The Mormon Success that Riles Antimormons 2/2

[BornAgainstMormons]

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[omiolo]

I sometimes regret the fact that we use the word "faith" in

religious discussions.

Why? Because I think it's become a technical term that obscures for

many what should be and is a very simple concept. This has created

serious controversies and unnecessary misunderstandings.

[omiolo]

On Saturday morning, a group of volunteers from the Bismarck Church

of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints showed up to help. And wow,

did they help.

They dug right in without a gripe, a smile on their faces and

totally committed to helping total strangers. They were awesome.

[BornAgainstMormons]

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[omiolo]

LDS Church Sets Family Values Award Event, October 20, 2011

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo Mormon Christians care about families.

[omiolo]

Try as I might to pull down classroom walls to capture the sights and sounds of old Nauvoo, there is no substitute for being there. Browsing through photographs of the Nauvoo Temple, the Mansion House or the restored Webb Brothers' Blacksmith Shop can never take the place of walking the streets of the historic city or pausing to read the personal accounts on Parley Street "reader boards," such as:

[omiolo]

Ten places not to miss in Nauvoo

By Susan Easton Black

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo A book or essay?

[treehuggertwo]

Utah has the highest rate of anti-depressant use among women in all of the United States. It also ranks high in personal bankruptcy. Smells like success to me.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@treehuggertwo Utah has the highest rate of anti- Mormons. Thank you for explaining their lack of success.

[treehuggertwo]

@BornAgainstMormons Highest per capita antidepressant use, highest per capita rate of personal bankruptcy, higherst per capita and overall population of LDS. Go figure.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@treehuggertwo Mormon Christians are some of the most educated, happy people in the United States. To blame us for the state of ex- Mormons and anti- Mormons (see my many videos on the such), is a willful misrepresentation.

[treehuggertwo]

@BornAgainstMormons Gee my reply did not get posted. Milk before meat.  Some truths are not very useful.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@treehuggertwo Let me know when you can start posting truthful representations about Mormon Christians.

[omiolo]

..Mormon church media relations manager Scott Trotter said many missionaries were experiencing travel delays getting to and from Europe. "They are staying in their current areas and missionary training centers until the travel restrictions are lifted and flights are reschedu

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo Why Europe?

[omiolo]

Quoting former LDS Church President Ezra Taft Benson, Bednar talked about the concern that LDS members would become victim to to much prosperity and wealth.

He also talked about the need for church members to be awake to their duties in the church and not to succumb to a “spiritual snooze,” through the omission of these duties.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo This fits in well with this video.

[BornAgainstMormons]

The windows of heaven are open to those who will accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and join the Mormon Church.

[awolLDSasap]

@BornAgainstMormons Jesus wants people to join a theocratic cult where freedom and liberty are ripped away and replaced with authority? NEVER

[BornAgainstMormons]

@awolLDSasap You come off as bitter.

[awolLDSasap]

@BornAgainstMormons Truth is harsh. Authority and law? Impossible. / / before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. And be found in him, not having MINE OWN righteousness, which IS OF THE LAW, but that which is through THE FAITH of Christ, the RIGHTEOUSNESS which is of God BY FAITH:

[BornAgainstMormons]

@awolLDSasap Hate is harsh. Bitterness is even worse. Love builds and uplifts.

[treehuggertwo]

@BornAgainstMormons How is it I KNOW that you are not paying John Denver's estate for using this tune. Downloading it from itunes DOES not give you the rights to use it here.  Typical Mormon behavior, sanctimonious while you cheat someone else. The number of times 'temple worthy' people put their after the temple things on youtube and then the music is removed because they had no permission. Temple worthy but stealing.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@treehuggertwo Your sincerity and altruism deserves the type of karma I am sure you are use to receiving.

[awolLDSasap]

@BornAgainstMormons Joseph Smiths gospel discounts, even denies the Word of God. Mans authority cannot save anyone. It is impossible for man.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@awolLDSasap You willfully misrepresent God's servant the Prophet Joseph Smith and the word of God as revealed through him.

[treehuggertwo]

@BornAgainstMormons I was at an F&T today, and there was NO mention of Jesus Christ at all.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@treehuggertwo That is untrue.

[omiolo]

AMERICAN FORK, UTAH

July 17 combined all the elements of a nearly perfect Saturday morning for David L. Beck.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo What elements entail a nearly perfect Saturday morning?

[omiolo]

Nine pallet-loads of donated blankets, clothes, shoes, toys and school supplies are heading for orphanages in Africa, thanks to the overwhelming response to a service project by youth of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[omiolo]

IPSWICH rugby league star Lagi Setu is about to do what most Queenslanders could never imagine, quit a lucrative career in the NRL to volunteer in an impoverished country for two years.

The humble and deeply religious Setu will embark on a Mormon mission to a yet to be decided location.

[omiolo]

"I think the Day of Service projects have a great impact on the community," said Mark Brown, president of the Miami South Stake. "While it's true that we do help to improve the physical aspects of the community, I think the most important and longest lasting difference we make comes from the friendships we develop. As we work together with others we learn to understand, appreciate and love one another."

[omiolo]

Cebu City, Philippines 16 May 2010 The public is invited to tour the newly completed Cebu City Philippines Temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the first temple in the Visayas and the second in the country.

[omiolo]

Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints first arrived in British Columbia in 1875. Church growth was slow at first but has steadily increased. Now some 22,000 Church members from 91 congregations located in British Columbia and northern Washington state will be served by the Vancouver British Columbia Temple. A total of nearly 180,000 Latter-day Saints live in Canada.

[BornAgainstMormons]

@omiolo 180,000 Saints is not enough, but the branch is still tender.

[omiolo]

"We need everyone — the tired or worn out or lazy, and even those who are bound down with guilt, must be restored through repentance and forgiveness," he said. "Too many of our priesthood brethren are living below their privileges and the Lord's expectations."

Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve, said he was following his "father-son" instructions of last conference with directives Saturday to mothers and daughters.

[omiolo]

Acknowledging he was speaking particularly to fathers, President Boyd K. Packer, president of the Quorum of the Twelve, explained the difference between priesthood authority and priesthood power, with the latter needed to help bless and protect homes and families.

[omiolo]

As I gazed out over our sector, the entire community was pitch dark, beautifully lit by the full moon, it was eerily quiet. There was a big cloud of dust settling over La Pintana. Much to my surprise I did not see any fully collapsed houses, no fires that broke out, nor did I hear people freaking out in the streets. My heart settled a bit.

[omiolo]

I went down stairs [and] instructed the other elders to get dressed because we were going to go out and check on members in our area or to see if anybody needed help.

[omiolo]

Elder Derrick Zamora-Orozco, (Chile Rancagua Mission): "As I made my way to our front window I remember the feeling very clearly... the same feeling I had when I was 5 years old in 1989 during the Loma Prieta earthquake in San Francisco. It was then that I got a really frightening image of what to expect when I looked out the window!!

[omiolo]

That matches the description of Thomas S. Monson, who in 1990 was second counselor to Benson and today is the church's president.

Below the death threat, the sender wrote: "Shouldn't of cheated & etc / I GET YOU."

[omiolo]

The letter opens with, "You damn old Devils." Then the sender wrote "Hinkley" and a second name. The FBI redacted the second name, citing privacy concerns, but FBI documents say the second person also was a member of the LDS First Presidency.

[omiolo]

"When I came home, I met the missionaries my family had told me about," said Elder Hesbon O. Usi. "I wished to see how they worshipped, so I went to Church. Right from the time I visited Church I asked questions. I had a feeling this Church is different, so I learned more."

[omiolo]

That requires righteous living; it requires faith in the powers of Jesus Christ, but it can be done. I know positively that is true. If he had power over our agency, he would have used it long ago. That ought to give you a lot of courage when things look difficult around you and when temptations come. Just turn them down. He has no power over a righteous person."

[omiolo]

Or maybe it's the peg leg worn by the man who at age 6 lost his limb in a mining explosion in Wales. As an adult, he walked the Great Plains of North America with his wife, limping on a wooden leg that left his stump so painful and bloody that he couldn't sleep at night. Instead, he filled his journal with westward-trek worries of other physical toils -- those suffered by his wife, who was pregnant with their first child.

[omiolo]

Perhaps it's the christening gown so carefully crafted by the young woman crossing the Atlantic Ocean a century and a half ago. She was anxious to rejoin her fiance, who had gone ahead to the Great Salt Lake Valley and homesteaded in Coalville. Once the two were reunited and married, the christening gown eventually was worn by not only the woman's children and grandchildren but her great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren as well -- 86 descendants in all.

[omiolo]

Mormon Times has called on Latter-day Saints, some who live as far from Salt Lake City as the map will take them, to broaden the story of the Mormon pioneers.

[omiolo]

So in the global church vernacular, the upcoming Pioneer Day holiday on July 24 may be just the marker for the beginning of an era that will not be exhausted as long as the church and its members continue to find new frontiers.

[omiolo]

LDS Family Services redesigned the site to add more in-depth information and resources, as well as to improve its aesthetic appeal and organization. They segmented the Web site to reach four key audiences: expectant parents and their families, couples who are hoping to adopt, professionals, and Church leaders.

[JuanChase]

I attended the NZ YSA Conference early this year, and we had Brother Wilcox as the guest speaker...he blew all of us away with that story. You can feel the spirit in the auditorium. It was awesome.

[omiolo]

Brad Wilcox, an associate professor in the department of teacher education, was recently appointed co-editor of a well-known scholarly journal, Literacy Research and Instruction, now in its 50th year of circulation

[omiolo]

"I really pity people who are bitter about the church."

yeah, I really do NOT get bitterness and hate. They are wasted emotions, that ONLY lessen a person. The adversary wins!

[howjos]

I can't just imagine Brad getting this question and thinking to himself, what a great opportunity to share with this gentleman about the blessings he can share with his family. - From my experiences with him I am sure he would have handled the question brilliantly.

[yoOfelia]

Love the content, and the title is very attractive, but the marquee....it's hard on the eyes, and borderline cumbersome; almost like you don't want the casual browser to stay and read...

[BornAgainstMormons]

nobody is perfect

[faanunu]

@BornAgainstMormons I liked it...

[omiolo]

Millions of Evangelicals will quit. Thousands of ministries will end. Christian media will be reduced, if not eliminated. Many Christian schools will go into rapid decline. I'm convinced the grace and mission of God will reach to the ends of the earth. But the end of evangelicalism as we know it is close.

[Estaban333]

I notice you say "Christian media" will be reduced - so you admit that you are not Christian! Halleluljah!! - can I quote you? (Don't worry, I will anyway). Your pathetic little 'church' is about to wither away - not Christianity.

[omiolo]

I was quoting youtube style a very famous article.

NO need to jump to conclusions like that. It almost shows a sense of desperation and wishful thinking.

[omiolo]

Brad Wilcox, an associate professor in the department of teacher education

[GiftoAll]

There are bad things that come from not being a member also. Like not getting that job you wanted because you are not LDS if you live within Salt Lake City or happy valley. Like being shunned or criticized if you mention that you are exmormon or Presbyterian. LOL!

[BornAgainstMormons]

Maybe if you were hard workers that would change.

[GiftoAll]

I know the good old boy network and even witnessed it while I was in the church. Some would even go to the extreme to make sure the individual they contracted for the job was a full tithe payer. HA! And then there is "let me see your tax returns because I think you are a liar." This perfection thing has gotten outa control. It never was like this in the earlier days.

[omiolo]

"Like being shunned or criticized if you mention that you are exmormon"

so you continually throw stones at the Mormons and then play the victim?

Where do you come up with this?

[GiftoAll]

Pretty good stuff huh? I got all of this from the same mormon playbook of persecution that you have been taught. Provide the persecution and then you can use it to align yourself with Christs persecution.

[omiolo]

"Provide the persecution"

like the recent vandalism, terrorism and threats concerning the recent passing of Prop 8?

Nice how we got the FBI, Police, and Homeland Security to align themselves with us too?

[GiftoAll]

Daily, the LDS brethren are trying to prove that the teachings of Joseph Smith aren't weird and the church stands for something. I think they blew it and made alot of people mad with prop 8. Nice name dropping though, FBI, Homeland security. It's too bad that more famous people haven't joined the church so the PR department would have something to do..

[omiolo]

"the LDS brethren are trying to prove that the teachings of Joseph Smith"

The doctrine given through Joseph Smith is located in LDS Holy Scriptures. That is where our beliefs are resonated.

[omiolo1]

There are many good things that come from being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

But yes, salvation is the end product!