The GLINT!!!11

[7466nuts]

Come on we all know this 1 , its a worksafe site and thats a flashing warning light, safety first people , even on the moon.

[matt876mma]

Anyone who believes the moon landing was fake, doesnt have a brain , enough said.

[tanarus77]

thats a flagitious release valve opening and releasing the astronaut's built up gas. You didnt think they ran around with it in their suit all day did you ?

[revolutionpm]

it is an antenna

[zacman250]

It looks like there is something moving behind him, look at :23 secs. What is that?

[bertlapollo]

@zacman250 It's some object the astronaut threw away moments before turning around. You can see a slightly longer version of this clip in my "Six clips" video.

[AnEyeOfTheOpenMind]

@bertlapollo lol so we're littering on the moon too? We are fucking idiots and will get nowhere till a huge change of way happens at least.

[apopheniacMCMLXXXIX]

@AnEyeOfTheOpenMind

I'm sorry, but I fail to see the problem with littering on a lifeless world. Isn't littering only bad when there's a biosphere to pollute? The moon is dead! It's ours to pollute the fuck out of if we damn well please.

[rord]

@apopheniacMCMLXXXIX Why is it ours, its been around longer?

[apopheniacMCMLXXXIX]

@rord

So is everything else that we claim ownership of. We would be the first to make use of it, though.

I just hope we can organize to use it peacefully. That's the real trick...

[rord]

@apopheniacMCMLXXXIX I like your patriotism and i agree with you for a peaceful outlook, but how would you make use of it ,bearing in mind, the moon has a factor on human exsistence? Ps, since is does play a role on human exsistence, perhaps it owns us!?

[apopheniacMCMLXXXIX]

@rord

The moon could be useful in a lot of ways. First there's the obvious: mineral resources. But also bear in mind that humanity can't continue to progress if we stubbornly stick to the idea that we need to stay on this one planet forever. I think it'd be wise to establish a self-sufficient research station/"colony" on the Moon as practice for a future Mars base, and also as a sort of "insurance policy" for our species. If something happens to our one planet right now, we're doomed.

[BluTrilobite]

Hi, Bert!

[jtp0321]

FAIL. You dork.

[LunarTuner]

The "glint" can easily be explained at the communications antenna on top of every Apollo astronaut's Personal Life Support System. It was flat, so at certain angles it was more visible than others. You can see an astronaut helping his colleague erect this antenna in this video:

watch?v=2HnfhdL-LMk

[ladybugsingstheblues]

Backpack radio antenna!

[musicbruv]

Well done for spotting a glint and making this video, I suppose it has a purpose but I be damned if I can see it.

[jmjmartin]

The UHF ariel that retracts!!!

Simple reason why it appears in some shots but not others.

[maksphoto78]

I think it's a discharge of static electricity, or a streamer.

[pockmarkedbuttocks]

Moon Landing - FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­

[bertlapollo]

!!!111oneone!1!!!11one!1!!

[nasafakedit]

100% Fake

[musicbruv]

Strange how the wire is only about 8 inches long, only appear ever now and then, are not vertical, only one wire where as there should be two and fixed to the back pack and not above the centre of gravity, you are thick!

[vampireslavelife]

Hi Bert,

Nice clip....

But everyone, check out Bert's other clip 'sped up'.

You can see the antenna as plain as day....

[vampireslavelife]

Ok for one minute lets assume it IS a wire...

Why don't we see it any other time then?????????

[WagiaTV]

It was his effing antenna! OMFG!

[colsh1690]

ha ha nice one mate luv the music in the background lol, 5 stars for effort!

[razeezar]

Interesting that the only part of the so called cable that is glinting is the 6 or so inches coming from the top of the backpack, almost as if there is nothing there glinting but a thin object protruding from the pack like, I dunno... An antenna??

[harrycrowe3]

Absolutely right. It is the antenna on the top of the PLSS. I can't believe they don't give up on this one.

[CuuijqyMuruqdte]

Exactly, if this was a suspension cable like they believe, wouldn't if of flashed even higher? Not just that little bit close to the astronaut? XD

[obesityleadstoaids]

theres one where it flashes above him to

[CuuijqyMuruqdte]

Yeah I've seen that one already as well.  Weird but you know which one even looks more like WTF? The one where he falls and gets up as if being pulled by suspension cables, his feet are not even making good contact with the floor. lol.. It look so obvious.

[philkarn]

Well, this is a very nice closeup of the astronaut's VHF radio antenna. It's a flat metal blade, much like that in a carpenter's tape measure. It's easily seen in closeups of the PLSS and OPS, the two components of their life support backpacks. Because it's a flat metal blade, it can catch the sun and glint at just the right angle.

[colmmernagh]

I heard someone say before that if the US didnt go to the moon the russians would have told the world, makes sense eh !!

[CuuijqyMuruqdte]

.. if the Americans didn't go to the moon and the Russians not saying anything, that would make them complices, and the whole Cold War would've been a scam. o_O.. really hard to believe.

[colmmernagh]

What i mean is if the US really didnt land on the moon, you would know, because the russians were just as advanced as the US and had/have sattelites all over space, so in other words the moon landing was very real !!

[CuuijqyMuruqdte]

Totally agree with you. In order for this to be kept secret, the US would've had to ask every other nation in on the secret as well. It would be a world wide conspiracy. Would the same countries trying to beat the US keep a secret, naaaaa never. =)

[tehbertl]

No offense, but the moon DOES have gravity. On top of that, why would you need gravity to eat, or to eliminate waste?

[malpaul]

@tehbertl

Yes...it's called peristalsis isn't it? The reflex muscle movements of the digestive tract.

[bar77FUL]

peristalsis

[Stijnvanmele]

It's so obvious that it has something to do with his equipment because the glint appears while he is turning and as you can see, it shines parallel with the astronaut's movement.

[Rob260259]

Moonhoax advocates have brought up many points regarding the Apollo missions to the moon. NONE of them are indisputable evidence of fraud and most are misunderstandings of basic physics or mission specifications. Several solid & scientific evidences point to actual moonlandings.

The 880 pounds of moonrocks brought back to earth are the most obvious evidence, acknowledged by international scientists.

[Rob260259]

US Astronauts walked on the moon. Get over it. The moonlandings were no fake.

[youareGATORbait]

the music sucked

[fundiebasher]

Hoax believers are certifiably insane.

[curea229]

That's his antenna, Einstein.

[sniper152]

oh come on, Myth Busters already proved that the Moon mission was NOT a hoax. lol

[Ravenflight104]

To the producer:

The " glint " is the PLSS comm. blade antenna.

And this provides us with ......what......

proof that astronauts talk to each other by radio?

[h311raz0r]

The New World Order is laughing at you.

And God is laughing at them.

[turkeyno18]

what is the significance of that?

[MHayes85]

Good observation. But I believe that would be the antenna.

[GBS1043]

That's the antenna, idiot!

[butlincat]

well bertie-wot is it then?

[tehbertl]

Well, the one that gives an obvious glint is the antenna on the PLSS.

The "glint" that was being discussed between me and the other person, though, was a different glint. I made another video about that, more or less proving that it's a compression artefact.

[OldSmellyCrotch]

0:28 - It appears that the antenna on the Life Support pack has moved about 12 inches to the center? That's odd because it should be on the left hand-side from the astronauts perspective.

[ogwen040]

Its his radio arial.

Ive got one on my car just like it.

Muppet.

[deano815]

Thats the true cause to global warming.. astronaut letting of greenish space farts

[Sputuser]

Holy shit they are letting off gas , run for your lives :O

lol

[ymi2b]

shuddup! It's a conspiracyyyyy maaaaaan!!

[Greenandscaly]

So what are you trying to say that the glint is?

[SirMildredPierce]

A few people have claimed it's the wire that allows them to move around in simulated low gravity. But of course it's just the antennae. Why else would it always be parallel with the back pack instead of perpendicular to the ground?

[loperspest]

That, is, an, antenna. Always was, always will be.If it was anything else, like the wire some claim, it should show up higher in the shot as well. It doesn't. It is, an antenna. NEXT!

[LindaStevensBZ]

Hey Loper:

Funny how the wire never bends. How do the Hoaxers explain that one?

HEY HOAXERS!!! Have you got any clips where the "wire" is bending???? You don't...huh? Too bad...huh? Pretty amazing little wire...huh? Probably is just the little radio aerial...huh? Makes more sense...doesn't it? THIIIIINK!!!!

[zipper2k8]

you idiot

[NoCleverNames]

We should shove this antenna up greenmagoos´ass...

[stupidburger]

Wow, you're an idiot!!!11

[LindaStevensBZ]

51 seconds of my life down the toilet. Almost a full minute lost...for this crap. Holy #&*$#%@#%. Get a life Hoaxers. If you're going to be a Glint Boy...at least get a friggin British accent. ROFL!!!! Where do you guys come up with this crap. It's a lens flare off the little radio aerial. Y'all cannot be that stupid...can you? LOL!!!!!!! Too FUNNY!

[Abercr0mbie4life]

I feel your pain...

[72jamminjimmy]

I don't think those pings are from wires, don't all the astronauts have antenna for communications?? We need to find pings higher up to prove the wire theory.

[CusterApollo]

All astronauts had antenna on the top back of their packs. It is just light hitting the antenna and not evidence of any wire.

[bertlapollo]

The frame I've analyzed (see a few posts below) is frame 261. The two frames you analyzed are further than that, because the astronaut has turned slightly more.

[bertlapollo]

I see it now. I was looking in the "blablabla" folder, and didn't notice there are more folders in your account. Which frame is this? Not the frame we've been discussing earlier on.

[bertlapollo]

Well, I'm awaiting your frames. Until then, one of those five frames has been thoroughly debunked.

[bertlapollo]

Oh yeah, frame 12 out of this 35 frame sequence is frame 261 in the original clip of 318 frames.

[bertlapollo]

Alright. It's there. Finally. I've finished it.

AngeAzrael, I just proved you wrong. If you disagree, tell me WHY.

maj . com / cgi-bin / gallery.cgi ? i=1206253

(remove all the spaces)

[georgH]

You can put links with less spaces:

maj. com/cgi-bin/gallery. cgi?i=1206253

[georgH]

BTW: good job.

[bertlapollo]

We're not quite finished with the first frame we have been discussing, so I suggest not to bring up other frames.

You still haven't explained why you can't find the wire on the high quality frame 12 of the 35 frames sequence, the exact frame on which you drew a wire on in the low quality version. You also haven't explained what causes the discolorisation on the astronaut's suit, and that the discolorisation on the astronaut's space suit matches up exactly with the wire, vertically.

[bertlapollo]

Also, instead of drawing more wires on low-quality extremely zoomed in blurred out YouTube screenshots, so far you've been incapable of drawing the wire on the high quality version, even though the high quality version contains more information than the YouTube version.

[bertlapollo]

So how is VideoMach working for you?

[bertlapollo]

And could you also tell me why the wire isn't showing up in the high quality picture I posted, despite the fact that the frames are the exact same frames?

Even though I posted the link in the comments, I forgot to edit it in into the Director's Comments. It's there now. Fifth link.

[HeadLikeARock]

Bert

Where was the hi-res version of this clip posted? I saw the one for a different clip but can't see this one.

Cheers

[bertlapollo]

It was posted in the Apollohoax forums, the "Rover Footage Filmed on Earth" thread (not sure about the name), page 34. I've also uploaded the file to my website, it'll be the sixth link in the director's comments.

[bertlapollo]

I should stop clicking "Reply" before I'm done.

Saying "I can see it but I can't show you" is a bad excuse for not providing proof.

[bertlapollo]

Also, at which frame of the high quality clip do you see the wire?

[bertlapollo]

I'v explained how you can extract the video to seperate frames. Through VideoMach. You can download a trial version at their site. Google it.

I don't see any antenna, nor any wires in either the high quality or low quality version. I suggest you stay on the wires, and off the antenna.

[bertlapollo]

What is the point of the antenna you're trying to make? The antenna is either washed out by the compression, or not captured on tape / film / whatever they used in the first place.

Now please explain how you can see a wire in a blurry low quality verson, but can't in a high quality version. How?

[bertlapollo]

I just explained to you what the probable reason is why I can't see the antenna. The same thing that you continue to mistake for a wire. The frame is the same, or is it not?

You could try finding the frame for yourself. I could upload the whole 35 frame sequence as a number of PNGs, if you'd like, however that'd take a while as they're 12MB altogether. Despite the fact that I like losless compression, the biggest downside to it is that the filesizes are relatively big.

[HeadLikeARock]

If the line isn't there in the high res version it's further evidence that this is a compression artefact. Resorting to silly name calling is further evidence that you're losing the argument.

BTW Ange, did you see all the other compression artefacts in your still? Check this link out: if you have a Greenmagoos-slyte aversion to Tinyurls, it's in my photobucket page, called wireglints.jpg.

tinyurl . com / 2o2vzd

[bertlapollo]

I don't see the antenna, either. And we're not discussing an antenna, we're discussing the wire.

And with this very post you show your lack of understanding on compression. The antenna is hard (if not impossible) to see just because of the compression. Because the clip is compressed, a lot of information that could have been there is lost. The information on the (estimated) 1 pixel wide antenna that might have been visible on uncompressed frames is lost because of the very compression.

[bertlapollo]

How can't you see a wire in the high quality version, when you say the wire is clearly there in the low quality version? The low quality version on which you drew your wire on is a lot more blurry and has a lot less information than the high quality version on which you can't draw your wire on. That's proof that the wire you see has gotten there due to a loss of information and blurryness.

[bertlapollo]

Nope, I picked the right frame:

maj . com / gallery / BertL / moonhoax / comparison.png

As you can see, the frame is the exact same frame. How come you can't see the wire in the high quality version, but can in the low quality version?

[HeadLikeARock]

Has Magoos not heard of PM???

I already answered him in another thread (I forget which one). I can't answer him in his thread as he banned me for not getting back to him quick enough, or forgetting to say astro-NOT!, or some other juvenile school-boy nonsense.

IIRC the flag direction doesn't appear to have changed.

[bertlapollo]

If the wire was there on the low quality YouTube screenshot, it certainly would show up on a less compressed high quality version. Why? More compression = more loss of information = less pixels to hang on to. So if the wire can be seen on the low quality version, it certainly should be seen on a less compressed version. Showing that you can't see the wire on the high quality version shows even more that it's a compression artifact, and not a wire.

To convert video into frames, use VideoMach.

[bertlapollo]

The exact answer I expected. Instead of just drawing the wire on the high-quality frame, you try to talk it away. Why? Because you can't draw the wire.

I've shown that what you showed as a wire on the LOW quality version is a compression artifact. This is supported by the high quality version, showing all the seperate "squares". You can't even draw the wire on the high quality version. Why not? Because it's not there.

You can't draw the wire on the high-quality frame. You lose.

[bertlapollo]

Huh? The wire IS in the extra compressed YouTube version, but not in the original? Are you saying that the wire only shows up when the loss of information is even bigger?

Well, at least you posted the time. That narrows the possibilities down to five frames.

[bertlapollo]

Why am I not surprised you're not able to draw a wire on this frame...

This is the exact frame you've drawn a wire on in the YouTube version. If the wire is visible for you on the frame in the YouTube version, then it surely should be visisble on the exact same frame in the less compressed version. That is, if it were to be a wire.

Again, you can't find the wire in the original, less compressed version but you can in the more compressed YouTube version?

[bertlapollo]

I'm not discussing those things, I'm discussing the "wires" in this clip.

[bertlapollo]

Alright, I'll see the screenshot tomorrow I suppose. I'm going to get rid of this huge headache before I go to sleep. See you around.

[bertlapollo]

Yes, on the 300% zoom picture on the right, or even on the original frame if you'd like.

[bertlapollo]

Take a look at the post I just posted two minutes before this one. :)

[bertlapollo]

Alrighty, AngeAzrael. Take a look at the fourth link in the Director's Comments, or just decode this link:

maj . com / gallery / BertL / moonhoax / orig12-2 . png

The frame in the left top is the original frame, and the third link in the Director's Comments thingie. The frame on the right is a 300% zoom. Already you can see all the "squares". The frame on the bottom shows the squares. Could you draw your wire again in the 300% zoom on the right? Or can't you? Why not?

[HeadLikeARock]

Thanks for that upload Bert. As clear evidence as you can get that it's caused by compression artefaction.

Ange, you're welcome to think it's a wire if you want to, but the evidence supports compression artecfation.

[bertlapollo]

Oh yeah... you're welcome. :)

[bertlapollo]

Have you taken a look at the third link and zoomed in? What did you see?

[HeadLikeARock]

Hey if you've convinced yourself it's a wire that's fine, we're all entitled to an opinion.

The evidence points to it being a compression artefact, and IMO that's what it is. Vive la difference and all that.

tinyurl . com / 2wq5ts

[bertlapollo]

jokeris' video doesn't deal with the "wire" in this clip at all. It has nothing to do with it.

Look at the third link that's in the Director's comments. It's a raw frame, exported as a .PNG image fresh from the downloaded video (no extra losless compression!) Zoom in on it, and you will see squares with discolorisations ALL over the place. The same discolorisation that is mostly washed out by YouTube's compression, except for some points.

[HeadLikeARock]

"I never admitted it is an artefact, where the hell did you get that idea???"

Err, I said you admitted it LOOKED like an artefact. Here it is again.

"the wire can be seen as compression artefact, but we know it's a wire..."

So, you admit it looks like a compression artefact - how do you KNOW it's a wire?

[bertlapollo]

Also, take a look at the frame I posted in the Director's Comments section and look at the sky. It is full of these compression artifacts, giving the result of little squares/triangles. They come up as grain in the YouTube video because of the resizing and larger amount of compression done by YouTube.

[HeadLikeARock]

Wow. Wires all over the place. Or are they compression artefacts?

tinyurl . com / 2o2vzd

"The new video is proof enough that the wire is at the back of the backpack and that the wire can be seen as compression artefact, but we know it's a wire..."

You know it's a wire how? You even ADMIT it looks like a compression artefact! And you accuse others of being sheep?

[bertlapollo]

I downloaded the six clips off a forum where someone else posted them. They were already XviD compressed, what caused the compression artifacts, like the spacesuit's discolorisation, in the first place.

How do you explain the discolorisation on the space suit that is completely in line with the discolorisation that you call "a wire", indicating a compression artifact?

[bertlapollo]

You compared this video to two completely different videos. That isn't proof of anything.

How do you explain the discolorisation on the space suit that is right in line with the discolorisation that you see as a wire?

[bertlapollo]

Well, the second part is a completely different screenshot from a completely different film. Did you place it there for comparison or something? It changes nothing about the image I posted.

I've shown that the same discolorisation that you take as a "wire" is also seen in the space suit RIGHT below the "wire", showing that the discolorisation isn't a wire, but a compression artifact. How do you explain the discolorisation of the space suit? Is that a compression artifact?

[bertlapollo]

Oh yeah, just to let you know. I'm pretty sure that the frame we're discussing here is frame 12 of the 35 frame sequence. I've posted a link in the comments section.

[bertlapollo]

Compression is EXACTLY what created the discolorisation. The "edge" of the discolorisation (though blurry, because of YouTube's way of handling zoomed things) is right at the same line of your "wire". When discolorisations like these show up, they follow perfectly horizontal and vertical lines, because of the way compression works (it's quite technical and I myself am don't know EXACTLY how it works on such a technical level).

Awaiting your screenshot :)

[bertlapollo]

No, it is not coincidence, and it is not a wire either. It is obviously the result of compression, just like the discolorisation of the space suit in two places. I've shown that in the picture. Your "it's a wire" theory falls apart be cause what you see is completely consistent with all the other compression artifacts.

I've added another link to the comments showing the same effect in a raw frame I just took.

[bertlapollo]

Alright, I've made a file which handles your "wire". I've linked to it in the Director's comments.

Might I add, I've encountered what is actually seen a lot of times because of my hobby, Brickfilming. My webcam tends to give the same effect due to compression for making the streaming video faster or something. I'm not sure why it happens to be honest, but I do know it happens a lot.

[bertlapollo]

Alright, thanks. I'll get to my refutation soon. I'm not sure which frame of the sequence you used (for this clip I used a sequence of 35 frames with the glare visible from frame 20 to 23), if it's frame 13, 14 or 15, so I'll use your screenshot for it.

[bertlapollo]

Probably because the file name contains characters that are not right, or the file itself has the wrong format. What's the full file name? (Including the extension).

[bertlapollo]

I received it instantly.

[bertlapollo]

Well, I could've offered you to send me an e-mail with the file attached, but I know from experience a lot of conspiracy theorists like to keep their identities as hidden as possible.

[bertlapollo]

Oh no, it's so much work!

It takes about one minute of your time to set up an account, make a new folder and upload your picture there. Also handy for in the future, when you may or may not need to have more screenshots.

Unless you already have an account of some sorts at an image hosting website.

[bertlapollo]

Stop the insults.

[bertlapollo]

I explained that to you already:

"[...] save as .png, upload it to maj dot com, PM the link and you're done"

[bertlapollo]

That's true, it doesn't work when a video is playing. It does work on YouTube videos though.

[HeadLikeARock]

I think what you're seeing is the product of compression artefaction, wishful thinking and an overactive imagination.

Have you even considered the limitations of the medium when analysing this footage?

[bertlapollo]

I still can't see anything. All I see is a pixelated grey blur thingie.

Oh yeah, about the image, you can make a printscreen with a button on your keyboard (PRNTSCRN or something), then Paste in Paint, save as .png, upload it to maj dot com, PM the link and you're done. Easy.

[bertlapollo]

Could you maybe PM me a screenshot with the wire encircled or something? I honestly can't see what you are talking about.

[bertlapollo]

Are you talking about the white flash above the backpack at 00:27?