I'm an American with some Irish roots. Gotta say it pains me to think any paddies would be stupid enough to fight and die for wealthy men of mostly British ancestry to enslave other human beings for agricultural profit. Then again look at the wars we are in today.
@madmiguelh2o I agree. But many Irish had no choice but to fight in the Union Army and many Irish in the south which werent so many were fighting for their own freedom and way of life, and the south/confederates were mostly Scoth-Irish protestants mixed with English protestants( who came from the west of England i.e Cornwall Devon etc and thus were mostly Celts of England) so thats why southern mostly got united. North were English Anglo-Saxons/Normans, Germans protestants & Nordics.
I have noticed many people on here defending the truth of the South are 40+ . I hope you are teaching the rising generation what really happened etc. and not letting the public schools and lib history books reinforce the sterotypical lies.
@zephyrboy96 Confederate. They lyrics of the song make it obvious. "And the Yankee route before it", "till the Lincoln snakes in their own cold lakes", and "Our drums shall roll in the capitol"
Wonderful song,wonderful voice.I love the Irish culture.A proud nation,a nation of fighters who love their country.Very simmilar to us Macedonians.Heres to you Irish Brothers!! Greetings from Macedonia!!
@HeroOfMacedonia Am sure you don't mean the Macedonians of Ancient Greece? and I would think today's Macedonians different to the Irish as Irish have been through much more and for a long duration too.
But this is not traditional at all and no Irishman would ever sing a song with this lilt ever - Kudos to the historic memory in the context of the video but for the tone of the music being played here - mere Hollywood fantasy - An Irishman would either not sing this song or else play with true passion and justice with a voice that would do the same - sorry for the comment but when actors of a different nation 'play us' it's important to set the record straight
Has anyone noticed how these are confederate and federal soldiers conversing? but it is their irish heritage that binds them and they know and respect it. I love it!
@alonmerlin This was early in the war when many units were using uniforms from when they were enlisted in the U,S Army or militia units who were given standard issue clothing. By the next year or so they would be wearing gray as a rule of thumb.
@zachewoldt I'm not for either side in particular. As mentioned, I have ancestors that fought on both sides. I may have a little more Southern pride (I live in Texas, my dad is from there and my mom from Virginia)...but I can empathize with both sides.
@MattCFC300, O'neill refers to Niall, in ancient Ireland. His ancestor HyNiall claimed the present province of Ulster under the dominion of the O'neills. The red hand is from HyNial's bloody left hand that he chopped off and flung ashore, thus first "touching" the land and securing it for himself and his descendants. Since England's first invasion of Ireland, they've gone through the closest part of Ireland to England, Ulster, the province of O'neill. Guess the rain is their vengeance.
Oh, I didn't see this scene. And, the Irish Song in the end of this film, what is this name? The song was playing when an Irish Brigade prepared to fight. Can you help me?
You will start to hear the American People chant these words once again in protest to our collapsing Government. The French are rioting in the streets as we speak. Why can't we American's stand up and take back our Country once in for all
@cyn33667 French are protesting because the governemnt cut social services and want to put the age of job retreat at 62 years old. Some American seem to protest because they don't want social services. Also speaking of French, Napoléon once said that if a nation is in debt to the bankers, it is the bankers who control because the hand the give is always higher that the hand that receive. Money have no country, financiers have no patriotism their only objective is profit.
@MattCFC300 It's referring to the red hand which was the symbol of the O'Neill clan (who were High Kings of Ireland at one time), and which also figures on the flag of Ulster.
@MattCFC300 Well its probably a reference to the Red Hand of Ulster, the symbol of the old Irish kingdom of Ulster and of the ancient Irish clan Uí Néill, which became the O'Neil family.
@sarame287 if you've deleted battle sequences, i know i would really like to see 'em. Any sort of sneak preview of scenes to be released on may 24th would be great. If you could upload them, please do.
@jeremylneufeld I don't know if I have the CD anymore. You can see the other videos by buying the deluxe soundtrack for the film, it came with an extra CD with deleted scenes.
@jeremylneufeld Sorry it took me so long! I don't even know if all the scenes on the CD made it onto the director's cut, I'll have to buy it anyways. Love this movie. :)
@sarame287 Hollywood has.nt got a clue of Irish History, Irish accents, or a grip on anything really, the majority of people that left "Ireland" to seek a new life, were Ulster Scots/Protestant/Presbyterian, the founders of the United Irish Men (though many micks/Taigs/Catholics would have you believe otherwise. the unholy church of rome would never let people like us read the bible, cos we would find too many discrepencies, So Martin Luther (The Weiss German) gave us strength & credibility UVF
The Ulster Scots you talk about went to America in the 1600s & 1700s. They are mostly in Southern U.S.A. The Catholic Irish who are mostly of Celtic roots and native of Ireland migrated later to the U.S.A., around 1800s and onwards. They are mostly in the Northern side of U.S.A. The Ulster Scots are mixture of Nordic, English & Germanics, whereas Catholic Irish are mostly native of Ireland i.e Celtics. The true Irish. The rednecks are mostly Ulster Scots, similar culture to Northern Ireland.
@Rabmunn Nah your wrong..Catholics are true Irish-Celts. The scots are mostly saxons and normans and stole Northern Ireland land, but Northern Irish/Celtics/Catholics are getting it back now and rightly so.
@hud42cdo these are Irish I believe. Also is that Lee at the background with a Hat? wasn't he Scotch-Irish? are these Irish meant to be Catholics right?
@easynowww I think the actor's name is Ben Schaeffer. I don't know anything else about him. Judging from a lot of comments, his Irish accent isn't so good, so I might guess he's not Irish.
@sarame287 i had family on both sides too sarame so i know where you're getting at atkinsons fought for the 33rd virginia emerauld guards and the 69th new york so yeah
as a irish born irishman ,i fought for the usa ,my son is a 2004 west point grad,yes it's true the irish had no status back in those day's ,the masonic lodge's took care of that,the sign no irish need apply came from masonic lodge's,this is a known fact.curse all mason's
@imatim1888 - Are you sure of this???. I had family on both sides of the civl war. My 4th great grandfather and his half brother were members of the Philadelphia brigade in 1860-61, under General Patterson's command. His half brother was Col. Joshua T. Owens of the 24th PVI regiment while my 4th gr-granpa(William Y. Owens) was in Co.K of this regiment(later reorganized into the 69th PA (Irish unit). They were members of a masonic group in philadelphia .
@imatim1888 i know i am resopnding to a year old post, I have irish blood in me but I belive every private organisation has the right to desides who they want in it. this includes businesses.
Irish immigrants had a less status than negroes or others in bondage. They fought on both sides...USA and CSA...to earn place and recognition. Song reflects clash of Irish on both side mentioning nations wrongdoings andf starving labor work. Notice that Union officers looked upon the Irish in film with disdain...President Lincoln treated emanicipated slaves enrolled in Union Army better than the Irish
@peterann1 You are correct that the Irish (and the Jews), were greatly looked down upon in the North, especially by the Republicans. It was perhaps because of the treatment they received there that so many of the Irish and Jews gave at best only lukewarm support to the Union war effort. Many Irish did join the Union Army for the pay and the bounty. In the South, every Jewish man of military age joined the Confederate army. It was much the same with the Irish support for the Confederacy.
One who validates tyranny with so much history has a conscience of condemnation to justify the acts of such leaders who have condemened so many to less a life that is guaranted to all men.
The english are just as guilty of making men slaves to the rich industrialist as our congress are doing so now in our country. The Irsh and Scotts have tradition of fighting such ambitions.
I had ancestors on both sides of the war. My GGG Grandfather was a Yankee Irishman with the 63rd PA Regiment & my other GGG Grandfather was a Reb physician (sawbones) with the 11th Texas Calvary & later the 62nd TN. My Yankee ancestor was wounded severely at the first battle of the Seven Days Battle outside of Richmond, where it is believed my Reb ancestor was tending to wounded from both sides. I am proud of both of these good men & will remember & honor the nearly 700,000 lives that were lost.
actually all Irish regiments were good regiments because they had war in thier blood....and the 28th Mass could easily rival if not beat the 69th NYVI in being the best Irish regiment in the war (Even though all irish regiments were hard fighting units)
I'd have to dispute with you your assertion that Mexico fought against aggression from its northern neighbor... Mexico did attack the United States after all, and arguably in America.
It is fitting that the aggression against Mexico on behalf of slave power should be brought in re: the Civil War. This Mexican war was ginned up to win new territory to benefit slavery expansion.
The United States was half slave states, half free states, more than simply a "slave power". While the US did accept the independent republic of Texas into the US, and accepted Texan claims to the border, this is a legitimate dispute. Mexico attacked us over this, and in the ensuing war, we gained their northern territories which were almost unpopulated by Mexicans (but had native populations waging war against Mexico). We did want the land though, and paid Mexico for it at wars conclusion.
I am referring to the partisan interrests tha pushed the war on the U.S. as the slave power. This is how the Whigs & GOP referred to the apologists & beneficiaries of slavery @ the time. Polk's scheming inflation of a border skirmish the disputed strip between the Nueces & Rio Grande Rivers was a great lie. The Slave Power & the Democrat Party (the same thing reall) wanted a strip of land to permit the continued expansion of slavery.
I own this video, but I don't have this deleted scene, is it a special addition? This is one of my favorite movies, and if there is an upgraded dvd, I would like to get it. Thanks for the video
pope pius ix supported the south because of america's prejudice towards catholics. he even sent a crown of thorns to jeff davis when he was imprisioned after the war, to symbolically show he was being cruxified.
the more I learn about the American Civil war the more I realise that the propaganda expounded to the rest of the world from the winning side is fundamentally distorted and probably wrong. Its ironic that it has taken the development of I.T to allow this.
as the expression goes "the winner writes history" I have learned much about the Confederacy that is not provided outside the u.s. I am now very supportive of the CSA and can imagine that an independant south with its unique culture and attitude would have made north america a very different place it is now. I will drink a pint to the south tonight
i had ancestors fight for the union, get captured and sent to the now infamous andersonville prison camp where they died, God rest their souls, but i still support the south. the south had many anomalies like the south had a indian high in in the ranks, its was general Stand Watie who reeked havoc out in the west, i.e. texas and arkansas. along with that the story of general joe shelby who would not surrender so he went down to south america and breed with the locals.
The south was predominately Protestant. Many Ulster Scots and Irish from the "Northern Fringe" emigrated to the American South in the 15th century because the warmer climate made sustenance farmer more possible. Any immigrants of catholic persuasion simply would have been absorbed into the culture and typically would have become Protestant themselves.
I'm the product of the Scot's Irish Presbyterian Migration. Both sides of the Family. Both Came thru North Carolina - Tennessee by the out break of the Civil War my gg grandfather's fought for the confederacy for Tennessee. Good information sir.
I am confused -the yankee soldiers would have been catholic gaelic from the south of ireland but I thought the confederate army and culture would have disliked catholicism and i assume the irish in the csa would have been ulster prods. Why would ulster protestants want to leave the british empire?
The confederates promised to free the irish from great britian so the irish made the right choice i dont think so though but thats only because im british
im part irish and i mostly listen to irish music
74remove 3 months ago
They should never have deleted this. As an Irish American, I love this song.
DarthKieduss43 3 months ago
why did get it deleted
konnii1 3 months ago
@konnii1 Because the movie is around 4 hours long even with half the scenes cut out of it.
KrazyKommieKiller 2 months ago
That was great!
avemaria716 4 months ago
I'm an American with some Irish roots. Gotta say it pains me to think any paddies would be stupid enough to fight and die for wealthy men of mostly British ancestry to enslave other human beings for agricultural profit. Then again look at the wars we are in today.
madmiguelh2o 4 months ago
@madmiguelh2o I agree. But many Irish had no choice but to fight in the Union Army and many Irish in the south which werent so many were fighting for their own freedom and way of life, and the south/confederates were mostly Scoth-Irish protestants mixed with English protestants( who came from the west of England i.e Cornwall Devon etc and thus were mostly Celts of England) so thats why southern mostly got united. North were English Anglo-Saxons/Normans, Germans protestants & Nordics.
easynowww 2 months ago
I have noticed many people on here defending the truth of the South are 40+ . I hope you are teaching the rising generation what really happened etc. and not letting the public schools and lib history books reinforce the sterotypical lies.
mollymu1 4 months ago
were they confederate or union?
zephyrboy96 4 months ago
@zephyrboy96 Confederate. They lyrics of the song make it obvious. "And the Yankee route before it", "till the Lincoln snakes in their own cold lakes", and "Our drums shall roll in the capitol"
KrazyKommieKiller 2 months ago
the funny thing is this is a southern song, sung by a yank!
PresidentDRCI 5 months ago
I'm amazed this didn't make it into the Director's Cut.
JoeHooker11 6 months ago
do you know who the singer is? he has an outstanding voice!
19saphire 6 months ago
Terrible attempt at our accents but good acting and singing.
JordoF6 7 months ago
@JordoF6 The accents are very well done considering it was 1800s American and 1800s Irish accent. Spot on I say.
2011Lightening 5 months ago
1:20 thata one hell of a beard...
Jakeofalltrades1 7 months ago
they deleted the entire battle of antietam from this movie
johncashrocks221 8 months ago
@johncashrocks221 why did they deleted the entire battle of Antietam? omg that was more of importance then Gettysburg in my option!
Civilwar555 6 months ago
Wonderful song,wonderful voice.I love the Irish culture.A proud nation,a nation of fighters who love their country.Very simmilar to us Macedonians.Heres to you Irish Brothers!! Greetings from Macedonia!!
HeroOfMacedonia 8 months ago 6
@HeroOfMacedonia Am sure you don't mean the Macedonians of Ancient Greece? and I would think today's Macedonians different to the Irish as Irish have been through much more and for a long duration too.
Kellystarrr 7 months ago
Is this scene in the new directors cut of g&g out now?
Hinkel84 8 months ago
i like this song but i like patty;s lamenation better
TheMuffinator100 8 months ago
But this is not traditional at all and no Irishman would ever sing a song with this lilt ever - Kudos to the historic memory in the context of the video but for the tone of the music being played here - mere Hollywood fantasy - An Irishman would either not sing this song or else play with true passion and justice with a voice that would do the same - sorry for the comment but when actors of a different nation 'play us' it's important to set the record straight
SPAREPARTSCENTRE 8 months ago
Has anyone noticed how these are confederate and federal soldiers conversing? but it is their irish heritage that binds them and they know and respect it. I love it!
sdroflah 9 months ago
Your fanatic horde to the edge of the sword is doomed line square and column
Best line ever. Proud my ancestors were Irish confederates!
clemsonowns 9 months ago
Not sure why there are 20 dislikes. Scenes like this should not have been cut from this movie.
kiwicanuck1973 10 months ago
Best and most motivating song i ever heard
DetestedMeteor 10 months ago
Irish BRIGADE!!!!!! FORWARD MARCH!!!!!!!
ErasmusPrime239 10 months ago
There is always one good man in a unit that lifts the spirits for a few minutes.....makes you remember what you fight for and lose yourself in song
Canha0331 10 months ago
Just a pity they had to fight each other.From Ireland.
billyhunchback 11 months ago
@billyhunchback Thats what makes wars of that kind such a horror.
Libertyin2010 10 months ago
AWESOME SONG and MOVIE. GOD's and GENERALS!
floridaironclad 11 months ago
This is a beautiful song for sure
RedneckSoldier111290 11 months ago
Fitzgerald can really sing!!! This video was cut?! Thats a pity...
I soo love this song, and its sooo much better sung in this video!
Laurusfilia 1 year ago
@Laurusfilia
There will be a 70 minutes longer directors cut with this in may ;)
Hinkel84 11 months ago
I loooove this song! <3<3<3
Laurusfilia 1 year ago
So much said from just a 2 chord song, just beautiful
guitarfreak651 1 year ago
hay in whos camp is this some of the soldiers have blue coats isn't that the union color?
alonmerlin 1 year ago
@alonmerlin This was early in the war when many units were using uniforms from when they were enlisted in the U,S Army or militia units who were given standard issue clothing. By the next year or so they would be wearing gray as a rule of thumb.
Malcolmreynolds99 10 months ago
sarame287: Would you be for the Confederates then (not slavery but for the states) or the Yankees? Jw cause you have such a complex background.
zachewoldt 1 year ago
@zachewoldt I'm not for either side in particular. As mentioned, I have ancestors that fought on both sides. I may have a little more Southern pride (I live in Texas, my dad is from there and my mom from Virginia)...but I can empathize with both sides.
sarame287 1 year ago 10
@sarame287 i'm more towards the north but i had family on both sides
TsumeBeta038 11 months ago
@TsumeBeta038 We all did brother we all did.
LordHannigan 10 months ago
Who is the man standing behind Jackson?
Sisyphus27 1 year ago
@Sisyphus27 For a moment I thought it was classic Randy Johnson! But that is Col. Arthur Cummings, who is featured during the First Manassass battle.
jrs689 9 months ago
Great song! Long live the Cajuns and Irish of the south!
philbox17 1 year ago
@MattCFC300, O'neill refers to Niall, in ancient Ireland. His ancestor HyNiall claimed the present province of Ulster under the dominion of the O'neills. The red hand is from HyNial's bloody left hand that he chopped off and flung ashore, thus first "touching" the land and securing it for himself and his descendants. Since England's first invasion of Ireland, they've gone through the closest part of Ireland to England, Ulster, the province of O'neill. Guess the rain is their vengeance.
crazycelt89 1 year ago
i heard this song in another vid the one in the side bar that says
Song of the Irish Brigade (Confederate)
CM99501 1 year ago
@CM99501 It has different names. This is what it was called on the DVD.
sarame287 1 year ago
Oh, I didn't see this scene. And, the Irish Song in the end of this film, what is this name? The song was playing when an Irish Brigade prepared to fight. Can you help me?
trunghq 1 year ago
God bless Southern States!
Adam130694 1 year ago
@Adam130694 God bless the USA!!!
PaulMichaelHoffman 11 months ago
You will start to hear the American People chant these words once again in protest to our collapsing Government. The French are rioting in the streets as we speak. Why can't we American's stand up and take back our Country once in for all
Oh, not now for songs of a nation's wrongs,
not the groans of starving labor;
Let the rifle ring and the bullet sing
to the clash of the flashing sabre!
cyn33667 1 year ago
@cyn33667 French are protesting because the governemnt cut social services and want to put the age of job retreat at 62 years old. Some American seem to protest because they don't want social services. Also speaking of French, Napoléon once said that if a nation is in debt to the bankers, it is the bankers who control because the hand the give is always higher that the hand that receive. Money have no country, financiers have no patriotism their only objective is profit.
philbox17 1 year ago
@MattCFC300 It's referring to the red hand which was the symbol of the O'Neill clan (who were High Kings of Ireland at one time), and which also figures on the flag of Ulster.
unterland 1 year ago
It's so funny when he says Mulligan has shamed us alllllll and fire around the fireeeeee heheheh lol.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago 21
@SonyaOOOlights He's saying 'It was the nourishment of song I'd hoped to find around the fire' :)
eddiehatred 6 months ago
@MattCFC300 Well its probably a reference to the Red Hand of Ulster, the symbol of the old Irish kingdom of Ulster and of the ancient Irish clan Uí Néill, which became the O'Neil family.
leldoryn 1 year ago
my g-g-g-granddad was in the company I of the 8th Alabama "Emerald Guard" Confederate Irishmen.
IMC026 1 year ago
@IMC026 my g-g-g-grandfathers fought in this war one in the 69th and the other was in the 33rd emerauld guards
Faugh-a-ballaugh all the way
TsumeBeta038 11 months ago
O'Neil's Red Hand us as symbol on an Irish flag. In the song it means Ireland.
MrMilton2lewis 1 year ago
What a great song.
Deo Vindice
IslandersMets10 1 year ago
This song is so moving and beautiful. It really is a great song
LegallyMoi 1 year ago
Great voice. I really love all kinds of 1860's music. :-)
Zeeboe 1 year ago
This beautiful song was also sung at sea by the Australian sailors who served with the Confederate States Navy.
gregorykatrina 1 year ago
just glad we fly under one flag now
xWhocaresxX 1 year ago
Excellent song and movie. I hope that I will some day watch The Last Full Measure
smrt1111111111111 1 year ago
Could you post some of the other deleted scenes please?
celticultural 1 year ago
@celticultural I've got another one, "Kathleen Mavourneen" up. The other scenes were mostly battle scenes, except for two, they were other songs.
sarame287 11 months ago
@sarame287 if you've deleted battle sequences, i know i would really like to see 'em. Any sort of sneak preview of scenes to be released on may 24th would be great. If you could upload them, please do.
jeremylneufeld 10 months ago
@jeremylneufeld I don't know if I have the CD anymore. You can see the other videos by buying the deluxe soundtrack for the film, it came with an extra CD with deleted scenes.
sarame287 7 months ago
@sarame287 thanks for responding but by now the directors cut has been released finally! i was just trying to get a sneak peak at the directors cut
jeremylneufeld 7 months ago
@jeremylneufeld Sorry it took me so long! I don't even know if all the scenes on the CD made it onto the director's cut, I'll have to buy it anyways. Love this movie. :)
sarame287 7 months ago
@sarame287 Hollywood has.nt got a clue of Irish History, Irish accents, or a grip on anything really, the majority of people that left "Ireland" to seek a new life, were Ulster Scots/Protestant/Presbyterian, the founders of the United Irish Men (though many micks/Taigs/Catholics would have you believe otherwise. the unholy church of rome would never let people like us read the bible, cos we would find too many discrepencies, So Martin Luther (The Weiss German) gave us strength & credibility UVF
Rabmunn 5 months ago
@Rabmunn
They have a bigger clue than you Northern friend.
DingChavez959 5 months ago
The Ulster Scots you talk about went to America in the 1600s & 1700s. They are mostly in Southern U.S.A. The Catholic Irish who are mostly of Celtic roots and native of Ireland migrated later to the U.S.A., around 1800s and onwards. They are mostly in the Northern side of U.S.A. The Ulster Scots are mixture of Nordic, English & Germanics, whereas Catholic Irish are mostly native of Ireland i.e Celtics. The true Irish. The rednecks are mostly Ulster Scots, similar culture to Northern Ireland.
2011Lightening 5 months ago
@Rabmunn Nah your wrong..Catholics are true Irish-Celts. The scots are mostly saxons and normans and stole Northern Ireland land, but Northern Irish/Celtics/Catholics are getting it back now and rightly so.
Solarlad 3 months ago
@Rabmunn
Your points are correct but you have gave them in a very negative way.
The irish famine was not a famine but a refusal by the absentee land lords and the catholic church to supply food for people.
The unitied Irishmen uprising was destroyed by the Catholic church being bribed by the British government with a seminary.
The famine was advanced by the Catholic church by its inability to allow to use its land for the growth of produce.
1 in 4 irish catholics was a priest, i rest my case.
13bobmd 3 months ago
why dont hollywood use irish to speak irish?these are americans-an irishman leads with his brogue-beballix te the lattsa ye
hud42cdo 1 year ago
@hud42cdo these are Irish I believe. Also is that Lee at the background with a Hat? wasn't he Scotch-Irish? are these Irish meant to be Catholics right?
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
@hud42cdo perhaps because the men who fought in the civil war had immigrated the America and by then were well assimilated into American culture.
Nick22pr 1 year ago
Eire Go Bragh!!!!! Greetins frae Sweden.......
fanvasvart 1 year ago 3
god save our beloved dixie
MUDDYBOY4465 1 year ago 5
God Bless the Irish
franck59560 1 year ago 5
Beautiful
Rubystars0000 1 year ago
Nice Vid. thanks for posting
statesrights01 1 year ago
1:18 its aragorn haha
ErichWagenmann 1 year ago
well said MrWileyk was that a quote you found or did you make that one?
Rsfan259 1 year ago
Jackson was of Irish decent.
I assume that's why he is shown in this scene.
kampuskop 1 year ago
Erin Go Bragh
chides87 1 year ago 3
boondock saints 2 xD
justanotherhopeless 1 year ago
yeah go brag about erin
ErichWagenmann 1 year ago
Deleted scenes never came with my DVD, so your posting is much appreciated.
mbabist01 1 year ago 6
These scenes are from an extra DVD that came with the soundtrack.
sarame287 1 year ago
is the Antietam battle on that extra DVD too?
ViccardXViccc 1 year ago
I don't think so. Most of the extra scenes tend to include a song. I've also posted "Kathleen Mavourneen".
sarame287 1 year ago
@sarame287 What's the guy's name who sings this? the actor who sings this. Is he American or Irish? has he starred in any other films?
thanks.
easynowww 1 year ago
@easynowww I think the actor's name is Ben Schaeffer. I don't know anything else about him. Judging from a lot of comments, his Irish accent isn't so good, so I might guess he's not Irish.
sarame287 11 months ago
@sarame287 are these folks scotch irish or Irish Catholics?
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
@SonyaOOOlights I don't know, my advice would be to watch the movie and see if you can find out.
sarame287 11 months ago
Love the song
SuperQuirkE 2 years ago 2
Sarame you might enjoy Colony by fellow Dubliner Damien Dempsey. There is a great vid to it on u tube. Failte from Ireland.
ALMEROONE 2 years ago
Okay, thanks!
sarame287 1 year ago
@sarame287 i had family on both sides too sarame so i know where you're getting at atkinsons fought for the 33rd virginia emerauld guards and the 69th new york so yeah
TsumeBeta038 11 months ago
as a irish born irishman ,i fought for the usa ,my son is a 2004 west point grad,yes it's true the irish had no status back in those day's ,the masonic lodge's took care of that,the sign no irish need apply came from masonic lodge's,this is a known fact.curse all mason's
imatim1888 2 years ago 17
@imatim1888 Please thank your son, from all of us. "Faugh ah ballach".
pvtvice 1 year ago
@imatim1888 - Are you sure of this???. I had family on both sides of the civl war. My 4th great grandfather and his half brother were members of the Philadelphia brigade in 1860-61, under General Patterson's command. His half brother was Col. Joshua T. Owens of the 24th PVI regiment while my 4th gr-granpa(William Y. Owens) was in Co.K of this regiment(later reorganized into the 69th PA (Irish unit). They were members of a masonic group in philadelphia .
WWIIREBEL 10 months ago
@imatim1888 i know i am resopnding to a year old post, I have irish blood in me but I belive every private organisation has the right to desides who they want in it. this includes businesses.
douggw 4 months ago
why?! WHY WHY WHY did they delete this amazing scene?! Hes got a great voice.
bullyboy1863 2 years ago 41
@bullyboy1863 They wanted the movie to focus on Stonewall Jackson.
TheRapper10000 1 year ago
@bullyboy1863 So.... This video made me want to see the movie, and it's just a deleted scene?? Wow... Still, though, I agree... Great voice.
christianpoet2003 9 months ago
I don't understand very well English or American.,is there somebody who could give me the sense of this.song,thanks a lot.
breizhaganbrav 2 years ago
Irish immigrants had a less status than negroes or others in bondage. They fought on both sides...USA and CSA...to earn place and recognition. Song reflects clash of Irish on both side mentioning nations wrongdoings andf starving labor work. Notice that Union officers looked upon the Irish in film with disdain...President Lincoln treated emanicipated slaves enrolled in Union Army better than the Irish
peterann1 2 years ago
@peterann1 You are correct that the Irish (and the Jews), were greatly looked down upon in the North, especially by the Republicans. It was perhaps because of the treatment they received there that so many of the Irish and Jews gave at best only lukewarm support to the Union war effort. Many Irish did join the Union Army for the pay and the bounty. In the South, every Jewish man of military age joined the Confederate army. It was much the same with the Irish support for the Confederacy.
secessionist 2 years ago 3
Thank you. Knowledge defeats ignorance
peterann1 2 years ago
@ breizhaganbrav: This is an Irish American fighting for the Confederates during the U.S. Civil War, and this song is about that situation.
captainamerica50 1 year ago
to the last man indeed, because that is exactly how it will turn out. Erin go bragh! Alba go bragh! From the TRUE fighting race!
deadfan666 2 years ago
Truly an amazing song.
SouthCountry10 2 years ago 3
One who validates tyranny with so much history has a conscience of condemnation to justify the acts of such leaders who have condemened so many to less a life that is guaranted to all men.
The english are just as guilty of making men slaves to the rich industrialist as our congress are doing so now in our country. The Irsh and Scotts have tradition of fighting such ambitions.
ProphetEric 2 years ago
@ProphetEric - you are right. Good post!
moejeffreys 2 years ago
stefanlana, from the film, "Gods and Generals"
RevFrJoel1 2 years ago
britan and mexico didnt care not france neither we hate u for it
wowhobbster666 2 years ago
I had ancestors on both sides of the war. My GGG Grandfather was a Yankee Irishman with the 63rd PA Regiment & my other GGG Grandfather was a Reb physician (sawbones) with the 11th Texas Calvary & later the 62nd TN. My Yankee ancestor was wounded severely at the first battle of the Seven Days Battle outside of Richmond, where it is believed my Reb ancestor was tending to wounded from both sides. I am proud of both of these good men & will remember & honor the nearly 700,000 lives that were lost.
ThymeTravelers 2 years ago 5
@ThymeTravelers Well spoken! Honor all of the fallen. USA or CSA, the word "American" can still be found in both.
cyberplunge 1 year ago
what is this movie
stefanlana 2 years ago
God save the U.S.A. (& C.S.A.) God save America, I hope that satisfies all my american brothers, we still & will always stand by you...
dancin79 2 years ago
amen to that laddy.we stand strong tho,and ta hell with wat others think of us! we are irish, and we're proud of our heritage!
BrianEMusic 2 years ago 5
This is the problem with us Irish, we sing at the drop of a hat, but ask us to talk and we won't
theRealOsprey22 2 years ago 6
@theRealOsprey22 ,have u anything original? you got that from the film micheal collins. haha. do u normally do that?
ruaraic 2 years ago
Right because hes not actually Irish
roddyjojo 2 years ago
@roddyjojo thank u.
ruaraic 2 years ago
Well clearly some one said it before the big fella said it.
hannigan06 2 years ago
The Irish killing each other".Every cause but their own".Emily Lawless.
billyhunchback 2 years ago
5 stars
rifleman1122 2 years ago
=') beautiful! Lol jk buts it is a beautiful song
Killstuffyeah 2 years ago
This song is good for panjo practice.
GaurdDuck 2 years ago
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tr230023 2 years ago
Now this should not have been cut from the movie. That guy sure could sing.
LivingCrusader 2 years ago 37
Was it cut? I swear i remember seeing it...
dude853 2 years ago
no it was cut ive been hunting for it
jparment1 2 years ago
I agree, he sung one awesome song!
LordAstaris 2 years ago
no, its not. moving pictures were started in the 1920s idiot
elffanatic2000 2 years ago
i suppose next your gonna tell me that the movie braveheart wasnt actual footage either.
shilelea 2 years ago
XD no, but you shouldnt post stupid things like that, otherwise people will think you're stupid, and that would be your own fault
elffanatic2000 2 years ago
@elffanatic2000 he was being sarcastic
captainamerica50 1 year ago
actually all Irish regiments were good regiments because they had war in thier blood....and the 28th Mass could easily rival if not beat the 69th NYVI in being the best Irish regiment in the war (Even though all irish regiments were hard fighting units)
ThePickleStork 2 years ago 2
watch the fighting 69th ,meagher,s bridgade ,at stone wall, what bravery ,irish killed irish for the u.s.a.
meagher100 2 years ago
I suppose the saying is actually right, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
Laochra 2 years ago 3
Try watching the movie "One Man's Hero" about Irish who fought for Mexico against aggression from their northern neighbor.
benedick47 2 years ago 2
I'd have to dispute with you your assertion that Mexico fought against aggression from its northern neighbor... Mexico did attack the United States after all, and arguably in America.
Robertz1986 2 years ago
"Arguably?"
It is fitting that the aggression against Mexico on behalf of slave power should be brought in re: the Civil War. This Mexican war was ginned up to win new territory to benefit slavery expansion.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
The United States was half slave states, half free states, more than simply a "slave power". While the US did accept the independent republic of Texas into the US, and accepted Texan claims to the border, this is a legitimate dispute. Mexico attacked us over this, and in the ensuing war, we gained their northern territories which were almost unpopulated by Mexicans (but had native populations waging war against Mexico). We did want the land though, and paid Mexico for it at wars conclusion.
Robertz1986 2 years ago
I am referring to the partisan interrests tha pushed the war on the U.S. as the slave power. This is how the Whigs & GOP referred to the apologists & beneficiaries of slavery @ the time. Polk's scheming inflation of a border skirmish the disputed strip between the Nueces & Rio Grande Rivers was a great lie. The Slave Power & the Democrat Party (the same thing reall) wanted a strip of land to permit the continued expansion of slavery.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
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TubeTaxPro 2 years ago
Gods and Generals
TexanTillIDie1 2 years ago
where can i get this song?
Verseification 2 years ago
Read description, Gods and Generals.
furiousdane69 2 years ago
why is this scene deleted its sutch a good one!!?
yordi193 2 years ago 4
I belive that CSA was born on evil arguments but that was not it's own fault.
So glory to the confederate soldiers fighting for their land.
Filohippo2 2 years ago
What fims dis from?
shanesmurph 2 years ago
shanesmurph. its from Gods and Generals and u should read the info before or after the video
nick578x 2 years ago
God's and General's.
Itsmeagain9145 2 years ago
Americans....
finipops 2 years ago
sarame287,
I own this video, but I don't have this deleted scene, is it a special addition? This is one of my favorite movies, and if there is an upgraded dvd, I would like to get it. Thanks for the video
bluegsp 2 years ago
spartanwarrior1, and how long did it take you to do it? It's far from over. Round 2 is around the corner.
tpajason 2 years ago
im an english catholic with a little scottish and irish background. If I was in n america in 1860 I would have fought for the Confederacy
toonmag50 2 years ago 6
pope pius ix supported the south because of america's prejudice towards catholics. he even sent a crown of thorns to jeff davis when he was imprisioned after the war, to symbolically show he was being cruxified.
hartshornguy 2 years ago 2
the more I learn about the American Civil war the more I realise that the propaganda expounded to the rest of the world from the winning side is fundamentally distorted and probably wrong. Its ironic that it has taken the development of I.T to allow this.
toonmag50 2 years ago 3
in what way? positive or negative towards my comment?
hartshornguy 2 years ago
as the expression goes "the winner writes history" I have learned much about the Confederacy that is not provided outside the u.s. I am now very supportive of the CSA and can imagine that an independant south with its unique culture and attitude would have made north america a very different place it is now. I will drink a pint to the south tonight
toonmag50 2 years ago
i had ancestors fight for the union, get captured and sent to the now infamous andersonville prison camp where they died, God rest their souls, but i still support the south. the south had many anomalies like the south had a indian high in in the ranks, its was general Stand Watie who reeked havoc out in the west, i.e. texas and arkansas. along with that the story of general joe shelby who would not surrender so he went down to south america and breed with the locals.
hartshornguy 2 years ago
The south was predominately Protestant. Many Ulster Scots and Irish from the "Northern Fringe" emigrated to the American South in the 15th century because the warmer climate made sustenance farmer more possible. Any immigrants of catholic persuasion simply would have been absorbed into the culture and typically would have become Protestant themselves.
shootsomecoyotes 2 years ago 2
I'm the product of the Scot's Irish Presbyterian Migration. Both sides of the Family. Both Came thru North Carolina - Tennessee by the out break of the Civil War my gg grandfather's fought for the confederacy for Tennessee. Good information sir.
randallscott25 2 years ago
I'm a good ole rebel...............
oldmanhurtin 2 years ago
I am confused -the yankee soldiers would have been catholic gaelic from the south of ireland but I thought the confederate army and culture would have disliked catholicism and i assume the irish in the csa would have been ulster prods. Why would ulster protestants want to leave the british empire?
toonmag50 2 years ago
My Ulster Scot Protestants left the British Empire for the South. Had to do with greater opp's for farming
randallscott25 2 years ago
cuz america used to offer better chances than any where else
frankthetankize 2 years ago
The confederates promised to free the irish from great britian so the irish made the right choice i dont think so though but thats only because im british
ComradeMRF 2 years ago
The CSA was backed by the Crown...
also, 69th NYVI, look it up. best Irish regiment of the entire war. also from the North
rifleman1122 2 years ago