Mortars are incredible weapons. Mounted on this vehicle and with all those fire computers and optics, all that badass stuff, it will make a lot of enemies shit on pant.
where the fuck are you getting this from dumbfuck??? where the hell do you see 1970s tech. here you brainwashed little fucker ...the 2S31 Vena can fire a heavy 120mm guided, HEAT, smoke, and thermobaric munitions 15km's... it has an all digital fire control system, navigation computer, and optical recon. sights you faggot... suck facts you piece of shit!
Traits of this close support system: Large combat load, mobility, firepower, low silhouette, flexible firing trajectory. Most countries simply put a towed mortar inside a tracked chasis, and that's their system, which isn't bad, but it doesn't fulfill all requirements very well. There is a reason why there is guns, howitzers, and mortars. None alone fulfill all requirements. Vena's canon is the closest to fulfilling this than any single type of canon type. Each have useful characteristics.
Flexible firing trajectory is important. Direct-fire is best for moving targets, or precision aiming toward a building for example. Most mortar systems can't do this, only a few, and this is one of them. It can fire conventional mortar rounds, and has a unique howitzer round with rifling band grooves on the projectile. In addition, the barrel of the Vena is rifled as well. This allows accurate fire in direct-fire mode, and indirect arcing howitzer mode as well fulfilling mortar mode.
Autoloaders take up too much space in turrets kibabiba. It's a rule of thumb to keep frontline vehicles small, and flat offering low silhouette, which makes it harder to hit. Heavy SP Gun-Howitzers such as the MSTA-S 2s19, and Chinese PLL05 have huge turret hulls, because the autoloader requires a lot of space, however, those are purely indirect fire weapons. You don't understand the concept of this weapon kibabiba. It has flexible trajectory to meet certain firing requirments.
I'm sure he did not do his research, but most Russian systems are not as well equipped with guided systems as similar western systems. Also, I would point out that the Wiesel mortar system you commented on does nearly the same thing as this, except it is much more compact and easily carried by helicopter.
You are mistaken asdfsdf2. 2s31 Vena has a computerized fire control. You are talking about the older systems. As far as guided munitions, there is laser guided rounds, and no Wiesel Mortar System system doesn't do nearly as much as this in certain respects. Wiesel Mortar System is mortar system. This Vena is a mortar system, and more. Vena can do much more roles than Wiesel Mortar System. Vena, and Wiesel are designed with different concepts.
The Wiesel Mortar System is a pure mortar. Vena is a gun/howitzer/mortar hybrid platform for paratroopers, or airborne. The versatile canon is very accurate in direct fire, because the canon has rifling grooves, and the projectile itself has rifling grooves on a band all around, near the base of the shell. It can fire mortar rounds, and fire like a howitzer for more range. Vena is a versatile specialist platform. There is even guided shells for it, and carries a large payload 70 rounds.
It is very accurate in long range direct fire. Wiesel Mortar System simply can't accurately put a round through a window in building like Vena can, so Vena has more combat of a combat role than a mortar, because paratroopers operating behind enemy lines can't afford to carry all types of weapons. The canon isn't of a high velocity nature like a tank gun, so it doesn't offer great anti-armor capability, only against light armored vehicles with a special round. Vena rounds are semi-fixed as well.
Vena can fire two major categories of ammo which are mortars, and it's own special howitzer round. Howitzer round is semi-fixed meaning that the propellant charge can be adjusted for zones like a conventional howitzer today, but loads as one piece into the breech similar to a US m119 105mm howitzer with the propellant attached to a stick at the base of the shell rather than packed into a canister case, then finally at the end of the stick, base plate like the bottom of a traditional mortar.
It's a mortar-howitzer. It's not just a mortar system. It fires two kinds of ammunition. One is a regular mortar for high trajectory, and there is a separate howitzer round which has ready made grooves on the projectile. However you don't load propellant. The howitzer round is pure howitzer strictly speaking. Getting it's range purely on canon elevation, so can be used to fired with line of sight directly. Direct fire has been used in many conflicts even in modern ones.
Oh wait, RussianPower666 is correct. I thought this was an old Nonak video. It's a gun, not a mortar. RussianPower is correct. Didn't bother to read video description, only comments really.
It's a mortar/howitzer hybrid. It's not a tank killer. It has a versitile trajectory direct/indirect fire. It can fire standard mortars mines at steeper angles, and higher canon elevation. It does have antiarmor ammunition, but they only good against light armor. The unique ammunition for this system is a projectile with ready-made grooves on the shell itself for direct fire. It's very lethal at a artillery system. Producing good sized 33,000 fragments, piercing 8mm of armor.
Mortars are incredible weapons. Mounted on this vehicle and with all those fire computers and optics, all that badass stuff, it will make a lot of enemies shit on pant.
bubaleite 4 months ago
@bittemeinrammstein The us army is full now of brainwashed faggots.
yuri60014 5 months ago
Mortars are "1920's technology." Doesn't mean they're not useful.
gosciu555 1 year ago
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1970's tect
Conservativepacheat 3 years ago
where the fuck are you getting this from dumbfuck??? where the hell do you see 1970s tech. here you brainwashed little fucker ...the 2S31 Vena can fire a heavy 120mm guided, HEAT, smoke, and thermobaric munitions 15km's... it has an all digital fire control system, navigation computer, and optical recon. sights you faggot... suck facts you piece of shit!
bittemeinrammstein 2 years ago 14
Hahaha, calm down!
matta173 2 years ago
1996
ReDDDgo 2 years ago
Traits of this close support system: Large combat load, mobility, firepower, low silhouette, flexible firing trajectory. Most countries simply put a towed mortar inside a tracked chasis, and that's their system, which isn't bad, but it doesn't fulfill all requirements very well. There is a reason why there is guns, howitzers, and mortars. None alone fulfill all requirements. Vena's canon is the closest to fulfilling this than any single type of canon type. Each have useful characteristics.
PontiffMystic 3 years ago 2
Flexible firing trajectory is important. Direct-fire is best for moving targets, or precision aiming toward a building for example. Most mortar systems can't do this, only a few, and this is one of them. It can fire conventional mortar rounds, and has a unique howitzer round with rifling band grooves on the projectile. In addition, the barrel of the Vena is rifled as well. This allows accurate fire in direct-fire mode, and indirect arcing howitzer mode as well fulfilling mortar mode.
PontiffMystic 3 years ago
Without autoloader????!!!! Why?!!
I thought only yanks put additional niggers inside their tanks to load shells, because it's cheaper))))
kibabiba 3 years ago 4
Autoloaders take up too much space in turrets kibabiba. It's a rule of thumb to keep frontline vehicles small, and flat offering low silhouette, which makes it harder to hit. Heavy SP Gun-Howitzers such as the MSTA-S 2s19, and Chinese PLL05 have huge turret hulls, because the autoloader requires a lot of space, however, those are purely indirect fire weapons. You don't understand the concept of this weapon kibabiba. It has flexible trajectory to meet certain firing requirments.
PontiffMystic 3 years ago
i agree, auto-loaders are great for tanks, and NLOS artillery
bittemeinrammstein 2 years ago
But it is not guided
IsraeliXdude 3 years ago
YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOT !
KBP tula is producing shell for those vehicle !
and it is well guided !
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
I'm sure he did not do his research, but most Russian systems are not as well equipped with guided systems as similar western systems. Also, I would point out that the Wiesel mortar system you commented on does nearly the same thing as this, except it is much more compact and easily carried by helicopter.
Also, THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT!
asdfsdf2 3 years ago
HA HA HA...
Keep on trolling you Burger-King neo-cretin !
:-)
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
"YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOT !"
"THIS IS SHIT !"
"Burger-King neo-cretin !"
Yeah...I'm the troll? (though i applaud your sense of irony if that's what :-) means)
asdfsdf2 3 years ago
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MultipleEFP:
You have a piece of shit in your head instead of brain, fuck off you Russia-lovinng rectal-rooter and Russia sucks exactly like you, communist pig.
ElJackale 3 years ago
You are mistaken asdfsdf2. 2s31 Vena has a computerized fire control. You are talking about the older systems. As far as guided munitions, there is laser guided rounds, and no Wiesel Mortar System system doesn't do nearly as much as this in certain respects. Wiesel Mortar System is mortar system. This Vena is a mortar system, and more. Vena can do much more roles than Wiesel Mortar System. Vena, and Wiesel are designed with different concepts.
PontiffMystic 3 years ago 7
The Wiesel Mortar System is a pure mortar. Vena is a gun/howitzer/mortar hybrid platform for paratroopers, or airborne. The versatile canon is very accurate in direct fire, because the canon has rifling grooves, and the projectile itself has rifling grooves on a band all around, near the base of the shell. It can fire mortar rounds, and fire like a howitzer for more range. Vena is a versatile specialist platform. There is even guided shells for it, and carries a large payload 70 rounds.
SamuelMoralesJr 2 years ago
It is very accurate in long range direct fire. Wiesel Mortar System simply can't accurately put a round through a window in building like Vena can, so Vena has more combat of a combat role than a mortar, because paratroopers operating behind enemy lines can't afford to carry all types of weapons. The canon isn't of a high velocity nature like a tank gun, so it doesn't offer great anti-armor capability, only against light armored vehicles with a special round. Vena rounds are semi-fixed as well.
SamuelMoralesJr 2 years ago
Vena can fire two major categories of ammo which are mortars, and it's own special howitzer round. Howitzer round is semi-fixed meaning that the propellant charge can be adjusted for zones like a conventional howitzer today, but loads as one piece into the breech similar to a US m119 105mm howitzer with the propellant attached to a stick at the base of the shell rather than packed into a canister case, then finally at the end of the stick, base plate like the bottom of a traditional mortar.
SamuelMoralesJr 2 years ago
LOL about the music.The Tank is awesome!
Wofka1986 3 years ago
It's an amazing system. You gotta admire the Russians sometimes.
nutcas 3 years ago
It's a mortar-howitzer. It's not just a mortar system. It fires two kinds of ammunition. One is a regular mortar for high trajectory, and there is a separate howitzer round which has ready made grooves on the projectile. However you don't load propellant. The howitzer round is pure howitzer strictly speaking. Getting it's range purely on canon elevation, so can be used to fired with line of sight directly. Direct fire has been used in many conflicts even in modern ones.
nutcas 3 years ago
Opps actually RussianPower666 is wrong. I take back what I said. Oops again.
nutcas 3 years ago
Oh wait, RussianPower666 is correct. I thought this was an old Nonak video. It's a gun, not a mortar. RussianPower is correct. Didn't bother to read video description, only comments really.
nutcas 3 years ago
It's a mortar/howitzer hybrid. It's not a tank killer. It has a versitile trajectory direct/indirect fire. It can fire standard mortars mines at steeper angles, and higher canon elevation. It does have antiarmor ammunition, but they only good against light armor. The unique ammunition for this system is a projectile with ready-made grooves on the shell itself for direct fire. It's very lethal at a artillery system. Producing good sized 33,000 fragments, piercing 8mm of armor.
nutcas 3 years ago
WRONG! it can be both - fire po navesnoi and straight
fivestars20 3 years ago
best self propelled mortor on earth!
bittemeinrammstein 4 years ago