I don't buy the premise that laws are created with the intention to hurt Blacks. Laws are applied to everyone in the society. If a law disproportionately affects a particular community, could it not be that members of that community disproportionately violate the law? No, it must be abject racism. Sorry, that doesn't wash. Now, that's not to say that those who enforce the law don't inequitably target certain people. That absolutely does happen. But that has nothing to do with static law.
I find your view on the justice system refreshing. I agree that focus on punishment reduces the system to a mechanical process that does not address the individual's offense and the circumstances around that situation. To simply deal out a punishment does not resolve a problem and the offender will likely not simply rehabilitate because they are punished. They will likely continue on with their path and possibly move onto more serious crime.
Additionally, to elaborate on my last point, I believe that arbitrary sentencing can lead to cultivating an increase in severity of criminal behavior, especially if an offender is simply sent to jail to essentially stew for a period amongst other offenders.
Rather than using the threat of punishment alone, I think we must approach offenders on an intellectual level and through rehabilitation, help adjust their perspectives so that they willingly choose a productive lifestyle. Using fear of...
incarceration and the assorted restrictions from having a criminal record does not address the factors leading up to an offense. Also, the restrictions from having a criminal record severely hinder a person's ability to be a productive member of society, which is demanded from them in the first place. We always hear people say to not commit crimes, to be productive members of society, but if a crime is committed, then there is little chance an offender will be able to be a productive member of..
society without much struggle. When faced with a severe uphill battle and a far easier path of returning to crime, it's no secret that many people choose the latter option.
Simply meting out sentences does not address the fundamental cause(s) of criminal behavior.
What is more, once convicted of a felony the person loses a number of civil rights, depending on the state in which he resides (right to vote, right to be a member of a jury, ....).
So, it renders one a partial citizen. Even though ones "debt" to society has supposed been "paid" by serving time. It's the debt that keeps on taking.
@Cimbolic I've been saying this for years. My cousin did five years for sale of drugs. That was eleven years ago. He still can not own or pocess a firearm, can't vote and a whole bunch of other shit. It's crazy. Guys is 36 years old and can't get hired for anything other than working behind a register.
Peace, the shows I am really interested in I miss. I did concur with a lot of what was said, I must listen to the archives then I'll make a better observation. See ya later this week. RespectU
@ CIMBOLIC, I wished to comment more but either something was bad in the connection with the phone line. I could barely hear anyone & what little I did was distorted. I also noticed that TMOT has gone on another guilt complex I guess about folks calling him names. What he fails to realize simply is many blacks will view him this way cause he condemns us but doesn't address the one who placed us in this condition. So it looks like he is an advocate 4 our oppressor, his responsibilty excused
@ CIMBOLIC, What is funny is that Kkilo34 cat I had on the show who believes he has the right 2 use the word Nigger of whom TMOT scolded says he likes TMOT's vids,why ? Cause TMOT doesn't practice the Blame Game when it comes to whites but 24 hours a day he can blame & chastise his own people & of course many whites who enjoy the advantage of being white not having to share wealth or opportunity like TMOT 4 asking blacks 2 settle 4 opportunity offered by scraps they left,always master over blaxs
@ CIMBOLIC,Look @ all the vids he has done in defense of trying to show his position is best even thou he is called names. If you aren't gonna change and people perceive you as this,there is nothing you can say that is going to make them change their mind,those who support you there is no need to convince them
The best is yet to come. You are a great host. Thanks for all of your hard work. I have got to Brenda her props for those guests. I can't take credit for that.
I don't buy the premise that laws are created with the intention to hurt Blacks. Laws are applied to everyone in the society. If a law disproportionately affects a particular community, could it not be that members of that community disproportionately violate the law? No, it must be abject racism. Sorry, that doesn't wash. Now, that's not to say that those who enforce the law don't inequitably target certain people. That absolutely does happen. But that has nothing to do with static law.
hulsey1976 2 months ago
"Punishment is the lowest form of justice.".
I find your view on the justice system refreshing. I agree that focus on punishment reduces the system to a mechanical process that does not address the individual's offense and the circumstances around that situation. To simply deal out a punishment does not resolve a problem and the offender will likely not simply rehabilitate because they are punished. They will likely continue on with their path and possibly move onto more serious crime.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
Additionally, to elaborate on my last point, I believe that arbitrary sentencing can lead to cultivating an increase in severity of criminal behavior, especially if an offender is simply sent to jail to essentially stew for a period amongst other offenders.
Rather than using the threat of punishment alone, I think we must approach offenders on an intellectual level and through rehabilitation, help adjust their perspectives so that they willingly choose a productive lifestyle. Using fear of...
Guiltaur 2 years ago
incarceration and the assorted restrictions from having a criminal record does not address the factors leading up to an offense. Also, the restrictions from having a criminal record severely hinder a person's ability to be a productive member of society, which is demanded from them in the first place. We always hear people say to not commit crimes, to be productive members of society, but if a crime is committed, then there is little chance an offender will be able to be a productive member of..
Guiltaur 2 years ago
society without much struggle. When faced with a severe uphill battle and a far easier path of returning to crime, it's no secret that many people choose the latter option.
Simply meting out sentences does not address the fundamental cause(s) of criminal behavior.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
I agree with you completely, Guiltaur.
What is more, once convicted of a felony the person loses a number of civil rights, depending on the state in which he resides (right to vote, right to be a member of a jury, ....).
So, it renders one a partial citizen. Even though ones "debt" to society has supposed been "paid" by serving time. It's the debt that keeps on taking.
Very discouraging to an individual.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@Cimbolic I've been saying this for years. My cousin did five years for sale of drugs. That was eleven years ago. He still can not own or pocess a firearm, can't vote and a whole bunch of other shit. It's crazy. Guys is 36 years old and can't get hired for anything other than working behind a register.
cursivedragon 1 year ago
Really good summary of the issues, Cimbolic. 5/5 and fav'd, hoping that folks viewing my Favorites will see it.
brainouty 2 years ago
Thank you, prescious. You are the best.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
Peace, the shows I am really interested in I miss. I did concur with a lot of what was said, I must listen to the archives then I'll make a better observation. See ya later this week. RespectU
angelsnupnup7reborn 2 years ago
It was great you called in. You called in at the perfect time, while we were discussing the mentality of assimilation.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@ CIMBOLIC, I wished to comment more but either something was bad in the connection with the phone line. I could barely hear anyone & what little I did was distorted. I also noticed that TMOT has gone on another guilt complex I guess about folks calling him names. What he fails to realize simply is many blacks will view him this way cause he condemns us but doesn't address the one who placed us in this condition. So it looks like he is an advocate 4 our oppressor, his responsibilty excused
angelsnupnup7reborn 2 years ago
@ Angel,
My signal broke-up near the end of the show, too.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@ CIMBOLIC, What is funny is that Kkilo34 cat I had on the show who believes he has the right 2 use the word Nigger of whom TMOT scolded says he likes TMOT's vids,why ? Cause TMOT doesn't practice the Blame Game when it comes to whites but 24 hours a day he can blame & chastise his own people & of course many whites who enjoy the advantage of being white not having to share wealth or opportunity like TMOT 4 asking blacks 2 settle 4 opportunity offered by scraps they left,always master over blaxs
angelsnupnup7reborn 2 years ago
@ Angel,
I don' think that's what he's doing, Angel.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@ CIMBOLIC,Look @ all the vids he has done in defense of trying to show his position is best even thou he is called names. If you aren't gonna change and people perceive you as this,there is nothing you can say that is going to make them change their mind,those who support you there is no need to convince them
angelsnupnup7reborn 2 years ago
@ Angels,
True, singing to the choir doesn't expand the choir.
And there is always a risk of losing potential audience when one's message is provocative.
But, the provocation may wake some new people up, too. It makes people stop and self-assess.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
great video and great work nick! i really want to make it to one of these shows sometime soon, haha!
lacigreen 2 years ago
It would be great to have you call in, Laci.
Do you know Kubana08? She attends UCB, too. You two should make contact.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
Outstanding.
tmotofga 2 years ago
Outstanding guests you networked together, Tmot.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@Cimbolic
The best is yet to come. You are a great host. Thanks for all of your hard work. I have got to Brenda her props for those guests. I can't take credit for that.
tmotofga 2 years ago
Thanks, Tmot.
Brenda was fabulous on the show!
Cimbolic 2 years ago
In my opinion there is nothing more harmfull to minorities than to tell them that they need the protection of the state .
Lets be honest, there are turds everywhere and if you run into them and then believe it is because of race that can be a hurdle too high to jump.
Everybody eats crap if I thought I had to eat it because of race I wouldnt .
And neither do many in the minority community which then in turns stops their progress.
IMAO
JAMRAND 2 years ago
I believe you have completely misunderstood the video, JamRand.
The video is about individual and community self-empowerment, and holding elected officials accountable in a representative republic.
It is NOT about the State protecting anybody.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@Cimbolic
I would think that we should be governed as a people and not as a divided people.
The division being caused by the implication that it is necessary .
I guess I am a dunce . Because I see it in the light of my first comment.
JAMRAND 2 years ago
Not "divided", but "differences".
There are natual differences in the needs of communites. A farming community has different needs than an urban one.
Politics is always a dialogue between needs.
Cimbolic 2 years ago