TvP [How to] [FPVOD] Strategy 02 of 5: by KTF MagicNs

[USERNAMEKLEMPTOR]

do prope, drone, or scv get attacked by spidermines at all?

[in3x]

@USERNAMEKLEMPTOR they float, so no

[bushkuwakakoppish]

@SCTV how did he control the structure without going to the base @ 8:25? can you put a shortcut on structures also? pls help me a newbie.

[DS650POWER]

at 7;33 he clicks on robo facility and can see the shuttle building.....??

[bushkuwakakoppish]

@DS650POWER hahaha! it was the replay not the actual game.hahaha!!! look closely to the screen.hahaha!!!

[xXUndeadShadow166Xx]

all the stuff tehy do is pointelss tehy have no lifes koreans are fucking nerds now there killing eachother North and south korea and going into fucking war and there fukcing idiotws

[Gizmodio92]

wow... loads of unessesary APM there..

[nahuelflash]

cool

[ThorZorZ]

Soooo much spamming lol

[N0b0dykn0w]

its just crazy this apm spam.useless³. You need success in your life? stop spamming actions, get a real life

[jimmyz512]

@quickplaya

lots of reasons

It helps raise their apm (actions per minute) and it helps warm up their hand to get used to clicking at that speed. When you play professionally, the difference between a win and a loss could be the temperature of their hands.

[quickplaya]

OK... seriously.. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF ALL THAT MICRO WHILE GAINING SCVS? That isn't doing anything.. they are already auto gathering... it can't go any faster.... what a fucking moron. I understand the micro on attacking and building alittle bit.. but seriously? TAKE A FUCKING CHILL PILL and let your SCVS GATHER.. jesus christ!

[DemonWTF]

english subtitleS?

[svartninjan]

I prefer early rushes without siege mode or early dropship play ^^ , and I scout on 12 always , on 2 player maps and on 9 when its more than 2 players

[d4n13lr0x]

DANG, TheMarine Looks a lot different than now.

[123Numbers456]

this was really cool, but i dont speak korean so i couldnt get all of it.

when do you build the second command center?

[skyrmish]

I'm not sure but looks like his supply was @ 43 then, I'm guessing when you're pumping vultures out of two factories and when you have enough minerals for it.

[MOOMOOCAKE]

after u build ur fact, and u cut ur tank pump, i think u get starport then while ur doing that, expand

[ABarni]

Holy Crap, Nice Micro ...

as expeted from a pro gamer ... was very educative ... i never managed to do this build correctly though ^^

[Limezor]

Whenever I play BattleNet I always just get rushed by Zealots its fucking annoying. Cuz if I prepare for that and they in fact don't rush then I get screwed later on.

[VMD01Z]

what about scouting?

[MOOMOOCAKE]

right after u make rax, scout

[MOOMOOCAKE]

this is the bamboo rush... i prefer 5 fact timing push into tornado terran... he walls, 5 fact doesnt... ur suposed to not wall, but do wat it says in the description... u get 2 rines, and get tank asap

[DoctorX606]

You know, he built the depot at 9/10, not 8/10... When thee koreans say 8 I think they're talking about the number of SCV's actually out, not including the one that's currently building...

Just a thought.

[olevarher]

He started it just before his 9th SCV popped out, in other words, on 8 supply.

[DoctorX606]

Aren't units in progress included? If his 9th SCV is building, the supply count will read 9, right? >.>

[ogopolo]

yes

[basher481]

@DoctorX606 yup

[wowrocks221]

good stuff sometimes i do vulture drops if i see there main is not defended and set mines to trap my self behind their mineral nodes. im still a noob to but thought this might give people ideas

[rayruiz12345]

why do i hear so much keyboard clicks? im a starcraft noob so i dont use keyboard at all lol

[SCTV]

if you wouldn't hear any keyboard clicks the guy is either asleep, dead or picking his nose

[asian12329]

translation please? lol

[2small2big]

moslty picking nose.

[dong9589]

@SCTV or the guy is a n00b that only uses his mouse

[shlokda]

you're supposed to use the keyboard for like 85 percent of everything you do in starcraft. There's no way you can ever be fast enough by just using a mouse.

[MrJivePirate]

@rayruiz12345 Use the hotkeys it's so much faster. Would you rather type with a keyboard or by clicking on each letter?

[rayruiz12345]

@MrJivePirate

yeah i figured that out by now, thanks though lol

[chocoharvey]

it would be great if it had subtitles

[YorkeKin]

dont attack that early if you think ur micro isnt good otherwise you will lose

[bombardboy]

dam i cant micro like him!!

[HomunkulusGnom]

hes too good/fast XD

[dungheap123]

I've tried this build a lot and thought it just wasn't good because I could rarely win with it. But now I see that my micro is just terrible, and the build is good.

[YorkeKin]

basically i think you can kill 3 of its first dragoons you can keep him under pressure till the end of the game, since you can rally point your facs in its base and siege him, but the main problem is, much micro is needed to wipe him out early

[FinalShotX]

when yu get the second fact? I cant really see the sup count. Thnks :D

[SCTV]

as soon as you have 100 gas and 200 minerals

BO = Build Order

[YorkeKin]

you mean, the ground and air armor upgrades right...

Im gonna try it, actually i developed a new build order , almost the same as the shown in the video but building the first supply depot, faster.

[YorkeKin]

sorry, i meant, ealier* instead of faster.

[YorkeKin]

this BO is considering that the protoss will rush you.

Actually i got problems, with protoss that decide to camp early game...

[SCTV]

I know what you mean, what I would normally do then is expand and macro like there is no tomorrow, but with very early dual armor upgrades. not matter what toss throws at you mid late game your grades can handle it far much better!

[SCTV]

basically if you play it safe, you'll want a tank 1st, but sometime toss wants to get cocky and expands very early with is 1-2 goons, then it is save to just tech speed then mines. As soon as speed is done you go for his probes laying mine up/on the ramp, in and round his base/gates, you have the choice either to  follow with vultures , or make 2 tanks for safety or expand during your vulture raid!

[SCTV]

or while faking a speed-mines raid  tech a drop ship and rally it close to the toss, lay 1 mine, load up and sneak in, the problem here is that your economy is not going to be good in the long run, so you must do maximum probe kills!

[FinalShotX]

y 12/18 supply?

[SCTV]

to  keep the scouting probe out

[chi4455]

can someone give the build order in english?

[YorkeKin]

8/10 supply(barrax when finish)

11/18 refinary

12/18 supply

16/18 factory

[spiritlight9k]

wow themarine LOL =)) great tech godie =)

[pathfinder0009]

awsome vult micro

[alexiseddie]

alguien puede traducir lo q habla???

[kluzzzz]

wont work if enemy has no dragoon but only zealot.

[esslaee]

lol..

[SCTV]

lol, then works even better ......

[ULTRATHUNDERGOD]

vultures>zealots

[dong9589]

@ULTRATHUNDERGOD speed zealots = no speed vultures or speed zealots> no speed vultures

[theDreamer008]

wow! that's awesome! hope there's an English subtitle so i could understand what he explained (or at least a detailed description on how to do it). but still, very informative. thanks a lot for uploading.

[esslaee]

Well he was sort of saying what is obvious from the screen, but the idea is to block your choke early, and don't bother building rine/bat/medic because of potential high templars. Pretty much go vulture/tank combination, and you ahve to practise microing the placement of mines and such. You have to keep track of how many units your opponent might have produced, and attack accordingly. Don't wait too long, because he may have too many dragoons for you to handle. I'm running out of character count

[briach]

Cool build, I'm so used to the 4 marine/tank/vult/2scv push build

[joshua92931]

thats FD terran and usually used when the protoss goes 1 gate double or no gate double

[bibogrape]

hard to do but ill try