MM supports its information with facts and video ? the Acorn story had facts and video, umm guess those dont count. ? LOL . are you guys for real ? They entertained the thought of SELLING kids! Does that not bother you? No Breitbart does, you've got your priorities screwed up.
@1969floridagirl They entertained the thought of selling kids? My god they were showing the people how to get tax breaks and legally sell children. Media matters is left wing propaganda and deserves to lose their non profit status.
@1969floridagirl breitbart heavily edited those tapes which is what he does best so he can mix-up the truth and support his lies. every government agency that looked at those tapes came to that conclusion. get your facts straight.
ACORN is nothing but a criminal organization. I can't believe people are actually defending an organization that advises people on how to evade paying income tax, run a brothel without being caught and how to smuggle underage Hispanic girls into the country to be used for prostitution. Do you really condone this activity or are you just so partisan that no matter how vile and disgusting an organization acts, as long as they are Democratic then they will not be criticized?
Here's the bottom line. Bill O'Reilly has championed Jessica's Law in many states which is really hard on sexual predators. Glenn Beck out Breitbart and Giles and O'Keefe on to expose corruption in an organization very very very close to the administration for which Giles and O'Keefe probably deserve a Pulitzer.
Now list me out the accomplishments of Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews. Besides continual crying about George Bush. MSNBC is junk media.
@drhu that organization that you talk about has been cleared of any wrongdoing. even by the brooklyn DA. now please tell me why o keefe cant leave his out without the permission of federal law enforcement. which he totally deserves
And the reason they were cleared of wrongdoing was because there were (literally) hundreds of other videos made by O'Keefe showing the vast majority of ACORN reps throwing him out or calling the police.
If he was interested in journalism in the slightest he's have released these earlier, and used the whole exercise as an attempt to bring two immoral workers to justice.
Instead it was proven that the whole exercise was a smear tactic. Pulitzer? Maybe shoved up his ass.
@mic187x2 Oh scuse me I forgot when it's liberals it's not corruption. You guys are so corrupt you don't even know it when you see it.
Acorn was and is completely corrupt and everyone knows it. Course you aren't supposed to mention it and the media will ignore it like they tries to do because it was liberals. Plain and simple.
i'm not a liberal . i look at things from a non partisan point. i just wonder why attack acorn when it's always been democratic/left leaning for years. i still say it's because they helped elect a black president. once again how is it that mr o keefe cant leave his house without permission. karma is beautiful.
I was only being facetious; by using idiotic right-wing talking points! I'm in total AGREEMENT w/you that health-care should be a human-right but dumbed-down righties think it's "big-government/socialism."
@cherubrock19871990 Oh.. but the human right of health care would be so "socialist." Here in (God-Bless) America you just have to pull your own weight; and you can't expect a "big-government handout" ugh...sigh..
Health care is not a right. You need to do some self education and learn what rights are. You progressives are the ones hurting our country. We are trying to keep America true to its foundation.
Where in the hell did I say the GOP is good? They are just as bad as the left. Screw the parties. I am a Libertarian. We are the only ones who actually stand up for what this country stands for.
@ericdahlen Oh but calling 911 for a cop or fire protection IS a right ( to protect property for example)?!!? As a typical right-winger, your "values" are screwed up.
Police and The Fire Departments we have are not rights. Again think about what you are saying before you speak. Both are necessities. Police protect you from me and me from you. Fire is obvious. We all pich in and all get the benefit no matter class. Don;t get me wrong there is corruption in all of it and it has to be stopped.
@ericdahlen Hmm. we pay taxes for the "necessity" to have public police & fire protection. But basic health-care is NOT a human necessity?! So the 50,000 folks who DIE each year due to lack of health-care are ..what...dying due to a lack of some uneeded luxary?? As you say why can't "we all pitch in and all get the benefit no matter class".
For the people that have died due to not being able to afford to see a doctor, it's not 50.000 a year mind you, health care is a necessity for them. But in order to help them you must force a doctor to help them for free. Therefore it cannot be a right. If everybody wanted to pitch in together would work great but the government cannot force us to. And you cannot force me too. Set up a group and see if everybody would pitch in and run with it, Hope it works.
No, we don't need to force doctors to treat people. Do other industrialized nations force doctors to treat patients? And do you think an insured person who gets medical treatment and cannot pay is getting it for free?? The cost is passed on to ALL of us! I guess you don't understand the concept of a public system (like Medicare). And you contradict your own argument.
First off dude those other countries don't have OUR RIGHTS. They forcibly take from all there people to pay those doctors. Second insured people who get treated pay there premiums and don't have to pay. It is not free. Do you even read what you write. I understand it fully, it is you my friend that don't.
What rights? Oh.. the right to die from lack of health-care or be denied coverage or just be gouged by greedy insurance companies ...did you hear that Health Point in CA is raising rates by 40%?? Dude, I'd rather have other nations' rights (human rights) than the neandrathal rights folks like you believe in.
Are you seriously telling me you don't think the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to protest a corrupt government are nothing and you would trade them for community health care? CA is the worst state we have. That's why I don't live there. There are ways to bring down costs without giving up freedoms or becoming a slave to the fed's or the state. Get government out! Don't you see anything they touch gets more expensive the more they get involved?
Do you donate to the fire department? If you don't and your house catches fire I feel it should burn to the ground and you should have to cover the costs. Why should I have to pay for a fire department to protect your home? I could pay for private fire protection and police protection.
I don't think security is a luxury offered in the constitution either.
If you are advocating that we should have no police then you are either for anarchy or military rule. Yes you can hire personal protection but the middle class and below can not. Equal protection under and from the law is provided in the Constitution.
We have a fire department so when your house catches on fire on the other end of the block it doesn't burn the rest of ours down too.
No I'm not for getting rid of the police, I'm for privatizing them. As in the people that can afford the luxury of protection and safety that police and investigations into crime provide. What I'm not for is letting a bunch of freeloaders have police and fire protection, or public education, roads, and just about anything else that makes a livable life possible.
If you don't have the money for it you don't deserve it.
So let me get this straight. I pay for my own security. Who enforces the law? Now seeing I am protected and the guy down the block has no security all I have to do is go down there and take over, right? The way you speak you sound like a war lord. That is exactly why we cannot privatize the police.
as for government education I would love to quit paying taxes for it. We all need the roads and we could not build enough private roads in an effective manner to support an economy of our size. I do agree there are tons of things we could stop wasting our money on that our government forces us to.
Still find it interesting that it took Breitbart accusing shuster to his face to get him to admit that he had overstepped the bounds of journalism by passing judgement on O'Keefe without waiting on the facts.
He made accusations that were simply false and that is slander, not journalism.
Yea, we should all listen to government funded MSNBC. GE, the parent company of MSNBC, received massive amounts of the stimulus and sweetheart contracts.
the lack of prosecution of alleged acorn abuses isn't proof of innocence
keep in mind that neither bush nor cheney were held accountable under the law for abuses violating domestic and international law that they themselves admitted to
I was going to say the same as fishhead06, but your right about Bush and Cheney. The problem is that those videos didn't contain anything illegal, so all is allegations and nothing is decided. The assumption of innocence is peremptory, but with Bush/cheney they did everything they did in plain sight. Olbermann put it together for everyone to see, as did Maddow.
You have got to see the video of Bill O' Reilly and Paul Krugman on CNBC being interviewed by the late "and great" Tim Russert. When Paul drops the name "Media Matters," Bill just flips out and says, "Why don't I call up some clan operation? Why don't I just call the Klu Klux Klan?" Very funny to see Bill be as ignorant as he is when trying to dress down the validity of a website like Media Matters 4 America.
Liberals ARE the racists. They're the ones who support the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, Tawana Brawley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, quota systems, affirmative action, rap music, the race card, and Chris "I didn't know Obama was black" Matthews.
@StoogeWatcher, How does the duke rape have anything at all to do with race? Neither do any of these things... Unless you are talking about racism towards white people. Which is a bullshit argument. All (or 99.9%) of the hicks in the KKK vote for republicans. so stfu up with your 'demoKKKrat' that makes absolutely no sense
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are political activists who've gained wealth and fame by stirring up racial animosity and strife. They show up on the scene whenever a dispute has racial aspects they can exploit. The mere fact Jackson and Sharpton showed up to raise hell in the Duke Lacrosse case shows the case was all about race and not much about rape. Obviously, you think racial animosity and strife are good things or you wouldn't be trying to excuse these two jackasses.
You are surely not saying that one set of injustices excuse the creation of another whole set of injustices, are you? Because that's what Jackson and Sharpton were trying to do. In fact, Jackson automatically assumed the Duke students were guilty of rape and was ready to railroad them to state prison. And Jackson and Sharpton have yet to apologize for their incendiary actions.
Liberals were defending the lying black whore, saying that the lacrosse players were "rich white boys getting away with rape." Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton defended the liar. Blacks can get away with being racist bigots. They can't succeed on their own, so they play the race card and demand quota systems like affirmative action.
StoogWatcher, you are pathetic. Look at how many comments you are leaving. Desperate much? And no, I don't think the Duke players are rapists and never did.
I absolutely ADORE Eric Boehlert!!!! Thank you, & all the good folks at MediaMatters, for all your good work!!
I also thinks its HILARIOUS that Breitbart attempts to use the same defense that ACORN did when hit with the videos. Andy, O'Keefe etc, all maligned ACORN for stating that "we dont know all the facts, the videos dont seem to tell the whole story, we cant rush to judge"... I just think its GREAT that Karma has forced them to the same level... over a REAL crime, not a made-up one.
Fox news encourages these lone wolf idiots but when they get busted they you cannot draw a direct line back to them. The same goes for the violent teabagger types. They want them to act but won't take any of the blame.
or any accountability for the crap they say or do!!!! Accountability on a multitude of levels is a EXTREMELY foreign concept to these people...to the point where you shrug it off as typical!
There were FOUR guys arrested, not one! Who was paying these guys? Follow the money , it probably leads back to Breibart. That would account for the loud BS.
It has already been proven to lead back to Breibart. He's funded by BigPharma and the Health Insurance cartel. It don't take much to connect the dots.
Liberals don't hate Big Pharma and health insurance companies because they've taken money from their lobbyist friends, including Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle.
Actually Beck mentioned it and somewhat condemned O'Keefe and called him stupid. Other than that it's been pretty much ignored by Faux News. Strange, considering they couldn't seem to air the "pimp" video often enough.
Fox news won't mention this case until they have something to snag onto that makes it look like Keefe is innocent so they can slant it to make it look like democrats are enforcing an evil, socialist, police state.
Trust me, there's a story coming from Fox, they just have to generate the right spin behind it to make it grab hold of their audience.
They mentioned it immediately as breaking news. That said, they immediately started to say that it must be put into "context" before any judgement is made.
The puppeteers that actually control the government LOVE it when u fall into trap of supporting one party, either repub or dem., in this false dichotomy. They want u to be sidetracked by the "distinctions" of the two party's cuz whatever party appears to hold power, they actually do because they control the parties.
@EuphasiaC While I agree that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is - much of the time - a false dichotomy, don't you think it's equally unproductive to actively believe in some monolithic group of mystery puppeteers? While our governmental deadlock definitely benefits those who want the status quo, I have trouble with the notion of a nefarious group of ne'er-do-wells smoking pipes and cigars in some high-rise office building manipulating American society behind the scenes.
And who the hell do you think you're promoting? Kucinich/Fiengold may be Progressives, but they don't have enough clout WITHOUT Democrats! I think you're being EXTREMELY naive to think otherwise.
Look the Democrats have a big enough tent for everyone...don't go all "teabagging" on us and start fractioning off. I agree with a lot of what Kucinich says and love his passion behind it...but realistically he wouldn't stand a chance without Democrat support. That's just FACT!
Dennis generally doesn't have the support of Democratic 'leadership'. He was sandbagged in the Democratic debates and primaries, and banned from debating in a televised debate in Nevada even though he qualified for the requirements the hosts had. They threatened to run someone against him in his district if he didn't toe the party line. Dennis is a Dem solely for his constituents' sake, because the party has screwed him.
that sounds like the same BS any Alex Jones/conspiracy nut would say. The all-powerful yet incompetent oligarchy trying to take over the world, the New World Order, etc etc.
That's an equally, if not more dangerous trap to fall into.
It's such a paradox that Jones and the like preach. You're right -- these omniscient entities that somehow play everyone like a puppet, yet they are so fiercely incompetent.
If you watched the video "The Obama Deception", by Alex Jones, you'll see how he 'exposes' this massive operation by the 'New World Order' in which they control basically all the governments, or at least the US'. So tell me, if this NWO really exists, and what we perceive as reality is all controlled by invisible puppet masters, how did AJ get his video out, how did ALL these conspiracies get out, without so much as a finger raised by this 'NWO'?
Alex Jones is almost 100% hogwash. I used to love Alex Jones until I started wanting to become an analyst / sociologist. His work is spackled with distortions, context errors, and malicious quote mining. And this notion of a malicious "New World Order" is simply the product of a malicious appetite for laziness by those who actually digest and flourish by Jones' religious-right words, and don't actually fact check his claims or [racist] sources.
He's a borderline nihilist who believes the world is about to end -- in the Christan sense. He has the most ridiculous interviews of religious recluses that live in mountains, thinking the world is about to enter the biblical end of times. And Jones associates himself with this kind of belief.
Nope, you misunderstood what I was saying -- it was half sarcastic towards Alex Jones people -- half simplified summary and agreement of what you had previously said.
"Byrd has since explicitly renounced his earlier views on racial segregation.[51][52] Byrd said that he regrets filibustering and voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964[20] and would change it if he had the opportunity. He has stated that joining the KKK was "the greatest mistake I ever made".
Just the type of answer I would expect from a wet-behind-the-ear-haven't-experienced-the-REAL-WORLD-still-living in-my-parents-basement-25-year-old!
But then what do you expect...the party you've spent so much time defending on here, acts like a bunch of two year olds...why would their constituents act any better?
You liberals are the crybabies because you're alawys playing the race card and blaming everyone else for your problems. Personal responsibility is a foreign concept in the Democratic Party.
No, that's you Democrats. You think going after corruption is racism (crying). You supported the Duke lacrosse rape hoax (lying). You still think Rod Blagojevich is ethical (denying).
There is not one Democrat who thinks Rod is ethical. Fuck that giy. And while I'm at it, fuck you.
And who in god's name is still thinking about the Duke Lacrosse case? I never thought they were guilty and played LaCrosse myself.
When did the Democrats elect you to tell us what we believe?
We hired a better guy-Obama.
You are a failure of a himan being, a waste of skin and I highly doubt you have a job as NO ONE WOULD HIRE YOU FOR ANYTHING. Except to maybe suck a cock for $20.
NBC is OWNED by Media Matters which is owned by Soros!! Its all a bullshit set up!
falcondriver100 1 week ago
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Dr. Tim Groseclose's scientific research proves that Media Matters qualifies for the "MIS-informer of the Year" award.
vechorik 7 months ago
Either way, Brietbart got owned. That's all that matters.
daisymex 10 months ago 6
Fuck Media Matters. They never criticize MSBC.
wodiya 11 months ago
Eric you stupid commy, your as usual, full of shit. The charges were dropped, Your a commie admit it.
TheImpeacher 1 year ago
@TheImpeacher
Wrong. Charges have not been dropped. They were reduced because James' rich daddy paid for the best lawyers money can buy.
The new charges carry maximum sentences of six months in prison and a $5,000 fine. A date for their next court appearance has not been set.
Charges are still pending.
jensen1901 1 year ago
MM supports its information with facts and video ? the Acorn story had facts and video, umm guess those dont count. ? LOL . are you guys for real ? They entertained the thought of SELLING kids! Does that not bother you? No Breitbart does, you've got your priorities screwed up.
1969floridagirl 1 year ago
The Acorn story was as doctored as a Michael Moore documentary, come on.
Nictusempra 1 year ago
@1969floridagirl They entertained the thought of selling kids? My god they were showing the people how to get tax breaks and legally sell children. Media matters is left wing propaganda and deserves to lose their non profit status.
amberpoovey 1 year ago
@1969floridagirl breitbart heavily edited those tapes which is what he does best so he can mix-up the truth and support his lies. every government agency that looked at those tapes came to that conclusion. get your facts straight.
oceans19711 8 months ago
@1969floridagirl Shirley Sherrod incident ring any bells?
accardi4life 1 month ago 4
ACORN is nothing but a criminal organization. I can't believe people are actually defending an organization that advises people on how to evade paying income tax, run a brothel without being caught and how to smuggle underage Hispanic girls into the country to be used for prostitution. Do you really condone this activity or are you just so partisan that no matter how vile and disgusting an organization acts, as long as they are Democratic then they will not be criticized?
meast36 1 year ago
Here's the bottom line. Bill O'Reilly has championed Jessica's Law in many states which is really hard on sexual predators. Glenn Beck out Breitbart and Giles and O'Keefe on to expose corruption in an organization very very very close to the administration for which Giles and O'Keefe probably deserve a Pulitzer.
Now list me out the accomplishments of Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews. Besides continual crying about George Bush. MSNBC is junk media.
drhu 2 years ago
@drhu that organization that you talk about has been cleared of any wrongdoing. even by the brooklyn DA. now please tell me why o keefe cant leave his out without the permission of federal law enforcement. which he totally deserves
mic187x2 2 years ago
And the reason they were cleared of wrongdoing was because there were (literally) hundreds of other videos made by O'Keefe showing the vast majority of ACORN reps throwing him out or calling the police.
If he was interested in journalism in the slightest he's have released these earlier, and used the whole exercise as an attempt to bring two immoral workers to justice.
Instead it was proven that the whole exercise was a smear tactic. Pulitzer? Maybe shoved up his ass.
Lodatzor 2 years ago
@mic187x2 Oh scuse me I forgot when it's liberals it's not corruption. You guys are so corrupt you don't even know it when you see it.
Acorn was and is completely corrupt and everyone knows it. Course you aren't supposed to mention it and the media will ignore it like they tries to do because it was liberals. Plain and simple.
drhu 2 years ago
i'm not a liberal . i look at things from a non partisan point. i just wonder why attack acorn when it's always been democratic/left leaning for years. i still say it's because they helped elect a black president. once again how is it that mr o keefe cant leave his house without permission. karma is beautiful.
mic187x2 2 years ago
@cherubrock
I was only being facetious; by using idiotic right-wing talking points! I'm in total AGREEMENT w/you that health-care should be a human-right but dumbed-down righties think it's "big-government/socialism."
marcostar57 2 years ago
@cherubrock19871990 Oh.. but the human right of health care would be so "socialist." Here in (God-Bless) America you just have to pull your own weight; and you can't expect a "big-government handout" ugh...sigh..
marcostar57 2 years ago
Health care is not a right. You need to do some self education and learn what rights are. You progressives are the ones hurting our country. We are trying to keep America true to its foundation.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
"We are trying to keep America true to its foundation. "
So you claim the GOP is about American foundations? You mean like the Constitution? Funniest thing I heard all day.
kaysandesses 2 years ago
Where in the hell did I say the GOP is good? They are just as bad as the left. Screw the parties. I am a Libertarian. We are the only ones who actually stand up for what this country stands for.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
explain yourself. why is it funny? give some facts.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
@ericdahlen Oh but calling 911 for a cop or fire protection IS a right ( to protect property for example)?!!? As a typical right-winger, your "values" are screwed up.
marcostar57 2 years ago
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ericdahlen 2 years ago
Police and The Fire Departments we have are not rights. Again think about what you are saying before you speak. Both are necessities. Police protect you from me and me from you. Fire is obvious. We all pich in and all get the benefit no matter class. Don;t get me wrong there is corruption in all of it and it has to be stopped.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
@ericdahlen Hmm. we pay taxes for the "necessity" to have public police & fire protection. But basic health-care is NOT a human necessity?! So the 50,000 folks who DIE each year due to lack of health-care are ..what...dying due to a lack of some uneeded luxary?? As you say why can't "we all pitch in and all get the benefit no matter class".
marcostar57 2 years ago
For the people that have died due to not being able to afford to see a doctor, it's not 50.000 a year mind you, health care is a necessity for them. But in order to help them you must force a doctor to help them for free. Therefore it cannot be a right. If everybody wanted to pitch in together would work great but the government cannot force us to. And you cannot force me too. Set up a group and see if everybody would pitch in and run with it, Hope it works.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
If you would like a more detailed explanation message me.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
No, we don't need to force doctors to treat people. Do other industrialized nations force doctors to treat patients? And do you think an insured person who gets medical treatment and cannot pay is getting it for free?? The cost is passed on to ALL of us! I guess you don't understand the concept of a public system (like Medicare). And you contradict your own argument.
marcostar57 2 years ago
First off dude those other countries don't have OUR RIGHTS. They forcibly take from all there people to pay those doctors. Second insured people who get treated pay there premiums and don't have to pay. It is not free. Do you even read what you write. I understand it fully, it is you my friend that don't.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
What rights? Oh.. the right to die from lack of health-care or be denied coverage or just be gouged by greedy insurance companies ...did you hear that Health Point in CA is raising rates by 40%?? Dude, I'd rather have other nations' rights (human rights) than the neandrathal rights folks like you believe in.
marcostar57 2 years ago
Are you seriously telling me you don't think the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to protest a corrupt government are nothing and you would trade them for community health care? CA is the worst state we have. That's why I don't live there. There are ways to bring down costs without giving up freedoms or becoming a slave to the fed's or the state. Get government out! Don't you see anything they touch gets more expensive the more they get involved?
ericdahlen 2 years ago
Do you donate to privately funded groups that help people who are poor?
ericdahlen 2 years ago
Do you donate to the fire department? If you don't and your house catches fire I feel it should burn to the ground and you should have to cover the costs. Why should I have to pay for a fire department to protect your home? I could pay for private fire protection and police protection.
I don't think security is a luxury offered in the constitution either.
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
If you are advocating that we should have no police then you are either for anarchy or military rule. Yes you can hire personal protection but the middle class and below can not. Equal protection under and from the law is provided in the Constitution.
We have a fire department so when your house catches on fire on the other end of the block it doesn't burn the rest of ours down too.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
No I'm not for getting rid of the police, I'm for privatizing them. As in the people that can afford the luxury of protection and safety that police and investigations into crime provide. What I'm not for is letting a bunch of freeloaders have police and fire protection, or public education, roads, and just about anything else that makes a livable life possible.
If you don't have the money for it you don't deserve it.
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
So let me get this straight. I pay for my own security. Who enforces the law? Now seeing I am protected and the guy down the block has no security all I have to do is go down there and take over, right? The way you speak you sound like a war lord. That is exactly why we cannot privatize the police.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
as for government education I would love to quit paying taxes for it. We all need the roads and we could not build enough private roads in an effective manner to support an economy of our size. I do agree there are tons of things we could stop wasting our money on that our government forces us to.
ericdahlen 2 years ago
have you ever read any book, ever?
huckleberry12 2 years ago
Love how that guy (Breitbart )just throw O'keefe under the bus so he doesnt go to jail with that dumbfuck
gaji1 2 years ago
Still find it interesting that it took Breitbart accusing shuster to his face to get him to admit that he had overstepped the bounds of journalism by passing judgement on O'Keefe without waiting on the facts.
He made accusations that were simply false and that is slander, not journalism.
rushevents 2 years ago
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frictionRx5 2 years ago
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Yea, we should all listen to government funded MSNBC. GE, the parent company of MSNBC, received massive amounts of the stimulus and sweetheart contracts.
axe863 2 years ago
logic... some have it some don't
lewghost 2 years ago
I think if a supposed media out let lies or misrepresents a story, someone should be held criminally responsible.
media matters wouldn't even be able to post anymore.
hydin1 2 years ago
"Johnny Knoxville situation", that's exactly what I thought when I heard of this, it's like something out of Jackass. LOL.
XopXproxyX 2 years ago
awesome video! boehlert kiiilled it and knew his stuff!
thebuilder86 2 years ago
He is so Right
javoangel 2 years ago
The Republican Party: "Who are you gonna believe??? Me, or your lyin' eyes?"
ReliableInsider 2 years ago
so what did he say that was false?
mindsearrecords 2 years ago
Facts are like kryptonite to the Republican party.
jensen1901 2 years ago
So says the Democrats who still think the Duke lacrosse players are rapists.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
uhhhhhhhhhhh ok.
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
Manonthemount: by that standard, everyone might be guilty of something so no one can be assumed innocent of anything. Brilliant.
fishhead06 2 years ago
the lack of prosecution of alleged acorn abuses isn't proof of innocence
keep in mind that neither bush nor cheney were held accountable under the law for abuses violating domestic and international law that they themselves admitted to
manonthemount 2 years ago
I was going to say the same as fishhead06, but your right about Bush and Cheney. The problem is that those videos didn't contain anything illegal, so all is allegations and nothing is decided. The assumption of innocence is peremptory, but with Bush/cheney they did everything they did in plain sight. Olbermann put it together for everyone to see, as did Maddow.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
You have got to see the video of Bill O' Reilly and Paul Krugman on CNBC being interviewed by the late "and great" Tim Russert. When Paul drops the name "Media Matters," Bill just flips out and says, "Why don't I call up some clan operation? Why don't I just call the Klu Klux Klan?" Very funny to see Bill be as ignorant as he is when trying to dress down the validity of a website like Media Matters 4 America.
JoshKeatonFan 2 years ago
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MediaMatters would defend their favorite Klansman, Robert Byrd.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Media Matters, why haven't you posted up what Chris Matthews said about Obama's speech??
mak345 2 years ago
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MediaMatters is run by Democrats and DemoKKKrats get away with everything.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
HA, trying to take a liberal insult against liberals...real original.
WiiAreSIN 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher Haha wow you are so funny! 'DemoKKKrats', did you come up with that all by yourself???
Fucking idiot. Yeah liberals are OBVIOUSLY the racist ones.
691015005 2 years ago
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Liberals ARE the racists. They're the ones who support the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, Tawana Brawley, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, quota systems, affirmative action, rap music, the race card, and Chris "I didn't know Obama was black" Matthews.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher, How does the duke rape have anything at all to do with race? Neither do any of these things... Unless you are talking about racism towards white people. Which is a bullshit argument. All (or 99.9%) of the hicks in the KKK vote for republicans. so stfu up with your 'demoKKKrat' that makes absolutely no sense
691015005 2 years ago
If the Duke Lacrosse case had nothing to do with race, why were Jesse Jackson and his other race huckster friend Al Sharpton involved?
electango 2 years ago
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are also notoriously linked with Christianity, clothes wearing and breakfast consumption.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are political activists who've gained wealth and fame by stirring up racial animosity and strife. They show up on the scene whenever a dispute has racial aspects they can exploit. The mere fact Jackson and Sharpton showed up to raise hell in the Duke Lacrosse case shows the case was all about race and not much about rape. Obviously, you think racial animosity and strife are good things or you wouldn't be trying to excuse these two jackasses.
electango 2 years ago
@electango they were wrong about the duke case but look at all the injustices blacks have had to endure?
sparle222 2 years ago
You are surely not saying that one set of injustices excuse the creation of another whole set of injustices, are you? Because that's what Jackson and Sharpton were trying to do. In fact, Jackson automatically assumed the Duke students were guilty of rape and was ready to railroad them to state prison. And Jackson and Sharpton have yet to apologize for their incendiary actions.
electango 2 years ago
@electango you are right and i apologize you can never win a argument with a ....
sparle222 2 years ago
Liberals were defending the lying black whore, saying that the lacrosse players were "rich white boys getting away with rape." Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton defended the liar. Blacks can get away with being racist bigots. They can't succeed on their own, so they play the race card and demand quota systems like affirmative action.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Liberals were defending the WHAT???
StoogeWatcher, you're making a fool of yourself.
ReliableInsider 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher: Congratulations! You just won yourself the YouTube "Dumbest Fucktard of the Month" Award.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
You're the dumb fucktard.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher: You're a sub-pathetic parrot. Go pluck yourself.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
You're a parrot of Keith Olbermann and George Soros.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher
NO U
LoryLandskipper 2 years ago
Last time I checked, MSNBC, Keith Olbermann, and George Soros were Democrat.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher
I know I was just trying to make u lol.
LoryLandskipper 2 years ago
StoogWatcher, you are pathetic. Look at how many comments you are leaving. Desperate much? And no, I don't think the Duke players are rapists and never did.
jensen1901 2 years ago
StoogeWatcher,
When David Duke won the white vote in Louisiana, which party's ticket did he run on?
That's the real world.
Which party was Strom Thurmond, the racial segregationist, join in 1964 when George H. W. Bush was campaigning against the 1964 Civil Right Act?
ReliableInsider 2 years ago
its just not newsworthy, to say that the senator's office gets alot of phone calls. ..bfd...its not a believable alibi
pissonrushsgrave 2 years ago
Thank God for Media Matters. The Internet would be a scarier place without them.
rusrockt10 2 years ago 5
I absolutely ADORE Eric Boehlert!!!! Thank you, & all the good folks at MediaMatters, for all your good work!!
I also thinks its HILARIOUS that Breitbart attempts to use the same defense that ACORN did when hit with the videos. Andy, O'Keefe etc, all maligned ACORN for stating that "we dont know all the facts, the videos dont seem to tell the whole story, we cant rush to judge"... I just think its GREAT that Karma has forced them to the same level... over a REAL crime, not a made-up one.
VeritasVerificatrion 2 years ago 5
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If Charlie Rangel can getaway with tax evasion, James O'Keefe shouldn't be jailed.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Fox using facts? It'll snow in Hell before that happens
GoCelticsNow 2 years ago 5
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MSNBC was caught using fake quotes. CBS used phony documents.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
I like sources: Provide me with them, please
endsequence 2 years ago
I'm from Massachusetts. I read the Boston Globe.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
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Sorry, wrong thing. MSNBC was caught attributing a fake quote to Rush Limbaugh. And how can you forget about Rathergate?
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to this sad sack spillingthe beans and Fox been implicated.
Let's get this fucker and his puppetmasters on trial and sent down.
geffel 2 years ago
Fox news encourages these lone wolf idiots but when they get busted they you cannot draw a direct line back to them. The same goes for the violent teabagger types. They want them to act but won't take any of the blame.
a300pilotster 2 years ago 10
or any accountability for the crap they say or do!!!! Accountability on a multitude of levels is a EXTREMELY foreign concept to these people...to the point where you shrug it off as typical!
classc63 2 years ago 2
Who saying O'Keefe was a lone wolf operator?
There were FOUR guys arrested, not one! Who was paying these guys? Follow the money , it probably leads back to Breibart. That would account for the loud BS.
robertmike57 2 years ago
It has already been proven to lead back to Breibart. He's funded by BigPharma and the Health Insurance cartel. It don't take much to connect the dots.
Silberdachs 2 years ago 3
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Liberals don't hate Big Pharma and health insurance companies because they've taken money from their lobbyist friends, including Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Liberals hate people who write run on sentences.
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
"Johnny Knoxville type situation?" That's a slander against Johnny Knoxville.
rkeppler3633 2 years ago 8
I hear that.
SaintJust101 2 years ago
this made me LOL!
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
Proscecutors should threaten O'Keefe and friends with ten years in prison and no plea deal unless O'Keefe comes up with a real good reason not to.
rkeppler3633 2 years ago 9
excellent interview
EHeroClayman 2 years ago 3
"A mixture of propaganda and dirty tricks" perfectly stated.
SXJULIE 2 years ago 13
Nice interview
koren1124 2 years ago 3
Fox says it has to reserve judgement until it knows what the facts are.
Ha! Like that ever stopped them before? They jumped all over this clown's Acorn story without any regards for "context."
They ran with every smear they could find against Obama without bothing to verify it (the way REAL news organizations do).
Fox is a joke.
eatmorenachos 2 years ago 29
FIX News is nothing but a neo-con propaganda mill. Have Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly even mentioned this case yet???
goog2k 2 years ago 30
Actually Beck mentioned it and somewhat condemned O'Keefe and called him stupid. Other than that it's been pretty much ignored by Faux News. Strange, considering they couldn't seem to air the "pimp" video often enough.
kaysandesses 2 years ago 8
..stupid.. for being caught in the act
moestietabarnak 2 years ago
Fox news won't mention this case until they have something to snag onto that makes it look like Keefe is innocent so they can slant it to make it look like democrats are enforcing an evil, socialist, police state.
Trust me, there's a story coming from Fox, they just have to generate the right spin behind it to make it grab hold of their audience.
scbluesman13 2 years ago 6
They mentioned it immediately as breaking news. That said, they immediately started to say that it must be put into "context" before any judgement is made.
EuphasiaC 2 years ago
PMSNBC and the Clinton News Network are tentacles of the Democratic Party.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
uhhhh no. in fact if you actually watch any of the shows on that station they tear apart just about any politician full of shit.
in case you didn't know GE is the owner of MSNBS and big contributor to both the republican and democrat parties.
Go look at the numbers you clown!
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
Denial, delusion and hypocrisy, are Republicans/FAUX News' BEST FRIENDS. You can't have one without the other!
classc63 2 years ago 16
The puppeteers that actually control the government LOVE it when u fall into trap of supporting one party, either repub or dem., in this false dichotomy. They want u to be sidetracked by the "distinctions" of the two party's cuz whatever party appears to hold power, they actually do because they control the parties.
Kucinich/Fiengold 2012
EuphasiaC 2 years ago
@EuphasiaC While I agree that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is - much of the time - a false dichotomy, don't you think it's equally unproductive to actively believe in some monolithic group of mystery puppeteers? While our governmental deadlock definitely benefits those who want the status quo, I have trouble with the notion of a nefarious group of ne'er-do-wells smoking pipes and cigars in some high-rise office building manipulating American society behind the scenes.
mikepalomino 2 years ago
And who the hell do you think you're promoting? Kucinich/Fiengold may be Progressives, but they don't have enough clout WITHOUT Democrats! I think you're being EXTREMELY naive to think otherwise.
Look the Democrats have a big enough tent for everyone...don't go all "teabagging" on us and start fractioning off. I agree with a lot of what Kucinich says and love his passion behind it...but realistically he wouldn't stand a chance without Democrat support. That's just FACT!
classc63 2 years ago
Dennis generally doesn't have the support of Democratic 'leadership'. He was sandbagged in the Democratic debates and primaries, and banned from debating in a televised debate in Nevada even though he qualified for the requirements the hosts had. They threatened to run someone against him in his district if he didn't toe the party line. Dennis is a Dem solely for his constituents' sake, because the party has screwed him.
mexcurmudgeon 2 years ago
@EuphasiaC If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers. ~ Thomas Pynchon
timdaughte 2 years ago
Euphasia,
that sounds like the same BS any Alex Jones/conspiracy nut would say. The all-powerful yet incompetent oligarchy trying to take over the world, the New World Order, etc etc.
That's an equally, if not more dangerous trap to fall into.
'Government's out to get you!' Yeah right.
harlexWTF 2 years ago 3
It's such a paradox that Jones and the like preach. You're right -- these omniscient entities that somehow play everyone like a puppet, yet they are so fiercely incompetent.
endsequence 2 years ago
@endsequence
If you watched the video "The Obama Deception", by Alex Jones, you'll see how he 'exposes' this massive operation by the 'New World Order' in which they control basically all the governments, or at least the US'. So tell me, if this NWO really exists, and what we perceive as reality is all controlled by invisible puppet masters, how did AJ get his video out, how did ALL these conspiracies get out, without so much as a finger raised by this 'NWO'?
Again, incompetence.
harlexWTF 2 years ago
@harlexWTF
Alex Jones is almost 100% hogwash. I used to love Alex Jones until I started wanting to become an analyst / sociologist. His work is spackled with distortions, context errors, and malicious quote mining. And this notion of a malicious "New World Order" is simply the product of a malicious appetite for laziness by those who actually digest and flourish by Jones' religious-right words, and don't actually fact check his claims or [racist] sources.
endsequence 2 years ago
He's a borderline nihilist who believes the world is about to end -- in the Christan sense. He has the most ridiculous interviews of religious recluses that live in mountains, thinking the world is about to enter the biblical end of times. And Jones associates himself with this kind of belief.
endsequence 2 years ago
@endsequence
exactly what I think.
but why then do you have such a similar mindset then?
harlexWTF 2 years ago
Why do I have a similar mindset? To Alex Jones or you?
endsequence 2 years ago
@endsequence
I meant to Alex Jones, when you said "these omniscient entities that somehow play everyone like a puppet", the same thing he would say.
harlexWTF 2 years ago
@harlexWTF
Nope, you misunderstood what I was saying -- it was half sarcastic towards Alex Jones people -- half simplified summary and agreement of what you had previously said.
endsequence 2 years ago
@endsequence
That's what I thought. But your sentence structure wasn't easy to understand It sounded as if you were sarcastic towards me, not AJ.
Sorry 'bout that.
harlexWTF 2 years ago
pfft, If McCain had won, Jones would have called it "the McCain deception" with barely changing tje video.
moestietabarnak 2 years ago
@moestietabarnak
Yeah, the guy isn't happy unless his KKK buddies get their way. The guy is so delusional.
endsequence 2 years ago
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Democrats are the KKK. Two words: Robert Byrd.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher
"Byrd has since explicitly renounced his earlier views on racial segregation.[51][52] Byrd said that he regrets filibustering and voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964[20] and would change it if he had the opportunity. He has stated that joining the KKK was "the greatest mistake I ever made".
DixonRants 2 years ago 2
Now I feel like trolling around in pro-alex jones videos haha
endsequence 2 years ago
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Fascism, corruption, and hypocrisy are DNC/PMSNBC's best friends.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
TROLL MUCH???? LMFAO
classc63 2 years ago
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BITCH MUCH? LMFAO!!!
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Just the type of answer I would expect from a wet-behind-the-ear-haven't-experienced-the-REAL-WORLD-still-living in-my-parents-basement-25-year-old!
But then what do you expect...the party you've spent so much time defending on here, acts like a bunch of two year olds...why would their constituents act any better?
classc63 2 years ago
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You liberals are the crybabies because you're alawys playing the race card and blaming everyone else for your problems. Personal responsibility is a foreign concept in the Democratic Party.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
@StoogeWatcher Want me to call you a wahmulance?
Exitus767 2 years ago
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You're the one that needs it.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
I didn't bring up race. Was that your LAME attempt to act like a grown-up? You're laughable and so juvenile. Grow up!
classc63 2 years ago
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You liberals are the ones that need to grow up.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
That's funny, Stoogewatcher, because all I see on every single You Tube video that remotely touches on politics are cons crying, lying and denying.
jensen1901 2 years ago
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No, that's you Democrats. You think going after corruption is racism (crying). You supported the Duke lacrosse rape hoax (lying). You still think Rod Blagojevich is ethical (denying).
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
There is not one Democrat who thinks Rod is ethical. Fuck that giy. And while I'm at it, fuck you.
And who in god's name is still thinking about the Duke Lacrosse case? I never thought they were guilty and played LaCrosse myself.
When did the Democrats elect you to tell us what we believe?
We hired a better guy-Obama.
You are a failure of a himan being, a waste of skin and I highly doubt you have a job as NO ONE WOULD HIRE YOU FOR ANYTHING. Except to maybe suck a cock for $20.
jensen1901 2 years ago
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Obama was better? HA! He's doing the exact same things you criticized Bush for.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Boehlert hit the nail on the head. That's all right-wing media is now: propaganda and dirty tricks, not actual journalism.
GoCelticsNow 2 years ago 19
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What do liberals know about actual journalism when they're still worshipping Mary Mapes?
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago