Amen I am love with the holy spirit too yes we can change the world with love not we hate the children are the future of these country because god will always be in control faith and leadeship like jesus christ he died For I died for him ame
I'm personally fascinated with the Catholic Church--I find the cathedrals and the music the most beautiful pieces of art man has created--and the liturgy very powerful. But I don't understand how the many atrocities committed by the church for centuries can be so easily dismissed, and that the CC can claim they are still the Rock of Christ. God withdrew his Spirit from its leaders long ago, and even if they are reformed today, they lost many plain & simple truths relevant to the early church.
A typical accusation made by someone who gets their theological education from the Internet rather than the living tradition of Christ that has been preserved for 2000 years in the Catholic Church.
And not to exclude you, my friend, here's a response you can understand: YOU DUMB!
The Reformationists think Catholics are actually worshipping statues and crucifixes when we kneel down in front of them. Neither do they understand the difference between Veneration or Adoration. This combination cannot fail to lead them to make accusations of idolatory, Once you understand what they lack in terms of knowledge, it becomes easier to understand their opinions.
@reginaDexant STFU I know what I am talking about. I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic Institution, educated by the Benedictans. I get my information from what I was taught, what I participated in, and the abuse I suffered especially in the confessional. You are the Pseudo-Christ institution. Your Tradition will lead you straight to hell-no purgatory-no plenary indulgences. You better use your common sense and read the Bible, the Word of God.
If you were really educated in a Catholic institution, then why are you making such blatantly false claims which are rooted entirely in the calumnies of the Reformationists? Do you even understand the theology behind Indulgences?
As for using your common sense and read the Bible - you do realise that everyone interprets it differently and ends up with countless different denominations, all contradicting this and that. How can truth come of that?
@Cathain78 I do understand the practicality of indulgences-the Pope sells them to make money. You have no theology-do you know what that word means? You study pseudo or false gods. How about this from the Word of the Most High God-It is appointed to man once to die and then the judgment. Hebrews 9:27 Ooops..your mom or wife ain't gonna pray your burning a** our of hell, even if they go to Mass every day and buy a dedication card or say prayers on a silver Rosary. You better look for TRUTH.
@BrotherofNalts its phenomenal in person, the choir. its just that handheld video recorders cant capture the clairty of the notes. ive been there in person, and i expected it to be triumphant or glorious but the best word for the liturgy of st peters is just plain angelic.
I wonder how long it took the priests to process up there. My mass could probably finish. At my archdiocese,which is not very big as compared to others, took at least 30 minutes to get all the priest and deacons up there. There were like 80 total lol
brother of nalts, how do you know so much about the catholic church? i have gone to catholic schools my whole life including college. i thought i knew a lot untill now...
Why did the pope as bishop of rome, celebrate this chrism mass in St. Peter? Why not in Basilica Laterano, the cathedral of Rome? because usually, bishop celebrate the chrism mass in their cathedral..
Good question! The pope is out of the law. As funny as its sounds: Saint peters is his house-chapel. He is the sucsessor of peter, so he hold mess over this holy tomb. He does this for the whole world first as POPE. It is not a mess from the bishop of rome.
I hope you understood, english is not my motherlanguage.
You're confused.... U got one thing right by paying attention to Paul... U need to read his scriptures since he delt with the gentiles... Umm but how are you going to make it to zion unless you follow Israel(those who Ehyeh placed the covenent with???) There's a reason why the world wanted us sleep for so long but now we're awake... U can't deny this force that we have for we have the Favor of Ehyeh...
My brother, you continue to avoid any discussion about Christ, the Apostles, the Church and the Eucharist. We are going nowhere. You have fallen into some Zionist heresy and you are picking and choosing what you want to believe. Jesus Christ IS the covenant - sealed not with the blood of animals but with the Blood of the Father's only Son. But it comes down to this: If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.
8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
I couldn't agree with you more. And Paul chastised the people of Corinth for accepting a Gospel other than the one Paul preached (2 Cor 11). So what did Paul preach? Well, you can find that in 1 Cor 11:23. And that's what is going on in this video, my friend. It's the religious rite that Paul preached. It's the Passover Feast of the Lamb of God instituted by Christ at the Last Supper. What are you doing to respond to the command of Jesus to "do this in memory of Me"? Lk 22:19
The "prophecies" to which you are referring have already been fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Son of David. The only Salvation is through Christ. Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you shall have no life within you (John 6:54). If you deny Christ, He will deny you before His father. (1 John 2:23). You are denying Christ by denying that He Himself founded a Church and gave authority to His Apostles.
Jesus founded a Church (Mt 16:18). And He appointed Twelve Apostles with kingship (Lk 22:29) and told them that they will sit on thrones (Lk 22:30) administering the affairs of the twelve tribes of Israel (Lk 22:30). He charged them with a Great Commission to make disciples of all nations (Mt 28:16). So Salvation comes *from* the Jews because Christ was Jewish, but is *by* incorporation into the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ - which has nothing to do with earthly bloodlines.
Jesus Christ is the Word made Flesh. He is the fulfillment of the Torah (the Word) and the Temple (his Body). He is the fulfillment of all of the prophecies made to Abraham and his descendants. There is no Salvation outside of Jesus Christ.
I bet you celebrate christmas and easter and birthdays?? If u do u need to stop. and worshippin on sundays. The sabbath is saturday so keep that day holy. psalm138:6 jeremiah10:1-4
Since the first century, when Christ came, all worship has been directed through Him to the Father. That is what was revealed. We celebrate his birth, death, resurrection and ascension, because those are the events that led to our salvation. And we meet on the Lord's day, which was the day He rose.
No,charismaticchosen1 didn't choose her EHYEH choose her!!!
Read Deuteronomy 27:1,Deut.28:15,Deut. 28:68 so u can get a clear understanding on this... The pope is satanic man and it's a shame that all you have to hold onto is a lie... Christ wasn't even a virgin birth for if He was virgin birth then how can He be of the son of David??? The immaculate conception is pure satanic. So i guess if it wasn't for Mary then there wouldn't be any Christ. Sounds like Semramis to me... LOL
Oh, I get it now. You're running the "church of you." All of your Biblical interpretation is based on your own opinion or some nutty websites you're reading. Tell me something, chief, are you fluent in Hebrew and Greek? Have you read any of the Church fathers (e.g. Irenaeus, Cyprian, Augustine)? Because if you don't read the Bible in the original languages, and if you don't know what people were writing about the Bible in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. centuries, then you are flying BLIND.
I don't know any Aramaic except for the few words that Jesus used in Scripture. Hebrew and Greek, yes. And the Mass is hardly a pagan tradition since it is celebrated according to the command of Jesus Christ to "do this in memory of Me."
brother , you provide no scripture to back up what you are saying??? Christ founded the catholic church??? show me that scripture??? Church fathers irenaeus?cyprian?augustine?? That shows u dont listen to scripture Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
And These brothers u named are gentiles, they have no right to come and add scripture to the word, God, only dealt with israel concerning scripture,
Jesus founded a Church (Mt 16:18). And He appointed the Twelve Apostles with kingship (Lk 22:29) and told them that they will sit on thrones (Lk 22:30) administering the affairs of the twelve tribes of Israel (Lk 22:30). He charged them with a Great Commission to make disciples of all nations (Mt 28:16). Therefore the Church is ONE (Jn 10:16), HOLY (founded by Christ) APOSTOLIC and CATHOLIC (which means "universal").
Christ said he will build a church, he never said the catholic church, as a matter of fact show me where in the bible christ told us to have a pope, and matthew 28:18 is never said to give permission for people to write scripture, it says teach so i dont see where your going with that one
As a matter i want you to answer me this question, is the catholic church the largest religion or church on earth?
Jesus founded the Church on Peter. And there has been an unbroken chain of Successors to St. Peter as teh Bishop of Rome. In fact, Peter is buried under the altar at St. Peter's Basilica. He was killed by Nero, and buried on the Vatican Hill in 64 A.D. Do you think Christ wanted His Church to cease to exist after the death of the last apostle? I don't think so. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail. And that means ever.
There is only one Church that existed at the time of Christ and still exists today. Only one. So there is only one against whom the "gates of hell" have not prevailed. I'm just connecting the dots and doing the math. Arius had a church, as did Nestorius and Pelagius. Gates of hell prevailed. And look at the Church of England. It cut itself off of the vine, and now the gates of hell are prevailing. History is littered with the dried branches of those who cut themselves off of the vine.
brother, the catholic church wasnt even in existence during the time of christ, at all, where do you get this information from, and look at the practices the roman church does, peganism, hell has broken through, catholic church isnt the church christ spoke of
What Bible are you using?? There are 109 references to the "Church" or "churches" in the New Testament. The word is "ecclesia" in Greek. Christ founded the Church, and the Church wrote the Bible. Only one Church existed at the time of Christ, and only one Church that existed at that time of Christ still exists. Study some history before you start calling something satanic. And stop reading all of those nutty conspiracy websites.
Christianity is the largest religion in the world. Until about the year 1000 there was only ONE Christian Church in the whole world - the one that Christ founded. Then there was a split with the East, and there were basically two: Orthodox and Roman Catholic. Since the Protestant Reformation, there are many Christian "communities," since anybody can say they have a "church." Only one can trace itself back to Jesus through Peter. It's called "catholic" because it is universal.
imm gonna leave it at this, you admitted that christianity is the largest religion correct, now this is from christs words Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian or a Catholic will be saved. Membership doesn't mean anything if you aren't living according to God's commands. Glad we agree on something! Shalom!
Do you even know what the Immaculate Conception is? I bet you think it means that Jesus was conceived without Mary having intercourse. Well, not what it is. That's the "incarnation" or the "virgin birth." And it's Biblical. (Lk 1:34 and the first chapter of Matthew) And Mary cooperated in our Salvation. Without Christ there would be no Mary. And Christ chose her. Mary's obedience to God reversed Eve's disobedience. She became the "new Eve," and Christ is the "new Adam" (1 Cor. 15:45).
Salvation means dominion and rulership... Salvation is of the jews aka Israel... Israel was set up to rule this world clown...
Deuteronomy 7:6 (King James Version) 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
The Pople isn't of Israel... Read Genesis 49 and you will see Jacob breaking prophecy down for his 12 CHILDREN!!!
yes the twelve disciples are the ones judging with the Savior. I agree. But he never divorved his people. Salvation is for Israel. The gentiles know of him thru us.
There is no doubt that God revealed His saving plan for Salvation through the Jewish people. But Christ wants all to be one, as He and the Father are one (Jn 17:24), and He wants all to be saved (1 Tim 2:4)
Christ gave his Twelve Apostles "authority" (Mt. 28:16). And they passed it down in an unbroken line of succession through the laying on of hands (Acts 6:6).
Dang, I can't be doing all of the work for you. If you don't know the entire Bible, then that's your fault. Search for "twelve" in the New Testament of an online Bible. One text that's pretty basic is Mat. 19:28, but the Bible has to be read as a whole. You can't pick and choose your verses to make an argument. Anything can mean anything out of context.
We not readin the truth from any websites but from our Holy Books the Bible. read Isaiah 28:10. read the entire book(which i have) and gather here a little there a little and build it together. wisdom can not enter into a proud heart.Isaiah29:13 you r taught by the precept of men, not godly men. heathens.
You don't have any true understanding of biblical text that's why you're lost. You're being spoiled with pholosaphey and vain deciete like Paul said... Listen about the foolish remark about graven images of family in my house... Well, Einstein they're not in heaven so that scripture x's what ever the heck you were trying to say.
The Catholic church is very wicked. it breaks the first commandment thou shalt not have no other Gods before me. and the second thou shalt not bow down or make unto thee ANY graven image and thats all they do. I know. I was catholic until i came to the truth. The real gospel.Deut 28:68 when did those fakers khazars went somewhere on a ship?? never. they not poor. they not oppressed. revelations 3:9
There is one God in Catholicism, and He has revealed Himself to us as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And Catholics don't "bow down to any graven images." The Truth is Jesus Christ, and He will set you free. But He founded the Catholic Church to conserve His teachings. Who founded your church? You? You are "charismaticchosen1." Well, who chose you? Did you choose yourself?
Your logic or reasoning is completly absurd based on pagan traditions. And for your information I am learning hebrew and translating the original texts for myself. Todays hebrew is a yiddish version not the version written in the original texts. I did not choose myself. He loved me first and choose me. You should not be so proud and boasting. After pride comes fall. We are simply correcting you. So do not scorn correction it is done in a spirit of love. We should call no man father.
I hope you don't have any photographs of your family in your house, because those would be graven images, too. The Twelve Tribes were translated by Christ into the Twelve Apostles as he desired to save everyone, not just those blood descendants of Abraham. Salvation came through the Jews, but it is not limited to them. You're using a skewed, personal interpretation of Biblical texts to create your own reality.
Catholisism isn't the true church... It's a mask for Satan... Look at all the graven images yall got up in the church man...lol
Rome is where Satan dwells. The bible says call no man father on earth so who do yall call the pope?
I stand for something playa and it's called truth. How can the Catholics be the way and there is so much wickedness in the world. All the money and power that they have why haven't they shown the 12 Tribes of Israel yet????
The Church was founded by Christ, and his first leader was named Simon Bar-Jonah. Jesus named him Peter (Mt 16:18) and told him that the "gates of Hell would not prevail against the Church." Peter journeyed to Rome, and was killed in Nero's circus in 64 AD. He was then buried on the Vatican Hill, and you can visit his tomb, which has been archeologically verified. Google "scavi." If you say that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church, you have made Jesus Christ a liar.
I already addressed the "father" issue above. As far as the "graven image" issue, that would be a heresy called "iconclasm." You can google that, also. It has come up many times in the history of the Church. The Muslims are pretty big on it.
And if you're drawing connections between Babylonian gods and Jesus Christ and His Church through coincidences in artistic representations or allegorical symbolism, then, well, you're a little nutty. I'm sorry. Those who believe in nothing are destined to believe in anything. BTW, did you know the Catholic Church teaches that Winnie the Pooh is God?
Google Semramis, Nimrod, & Tammuz and you will see that the mother mary is "Semramis" and the child is "Tammuz"... Babylon is in full effect inside the Vatican... The Vatican is tha home of Satan...
Sorry about that. I must have done it by accident. I didn't intend to hide your bizarre "Babylonian" theory. What I would tell you, "playa," is not to believe every nutty theory you read on the internet. Doing so makes you sound nutty. I hope you don't find a page that declares that "Winnie the Pooh is God," because you might believe that, too. The truth of Christ will set you free, but your Semramis, Nimrod, Tammuz (might as well throw in Horus, Isis and Seb) theory is just, well, nutty.
You wouldn't know about Jesus if the Catholic Church hadn't written about Him in the Bible. Read the Acts of the Apostles. The Church was before the Bible. It existed from the time Jesus gave the Apostles authority, and it still exists by virtue of the Successors to those Apostles in an unbroken chain from the time of Christ. I'm sorry that someone has polluted your mind with hatred and lies. There is only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Oh, so I guess what you mean to say is that Paul's letter to the Corinthians is not the word of God. If it's God's word, then it's all equal. Let's be clear here.
What you have, my friend, are conflicting Biblical passages. Is one right and one wrong? Or is there something "non-literal" going on? Is there something that you might be missing?
Only an institution founded by Christ can endure until the end of time. Other Christian communities come and go, depending upon the personal charism of their founder. The Cathoic Church is Christ's Church. It preaches Him as Savior, it's Biblical, and it is the only Church to which Christ promised that "the gates of hell will not prevail against it." After 2000 years, even the devil knows it's not going away.
Unfortunately, the Pope and the (catholic) church are the most distant institutions from the message of Jesus. The Pope is a cold-hearted, mean, avid and avar man, who's closer to being a Politician than a man of Jesus. Shame. Lorenzo
arev you sure? i dont believe you. the catholic church IS the ONLY church with direct linage to apostolic times! this is not a shame, its something we should be proud of! wanna be converted?
I'll watch it when I have time, and comment. But I would ask you to think for yourself. You're repeating the polemical attacks of other people as your own. Have you researched any of the things you're saying? There the same tired polemics that are consistently used by anti-Catholics. Read Keatings "Catholicism and Fundamentalism" to get an understanding of the historical basis of your polemics.
another thing brotherof nalts, in the gospel of john jesus says that we must be born again. if you are not born again, then how can one understand heavenly things when one can't even understand earthly things. when you are born again, you become a child of god. it's a new life in christ. have you ever seen the movie the gospel of john? are you a catholic priest? 8/
You were born again when you were placed in the waters and baptized in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And you gradually came into an understanding of that. But don't confuse the Holy Spirit with an "emotion" or a "feeling." The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. And the truth will set you free. And Christ is the way, the truth and the life.
i am very tired right now and I'm quick to comment...I will get back to you tomorrow after some sleep...maybe we can take this conversation somewhere else?? by the way, my name is Christian :)
Thanks, Christian. I'm on the other side of the world, and it's morning here. Please send me a YT message, and perhaps we can take this to email rather than filling up my comments.
you know what amazes me? Jesus sat there at a table and broke bread and drank wine with His desciples. and look what we have now, we have a manufactured piece of wafer that people stand in line to have a man hold it in your face and say the body of Christ. do you actually think that what Jesus wants? r u serious? what doing what He actually did? breaking bread and drinking wine in remembrance of me? a gathering of friends and family around a table and talking about Jesus and the Gospels?
breaking bread on the true sabbath! but the vatican changed that too! lol I give up Lord.. why is it that people believe more in what they see than in The Word of God?
There was no "Vatican" when Christians started gathering on the the first day of the week - the day of the Resurrection. And it was meant to commemorate the Resurrection, and draw a connection between the first day of Creation ("let there be light") and the Creator ("I am the light of the world").
wow, now you are getting a little too weird! let's face it, you believe more in your man-made religion than you do in The WOrd of God! and please, Holy Spirit in the catholic church?? went there for 12 years, have never even had once had one ounce of spiritual movement! seriously brother, watch the video!
The Catholic Church is not a "man-made religion." It was founded by Christ on Peter and the other eleven. And it existed *before* the New Testament. Read the Acts of the Apostles. The "Church" was active, and St. Luke (inspired by the Holy Spirit) wrote Acts to describe the activity of the Church.
okay, okay! lets say Jesus came to earth to establish a 'physical' church, ya know with pews an altars and lets not forget confessionals..now can you honestly say that there are no flaws in your religion of the centuries? if you say yes, then you are saying the Jesus is not perfect in all of His Glorious ways! Think about my question for awhile..and what about my factual statements from previous popes, no comment?
I've already admitted that the Church is made up of sinful men. But the Church has never erred when it has declared on faith and morals. Have there been disputes? Yes. There were disputes about the nature of the Divinity of Jesus, and the Council of Nicea (guided by the Holy Spirit) settled it. You might as well quote Arius for the proposition that Jesus was not God, and say the the Church said it.
Not only do I know Jesus Christ, the Living God, but I follow His commandment each day - to make Him present on the Altar. And I actually *eat His body and drink His blood* as He Himself told me to (John 6) so that I might have eternal life.
come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Revelation 17 & 18
I often wonder what possesses people to take Bible verses out of context and direct them disparagingly toward other people. Matthew 16:18. Jesus founded my Church. And its current leadership can be traced back, through the laying on of hands (Acts 6:6), to the Apostles. Who founded your community? Oh, and you're welcome for the New Testament. My Church wrote it.
nalts, it's funny how catholics claim to have written the bible, I always thought it was The Word of God. if you believe that those 2 verses claim to tell the Truth of what the catholic religion is, then I feel sorry for you. but that's what they claim and that's what they boast! in my opinion, your religion worships the lord of bondage and confusion and corruption! They do not worship The Living God of Salvation.
The Bible was written by men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. God did not inscribe it on tablets like the Ten Commandments. Don't feel sorry for me; feel sorry for people who reject the One Church that Jesus Christ founded on St. Peter - a Church that has endured for 2000 years and suffered much harsher persecution than you have the ability to inflict.
I was baptized, raised and brainwashed into that cult. I know what it is!! Oh believe me, catholicism will endure till the end of time... who do you think is running the show? it certainly isn't The Word of God, but instead men who are not Born Again. Have you ever heard an ex-catholic priests testimony about how he left your church and accepted Jesus has his Saviour?
Only an institution founded by Christ can endure until the end of time. Other Christian communities come and go, depending upon the personal charism of their founder. The Cathoic Church is Christ's Church. It preaches Him as Savior, it's Biblical, and it's made up of sinners. I'm happy you found a community that's made up entirely of saints. They're not easy to come by.
brotherofnalts, Jesus, The King of Kings and Lord of Lords did not come here to establish your religion. You have got to think about what you are saying, seriously! Do you know and understand what your religious leaders have claimed throughout history? Do you have any idea?
Jesus Christ came to earth to reconcile the world unto Himself. And he did indeed establish a Church - a Church that is One, Holy, Catholic (universal) and Apostolic (12 Apostles and their successors) - to carry out that mission.
"The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man (...) he is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power." -Lucius Ferraris, «Prompta Bibliotheca», 1763, Volume VI, 'Papa II', pp.25-29
Let me venture a guess. You don't own either of these books, do you? You've never actually even *seen* either of these books. You don't know the author, the intended audience, the context, or the historical milieu in which they were written. You've pulled them out of an anti-Catholic polemical tract (or, more likely, website) because they confirm your animus against the Church.
All Muslims are certainly not terrorists, and my comment in no way implies that. Don't jump to outrageous conclusions because I reacted proportionately to a Muslim flaming my video and my faith.
i love nalts and i cant believe I'm hearing these words from his brother. lovers of violence?? are you saying all muslims are lovers of violence? why cant you just accept each religion for what it is? and dont associate an entire religion with the wrongs of a group of people. or else i could call all christians racists because of the KKK... use your brain before being such hypocrite mr.nalts
'And the Jews say: The CHRISTians do not follow anything (good) and the CHRISTians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between'
Catholics call it Jesus or the "holy" Eucharist and eat him!. But before they eat him, they have to bow down in front of this gold thing called a monstrance. But before they bow down in front of the monstrance (graven image) with their Jesus (idol) in it.You see, their Jesus can't walk. He has to be borne about by men made by men!. THIS is the Catholic Jesus and he is plainly not the Jesus of the Bible
Jesus said "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." (Jn 6) And "while they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." (Mt 26:26) Do you like the Bible? Good. Because the Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ, wrote it!
If as you say the Catholic Church "wrote" the Bible, they seem to like doing everything oposite to what it tells you, ie worship statues, pray to the dead, call clergy "Father", celebacy etc. What about the old testiment? The Catholic Church was only invented by Constantine in the mid 3rd century when he mingled bible words with ancient babylonian paganism.
There is no such thing as a Roman Catholic Christian. It's a Contradiction in terms.
Jesus Christ used the word "Church" twice in the Gospels. One described the role of the Church (I'll let you look it up), and the other showed the origin of the Church, founded upon St. Peter and his confession of faith. That Church is one (with a single teaching authority, holy (passes upon the doctrine of Christ to it's members to increase their holiness), Apostolic (meaning it has it's origin with the apostles), and Catholic (meaning it's universal throughout the world.
And P.S. : Worship statues? Are you serious? Have you ever met a Catholic who actually worships a piece of plaster? Oh, and BTW - Jesus was a celibate male. Funny think that a priest gives himself totally to God by imitating Jesus...
When my aunt died we could have filled a small dumpster with all the statues and relics etc she had left behind. Walk into an catholic church in Ireland and you will get elderly women bowing and kneeling before statues fumbling rosary beads.
Jesus is the son of God, he came to earth without sin and for a mission to save mankind from eternal danmnation by dying on the cross. Peter the first "pope" was married.
They are using the statue like you might use a photo of a friend - to remember them better. Ask any of those elderly woman whether they are worshipping the statue. They'll ask you if you're crazy!
That Church existed immediately upon the Holy Spirit coming upon the Apostles and Mary at Pentecost. And after Pentecost, the Church existed. That's just Biblical. Read about the early Church in the Acts of the Apostles - and that was BEFORE the New Testament existed. You're not very well educated about the origins of the Church or theology, are you? Do you just read the websites that agree with your polemics? Try reading the Fathers of the Church.
Jesus is present in many ways in the world, through the Holy Spirit. But Jesus certainly did not say that the "Church" is where two or more are gathered. He only used the word Church in two different contexts. And the Church was where Peter and the Apostles were gathered. Read Acts. Then read the Church Fathers. But don't use tired polemics to obscure the shallow nature of your historical and theological knowledge.
What about facing God for judgement and he asking you why you idolized Mary? [I'm sorry to be dogmatic but this is what the bible says] Jesus is the way, the truth and the life -- only by his death, and God's grace, are we saved. [Sorry if any of the sources are taken out of contexts or lack scholarly substance].
It's hard to believe an apology sincere when it admits to a "lack of scholarly substance." Why do you spam my video's comments when all you seem to know are "polemical talking points"? I don't mind engaging in theological dialogue, but you seem content to be a "hit and run" anti-Catholic.
I've obviously gone about this in the wrong way then. Neither was it meant to be an apology or polemical; bur rather an inquest into your beliefs after seeing some previously questioned on the page. In light of this, would it be possible to engage in theological dialogue perhaps in another setting, as this is far from ideal.
The Catholic Church doesn't need modernizing, it needs to be doctrinally, theologically, soteriologically, ecumenically and clerically reformed, and the whole infallible/divine pope idea needs to go. Is it possible to imagine Jesus at a papal mass in St Peter's, Rome?
In fact, Jesus *was* there on the Altar under the species of bread and wine. The Holy Father responded to His command to "do this in memory of Me" and His promise that "this is My Body."
And where does this whole idea of Purgatory and 'Mary, the Mother of God' 'the perpetual virgin' come from? Again man-made; Pope Gregory introduced the idea to worship the virgin Mary, not to mention Jesus's brothers and sisters in the bible; Matthew 12:46-50 and the book of Jude and James etc
I understand your perspective; but even if Mary is the mother of God why do you ask her to intercede for her when the bible says Jesus is the only mediator.
Mary = Human Mother of Jesus
Where is the evidence for her divinity in scripture?
Saying that Mary is the "Mother of God" does not mean that she is divine. "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." (Lk 1:28) and "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb." (Lk 1:42) instruct us about her special status.
P.S. There have been 16 Pope Gregories. The first was in 590 A.D. Mary was given the title "Mother of God" by the Council of Ephesus in 341 A.D. The title was given to emphasize that Jesus was not just Christ, but GOD. It's a Christological title.
I apologies for this, it is what I meant by lack of scholarly substance; i couldn't remember which pope Gregory it was. However it still shows man-made roots of the title; and perhaps the man-made roots of subsequent worship of Mary.
Worship (Greek "latria") is not the same as veneration (Greek "doulia"). Mary is not worshipped. She is venerated as someone specifically chosen by the Father, and as a model of holiness. I venerate my parents, and I love them. But I don't worship them, because they're not gods.
My misunderstanding then. Although, again, what scriptural basis does the veneration of Mary have; God, hypothetically speaking, could have chosen any human to give birth to Jesus; he is the one has control over that variable. Bang on, Mary may be highly respected, but it doesn't mean you should worship her.
Just a Greek study side note; do you reckon 'doulia' has derivatives from 'doulos' - slave?
Yes, Peter was described as the rock, and yes, Pope Innocent 3rd used the law of inheritance to justify the descendants of Peter being heir's of Papacy - but how does a ['divine'] 'Pope' who isn't even a descendant of Peter come into Papal authority?; by forgeries[Donation of Constantine] & man-made ushering.
This comment is a little too confused to really address. Suffice it to say that the Holy Spirit is the one who has preserved the Office of Peter for 2000 years.
Sorry about the confusion. I would debate otherwise that the Holy Spirit has maintained it; as said above, much of the Papacy in history has moved into that position by Cardinal choice. Though i do recognize the ones who did 'inherit' the position.
Amen. If people are truly born of the spirit within the Catholic Church, that is, spiritually born again then I'm massively wrong in commenting on it's doctrine. But 'hail Mary's', confessions etc are not, as your passage in it's wider context denotes; (John 5) Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit."
Jesus is the only mediator. He may have given the Apostles authority - but that doesn't mean these 'holy father' have been given the authority; there just as much human as what i am and you are. 'Every one falls short of the glory of God.'
9.30 And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the CHRISTians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
In addition, giving another the authority to forgive sins is taking away from the glory of God; and what Jesus did on the cross. His death forgave all our sins both in the past and in the future; all we have to do is ask for HIS forgiveness. The apostles told people to ask Jesus for forgiveness, and acknowledge his actions; they weren't the ones who forgave the sins, Jesus did.
one who served his disciples at a table and required that 'the highest shall be the servant of all' can hardly have desired aristocratic or even monarchical structures for his community of disciples.' -- The Catholic Church, by Hans Kung (A catholic).
Hans Kung is not allowed to teach Catholic theology because of his dissident views. And one of the titles of the Holy Father is "Servant of the Servant of God." If you ever met Pope Benedict XVI, you would find that he embodies that title.
I can see why he's not allowed to teach Catholic theology in regards to his 'dissident views'. At least his claims are coming from within; he himself being part of the Catholic Church all his life - a good position to have an opinion about it. The Pope may have that title; but i don't see the synthesis of action and title.
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jesus I love you amen
angelsandleadership 4 months ago
Amen I am love with the holy spirit too yes we can change the world with love not we hate the children are the future of these country because god will always be in control faith and leadeship like jesus christ he died For I died for him ame
angelsandleadership 4 months ago
I'm personally fascinated with the Catholic Church--I find the cathedrals and the music the most beautiful pieces of art man has created--and the liturgy very powerful. But I don't understand how the many atrocities committed by the church for centuries can be so easily dismissed, and that the CC can claim they are still the Rock of Christ. God withdrew his Spirit from its leaders long ago, and even if they are reformed today, they lost many plain & simple truths relevant to the early church.
Briavel1 10 months ago
Here's a question.... WHY ARE PEOPLE CLAPPING DURING MASS!!!! GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! just one more small step towards sacrelige if you ask me >:(
dcrippen2000 1 year ago
IDOLATERS!
reginaDexant 1 year ago
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A typical accusation made by someone who gets their theological education from the Internet rather than the living tradition of Christ that has been preserved for 2000 years in the Catholic Church.
And not to exclude you, my friend, here's a response you can understand: YOU DUMB!
BrotherofNalts 1 year ago 8
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The Reformationists think Catholics are actually worshipping statues and crucifixes when we kneel down in front of them. Neither do they understand the difference between Veneration or Adoration. This combination cannot fail to lead them to make accusations of idolatory, Once you understand what they lack in terms of knowledge, it becomes easier to understand their opinions.
Cathain78 1 year ago
@reginaDexant STFU I know what I am talking about. I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic Institution, educated by the Benedictans. I get my information from what I was taught, what I participated in, and the abuse I suffered especially in the confessional. You are the Pseudo-Christ institution. Your Tradition will lead you straight to hell-no purgatory-no plenary indulgences. You better use your common sense and read the Bible, the Word of God.
reginaDexant 1 year ago
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If you were really educated in a Catholic institution, then why are you making such blatantly false claims which are rooted entirely in the calumnies of the Reformationists? Do you even understand the theology behind Indulgences?
As for using your common sense and read the Bible - you do realise that everyone interprets it differently and ends up with countless different denominations, all contradicting this and that. How can truth come of that?
Sola Scriptura is unscriptural.
Cathain78 1 year ago
@Cathain78 I do understand the practicality of indulgences-the Pope sells them to make money. You have no theology-do you know what that word means? You study pseudo or false gods. How about this from the Word of the Most High God-It is appointed to man once to die and then the judgment. Hebrews 9:27 Ooops..your mom or wife ain't gonna pray your burning a** our of hell, even if they go to Mass every day and buy a dedication card or say prayers on a silver Rosary. You better look for TRUTH.
reginaDexant 1 year ago
my wish is to be an altar server in the Vatican church when i grow a little older
...the big problem is that i'm a girl.
joeyhyyeung 1 year ago
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Wait until you are even older, and become a nun ;-)
Cathain78 1 year ago
May God Bless His Church and His people!! Especially His Priest and Faithful!
janettehanzelka 2 years ago 2
Its simply the acoustics and the video quality.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Great question!
BrotherofNalts 2 years ago
@BrotherofNalts its phenomenal in person, the choir. its just that handheld video recorders cant capture the clairty of the notes. ive been there in person, and i expected it to be triumphant or glorious but the best word for the liturgy of st peters is just plain angelic.
PoisontheHoney 1 year ago
I wonder how long it took the priests to process up there. My mass could probably finish. At my archdiocese,which is not very big as compared to others, took at least 30 minutes to get all the priest and deacons up there. There were like 80 total lol
sk8emo 2 years ago
brother of nalts, how do you know so much about the catholic church? i have gone to catholic schools my whole life including college. i thought i knew a lot untill now...
yourmomwazgreat 2 years ago
You have to know these things when you're a priest. ;))
Happy Easter!
BrotherofNalts 2 years ago 2
easter2009
starbabe58 2 years ago
i want to wish everyone a happy easter
starbabe58 2 years ago
CKS: IRRESPECTFUL IS NOT A WORD!!!!
xxpurplegoddessxx 2 years ago
I hate clapping and talking in church...its deeply irrespectfull!
cks125 3 years ago
Yeah, but compare this some other churches.
APuzzledMind 2 years ago
can I ask a question?
Why did the pope as bishop of rome, celebrate this chrism mass in St. Peter? Why not in Basilica Laterano, the cathedral of Rome? because usually, bishop celebrate the chrism mass in their cathedral..
paubak4 3 years ago
Good question! The pope is out of the law. As funny as its sounds: Saint peters is his house-chapel. He is the sucsessor of peter, so he hold mess over this holy tomb. He does this for the whole world first as POPE. It is not a mess from the bishop of rome.
I hope you understood, english is not my motherlanguage.
fabseitz 2 years ago
You're confused.... U got one thing right by paying attention to Paul... U need to read his scriptures since he delt with the gentiles... Umm but how are you going to make it to zion unless you follow Israel(those who Ehyeh placed the covenent with???) There's a reason why the world wanted us sleep for so long but now we're awake... U can't deny this force that we have for we have the Favor of Ehyeh...
Shalom
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
My brother, you continue to avoid any discussion about Christ, the Apostles, the Church and the Eucharist. We are going nowhere. You have fallen into some Zionist heresy and you are picking and choosing what you want to believe. Jesus Christ IS the covenant - sealed not with the blood of animals but with the Blood of the Father's only Son. But it comes down to this: If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Colossians 2:8 (King James Version)
8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more. And Paul chastised the people of Corinth for accepting a Gospel other than the one Paul preached (2 Cor 11). So what did Paul preach? Well, you can find that in 1 Cor 11:23. And that's what is going on in this video, my friend. It's the religious rite that Paul preached. It's the Passover Feast of the Lamb of God instituted by Christ at the Last Supper. What are you doing to respond to the command of Jesus to "do this in memory of Me"? Lk 22:19
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Look homie... lol ISRAEL ARE THE CHOSEN
IF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNIN THE CHURCH ARE NOT ISRAEL THEN THEY ARE GENTILES...
The Pope doesnt' fit any any of the prophecy nor do you ... lol u can enter in to the kingdom but you must follow us. Israel
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
The "prophecies" to which you are referring have already been fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Son of David. The only Salvation is through Christ. Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you shall have no life within you (John 6:54). If you deny Christ, He will deny you before His father. (1 John 2:23). You are denying Christ by denying that He Himself founded a Church and gave authority to His Apostles.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
LOL, this too funny... Yeah, Deuteronomy 28:68 already happened and that was slavery! lol That prophecy is for Israel!
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
Jesus founded a Church (Mt 16:18). And He appointed Twelve Apostles with kingship (Lk 22:29) and told them that they will sit on thrones (Lk 22:30) administering the affairs of the twelve tribes of Israel (Lk 22:30). He charged them with a Great Commission to make disciples of all nations (Mt 28:16). So Salvation comes *from* the Jews because Christ was Jewish, but is *by* incorporation into the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ - which has nothing to do with earthly bloodlines.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
lmao... no homie u are denyin Christ by denying Israel.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
Jesus Christ is the Word made Flesh. He is the fulfillment of the Torah (the Word) and the Temple (his Body). He is the fulfillment of all of the prophecies made to Abraham and his descendants. There is no Salvation outside of Jesus Christ.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
I bet you celebrate christmas and easter and birthdays?? If u do u need to stop. and worshippin on sundays. The sabbath is saturday so keep that day holy. psalm138:6 jeremiah10:1-4
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
Since the first century, when Christ came, all worship has been directed through Him to the Father. That is what was revealed. We celebrate his birth, death, resurrection and ascension, because those are the events that led to our salvation. And we meet on the Lord's day, which was the day He rose.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
No,charismaticchosen1 didn't choose her EHYEH choose her!!!
Read Deuteronomy 27:1,Deut.28:15,Deut. 28:68 so u can get a clear understanding on this... The pope is satanic man and it's a shame that all you have to hold onto is a lie... Christ wasn't even a virgin birth for if He was virgin birth then how can He be of the son of David??? The immaculate conception is pure satanic. So i guess if it wasn't for Mary then there wouldn't be any Christ. Sounds like Semramis to me... LOL
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
Oh, I get it now. You're running the "church of you." All of your Biblical interpretation is based on your own opinion or some nutty websites you're reading. Tell me something, chief, are you fluent in Hebrew and Greek? Have you read any of the Church fathers (e.g. Irenaeus, Cyprian, Augustine)? Because if you don't read the Bible in the original languages, and if you don't know what people were writing about the Bible in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. centuries, then you are flying BLIND.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
are you fluent in Hebrew???? Aramaic???? Greek???? I see you are fluent in PAGAN TRADITIONS!
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
I don't know any Aramaic except for the few words that Jesus used in Scripture. Hebrew and Greek, yes. And the Mass is hardly a pagan tradition since it is celebrated according to the command of Jesus Christ to "do this in memory of Me."
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
brother , you provide no scripture to back up what you are saying??? Christ founded the catholic church??? show me that scripture??? Church fathers irenaeus?cyprian?augustine?? That shows u dont listen to scripture Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
And These brothers u named are gentiles, they have no right to come and add scripture to the word, God, only dealt with israel concerning scripture,
dont be ignorant
onIy1Zro 3 years ago
Jesus founded a Church (Mt 16:18). And He appointed the Twelve Apostles with kingship (Lk 22:29) and told them that they will sit on thrones (Lk 22:30) administering the affairs of the twelve tribes of Israel (Lk 22:30). He charged them with a Great Commission to make disciples of all nations (Mt 28:16). Therefore the Church is ONE (Jn 10:16), HOLY (founded by Christ) APOSTOLIC and CATHOLIC (which means "universal").
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Christ said he will build a church, he never said the catholic church, as a matter of fact show me where in the bible christ told us to have a pope, and matthew 28:18 is never said to give permission for people to write scripture, it says teach so i dont see where your going with that one
As a matter i want you to answer me this question, is the catholic church the largest religion or church on earth?
onIy1Zro 3 years ago
Jesus founded the Church on Peter. And there has been an unbroken chain of Successors to St. Peter as teh Bishop of Rome. In fact, Peter is buried under the altar at St. Peter's Basilica. He was killed by Nero, and buried on the Vatican Hill in 64 A.D. Do you think Christ wanted His Church to cease to exist after the death of the last apostle? I don't think so. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail. And that means ever.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
so, what exactly makes you think he was talking about the catholic church
onIy1Zro 3 years ago
There is only one Church that existed at the time of Christ and still exists today. Only one. So there is only one against whom the "gates of hell" have not prevailed. I'm just connecting the dots and doing the math. Arius had a church, as did Nestorius and Pelagius. Gates of hell prevailed. And look at the Church of England. It cut itself off of the vine, and now the gates of hell are prevailing. History is littered with the dried branches of those who cut themselves off of the vine.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
brother, the catholic church wasnt even in existence during the time of christ, at all, where do you get this information from, and look at the practices the roman church does, peganism, hell has broken through, catholic church isnt the church christ spoke of
onIy1Zro 3 years ago
What Bible are you using?? There are 109 references to the "Church" or "churches" in the New Testament. The word is "ecclesia" in Greek. Christ founded the Church, and the Church wrote the Bible. Only one Church existed at the time of Christ, and only one Church that existed at that time of Christ still exists. Study some history before you start calling something satanic. And stop reading all of those nutty conspiracy websites.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Christianity is the largest religion in the world. Until about the year 1000 there was only ONE Christian Church in the whole world - the one that Christ founded. Then there was a split with the East, and there were basically two: Orthodox and Roman Catholic. Since the Protestant Reformation, there are many Christian "communities," since anybody can say they have a "church." Only one can trace itself back to Jesus through Peter. It's called "catholic" because it is universal.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
imm gonna leave it at this, you admitted that christianity is the largest religion correct, now this is from christs words Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Keep going with the majority brother,
Im going to leave it at that...shalom
onIy1Zro 3 years ago
Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian or a Catholic will be saved. Membership doesn't mean anything if you aren't living according to God's commands. Glad we agree on something! Shalom!
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Do you even know what the Immaculate Conception is? I bet you think it means that Jesus was conceived without Mary having intercourse. Well, not what it is. That's the "incarnation" or the "virgin birth." And it's Biblical. (Lk 1:34 and the first chapter of Matthew) And Mary cooperated in our Salvation. Without Christ there would be no Mary. And Christ chose her. Mary's obedience to God reversed Eve's disobedience. She became the "new Eve," and Christ is the "new Adam" (1 Cor. 15:45).
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Salvation means dominion and rulership... Salvation is of the jews aka Israel... Israel was set up to rule this world clown...
Deuteronomy 7:6 (King James Version) 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
The Pople isn't of Israel... Read Genesis 49 and you will see Jacob breaking prophecy down for his 12 CHILDREN!!!
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
And who are the Twelve Apostles? Well, my friend, they are the ones JUDGING the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Mt. 19:28.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
yes the twelve disciples are the ones judging with the Savior. I agree. But he never divorved his people. Salvation is for Israel. The gentiles know of him thru us.
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
There is no doubt that God revealed His saving plan for Salvation through the Jewish people. But Christ wants all to be one, as He and the Father are one (Jn 17:24), and He wants all to be saved (1 Tim 2:4)
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Christ gave his Twelve Apostles "authority" (Mt. 28:16). And they passed it down in an unbroken line of succession through the laying on of hands (Acts 6:6).
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
The Twelve Tribes were translated by Christ into the Twelve Apostles as he desired to save everyone, not just those blood descendants of Abraham?????
Show me scripture to back this up...
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
Dang, I can't be doing all of the work for you. If you don't know the entire Bible, then that's your fault. Search for "twelve" in the New Testament of an online Bible. One text that's pretty basic is Mat. 19:28, but the Bible has to be read as a whole. You can't pick and choose your verses to make an argument. Anything can mean anything out of context.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
We not readin the truth from any websites but from our Holy Books the Bible. read Isaiah 28:10. read the entire book(which i have) and gather here a little there a little and build it together. wisdom can not enter into a proud heart.Isaiah29:13 you r taught by the precept of men, not godly men. heathens.
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
You don't have any true understanding of biblical text that's why you're lost. You're being spoiled with pholosaphey and vain deciete like Paul said... Listen about the foolish remark about graven images of family in my house... Well, Einstein they're not in heaven so that scripture x's what ever the heck you were trying to say.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
The Catholic church is very wicked. it breaks the first commandment thou shalt not have no other Gods before me. and the second thou shalt not bow down or make unto thee ANY graven image and thats all they do. I know. I was catholic until i came to the truth. The real gospel.Deut 28:68 when did those fakers khazars went somewhere on a ship?? never. they not poor. they not oppressed. revelations 3:9
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
There is one God in Catholicism, and He has revealed Himself to us as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And Catholics don't "bow down to any graven images." The Truth is Jesus Christ, and He will set you free. But He founded the Catholic Church to conserve His teachings. Who founded your church? You? You are "charismaticchosen1." Well, who chose you? Did you choose yourself?
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Your logic or reasoning is completly absurd based on pagan traditions. And for your information I am learning hebrew and translating the original texts for myself. Todays hebrew is a yiddish version not the version written in the original texts. I did not choose myself. He loved me first and choose me. You should not be so proud and boasting. After pride comes fall. We are simply correcting you. So do not scorn correction it is done in a spirit of love. We should call no man father.
charismaticChosen1 3 years ago
graven - cut into a desired shape; "graven images"; "sculptured representations
The true church lies with the 12 Tribes of Israel... Israel are the chosen. I don't see how Israel is the vatican. (lol) Use common sense.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
I hope you don't have any photographs of your family in your house, because those would be graven images, too. The Twelve Tribes were translated by Christ into the Twelve Apostles as he desired to save everyone, not just those blood descendants of Abraham. Salvation came through the Jews, but it is not limited to them. You're using a skewed, personal interpretation of Biblical texts to create your own reality.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Catholisism isn't the true church... It's a mask for Satan... Look at all the graven images yall got up in the church man...lol
Rome is where Satan dwells. The bible says call no man father on earth so who do yall call the pope?
I stand for something playa and it's called truth. How can the Catholics be the way and there is so much wickedness in the world. All the money and power that they have why haven't they shown the 12 Tribes of Israel yet????
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
The Church was founded by Christ, and his first leader was named Simon Bar-Jonah. Jesus named him Peter (Mt 16:18) and told him that the "gates of Hell would not prevail against the Church." Peter journeyed to Rome, and was killed in Nero's circus in 64 AD. He was then buried on the Vatican Hill, and you can visit his tomb, which has been archeologically verified. Google "scavi." If you say that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church, you have made Jesus Christ a liar.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
I already addressed the "father" issue above. As far as the "graven image" issue, that would be a heresy called "iconclasm." You can google that, also. It has come up many times in the history of the Church. The Muslims are pretty big on it.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Yes, Isis & Horus originate from Babylon they're the same... If you read the bible with clear understanding then you would be able to see this... lol
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
And if you're drawing connections between Babylonian gods and Jesus Christ and His Church through coincidences in artistic representations or allegorical symbolism, then, well, you're a little nutty. I'm sorry. Those who believe in nothing are destined to believe in anything. BTW, did you know the Catholic Church teaches that Winnie the Pooh is God?
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Did u delete my last comment??? WoW...
Google Semramis, Nimrod, & Tammuz and you will see that the mother mary is "Semramis" and the child is "Tammuz"... Babylon is in full effect inside the Vatican... The Vatican is tha home of Satan...
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
Sorry about that. I must have done it by accident. I didn't intend to hide your bizarre "Babylonian" theory. What I would tell you, "playa," is not to believe every nutty theory you read on the internet. Doing so makes you sound nutty. I hope you don't find a page that declares that "Winnie the Pooh is God," because you might believe that, too. The truth of Christ will set you free, but your Semramis, Nimrod, Tammuz (might as well throw in Horus, Isis and Seb) theory is just, well, nutty.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
LOL, the catholic church is no different from the satanic religion of the Babylonian Empire.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
You wouldn't know about Jesus if the Catholic Church hadn't written about Him in the Bible. Read the Acts of the Apostles. The Church was before the Bible. It existed from the time Jesus gave the Apostles authority, and it still exists by virtue of the Successors to those Apostles in an unbroken chain from the time of Christ. I'm sorry that someone has polluted your mind with hatred and lies. There is only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Nah i think you're the one missing the pieces to the puzzle...
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
The Catholic Church has all of the pieces. And Christ Himself in the Eucharist. John 6.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Oh, so I guess what you mean to say is that Paul's letter to the Corinthians is not the word of God. If it's God's word, then it's all equal. Let's be clear here.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Who was stronger? Christ or Paul?
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
What you have, my friend, are conflicting Biblical passages. Is one right and one wrong? Or is there something "non-literal" going on? Is there something that you might be missing?
Don't use the Bible as a sword.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
Ehyeh says call no man father on earth..
Matthew 23:9 (King James Version) 9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
1 Cor. 4:1415
So is St. Paul a liar? Why does he say he is "father"?
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
This is the UN Holy Vatican
BenjaminTribe000 3 years ago
It all reminds me of a great shopping mall:
"What is it-a for-a you come-a to papa Giuseppi's shop-a?" '
myview28 3 years ago
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BrotherofNalts 3 years ago
funny :-))
pipeup1 3 years ago
Only an institution founded by Christ can endure until the end of time. Other Christian communities come and go, depending upon the personal charism of their founder. The Cathoic Church is Christ's Church. It preaches Him as Savior, it's Biblical, and it is the only Church to which Christ promised that "the gates of hell will not prevail against it." After 2000 years, even the devil knows it's not going away.
elcheef 3 years ago 2
I'm catholic and thx for sharing this vid!I love it.God bless
flowerpower2696 3 years ago
Why not an applouse? It is a circus after all!
vonbiron 3 years ago
Do I hear applause at the end? :)
JelenaSRB87 3 years ago
Very nice video. Nice to look at it especially now that we are in Holy Week. Thanks for posting.
chrisman737 3 years ago 5
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Now Messiah have online conection with ELOHIM!!(Elohim is name of the God to all universe)Time is to turn in one religion!!
OfraHaza1957 4 years ago
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Unfortunately, the Pope and the (catholic) church are the most distant institutions from the message of Jesus. The Pope is a cold-hearted, mean, avid and avar man, who's closer to being a Politician than a man of Jesus. Shame. Lorenzo
Lrztrbc 4 years ago
arev you sure? i dont believe you. the catholic church IS the ONLY church with direct linage to apostolic times! this is not a shame, its something we should be proud of! wanna be converted?
vibal101 3 years ago
what do yo think of this brother?
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=od2A-j0b9bw
christian326 4 years ago
I'll watch it when I have time, and comment. But I would ask you to think for yourself. You're repeating the polemical attacks of other people as your own. Have you researched any of the things you're saying? There the same tired polemics that are consistently used by anti-Catholics. Read Keatings "Catholicism and Fundamentalism" to get an understanding of the historical basis of your polemics.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
another thing brotherof nalts, in the gospel of john jesus says that we must be born again. if you are not born again, then how can one understand heavenly things when one can't even understand earthly things. when you are born again, you become a child of god. it's a new life in christ. have you ever seen the movie the gospel of john? are you a catholic priest? 8/
christian326 4 years ago
You were born again when you were placed in the waters and baptized in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And you gradually came into an understanding of that. But don't confuse the Holy Spirit with an "emotion" or a "feeling." The Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. And the truth will set you free. And Christ is the way, the truth and the life.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
i am very tired right now and I'm quick to comment...I will get back to you tomorrow after some sleep...maybe we can take this conversation somewhere else?? by the way, my name is Christian :)
christian326 4 years ago
Thanks, Christian. I'm on the other side of the world, and it's morning here. Please send me a YT message, and perhaps we can take this to email rather than filling up my comments.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
you know what amazes me? Jesus sat there at a table and broke bread and drank wine with His desciples. and look what we have now, we have a manufactured piece of wafer that people stand in line to have a man hold it in your face and say the body of Christ. do you actually think that what Jesus wants? r u serious? what doing what He actually did? breaking bread and drinking wine in remembrance of me? a gathering of friends and family around a table and talking about Jesus and the Gospels?
christian326 4 years ago
breaking bread on the true sabbath! but the vatican changed that too! lol I give up Lord.. why is it that people believe more in what they see than in The Word of God?
christian326 4 years ago
There was no "Vatican" when Christians started gathering on the the first day of the week - the day of the Resurrection. And it was meant to commemorate the Resurrection, and draw a connection between the first day of Creation ("let there be light") and the Creator ("I am the light of the world").
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
wow, now you are getting a little too weird! let's face it, you believe more in your man-made religion than you do in The WOrd of God! and please, Holy Spirit in the catholic church?? went there for 12 years, have never even had once had one ounce of spiritual movement! seriously brother, watch the video!
christian326 4 years ago
The Catholic Church is not a "man-made religion." It was founded by Christ on Peter and the other eleven. And it existed *before* the New Testament. Read the Acts of the Apostles. The "Church" was active, and St. Luke (inspired by the Holy Spirit) wrote Acts to describe the activity of the Church.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
okay, okay! lets say Jesus came to earth to establish a 'physical' church, ya know with pews an altars and lets not forget confessionals..now can you honestly say that there are no flaws in your religion of the centuries? if you say yes, then you are saying the Jesus is not perfect in all of His Glorious ways! Think about my question for awhile..and what about my factual statements from previous popes, no comment?
christian326 4 years ago
I've already admitted that the Church is made up of sinful men. But the Church has never erred when it has declared on faith and morals. Have there been disputes? Yes. There were disputes about the nature of the Divinity of Jesus, and the Council of Nicea (guided by the Holy Spirit) settled it. You might as well quote Arius for the proposition that Jesus was not God, and say the the Church said it.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
You are hella lame. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about Theologically and are just spouting evangelical propaganda.
jayboi83 3 years ago
if you knew Jesus and The Living God, you would know that this is pure blasphemy...
christian326 4 years ago
Not only do I know Jesus Christ, the Living God, but I follow His commandment each day - to make Him present on the Altar. And I actually *eat His body and drink His blood* as He Himself told me to (John 6) so that I might have eternal life.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Revelation 17 & 18
christian326 4 years ago
I often wonder what possesses people to take Bible verses out of context and direct them disparagingly toward other people. Matthew 16:18. Jesus founded my Church. And its current leadership can be traced back, through the laying on of hands (Acts 6:6), to the Apostles. Who founded your community? Oh, and you're welcome for the New Testament. My Church wrote it.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
nalts, it's funny how catholics claim to have written the bible, I always thought it was The Word of God. if you believe that those 2 verses claim to tell the Truth of what the catholic religion is, then I feel sorry for you. but that's what they claim and that's what they boast! in my opinion, your religion worships the lord of bondage and confusion and corruption! They do not worship The Living God of Salvation.
christian326 4 years ago
The Bible was written by men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. God did not inscribe it on tablets like the Ten Commandments. Don't feel sorry for me; feel sorry for people who reject the One Church that Jesus Christ founded on St. Peter - a Church that has endured for 2000 years and suffered much harsher persecution than you have the ability to inflict.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
I was baptized, raised and brainwashed into that cult. I know what it is!! Oh believe me, catholicism will endure till the end of time... who do you think is running the show? it certainly isn't The Word of God, but instead men who are not Born Again. Have you ever heard an ex-catholic priests testimony about how he left your church and accepted Jesus has his Saviour?
christian326 4 years ago
Only an institution founded by Christ can endure until the end of time. Other Christian communities come and go, depending upon the personal charism of their founder. The Cathoic Church is Christ's Church. It preaches Him as Savior, it's Biblical, and it's made up of sinners. I'm happy you found a community that's made up entirely of saints. They're not easy to come by.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
brotherofnalts, Jesus, The King of Kings and Lord of Lords did not come here to establish your religion. You have got to think about what you are saying, seriously! Do you know and understand what your religious leaders have claimed throughout history? Do you have any idea?
christian326 4 years ago
Jesus Christ came to earth to reconcile the world unto Himself. And he did indeed establish a Church - a Church that is One, Holy, Catholic (universal) and Apostolic (12 Apostles and their successors) - to carry out that mission.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
"The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man (...) he is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power." -Lucius Ferraris, «Prompta Bibliotheca», 1763, Volume VI, 'Papa II', pp.25-29
christian326 4 years ago
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July 1895.
christian326 4 years ago
Let me venture a guess. You don't own either of these books, do you? You've never actually even *seen* either of these books. You don't know the author, the intended audience, the context, or the historical milieu in which they were written. You've pulled them out of an anti-Catholic polemical tract (or, more likely, website) because they confirm your animus against the Church.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
All Muslims are certainly not terrorists, and my comment in no way implies that. Don't jump to outrageous conclusions because I reacted proportionately to a Muslim flaming my video and my faith.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
i love nalts and i cant believe I'm hearing these words from his brother. lovers of violence?? are you saying all muslims are lovers of violence? why cant you just accept each religion for what it is? and dont associate an entire religion with the wrongs of a group of people. or else i could call all christians racists because of the KKK... use your brain before being such hypocrite mr.nalts
alat24 4 years ago
'And the Jews say: The CHRISTians do not follow anything (good) and the CHRISTians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between'
quran: Cow verse Chapt 2
salimnina 4 years ago
So I'll take parts of both of their religions, and invent a new one. Yeah, right. Allah will indeed judge lovers of violence.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
Catholics call it Jesus or the "holy" Eucharist and eat him!. But before they eat him, they have to bow down in front of this gold thing called a monstrance. But before they bow down in front of the monstrance (graven image) with their Jesus (idol) in it.You see, their Jesus can't walk. He has to be borne about by men made by men!. THIS is the Catholic Jesus and he is plainly not the Jesus of the Bible
StatueSmasher 4 years ago
Jesus said "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." (Jn 6) And "while they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." (Mt 26:26) Do you like the Bible? Good. Because the Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ, wrote it!
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
If as you say the Catholic Church "wrote" the Bible, they seem to like doing everything oposite to what it tells you, ie worship statues, pray to the dead, call clergy "Father", celebacy etc. What about the old testiment? The Catholic Church was only invented by Constantine in the mid 3rd century when he mingled bible words with ancient babylonian paganism.
There is no such thing as a Roman Catholic Christian. It's a Contradiction in terms.
StatueSmasher 4 years ago
Jesus Christ used the word "Church" twice in the Gospels. One described the role of the Church (I'll let you look it up), and the other showed the origin of the Church, founded upon St. Peter and his confession of faith. That Church is one (with a single teaching authority, holy (passes upon the doctrine of Christ to it's members to increase their holiness), Apostolic (meaning it has it's origin with the apostles), and Catholic (meaning it's universal throughout the world.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
And P.S. : Worship statues? Are you serious? Have you ever met a Catholic who actually worships a piece of plaster? Oh, and BTW - Jesus was a celibate male. Funny think that a priest gives himself totally to God by imitating Jesus...
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
When my aunt died we could have filled a small dumpster with all the statues and relics etc she had left behind. Walk into an catholic church in Ireland and you will get elderly women bowing and kneeling before statues fumbling rosary beads.
Jesus is the son of God, he came to earth without sin and for a mission to save mankind from eternal danmnation by dying on the cross. Peter the first "pope" was married.
StatueSmasher 4 years ago
They are using the statue like you might use a photo of a friend - to remember them better. Ask any of those elderly woman whether they are worshipping the statue. They'll ask you if you're crazy!
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
That Church existed immediately upon the Holy Spirit coming upon the Apostles and Mary at Pentecost. And after Pentecost, the Church existed. That's just Biblical. Read about the early Church in the Acts of the Apostles - and that was BEFORE the New Testament existed. You're not very well educated about the origins of the Church or theology, are you? Do you just read the websites that agree with your polemics? Try reading the Fathers of the Church.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
A "Church" can consist of two or more people.
Jesus said in Matthew 18vs2 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them"
StatueSmasher 4 years ago
Jesus is present in many ways in the world, through the Holy Spirit. But Jesus certainly did not say that the "Church" is where two or more are gathered. He only used the word Church in two different contexts. And the Church was where Peter and the Apostles were gathered. Read Acts. Then read the Church Fathers. But don't use tired polemics to obscure the shallow nature of your historical and theological knowledge.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
What about facing God for judgement and he asking you why you idolized Mary? [I'm sorry to be dogmatic but this is what the bible says] Jesus is the way, the truth and the life -- only by his death, and God's grace, are we saved. [Sorry if any of the sources are taken out of contexts or lack scholarly substance].
timtoase 4 years ago
Mary is venerated, not idolized. And we are saved by our participation in the Paschal Mystery, just as Mary was.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
It's hard to believe an apology sincere when it admits to a "lack of scholarly substance." Why do you spam my video's comments when all you seem to know are "polemical talking points"? I don't mind engaging in theological dialogue, but you seem content to be a "hit and run" anti-Catholic.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
I've obviously gone about this in the wrong way then. Neither was it meant to be an apology or polemical; bur rather an inquest into your beliefs after seeing some previously questioned on the page. In light of this, would it be possible to engage in theological dialogue perhaps in another setting, as this is far from ideal.
timtoase 4 years ago
LOVE TO! Send me a message through YT, and I'll send you my email. In Christ, BON.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
Sweet, shall do.
timtoase 4 years ago
The Catholic Church doesn't need modernizing, it needs to be doctrinally, theologically, soteriologically, ecumenically and clerically reformed, and the whole infallible/divine pope idea needs to go. Is it possible to imagine Jesus at a papal mass in St Peter's, Rome?
timtoase 4 years ago
In fact, Jesus *was* there on the Altar under the species of bread and wine. The Holy Father responded to His command to "do this in memory of Me" and His promise that "this is My Body."
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
And where does this whole idea of Purgatory and 'Mary, the Mother of God' 'the perpetual virgin' come from? Again man-made; Pope Gregory introduced the idea to worship the virgin Mary, not to mention Jesus's brothers and sisters in the bible; Matthew 12:46-50 and the book of Jude and James etc
timtoase 4 years ago
Mary = Mother of Jesus
Jesus = God
ergo
Mary = Mother of God
QED
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
I understand your perspective; but even if Mary is the mother of God why do you ask her to intercede for her when the bible says Jesus is the only mediator.
Mary = Human Mother of Jesus
Where is the evidence for her divinity in scripture?
Your effectively placing a human being above God.
timtoase 4 years ago
Saying that Mary is the "Mother of God" does not mean that she is divine. "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." (Lk 1:28) and "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb." (Lk 1:42) instruct us about her special status.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
P.S. There have been 16 Pope Gregories. The first was in 590 A.D. Mary was given the title "Mother of God" by the Council of Ephesus in 341 A.D. The title was given to emphasize that Jesus was not just Christ, but GOD. It's a Christological title.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
I apologies for this, it is what I meant by lack of scholarly substance; i couldn't remember which pope Gregory it was. However it still shows man-made roots of the title; and perhaps the man-made roots of subsequent worship of Mary.
timtoase 4 years ago
Worship (Greek "latria") is not the same as veneration (Greek "doulia"). Mary is not worshipped. She is venerated as someone specifically chosen by the Father, and as a model of holiness. I venerate my parents, and I love them. But I don't worship them, because they're not gods.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
My misunderstanding then. Although, again, what scriptural basis does the veneration of Mary have; God, hypothetically speaking, could have chosen any human to give birth to Jesus; he is the one has control over that variable. Bang on, Mary may be highly respected, but it doesn't mean you should worship her.
Just a Greek study side note; do you reckon 'doulia' has derivatives from 'doulos' - slave?
timtoase 4 years ago
Yes, Peter was described as the rock, and yes, Pope Innocent 3rd used the law of inheritance to justify the descendants of Peter being heir's of Papacy - but how does a ['divine'] 'Pope' who isn't even a descendant of Peter come into Papal authority?; by forgeries[Donation of Constantine] & man-made ushering.
timtoase 4 years ago
This comment is a little too confused to really address. Suffice it to say that the Holy Spirit is the one who has preserved the Office of Peter for 2000 years.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
Sorry about the confusion. I would debate otherwise that the Holy Spirit has maintained it; as said above, much of the Papacy in history has moved into that position by Cardinal choice. Though i do recognize the ones who did 'inherit' the position.
timtoase 4 years ago
"That which is born of the flesh, is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit, is spirit." (Jn. 3:6)
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
Amen. If people are truly born of the spirit within the Catholic Church, that is, spiritually born again then I'm massively wrong in commenting on it's doctrine. But 'hail Mary's', confessions etc are not, as your passage in it's wider context denotes; (John 5) Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit."
timtoase 4 years ago
The "Hail Mary" is Biblical. The authority of the Apostles to forgive sins is Biblical. Rejecting Biblical truth is unBiblical. :)
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
Jesus is the only mediator. He may have given the Apostles authority - but that doesn't mean these 'holy father' have been given the authority; there just as much human as what i am and you are. 'Every one falls short of the glory of God.'
timtoase 4 years ago
The Immunity Chapter 9
9.30 And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the CHRISTians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
salimnina 4 years ago
In addition, giving another the authority to forgive sins is taking away from the glory of God; and what Jesus did on the cross. His death forgave all our sins both in the past and in the future; all we have to do is ask for HIS forgiveness. The apostles told people to ask Jesus for forgiveness, and acknowledge his actions; they weren't the ones who forgave the sins, Jesus did.
timtoase 4 years ago
one who served his disciples at a table and required that 'the highest shall be the servant of all' can hardly have desired aristocratic or even monarchical structures for his community of disciples.' -- The Catholic Church, by Hans Kung (A catholic).
timtoase 4 years ago
Hans Kung is not allowed to teach Catholic theology because of his dissident views. And one of the titles of the Holy Father is "Servant of the Servant of God." If you ever met Pope Benedict XVI, you would find that he embodies that title.
BrotherofNalts 4 years ago
I can see why he's not allowed to teach Catholic theology in regards to his 'dissident views'. At least his claims are coming from within; he himself being part of the Catholic Church all his life - a good position to have an opinion about it. The Pope may have that title; but i don't see the synthesis of action and title.
timtoase 4 years ago