You know, using the Grappling Beam (z-air) is meant for spacing yourself from your opponent. Homing Missiles act as a deterant. You'd best watch out for Hylian. While he does play as other characters besides Samus, he does play skillfully and effectively.
Not that I know of. However, you can watch videos of Samus here on YouTube. Search for names like Tudor, Xyro, Rohins, Sago, or myself, Dryn. If you're interested in European Samus players, look for Vivid and/or SaiX.
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I played Samus in melee, out of love and because Falco/Fox/Sheik/Marth players are nubs. But Brawl was a let down as I might have to let Samus go. She got a speed nerf, and the missle delay atleast in air has been increased.
It may just take more getting used to, but the fluidness that once was samus just seems to be sluggish now. If anyone is looking for a character that moved like samus did in Melee, I find that Pit has the most similar feel.
[tobias]: Not having been used to the game, mostly. Like Hyli combos me at the very beginning and my first instinct is Smash DI, which doesn't get you out of sticky moves, but I could have just airdodged. It just didn't occur to me.
Our latest batch of vids (everything that's up right now is from the same session) should show some improvement in that area, like... being more Brawl-like and kinda shedding old Melee habits.
people say that samus got nerfed as shit but from what i have seen other moves from samus got buffed like the grapple beam and about the nerfed thing i think the whole dmg knockback is yust changed compared 2 melee's
for samus vs. samus this is pretty good...only the grapple was overused and the missiles were used a little too much, it's kind of more fun to use different techniques, but i guess whatever to win...^_^
[tobias]: Force of habit. Almost every time you see me drop a bomb on the ground with Samus, it's trying to be an SWD because I do it so much in Melee.
Yes it does. More knockback and slightly more stun. It's what makes grapple work as an edgeguard, since you can mid-hit grapple them and then tipper grapple them immediately afterwards.
[tobias]: You're absolutely right. Melee habits, though. Airdodging with my main (Luigi) in Melee would mean a stock. We're getting used to the new game, though.
Nice fight. Samus has been my Main sicne the first one so everyone shouted she was nerfed...doesnt look to bad to me ^_^. Ill be playing both Samus/ZSS alot.
[tobias]: Missile Canceling in Melee is shooting off a missile just before you hit the ground (but early enough that the missile actually comes out). It cancels the lag from having fired off a missile, and is vital to Samus players.
In Brawl, almost everything that Samus does in the air autocancels, missiles included.
Now that it has a little better knockback, the grapple beam has some potential as an attack...anyone know if other moves like this (e.g., the hookshots) have similar properties?
Since l-cancel was removed, new metagame is not to have attacks that release instantly like shine, but to have moves that have no lag like the grapple beam.
it's the new style of fighting with samus, im gonna have to use that when brawl is released on the 9th :D this was a very good match and i didn't know that double missle was still gonna be in it! i was a little disappointed about the information that my cousin gave me that samus wasn't going to be able to double missle anymore, but now that i've seen the true pros (yay) im very excited about brawl!
0:57 what an epic moment
2 samus
both at 106%
both jumping and shooting rockets at each other which collide
Huggihuz 1 year ago
This is how the fight against Dark Samus should have been like :P
101Phase 2 years ago
they are not using their missiles or grapple beams enough.
vokuheila 2 years ago 2
this match needs more missiles xD
CrazyCanonCrew 3 years ago
press 111 if ur honry xD
type 69 if ur hrny lol xD Br
Nowen7000 3 years ago
It's hard to approach Samus when you have missiles and grappling beams in your face every second.
KillerHeroes 3 years ago
These guys are amazing i used to be this good with samus in melee but i dumped her for Link. Good choice by me imo.
RIPRaotu 3 years ago
it looked so simple the way they play...but itz not.
fraudster111 3 years ago
LMAOOOO What the fuck did I just watch?
All I saw were two Samus players spamming missiles and grapple beams for five minutes.
SgtChooch 3 years ago
You know, using the Grappling Beam (z-air) is meant for spacing yourself from your opponent. Homing Missiles act as a deterant. You'd best watch out for Hylian. While he does play as other characters besides Samus, he does play skillfully and effectively.
Dryn85 3 years ago 2
i play samus, is there a "how to play as samus" video?
kingblahblahthe99th 3 years ago
Not that I know of. However, you can watch videos of Samus here on YouTube. Search for names like Tudor, Xyro, Rohins, Sago, or myself, Dryn. If you're interested in European Samus players, look for Vivid and/or SaiX.
Dryn85 3 years ago
So much camping.
crimsonhead27 3 years ago
fuck you
MaximusAlphaKManly 2 years ago
Amazing battle. Nice use of grapple canceling
sankethsukeshgmail 3 years ago
Great match, Hylian. It's good to see other Samus mains out there.
Dryn85 3 years ago
hah i play samus and my name is tobas also... it would be like fighting myself 0.0
T3hC4r4v4n 3 years ago
This fight needs more missiles
plargel000 3 years ago 5
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ike>>>>Samus..
snake, marth fox>>>ike.
ZSS>>>Snake
thats all i know now that have a better advantage over some ppl.
oh yeah forgot one thing
Pit>>>>Lucas, Ness
renegadetx2001 3 years ago
Tiers r for queers, Samus dittos are good fun.
blah17123456 3 years ago
You know what else sucks? YOUR MOUTH!
ChromePirate 3 years ago 4
How is Hylian so good?
ChromePirate 3 years ago 2
missile! missile! missile! grapple! missile! missile! dash attack! grapple! missile!
Costrin 3 years ago 2
Who cares. Deal with it
MaximusAlphaKManly 2 years ago
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This fight sucks
Blerimkauftbier 3 years ago
No items.
Samus only.
Final Destination.
Seriously though, great match. :)
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 3 years ago 5
Samus ftilt got buffed, it comes out faster.
MountainKingboo 3 years ago
Ringadaddy, Samus has gotten better, especially the missiles. What are you talking about? She rapes.
WootWootPenguin 3 years ago
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I played Samus in melee, out of love and because Falco/Fox/Sheik/Marth players are nubs. But Brawl was a let down as I might have to let Samus go. She got a speed nerf, and the missle delay atleast in air has been increased.
It may just take more getting used to, but the fluidness that once was samus just seems to be sluggish now. If anyone is looking for a character that moved like samus did in Melee, I find that Pit has the most similar feel.
Riggadaddy 3 years ago
Buena peleas, muy buenos los Samus, estuvieron peleados hasta el final.
MarthBrawl 3 years ago
Great match. Samus is a beast!!!
SmashterLink 3 years ago
a hot one!!!
LINK22134 3 years ago 2
Fire ze missiles!
CopShowGuy 3 years ago 2
It'll be interesting to watch matchups like these develop as players learn new ways to counter things like grapple spam and f-smash on ground.
Didn't see a lot of airdodges, even though it's apparently broken as hell; what's up?
ycz13 3 years ago
[tobias]: Not having been used to the game, mostly. Like Hyli combos me at the very beginning and my first instinct is Smash DI, which doesn't get you out of sticky moves, but I could have just airdodged. It just didn't occur to me.
Our latest batch of vids (everything that's up right now is from the same session) should show some improvement in that area, like... being more Brawl-like and kinda shedding old Melee habits.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
people say that samus got nerfed as shit but from what i have seen other moves from samus got buffed like the grapple beam and about the nerfed thing i think the whole dmg knockback is yust changed compared 2 melee's
mastersamus101 3 years ago 3
Great shit.
ADDTaku 3 years ago
It seems D Tilt can KO at a reasonable % nice.
IndigoR 3 years ago 2
epic fight
t'was good
devondavies90 3 years ago 2
The day you posted this was my brother's birthday, and President's Day! Yeah! 9 more days! Player 1 got owned!
UltraZapdos 3 years ago
how do you do the super missles?
deitylink209 3 years ago
OMG 9 MORE DAYS TILL THIS COMES OUT!!!!
filipinoguy101 3 years ago 4
rgfmhetm
darthmatthew34 3 years ago
lololololol
darthmatthew34 3 years ago
for samus vs. samus this is pretty good...only the grapple was overused and the missiles were used a little too much, it's kind of more fun to use different techniques, but i guess whatever to win...^_^
Mochtroid127 3 years ago
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nubs quit shooting missiles
BurnigIce 3 years ago
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Lots of people are saying samus got a nerf but to me its looking like she got a small buff!
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ryry8380 3 years ago
Samus is soooooo slow. I feel like I need to watch a Sonic ditto after seeing this...
KansasRushDream 3 years ago
Intense match!
Neuralscan 3 years ago 2
HYLIAN IS A TOOL D:
VgtPrncfllSyns 3 years ago
loving Samus for Brawl. She was my main in Melee.
180OP 3 years ago
loving Samus for Brawl. She was my main in Melee.
180OP 3 years ago
That was epic, and it gives me hope for Samus in Brawl.
FuzzyrabbitMD 3 years ago
I knew Samus was going to win.
NateCartoons 3 years ago 2
i really couldnt make up my mind i put 1000 $ on samus hope i won
BurnigIce 3 years ago
i really couldnt make up my mind i put 1000 $ on samus hope i won
BurnigIce 3 years ago
har har har
MaximusAlphaKManly 2 years ago
2:12: Attempt at a SWD?
capefeather 3 years ago
[tobias]: Force of habit. Almost every time you see me drop a bomb on the ground with Samus, it's trying to be an SWD because I do it so much in Melee.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
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how boring they dont know how fight
jpablosol16 3 years ago
you dont know how talk
d0grent 3 years ago 3
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i agree...this match sux...ITS JUST MISSLES!...DO SUMTHIN ELSE TO MAKE IT INTERESTING!
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago
wtf man that was an awesome match
thekage3 3 years ago
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...i dont know it just really bored me...dont like it sue me
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago
I think I will sue you, actually. I have a good lawyer.
Fisherington 3 years ago 2
lol ok good luck findin me
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago
yea tehy know how fight
MaximusAlphaKManly 2 years ago
lol at the back and forth grappling at 4:30-ish
Korpocalypse 3 years ago
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...kind boring because all they did were missles...screw attack, grab, SMASH ATTACK DO SUMTHIN ELSE!...im good with samus and this burns my eyes
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago
When you got missles, spam them! :D
jigglyppuff8 3 years ago
cool when the missiles hit each other
majoraknight 3 years ago
cool when the missiles hit each other
majoraknight 3 years ago
No thanks
djchimpster91 3 years ago
This battle was amazing... I can't wait to get my hands on Samus
TheWoebegoneJackal 3 years ago
0_0 lol woah that sounded so wrong for a second..lmao but yep Samus still is pretty good.
Tifa697 3 years ago
I lol'd
reallycalm 3 years ago
Does the tip of the Grapple Beam, aerial, has more knockback than the beam itself?
DarthVivec 3 years ago
Yes it does. More knockback and slightly more stun. It's what makes grapple work as an edgeguard, since you can mid-hit grapple them and then tipper grapple them immediately afterwards.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
i knew samus would win
Gh3ttoman 3 years ago 7
Gotta admit, was a funny comment =P.
psymyster 3 years ago
oh yeah, and that beginning missile fight/combo was sick
hotfreakngarbage 3 years ago
awesome fight
hotfreakngarbage 3 years ago
I'll never be that good, but that was awesome!
I already played Samus in a similar fashion in Melee. I'm not a competitive player, but this video is inspiring.
Plasdurock 3 years ago
Samus is more bulky in Brawl...
Altermax777 3 years ago
Samus is more bulky in Brawl...
Altermax777 3 years ago
Nice samus footage, no clear evidence of nerf till some time tho, buffs and nerfs seems ot make her better overall...
happytaco 3 years ago
missile spaming FTW
bluemilk123 3 years ago 2
good this vid is sooo good it makes me wanna play brawl already thanks keep up the good shit. btw if u can get a vid of pikachu it would be great!!!!
Aenuub 3 years ago
So many missiles... Delicious.
shyguy9 3 years ago
You guys need to airdodge more.
It's broken.
And there is no penalty for abusing it.
EmblemLord 3 years ago
[tobias]: You're absolutely right. Melee habits, though. Airdodging with my main (Luigi) in Melee would mean a stock. We're getting used to the new game, though.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
Nice fight. Samus has been my Main sicne the first one so everyone shouted she was nerfed...doesnt look to bad to me ^_^. Ill be playing both Samus/ZSS alot.
Talos21 3 years ago
Purely amazing, both of you.
JustAnotherSide 3 years ago
[tobias]: Missile Canceling in Melee is shooting off a missile just before you hit the ground (but early enough that the missile actually comes out). It cancels the lag from having fired off a missile, and is vital to Samus players.
In Brawl, almost everything that Samus does in the air autocancels, missiles included.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
What exactly is missile canceling, and how do you perform it? Also is it very important to Samus users?
tehSnid 3 years ago
oh shi, Hylian and Tobias fighting is too much awesome for this game to process.
Missiles look great, and they're even more annoying now that they home.
The grapple has NO landing lag and decent knockback?
It looks like maining Samus through all of SSB continues to be a good choice...
MechaSoul 3 years ago
They can home in Melee too stupid.
EmoChildOfDoom 3 years ago
Now that it has a little better knockback, the grapple beam has some potential as an attack...anyone know if other moves like this (e.g., the hookshots) have similar properties?
jasirox 3 years ago
they do.
i don't know about the hookshots knockback but at least the lack of lag is true for all aerial tethers
timmyduboy 3 years ago
[tobias]: The weakness that they have is range. Samus' grapple is ridiculously long, which is what makes it so useful in this way.
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
Yay for missle canceling
exactlythatsthepoint 3 years ago 2
brawl pros at work
Hawke90 3 years ago
Since l-cancel was removed, new metagame is not to have attacks that release instantly like shine, but to have moves that have no lag like the grapple beam.
tobor77 3 years ago 2
The improved Samus metagame
Evildoc13 3 years ago
... and Spamus once again becomes a valid moniker.
puppykupz 3 years ago
Grapple beam is good, don't take it unsrsly
xzbiytezx 3 years ago 5
lol short hop grapple beam
nice match
LavaEdge324 3 years ago
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Great match. But was it really necessary to use missles and even the grapple beam that much?
WolfLink64 3 years ago
it's the new style of fighting with samus, im gonna have to use that when brawl is released on the 9th :D this was a very good match and i didn't know that double missle was still gonna be in it! i was a little disappointed about the information that my cousin gave me that samus wasn't going to be able to double missle anymore, but now that i've seen the true pros (yay) im very excited about brawl!
synwulf 3 years ago
Geez, guys. I was just asking a question. I wasn't flaming or anything. What gives?
WolfLink64 3 years ago
haha nice
layupfreak 3 years ago
they fight so similar!
1337Sess 3 years ago
That was a pretty cool game.
Zinth 3 years ago
lol hadouken! hadouken! pretty sweet fight.
aznforce817 3 years ago
Nice match
Do you use the GC controller?
sirplaysalot 3 years ago
Yes, we both do.
Hylian88 3 years ago
Samus dittos are hilarious.
ShinyFloatzel 3 years ago
GFG
Protomang 3 years ago
Great match. Vids like this make me want Brawl even more.
jackace403 3 years ago
That was a great match.
sammycakes2604 3 years ago
haha nice
Gimpyfish62 3 years ago 3
ISAIIIIIIIII
KylianXelKythe 3 years ago
Hylian, the two of us need to have sex now so we can produce a Hars_Pirate offspring.
SarsPirate 3 years ago 2
Homing missiles + sexy new Grapple Beam = win.
PiesCanFly 3 years ago
MISSLES AHOY
Twisttheawesome 3 years ago
Looks like Samus (still) has a great aerial game. =0
Fatalizer 3 years ago
Excellent Samus ditto. That combo at 00:13 seconds by Hylian was crazy. o.o
TheKoopaBros 3 years ago 2
what he said about the combo
sora1220 3 years ago