@wizardmori If only we could be unified and under the name of "united spieces of earth" and have a flag of earth. No nationalism, no religion, no hate. Just love and education. So much would get accomplished.
This does not inspire me at all. I can see jupiter every night for around 6 months out of the year at an observatory if im so inclined. Why would doing this be important at all?
@WOAHyourBoat He is talking about 5-10 people around the world doing using their regular home hardware and some high end amateur astronomy equipment something that not so long ago took NASA millions upon millions of dollars to accomplish.
As with many things inventive minds do, they wish to do it to show that it can be done. It is a clear illustration of what we CAN do as a society, if most of us didn't spend our time watching Jersey Shore and letting our brains rot.
@john17972 Don't think of it as being one with all the idiots of the world. Think of it as being one with all the people in the world that saw this video and didn't give @WOAHyourBoat's response. (He thinks it is boring.)
You won't be one with the likes of him, so feel safe. Otherwise there would be a danger of IQ Leakage.
Matter and mind are not separate, they are aspects of one energy. Look at the mind as a function of matter and you have science; look at matter as the product of the mind and you have religion.
@AresExodus yes, we must have more sentient and self-aware of the backgrounds people like him! that would possibly lead people out of the darkness. Like the Greeks have thought, philosophers should be running the government.
@pahtar A long as you want to be picky...those were not earth rise pictures from the moon...they were earth rise like pictures from orbit around the moon. They definitely were not from the moon, and I strictly speaking the earth was eclipsed by the moon, and was coming out of eclipse. I mean that is what the word means. Sunrise is the illusion of the sun rising while standing on a large globe that seems flat.
I think you need to be ON the surface to get earthrise.
@zippydebrain The moon is gravitationally locked to the Earth, so one side always faces us. Given that it's impossible to see an Earthrise by just standing on the surface. If one were just at the edge relative to the Earth one would see the Earth in the same rise/set position all the time, but you have to be moving quickly (e.g. in orbit) to see it rise or set.
@pahtar Yes, true enough, which basically means that nobody got an actual earth rise picture as such. It is the earth coming out of eclipse. Now the fact that the term 'sunrise' is an ancient misunderstanding of the universe that we still use today makes it hard to use the basis on which the expression was formed as an argument against using 'earth rise' unless you are actually on the moon, but it seems to me at least that this is how it should be used. It may look like an earth rise; it is not.
Although from the point of view that the you can call it an earthrise picture at all, either both can call it that or neither can per say, except that you can in fact simulate earth rise on the moon by DRIVING on it.
I don't know that they did that mind you, but that is the only legitimate way to get an image that resembles an actual earth rise.
@Thundapinky Atheists deny evolution? Oh my! That is, most certainly, news to me! On the contrary: All the atheists that I personally know, all the youtube atheists that I know about, and myself who is an atheist, all accept evolution as fact. I have never even heard of an atheist that denies evolution. Are you sure you are not confusing atheists with theists because there are plenty of theists that deny evolution?
my 6 yr old nephew set me straight one night looking at the stars from his backyard.. he said aren't the stars amazing? to which i said yeah kinda makes you want to reach out and touch one doesn't it?... and he pondered my ? for a few seconds be fore responding uncle Ted, we already are! ...
unity is a weapon of mass 'construction'
remember as you shrug this off...
the love that you with hold, becomes the pain you carry !
Seriously, if we divide and feel different from each other in small countries like Belgium, how can we think to explore and discover everything else that awaits us beyond our atmosphere?
They each contained thousands of galaxies. Hubble looked at a piece of sky so small it may be considered "nothing" to the human eye or even other telescopes and saw roughly 3,000 and 10,000 galaxies (respectively) in the two photos. If they were more widely known, seen, and understood in our society people could grasp the unity you refer to. It doesn't help though it wasn't made a publicly viewed event.
This is a quite interesting and marvelous idea, but I believe we already have the technology, and did the next thing to cause such a moment of unity as described when we viewed earth's rise from the lunar surface. It is called the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. Twice, Several years apart I believe. Hubble looked at an incredibly small sliver of sky, the equivalent of a dime on the moon for like 9 days, then a different patch several years later for 11 days.
Dude, he was against the koran burning thing. He was actively going against the book burning, saying that people should read those books instead of destroying them. And to be honest, religion is one of the main factors preventing us from becoming one. It's self-righteous pricks who believe that only their faith is that chosen by God that open rifts between people.
@burdenuponsociety Look, get out of the Thunderworld for a minute, look at reality, and tell me how many notches better is Thunderf00t than pastor Jones? 1 Notch? Hardly.... I am betting my testicles that even if religion mysteriously evaporated one day, we would still need 1000 years to embrace our oneness. And even if Religion is the main obstacle, Thunderf00t is not addressing it in any effective way right now. He is barely making more fundamentalist. His Science vids were effective though.
@graphattic How is he making more fundamentalist exactly?
I don't think believe in the truth about reality ( the same reality you are reading this comment in, you can touch, breathe, feel your existence here) can be called fundamentalist.
Thunderf00t is just a smart man who chooses to spend his time making the world a better place, no matter how insignificant that effort may be. You may disagree with him but that doesn't mean you can't respect such a noble agenda.
And I would have to agree with dlite922, I don't believe the truth about reality because reality isn't there for us to have any beliefs about.
The world you touch, taste, hear, smell and see is just a fabrication of the mind, a puppet show.
TF gets on my nerves when he starts bating rag heads, but this is great, it has real sense of wonder and I'm sure it will turn lots of people on to the real mystery of our place in the cosmos. That this rock has bred creatures capable of understanding it; strange indeed, and reason for pride, hope.
@allahtheserpent Thor is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, destruction, fertility, healing, and the protection of mankind. I think that assuming it was a being that created everything is a bit of a F-allah-acy (Pardon the pun), we thought it was a BEING that created lightening until we found a natural cause, we thought it was a BEING that made the sun rise until we found a natural cause, now we think it was a BEING that created everything?
No. Read "Why does e=mc2" by Brian Cox. Nothing in the universe is static. We do not know what we are relative to. So how can we measure speed then? There is no such thing as absolute space - we are not on a grid - if I was was to say I'll be back in this part of space in ten years, this cannot be possible because we, our solar system, spins around a central point, as does our sun around the galaxy. Get what I mean? Read the book!
I alway's wonder how you can see an earth rising when you are standing on the moon. I mean, you only see 1 side of the moon, so that is "fixed" on the earth ( moons rotating time around the earth is the same as around its own axel ) so if its fixed on the earth, you should see it all the time, not rising.
If im wrong, please say so! I really need an answer :)
@AnglicanApologist72 Exactly. You replaced Catholics with Jews and Lent with Torah, then left out economy. I replaced fish with people, Jews with Christians and left out the Torah. See the similarity?
Well, I believe in a "God", but I don't consider myself to be one of the idiotic Christians, or the angry Islamists, I think my God is a better god, not a divine entity, but simply a creator, an initiator of the universe. It could be a machine, it could be a biological being, it could(although I doubt it) be magic.
My belief has never tainted my identity, I never became blind to the world, to science.
I swear, 90% of this stuff could have been resolved through reading a book.
I cannot tell you how much i lament the light pollution where i live. Maybe one day we will actualy send men and women to see this spectical with the unaided eye. Prehaps to even raise children under the celestial orb we call jupiter.
This global consciousness awareness is similar to what Teilhard de Chardin wrote about in his description of the emerging "noosphere." All things in the universe moving toward the Omega Point motivated by love and compassion and not selfishness and power acquisition.
Why does anybody care about stars and planets? What good comes of them? I understand that the physics of stars has potential benefit however mapping their locations seams completely trivial.
@ThoseWhoStayUofM It's kind of like building model train sets/cars etc, it's just a hobby some people find ridiculous and some people are very passionate about, you're right there's very little practical use to it, but to some people it just looks pretty
@cidkh3 The problem I have with T-f00ts fascination is that he has replaced God with astronomy. He claims that a belief in God has no practical use in science and advancement of the species. He claims that it serves as a distraction. However, under T-F00ts own world view, does this not equally apply to the mapping of stars and planets relative to earth's location? How is one any more useful than the other? At least Christianity espouses a moral code that encourages civil conduct...
@ThoseWhoStayUofM are you actually saying that a 2000 year old book that demands everyone different from totally indoctrinated mindless husks be stoned to death or burned alive, which also teaches to fear someone you are supposed to love more than your own family and to only do good deeds because you think daddy christ will bring you to heaven is better than stargazing as a hobby?
" At least Christianity espouses a moral code that encourages civil conduct "
- A moral code that will get you life in prison ... you're gonna do so much cherry picking you'll look over your shoulder and the Christian moral code will be invisible.
@ThoseWhoStayUofM stargazing does give us practical information about the universe and can help us get a clearer understanding of physics and the formation of our own world. It can also help us figure out universal principles that we can use for engineering and other study. Your holy texts can't do that and even if they offer a moral system the system is at best no better than what a secular society produces and at worst is a tool for tyrants and bigots to use the divine to harm their fellows
@Darkstar1484 No it doesn't. I'm a theoretical physics major at the University of Michigan. The location of stars and planets does not contribute to our understanding of physical principles. Not to mention the fact that programs which graph the locations of stars and planets already exist and are hundreds of magnitude more efficient than a human observer.
@ThoseWhoStayUofM >>Why does anybody care about stars and planets? What good comes of them?<<
A great good came out of Galileo looking at the Moon with a telescope for the first time in human history. It revolutionized our understanding of ourselves and of everything around us.
Dismissive, and not reasonably demonstrable. Thunderf00t is passionate about a great number of things, and actually seems reasonably happy with his life. Being happy is an entirely subjective thing, and relates to a person actualizing, having a life on their own terms. Thunderf00t's primary contention is that a rational world is a better world, and he is constantly references things that have enriched his life.
As someone who watched the moon landing as a child, it hard to believe that we have never gone back, or, for that matter, gone froward from there, and that all the men who ever walked on the moon are now old and soon, children will learn about it only in history books.
My gosh.....he sounds like Jesus Christ God Himself who prayed that we may be one!! Does he even know how much he borrows from the Holy Bible?! LOL. CATHOLIC STATE for the future please!
You had your chance for a global Catholic Dominion, it was called the dark ages. As you watch membership in catholic churches continue to drop off and dwindle, just remember that you had your chance and fucked it up so completely that the institution itself has never recovered.
If you think the reformation was a pesky, it would simply pale when compared to the mass revolt that would occur if by some fucking miracle Catholicism once again became relevant on the world stage.
Wow thunderf00t out of all your videos this one actually seems intelligent. To say we are all alone in the universe yet we are alone in the universe together really opened my eyes.
Jupiter just vanished too near the sun to observe withing the last few weeks, so in six months [September] it should be at opposition. Meanwhile Mars and Saturn are coming into view again. Jupiter is a more visually accessible and pleasing target with its four large moons and turbulent atmosphere, but a trial run might be done sooner with Saturn or Mars as its target.
I think you're not giving us enough credit, Tf00t. Yes, the moment was short-lived, but not its impact. The environmental movement wouldn't have come so far (and yes, it still has a long way to go) without it. Many people have continued to see mankind as one, and brought up their children to do the same.
@brutsi I think what he is trying to say though, is what we percieve as movement, is nothing of the sort, it is us moving that gives us that perception.
@brutsi Over the course of 8 hours the movement of Jupiter and certainly not the stars is not particularly noticeable in respect to their position from the earth. I do agree that the rotation of Jupiter and the orbit of its moon could constitute movement but without equipment you would not notice that.
Earlier today I was putting together a grocery list, and one of my roommates asked me to pick up some fish fillets. According to him, they're for lent - he can't eat meat on Fridays.
I asked him, "Why Fridays?"
He answered, "I dunno, Jesus died on a Friday, maybe that has something to do with it...."
I just kind of look at him.
Then, I kid you not, he says this verbatim, "I just observe it, I don't understand it."
@RustyJeepLicorice Actually, your friend is quite correct. The Faith is ancient and complex, so I'd bet that few Catholics could cite the authority for their local spiritual culture (in this case, it's Pope Paul VI, Apostolic Constitution on Penance, 1966, plus norms set by local bishops). Most simply play along, in the hopes that following traditions will win them friends and make them a better person -- which is generally true. So I wouldn't call it "insincere," just normal human behavior.
@RustyJeepLicorice The real reason was because early in Christianity's take over of the world, the Catholic Church was the central government of most (if not all) of Europe. For a few years, there was economic depression among the fishing industry if you could call it an industry. So, to promote the fishermen and all the middle men, and to boost the economy of Europe, Lent was instilled by the Catholic Church so more people would eat more fish.
@hossrex It's called a metaphor buddy. I don't think you were supposed to take that as a literal 'we are one being'. Maybe a 'we are one race' which is true.
try thinking of being the same as others not as a loss of individual identity under some kind of conformist monoculture or whatever but rather as an appreciation of the ways we're the same, From the way children all laugh the same to how we all need the same basic things to survive etc.
It's accurate to say you are unique if your perspective exists as bitwise comparison betwen people but let your lens zoom out and you might find that the bit level isn't the best way to view 'Us'.
I was trying to convey what IMO the intention of these words were being used to describe by the author because I think that you have replied as you have by only considering what you think these words mean.
Do you really mean to imply that:
appreciating a same reality == cultural homogenization?
common ground == loss of individuality?
A gov unifying countries wouldn't bring the same benefits as a tribe unifying individuals?
Fair enough. There isnt really any evidence to contradict the moonlanding that hasnt already been throughly debunked. I remember doing a lot of research on it when I was having this debate with my friend and I came to the conclusion that in order to fake it, the US government would have to have spent about just as much money lying about it than actually doing it. America have done some crazy stuff but that seems a bit too crazy for me.
Honestly, how does this video have anything to do with religion? It's a piece of scientific art that will be beautiful if pulled off successfully. Why taint it with needless discussion about petty squabbles like this?
"...the many eyes of the world, brought together through technology."
Well said, The religious & superstitious would argued otherwise, though I find it incredibly ironic, I mean, think about it... These folks would praised their all-powerful deity over the internet.
The internet: made possible via SCIENCE.
Using science to spread magic. That's a brilliant punchline if I've ever saw one. LOL
Anyways, cheers, Thunderf00t.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some of us to grasp?
Umm...That's actually NOT how LCD displays work. It'd be FAR too long for me to explain how they *actually* work, so at least go read how they work on Wikipedia, you know, just so you know!
Pretty cool man. Almost like a remake of Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" bringing 2011 technology into the picture as a way for more people to experience this.
I think with this perspective most of the time but the vast majority of the human race seems oblivious to what we really are, how small we really are. It's so ironic how a lot of people shy away from this because they don't want to feel small because when I think about it I just feel like I'm a part of something so much greater.
@nequillim : Fake huh , ask a Russian about that , dont you think that our competitors would tout that if in reality it was faked ? damn right they would , but they don't , they admit defeat in the space race...sorry , oh and your thoughts on science and the Qur'an, say what you like, I grant you , your thoughts on Allah are nothing more than giggle fodder for the rest of the world
I don't think Thunderfoot would mine if I tell everyone about the new book out by Bart Ehrman- FORGED. It is his best book to date, but anyone who's read Ehrmans books wont be surprised by that statement. This one will piss off allot of Christians. Highly Highly recommended.
@ Tf00t: I'm not sure how you do it, but there are people from NASA who are talking about their space programs and exploration programs, and they lack the connectedness to their topics while talking about them that you manage to get across. It makes it that much more interesting to watch it! Thanx!
Aliens: LOL They think moon travel is awesome?
HellomynameisN 6 days ago
I finish settling and unify the whole world.
Oneself self-finishes being united gathered up, too.
世界全体を纏めきる、自己自分自身も纏まりきる。
wizardmori 1 month ago
@wizardmori If only we could be unified and under the name of "united spieces of earth" and have a flag of earth. No nationalism, no religion, no hate. Just love and education. So much would get accomplished.
HellomynameisN 6 days ago
"It was the stars and the telescope that were the only fixed frame of reference"
These simple words leave me in awe, and for that I thank you TF00t.
QueQuoiHuh 4 months ago
Celestia that TF rocks !! great software
Neueregel 5 months ago
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vigra83 6 months ago
Carl Sagan? Is that you? We've missed you.
Dweltpanic 7 months ago 5
@Dweltpanic Just imagine them both together on youtube.
HugoNav9 5 months ago
This sounds like a wonderful and beautiful idea.
I absolutely love the time lapse of the night sky. So moving and awe inspiring.
angelwings1086 7 months ago
superb idea !!! I`m looking forward to see your achievements. Hope you will have a sounding success !
cunuc 8 months ago
This does not inspire me at all. I can see jupiter every night for around 6 months out of the year at an observatory if im so inclined. Why would doing this be important at all?
WOAHyourBoat 8 months ago
@WOAHyourBoat He is talking about 5-10 people around the world doing using their regular home hardware and some high end amateur astronomy equipment something that not so long ago took NASA millions upon millions of dollars to accomplish.
As with many things inventive minds do, they wish to do it to show that it can be done. It is a clear illustration of what we CAN do as a society, if most of us didn't spend our time watching Jersey Shore and letting our brains rot.
zippydebrain 8 months ago
I don't want to be one with all of the idiots of the world.
john17972 9 months ago
@john17972 Don't think of it as being one with all the idiots of the world. Think of it as being one with all the people in the world that saw this video and didn't give @WOAHyourBoat's response. (He thinks it is boring.)
You won't be one with the likes of him, so feel safe. Otherwise there would be a danger of IQ Leakage.
zippydebrain 8 months ago
Matter and mind are not separate, they are aspects of one energy. Look at the mind as a function of matter and you have science; look at matter as the product of the mind and you have religion.
metalwarrior888 9 months ago
If even 10% of the world's population was like you TF, we would be a better race tenfold.
AresExodus 9 months ago 4
@AresExodus yes, we must have more sentient and self-aware of the backgrounds people like him! that would possibly lead people out of the darkness. Like the Greeks have thought, philosophers should be running the government.
TRINZE4 9 months ago
@AresExodus that is my opinion.
TRINZE4 9 months ago
The first Earthrise pictures were from Apollo 8, which flew in August 1968, not in 1969.
pahtar 10 months ago
@pahtar A long as you want to be picky...those were not earth rise pictures from the moon...they were earth rise like pictures from orbit around the moon. They definitely were not from the moon, and I strictly speaking the earth was eclipsed by the moon, and was coming out of eclipse. I mean that is what the word means. Sunrise is the illusion of the sun rising while standing on a large globe that seems flat.
I think you need to be ON the surface to get earthrise.
As long as we are being picky
zippydebrain 8 months ago
@zippydebrain The moon is gravitationally locked to the Earth, so one side always faces us. Given that it's impossible to see an Earthrise by just standing on the surface. If one were just at the edge relative to the Earth one would see the Earth in the same rise/set position all the time, but you have to be moving quickly (e.g. in orbit) to see it rise or set.
While we're being picky.
pahtar 8 months ago
@pahtar Yes, true enough, which basically means that nobody got an actual earth rise picture as such. It is the earth coming out of eclipse. Now the fact that the term 'sunrise' is an ancient misunderstanding of the universe that we still use today makes it hard to use the basis on which the expression was formed as an argument against using 'earth rise' unless you are actually on the moon, but it seems to me at least that this is how it should be used. It may look like an earth rise; it is not.
zippydebrain 8 months ago
cont...
Although from the point of view that the you can call it an earthrise picture at all, either both can call it that or neither can per say, except that you can in fact simulate earth rise on the moon by DRIVING on it.
I don't know that they did that mind you, but that is the only legitimate way to get an image that resembles an actual earth rise.
zippydebrain 8 months ago
You've saved the World thunderf00t at least for a brief moment now its time to go back to fucking each other over.
hamnose 10 months ago
@Thundapinky Atheists deny evolution? Oh my! That is, most certainly, news to me! On the contrary: All the atheists that I personally know, all the youtube atheists that I know about, and myself who is an atheist, all accept evolution as fact. I have never even heard of an atheist that denies evolution. Are you sure you are not confusing atheists with theists because there are plenty of theists that deny evolution?
Ridleysama 10 months ago
i see some comments making fun of this ...
my 6 yr old nephew set me straight one night looking at the stars from his backyard.. he said aren't the stars amazing? to which i said yeah kinda makes you want to reach out and touch one doesn't it?... and he pondered my ? for a few seconds be fore responding uncle Ted, we already are! ...
unity is a weapon of mass 'construction'
remember as you shrug this off...
the love that you with hold, becomes the pain you carry !
teddymarvelle 10 months ago
Seriously, if we divide and feel different from each other in small countries like Belgium, how can we think to explore and discover everything else that awaits us beyond our atmosphere?
zenoparodie 10 months ago
Take a healthy dose of magic mushrooms, after your ego dissolves you'll never forget the truth and magnificence of our Oneness.
buckfushes 10 months ago
@buckfushes seems to me like you are very into those "magic mushrooms"
Thatguitardude99 10 months ago
I'm truly in awe that this comes to you naturally TF, and I soak it up with tremendous appreciation.
Quixoticah 10 months ago
youre voice is amazing <3
maru14able 10 months ago 15
Not to be creepy, but, the best thing about your videos, aside from the information, is your voice.
GTXRussianXTG 10 months ago
They each contained thousands of galaxies. Hubble looked at a piece of sky so small it may be considered "nothing" to the human eye or even other telescopes and saw roughly 3,000 and 10,000 galaxies (respectively) in the two photos. If they were more widely known, seen, and understood in our society people could grasp the unity you refer to. It doesn't help though it wasn't made a publicly viewed event.
Mstrjedi1852 10 months ago
@Mstrjedi1852 I'd just like to add that anyone wanting to see the pics you're taliking about should google "hubble deep field".
Tapecutter59 10 months ago
This is a quite interesting and marvelous idea, but I believe we already have the technology, and did the next thing to cause such a moment of unity as described when we viewed earth's rise from the lunar surface. It is called the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. Twice, Several years apart I believe. Hubble looked at an incredibly small sliver of sky, the equivalent of a dime on the moon for like 9 days, then a different patch several years later for 11 days.
Mstrjedi1852 10 months ago
We are all one? Now lets burn some Books? How much of a sneaky lying hypocrite turd have you become Thunderf00t?
graphattic 10 months ago
@graphattic
Dude, he was against the koran burning thing. He was actively going against the book burning, saying that people should read those books instead of destroying them. And to be honest, religion is one of the main factors preventing us from becoming one. It's self-righteous pricks who believe that only their faith is that chosen by God that open rifts between people.
burdenuponsociety 10 months ago
@burdenuponsociety Look, get out of the Thunderworld for a minute, look at reality, and tell me how many notches better is Thunderf00t than pastor Jones? 1 Notch? Hardly.... I am betting my testicles that even if religion mysteriously evaporated one day, we would still need 1000 years to embrace our oneness. And even if Religion is the main obstacle, Thunderf00t is not addressing it in any effective way right now. He is barely making more fundamentalist. His Science vids were effective though.
graphattic 10 months ago
@graphattic How is he making more fundamentalist exactly?
I don't think believe in the truth about reality ( the same reality you are reading this comment in, you can touch, breathe, feel your existence here) can be called fundamentalist.
Please look up the meaning of the word.
dlite922 10 months ago
@dlite922 You are fucktarded
graphattic 10 months ago
@graphattic you just accidentally a word! OMG!! Good Job Dude!
dlite922 10 months ago
@dlite922 Well, when I run into people that strawman the hell out of reality, I need to be creative, thnx!
graphattic 10 months ago
@graphattic
Thunderf00t is just a smart man who chooses to spend his time making the world a better place, no matter how insignificant that effort may be. You may disagree with him but that doesn't mean you can't respect such a noble agenda.
And I would have to agree with dlite922, I don't believe the truth about reality because reality isn't there for us to have any beliefs about.
The world you touch, taste, hear, smell and see is just a fabrication of the mind, a puppet show.
Kerouac0deciple 10 months ago
shame that jupiters gone until winter now. nice telescope.
xapanda1x 10 months ago
@xapanda1x indeed looks quite expensive
CreedChrist 10 months ago
TF gets on my nerves when he starts bating rag heads, but this is great, it has real sense of wonder and I'm sure it will turn lots of people on to the real mystery of our place in the cosmos. That this rock has bred creatures capable of understanding it; strange indeed, and reason for pride, hope.
tomfool43 10 months ago
@MrMultiPat What are you talking about?
Go crawl under that rock, adults are having a conversation.
ulgrum 10 months ago
@ulgrum People who post links and say "check out _____" are self serving losers.
MrMultiPat 10 months ago
relativity, lol, telescope not moving, lol. you would surely be considered mad in the days that 'modern' christians ruled.
vengencefrom1979 10 months ago
'104 dislikes' Why! what is not to like about this marvelous little video?
Mackeson3 10 months ago 49
@Mackeson3 They're all jealous that TF00t and his videos are amazing. Just ignore him.
DavidsaurusRex 10 months ago
@Mackeson3 They are close minded
treasuredroperX 10 months ago
@Mackeson3 I would like to think it's the sticklers, disliking it because of the single factual mistake (static stars).
But somehow I think people who dislike thunderf00t aren't typically sharp enough to pick up on that.
trj1370 10 months ago
@Mackeson3 the thunderfoot's crowd of haters , or lets just call them- the people that are envious of thunder's intelect lol
Regards.
Ricosophy 9 months ago
@allahtheserpent Thor is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, destruction, fertility, healing, and the protection of mankind. I think that assuming it was a being that created everything is a bit of a F-allah-acy (Pardon the pun), we thought it was a BEING that created lightening until we found a natural cause, we thought it was a BEING that made the sun rise until we found a natural cause, now we think it was a BEING that created everything?
shandcunt 10 months ago
@allahtheserpent
So why are you complaining about something someone else does while doing the exact same thing?
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 10 months ago
I wish we could go to mars
jileel 10 months ago
No. Read "Why does e=mc2" by Brian Cox. Nothing in the universe is static. We do not know what we are relative to. So how can we measure speed then? There is no such thing as absolute space - we are not on a grid - if I was was to say I'll be back in this part of space in ten years, this cannot be possible because we, our solar system, spins around a central point, as does our sun around the galaxy. Get what I mean? Read the book!
roborovskihamsters 10 months ago
@allahtheserpent
"Rhetoric, speeches, no substance."
....kinda like your comment eh?
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 10 months ago
@allahtheserpent What creator? you mean thor right?
shandcunt 10 months ago
What the fuck, Thunderf00t has 129,067 subscribers. Why only 3% of his subscribers fucking vote for his video. Unbefuckinglievable.
ytfmichaelxu 10 months ago 2
Kudos and Much Luck for Your Advancement for All Our Benefit .
Ipoetize 10 months ago
Static stars???
ExistentialExistent 10 months ago
1. we are probably not alone in the Universe
2. just b\c we are irrelevant when compared to the cosmic scale doesn't mean we are "one" or "together", it just means that we are irrelevant
Tolstoievsky 10 months ago
TF - making hate-vids about Israel's enemies. You'll never find him criticising Israel, ever. Because he's a good jewish boy.
MoscowMaestro 10 months ago
@MoscowMaestro what?
That's just.... so irrelevant and retarded. I can't even begin to... just.... I don't even...
jimthehappymonkey1 10 months ago
@jimthehappymonkey1 Irrelevant? A professional muslim-hater turns out to be jewish? And you think that's "irrelevant"?? ROFL!!!!
MoscowMaestro 10 months ago
@MoscowMaestro yeah he looks like a proper jew as well
Tolstoievsky 10 months ago
I alway's wonder how you can see an earth rising when you are standing on the moon. I mean, you only see 1 side of the moon, so that is "fixed" on the earth ( moons rotating time around the earth is the same as around its own axel ) so if its fixed on the earth, you should see it all the time, not rising.
If im wrong, please say so! I really need an answer :)
Debbie321lopez 10 months ago
@AnglicanApologist72 Exactly. You replaced Catholics with Jews and Lent with Torah, then left out economy. I replaced fish with people, Jews with Christians and left out the Torah. See the similarity?
LucasI3434 10 months ago
@AnglicanApologist72 It still had nothing to do with eating. That's close enough right??? *cough* *sarcasm*
LucasI3434 10 months ago
@AnglicanApologist72 Christians are metaphoric cannibals. THAT'S about how much relevence your comment has in response to mine.
LucasI3434 10 months ago
Sorry TG, Carl Sagan said it better. ;)
freelistic 10 months ago
I am so in favor of this. Very spiritual, in the "abstract core of being" sense of the world.
Foot0fGod 10 months ago
Well, I believe in a "God", but I don't consider myself to be one of the idiotic Christians, or the angry Islamists, I think my God is a better god, not a divine entity, but simply a creator, an initiator of the universe. It could be a machine, it could be a biological being, it could(although I doubt it) be magic.
My belief has never tainted my identity, I never became blind to the world, to science.
I swear, 90% of this stuff could have been resolved through reading a book.
Oh the stupidity!
SonarWavePulse 10 months ago
Yes, I know what he meant, and yes I was just being a douche, but I do actually not like imprecision. Thats why i said it.
brutsi 10 months ago
This guys voice is annoying
weepaul666 10 months ago
@weepaul666 Your comment is annoying.
AnavrinSM64 10 months ago
I cannot tell you how much i lament the light pollution where i live. Maybe one day we will actualy send men and women to see this spectical with the unaided eye. Prehaps to even raise children under the celestial orb we call jupiter.
Felhaven 10 months ago
Maybe I'll buy a telescope to watch this in October 2011.
DarkZerkerX 10 months ago 2
Why the fuck would give this thumbs down?
eksyte 10 months ago
@eksyte penis envy
adsensus 10 months ago
Amazing! That in my favorites! I have that program at 2:30. Celestia, right?
LilDrummerBoy74 10 months ago
I want off this rock
damaged01 11 months ago 2
This global consciousness awareness is similar to what Teilhard de Chardin wrote about in his description of the emerging "noosphere." All things in the universe moving toward the Omega Point motivated by love and compassion and not selfishness and power acquisition.
aartisan44 11 months ago
Why does anybody care about stars and planets? What good comes of them? I understand that the physics of stars has potential benefit however mapping their locations seams completely trivial.
ThoseWhoStayUofM 11 months ago
@ThoseWhoStayUofM It's kind of like building model train sets/cars etc, it's just a hobby some people find ridiculous and some people are very passionate about, you're right there's very little practical use to it, but to some people it just looks pretty
cidkh3 11 months ago
@cidkh3 The problem I have with T-f00ts fascination is that he has replaced God with astronomy. He claims that a belief in God has no practical use in science and advancement of the species. He claims that it serves as a distraction. However, under T-F00ts own world view, does this not equally apply to the mapping of stars and planets relative to earth's location? How is one any more useful than the other? At least Christianity espouses a moral code that encourages civil conduct...
ThoseWhoStayUofM 11 months ago
@ThoseWhoStayUofM are you actually saying that a 2000 year old book that demands everyone different from totally indoctrinated mindless husks be stoned to death or burned alive, which also teaches to fear someone you are supposed to love more than your own family and to only do good deeds because you think daddy christ will bring you to heaven is better than stargazing as a hobby?
TheCanadianArchetype 11 months ago
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@ThoseWhoStayUofM
" At least Christianity espouses a moral code that encourages civil conduct "
- A moral code that will get you life in prison ... you're gonna do so much cherry picking you'll look over your shoulder and the Christian moral code will be invisible.
NefariousVirtuoso88 11 months ago
@ThoseWhoStayUofM stargazing does give us practical information about the universe and can help us get a clearer understanding of physics and the formation of our own world. It can also help us figure out universal principles that we can use for engineering and other study. Your holy texts can't do that and even if they offer a moral system the system is at best no better than what a secular society produces and at worst is a tool for tyrants and bigots to use the divine to harm their fellows
Darkstar1484 11 months ago 2
@Darkstar1484 No it doesn't. I'm a theoretical physics major at the University of Michigan. The location of stars and planets does not contribute to our understanding of physical principles. Not to mention the fact that programs which graph the locations of stars and planets already exist and are hundreds of magnitude more efficient than a human observer.
ThoseWhoStayUofM 10 months ago
@ThoseWhoStayUofM Yes it is trivial, but there are a great many things humans do that are trivial.
TheCanadianArchetype 11 months ago
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@ThoseWhoStayUofM >>Why does anybody care about stars and planets? What good comes of them?<<
A great good came out of Galileo looking at the Moon with a telescope for the first time in human history. It revolutionized our understanding of ourselves and of everything around us.
That is why we care.
RustyTube 10 months ago
Can't wait to see the outcome of this project.
laraesque 11 months ago
Thunderfoot is unhappy person
heaton916 11 months ago
@heaton916
Dismissive, and not reasonably demonstrable. Thunderf00t is passionate about a great number of things, and actually seems reasonably happy with his life. Being happy is an entirely subjective thing, and relates to a person actualizing, having a life on their own terms. Thunderf00t's primary contention is that a rational world is a better world, and he is constantly references things that have enriched his life.
Friendough 11 months ago
thank you thunderfoot.
huffleypuffley 11 months ago 9
As someone who watched the moon landing as a child, it hard to believe that we have never gone back, or, for that matter, gone froward from there, and that all the men who ever walked on the moon are now old and soon, children will learn about it only in history books.
aes53 11 months ago
@aes53 no... we cant allow that to be...
dammit it I feel so helpless... the best we can do is spread true knowledge like this...for now.
viicISrotcib 11 months ago
My gosh.....he sounds like Jesus Christ God Himself who prayed that we may be one!! Does he even know how much he borrows from the Holy Bible?! LOL. CATHOLIC STATE for the future please!
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula
You had your chance for a global Catholic Dominion, it was called the dark ages. As you watch membership in catholic churches continue to drop off and dwindle, just remember that you had your chance and fucked it up so completely that the institution itself has never recovered.
If you think the reformation was a pesky, it would simply pale when compared to the mass revolt that would occur if by some fucking miracle Catholicism once again became relevant on the world stage.
Dream0Asylum 11 months ago
@amaqula Please fuck off idiot.
mikerules999 11 months ago
It's a great idea. I'd love to see you pull it off. Please keep us updated.
1Lucretian1 11 months ago
ilu ilu ilu ilu <3
HeyRuka 11 months ago 8
As an amateur astronomer, I would LOVE to see this happen. Best of luck, TFoot.
davidmerriss 11 months ago
Wow thunderf00t out of all your videos this one actually seems intelligent. To say we are all alone in the universe yet we are alone in the universe together really opened my eyes.
Onetruthrgv 11 months ago
Awe-inspiring work <3
pawsoned 11 months ago
The earth never rises on the moon. It is fixed. You should have made it clear that the video was shot while orbiting the moon.
Eugensdiet 11 months ago
Jupiter just vanished too near the sun to observe withing the last few weeks, so in six months [September] it should be at opposition. Meanwhile Mars and Saturn are coming into view again. Jupiter is a more visually accessible and pleasing target with its four large moons and turbulent atmosphere, but a trial run might be done sooner with Saturn or Mars as its target.
MsMrNoface 11 months ago
I think you're not giving us enough credit, Tf00t. Yes, the moment was short-lived, but not its impact. The environmental movement wouldn't have come so far (and yes, it still has a long way to go) without it. Many people have continued to see mankind as one, and brought up their children to do the same.
EyeLean5280 11 months ago
Dude, nothing in the universe is static. Jupiter and the stars were moving all along.
brutsi 11 months ago 29
@brutsi by that i think he meant that we can't see them move with the naked eye
Foojum 11 months ago
@brutsi yes, but the fact that the earth was spinning was the cause of the stars moving across the sky, not because they were rotating around us
Gnomeman55 11 months ago
@brutsi Yea even the universe itself isn't.
D3admaus 10 months ago
@brutsi I think what he is trying to say though, is what we percieve as movement, is nothing of the sort, it is us moving that gives us that perception.
leftwingextremist 10 months ago
@brutsi Over the course of 8 hours the movement of Jupiter and certainly not the stars is not particularly noticeable in respect to their position from the earth. I do agree that the rotation of Jupiter and the orbit of its moon could constitute movement but without equipment you would not notice that.
WalrusAstronomy 10 months ago
@brutsi Do you not understand relativity?
TheExtremistModerate 10 months ago
@brutsi Perception....still dont get it?
DannyCreator91 10 months ago
@brutsi Not according to relativity.
iphillip1 10 months ago
@brutsi
Except for static electricity.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 10 months ago
@brutsi relatively static
viking977 10 months ago
Did he say ALL people are truely one??!!
This is the thunderbigot channel, isn't it?
it is like Hitler saying Jews are human beings!
Or does he want us to unify so he can divide it again?
edwardtang1977 11 months ago
@edwardtang1977 we are all one, you calling thunderf00t hitler?
thunderf00t gives respect to what deserves respect, science
teedonster 11 months ago
@edwardtang1977 - so, do you always kick people in the ass when you see them struggling to improve their perceptions?
Glad I'm no wife of yours!
EyeLean5280 11 months ago
All the best on your entry Thunderf00t
formless777 11 months ago
Timecube!
mmatvnetful 11 months ago
Wow, a lot of people missed the point of the exercise. Best of luck tf00t.
TheSpoonFedFukWit 11 months ago
nice vid- keep up the good work
sAeZCrVM 11 months ago
holy shit. this is an awesome idea.
ndjarnag 11 months ago
E-beg for science, or fail at debating critics, which one?
clownporn1 11 months ago
good luck brotha.
Displaysac90 11 months ago
Earlier today I was putting together a grocery list, and one of my roommates asked me to pick up some fish fillets. According to him, they're for lent - he can't eat meat on Fridays.
I asked him, "Why Fridays?"
He answered, "I dunno, Jesus died on a Friday, maybe that has something to do with it...."
I just kind of look at him.
Then, I kid you not, he says this verbatim, "I just observe it, I don't understand it."
Now THAT is one sincere Catholic. XP
RustyJeepLicorice 11 months ago 71
@RustyJeepLicorice I could never figure out why fish isn't considered meat.
suferable 11 months ago
@suferable Neither is lamb. At least not in the branch of Judaism I was raised on.
HeyRuka 11 months ago
@RustyJeepLicorice Actually, your friend is quite correct. The Faith is ancient and complex, so I'd bet that few Catholics could cite the authority for their local spiritual culture (in this case, it's Pope Paul VI, Apostolic Constitution on Penance, 1966, plus norms set by local bishops). Most simply play along, in the hopes that following traditions will win them friends and make them a better person -- which is generally true. So I wouldn't call it "insincere," just normal human behavior.
mediamancer 11 months ago
@RustyJeepLicorice The real reason was because early in Christianity's take over of the world, the Catholic Church was the central government of most (if not all) of Europe. For a few years, there was economic depression among the fishing industry if you could call it an industry. So, to promote the fishermen and all the middle men, and to boost the economy of Europe, Lent was instilled by the Catholic Church so more people would eat more fish.
LucasI3434 10 months ago 2
ZOMG! WHO THE HELL WOULD DISLIKE THIS?!?!? FUCKING TROLLS!!!
PalulukanMakto 11 months ago
"We are truly one." OMG, Hope to see you, Thunderf00t at a New Age gathering.
newbetterandhappy 11 months ago
a less eloquent 'pale blue dot'... fuck off thunderfoot. you're no sagan, let alone a poor man's one.
septicvibes 11 months ago
The beauty of humanity is that we are NOT all one.
Science gets things wrong. The status quo can be mistaken.
But the wonder of our differences vets out such mistakes, and due to those difference, the truth will prevail.
Just imagine... if we were "all one" as we stand today... what would that "one" look like? A racist, homophobic, theist?
No thanks. I cherish my uniqueness, and have no time for this mealy mouth "we're all the same bullshit."
Uniqueness is beauty.
hossrex 11 months ago
@hossrex It's called a metaphor buddy. I don't think you were supposed to take that as a literal 'we are one being'. Maybe a 'we are one race' which is true.
Lancersbane 11 months ago
@hossrex
try thinking of being the same as others not as a loss of individual identity under some kind of conformist monoculture or whatever but rather as an appreciation of the ways we're the same, From the way children all laugh the same to how we all need the same basic things to survive etc.
It's accurate to say you are unique if your perspective exists as bitwise comparison betwen people but let your lens zoom out and you might find that the bit level isn't the best way to view 'Us'.
Lunji 11 months ago
@Lunji
Sure. If you play semantics, you can make anything sound like sugar and buttercups.
I value my (and others) individuality enough to have a problem with the idea of the homogenization of humanity, regardless of the semantic context.
Everything you just said could be used as a core principle to bring about a one world government.
Congratulations.
hossrex 11 months ago
@hossrex
I was trying to convey what IMO the intention of these words were being used to describe by the author because I think that you have replied as you have by only considering what you think these words mean.
Do you really mean to imply that:
appreciating a same reality == cultural homogenization?
common ground == loss of individuality?
A gov unifying countries wouldn't bring the same benefits as a tribe unifying individuals?
Or are you just inaccurate with words?
Lunji 11 months ago
@mkwatson92
Fair enough. There isnt really any evidence to contradict the moonlanding that hasnt already been throughly debunked. I remember doing a lot of research on it when I was having this debate with my friend and I came to the conclusion that in order to fake it, the US government would have to have spent about just as much money lying about it than actually doing it. America have done some crazy stuff but that seems a bit too crazy for me.
covac45 11 months ago
blah blah collectivism
nightpotato 11 months ago
Honestly, how does this video have anything to do with religion? It's a piece of scientific art that will be beautiful if pulled off successfully. Why taint it with needless discussion about petty squabbles like this?
dillerboy 11 months ago
that's an amazing idea. i can't wait. :)
maikeru01 11 months ago
Videos like these are why I subscribed here. Great idea!
EmpiricalWin 11 months ago
Wow, powerful video man.
coolair00 11 months ago
Looks like a cool idea! Good luck on the NextUp program and
thanks fro the video :-)
LiberalViewer 11 months ago
Sagan much?
ManDudeYeah 11 months ago
Beautiful!
uglyandbad 11 months ago
once again, I love your videos.....very refreshing
jotohomomoto 11 months ago
Awesome.
Deflecto3 11 months ago
Excellent video.
007Neutrin0 11 months ago
@Raellz If you are at black then the blacks took everything away the moment you went.
Voidic 11 months ago
"...the many eyes of the world, brought together through technology."
Well said, The religious & superstitious would argued otherwise, though I find it incredibly ironic, I mean, think about it... These folks would praised their all-powerful deity over the internet.
The internet: made possible via SCIENCE.
Using science to spread magic. That's a brilliant punchline if I've ever saw one. LOL
Anyways, cheers, Thunderf00t.
Why is this such a difficult concept for some of us to grasp?
Ultra80s 11 months ago
Very cool idea! Can't wait to see what what you capture.
arulius74 11 months ago
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warrkrymez 11 months ago
It's sad that Jupiter's next to the sun now. I'm going to miss Orion too.
BirdValiant 11 months ago
@HungryTacoBoy
Umm...That's actually NOT how LCD displays work. It'd be FAR too long for me to explain how they *actually* work, so at least go read how they work on Wikipedia, you know, just so you know!
macgeek2004 11 months ago
Pretty cool man. Almost like a remake of Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" bringing 2011 technology into the picture as a way for more people to experience this.
I think with this perspective most of the time but the vast majority of the human race seems oblivious to what we really are, how small we really are. It's so ironic how a lot of people shy away from this because they don't want to feel small because when I think about it I just feel like I'm a part of something so much greater.
tylermccail7777777 11 months ago
He's a WITCH! BURN HIM!!!!
airbreather123 11 months ago
@nequillim : Fake huh , ask a Russian about that , dont you think that our competitors would tout that if in reality it was faked ? damn right they would , but they don't , they admit defeat in the space race...sorry , oh and your thoughts on science and the Qur'an, say what you like, I grant you , your thoughts on Allah are nothing more than giggle fodder for the rest of the world
theeAlphaOne 11 months ago
I don't think Thunderfoot would mine if I tell everyone about the new book out by Bart Ehrman- FORGED. It is his best book to date, but anyone who's read Ehrmans books wont be surprised by that statement. This one will piss off allot of Christians. Highly Highly recommended.
metalsusa1 11 months ago
@ Tf00t: I'm not sure how you do it, but there are people from NASA who are talking about their space programs and exploration programs, and they lack the connectedness to their topics while talking about them that you manage to get across. It makes it that much more interesting to watch it! Thanx!
PlanetJeroen 11 months ago
How is it we witness an "Earth Rise" from the moon? Isn't it fixed in it's rotation?
Sedalb 11 months ago