking forward to it as well. Now that I understand, I like this much better. The brilliant acting of Cirian Hinds makes the words unnecessary. You can see it in his Eyes.
Torus202 10 months ago
@Torus202 I meant "Ciaran Hinds" sorry
Torus202 10 months ago
@Torus202 Well Shakespeare didn't exactly pull 'Et tu, Brute' out of his ass though. Suetonius record his last words as 'Kai su, teknon' ('You too, child' in Greek). Greek was the language of the learned back then, but by Shakey's time that role had been replaced by Latin, and 'Et tu, Brute' replicates the effect nicely.
Also, apparently 'you too, child, shall soon know the taste of power' was a common Greek proverb, so Caesar may simply have been saying, "Your turn next, kid" i.e. "fuck you"
Doryphoroi 9 months ago
This is so sad! Caesar did not deserve this death. The senators were butchers in this death and they all deserved what happened to them.
Hail Caesar! Those who are about to die salute you!
Slinkman22 10 months ago
where is the words "Et tu,Brute?":(
cainevagabond 10 months ago
@cainevagabond That did not actually happen. Shakespeare put those words in his book "Julius Caesar" and everybody seems to believe that it actually happened. He never said that.
Slinkman22 10 months ago
@Slinkman22 so does exist any movie when caesar tells this words or video something if anybody knows pls prv me...
cainevagabond 10 months ago
@cainevagabond Presumably, the movie version of Shakespear's 'Julius Caesar' - with Antony played by Marlon Brando, no less.
gyrofoam1 10 months ago
@Slinkman22 WOW makes sense its like he said it with his eyes an not in words....
blacklion105 10 months ago
@Slinkman22 Yes. It would like that. We cant use Shakespeare as historic source for the antiquty, damn it. I know that in one scene of Iulius Caesar there is scenic note, towerclock are beating the midnight. WTH towerclock in 44BC?
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
The only part they missed was the last words of Julius Caesar: Et tu, Brute? (You too, Brutus?)
2ricardo96 10 months ago
@2ricardo96 Good, because that's Shakespearean fiction.
cannabisabuser 10 months ago
@cannabisabuser My mistake, It appears Julius didn't say anything after all. At the sight of Brutus during the conspiracy Julius was filled with grief and shielded his face from him with his toga (He might as well had said the words).
2ricardo96 10 months ago
and you shoulda included the part with mark antony walking in, and leaving in disgust
and brutus crying
cowfordflorida1 10 months ago