Insight catches Corvette Z06 on the track

[coronet1969]

So you caught up a novice WOMAN who didn't even own the 'vette.. Ya great job there boss.

[pocobasso]

What a load of crap. That Vette didn't know or care that you were even on the same track. He probably didn't want to be seen with you. Buy a car for god's sake.

[insightracer]

That's a FWD 5 speed manual transmission Insight. But the gears are so tall and far apart that I only need 2nd and 3rd gear on that track. 1st gear goes to 60km/hr (35 miles/hour). 2nd gear hits redline at 110 km/hr (65miles/hour). And 3rd gear can reach the car's maximum speed of 180km/hr (but that requires an extremely long straight not found on any race track i've even been on).

[fabglein]

i dont understand why some cars have tall ratio's..never driven a insight but would'nt it be better if the ratio's were 50,90,125,160 then fifth gear..i used to own a 99 integra type r and the ratio's went something like that...the engine was always in powerband(6500)rpm when u shift up...good vid anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

[airsoftboy]

is that insight MT? Do they even make MT insights? Also, are they FWD or RWD? man, such wierd new looking cars lol's.

[DelilahThePig]

@airsoftboy They stopped making this generation in 2006, followed by the near total re-design of late. I still drive an '05 with MT as my primary vehicle and it's laughable to think about racing it. Although the design is sporty and has very good aerodynamics, the engine is a 3 cylinder 1.0 liter with a maximum power (coupled with a fully charged electric motor) of less than 100 h.p. The new Insight is a 4-cylinder family car and does not have the option of MT.

[omgsean2]

@DelilahThePig because they remover 5 speed mt before put cvt on 2nd gen insight due to more fuel but it weight little increase due to four door and seat for family

[dpsnodgrass1215]

wow imagine if someone put a k20 engine in an insight and tuned the suspension correctly. it might actually be decently fast with a good driver...i mean, it's no corvette, but it's a cheap start

[kontroledkos]

This track is so muck better than shannonville or cayuga,and your getting closer to the real deal to.

[AtomicRooster190]

I've started to prefer Shannonville because it's so much larger. It gives you more to do for a track day. The elevation changes at DDT are wonderful though, and it's great on brakes.

[astroboyracer247]

The Gas engine alone without the electric motor helping:

67 horsepower at 5,700 revolutions per minute (rpm) and 66 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm.

With the electric motor helping:

73 HP 5700 RPM

91 IB.-ft 2000 RPM

The electric motor really helps!!

[omgsean2]

@astroboyracer247 yea it like the prius and honda cr-z have electric motor can help with gas engine than without it cause lost hp and torque when i use it in gt4 and gt psp before i get ps3 slim and gt5 have hybrid and electric cars still there plus 3 new hybrid cars came to it for drive.

[astroboyracer247]

73 HP at 5700 RPM

91 IB.-ft at 2000 RPM

It seems to me that the electric motor helps the engine more with torque than with HP. Electric motors have maximum torque from 0 RPM to max RPM so that explains how the car gets 91 IB.-ft Torque at 2000 RPM. For the weight of that car those number really can seem big! I always liked the Honda Insight, never thought of it like a sluggish Prius.

[tvr713]

Oh yeah, I Autox and do plenty of track days. i'd love to see you on an autoX corse. One question though. you didnt seem to respond to anything about my car having 4 doors, and being able to seat 5 people in it, with child seats? come on man, dont get lazy on me here, run to your sorces, tell me why 4 doors and having a back seat is useless! haha. Well, i guess we will just be bickering about this forever now wont we. I just hope big bad zo6 guy doesnt call me a douchebag again! on dear!

[01Z06guy]

"you didnt seem to respond to anything about my car having 4 doors, and being able to seat 5 people in it, with child seats?"

Because I don't care. Just like I don't care about going off roading in my sports car. Never did I say one car was "better," as that is purely dependant on the priorities ands tastes of the buyer. I simply stated the FACT that the Z06 is FASTER. And you had to get butthurt. Your can is slower learn it, admit it, and get over it.

[01Z06guy]

"I Autox and do plenty of track days"

That's a lie. If it were true, you never would have said this.

"i've love to see a 01 zo6 get remotely close to a new "base" c6."

If you had spend any time at all at the track, you would have known much better than that already.

[PUREOWN]

the z06 driver wasnt worth a shit obviously this video is pointless.

[bigford91287]

I'm intrested in buying an Insight, is the pedal placement sufficient for heel-and-toe downshifts? Not that I plan on hunting down 'Vettes.

[insightracer]

The Insight's pedal placement is excellent for heel-and-toe downshifts. Much better pedal placements then most cars, easily better then most,if not all, American sports cars.

I know from personal experience that the pedal placement of the Ford GT supercar is not very good, I talked to one of the design engineers about that he said Ford lawyers wouldn't let them put the pedals closer together!

[insightracer]

About 12 days/ year I'm an in-car instructor at several advanced performance driving courses and track schools so I've driven most types of cars.

[noob5000000]

pretty impressive.

[darrinjeffrieskilla]

we all know corvetts suck, well we japs know, americans are still finding out. why the insight to the track though, saving our plannet, cool

[insightracer]

Why drive the Insight on the track?

Simple answer really, that was my only car at the time.

[01Z06guy]

Really? Then how is it that the Z06 is faster at the strip and track than any stock Japanese production car ever constructed until the R35? If being faster than all of them sucks, I guess you must think that all Japanese cars suck too, huh? England, Germany, and Italy have all sold faster cars than the Z06 here, but Japan never has.  Last place. The usual location for JDM fags.

[darrinjeffrieskilla]

Typical american answer, Its not all about whos got the biggest motor & fastest down the straight buddy our roads have turns too, Japs are all about precise tunning and averall ballance of a vehical, someting you typical gearheads know jack about.

[01Z06guy]

Oh so all those race tracks have no turns? You know, Road+Track tested the NSX and the 2001 Z06 at the same time in a test they called "sibling rivalry." They measured the slalom speed, lateral G, and lap times at Thunder Hill.

Slalom

C5Z06= 67.1mph

NSX= 62.1mph

Lateral G

C5Z06= 1.00 G

NSX= .92 G

Thunder Hill lap

C5Z06= 2:08.3

NSX= 2:14.1

[01Z06guy]

Care to explain how the C5Z06 (not even the C6Z06) both runs through the slalom much faster and pulls much more lateral G?

Your answer is the typical ignorant JDM fag answer. Assuming the Japanese car out corners the American car because your bias tells you it does. Facts and reality prove that it doesn't. The American C5Z06 out runs, out corners, and sets much lower laps times than the Japanese God NSX that you JDM fags worship. Oh, and it cost about 1/2 the price too.

[darrinjeffrieskilla]

Well see who ends up paying more in the long run moron, your gas prices alone are more than the damn car payment, do the math, were not even getting into maintenance, good luck/w the vette.

[01Z06guy]

There you go with your ignorant JDM fag incorrect assumptions again!

EPA ratings

2001 Z06 = 18 city/ 28 highway

2001 NSX = 17 city/ 24 highway

That's right, my 400hp American car gets BETTER mileage than you 300hp Japanese car!

Yes, let's get into maintenance too. My car has 128,000 miles on it with the original clutch, shocks, water pump, and pretty much everything else. And I track it regularly. How's yours doing?

[01Z06guy]

Sorry to only pick on one of your JDM fag Gods. I confused you with someone who worships the NSX above all other JDM fag Gods. To be fair, I should inform you that my Z06 gets better MPG than the Supra TT, EVO, STi, GTR, and even the S2000 as well.

[tvr713]

you know i dont mind z06's... but your a typical owner. Just thinking that his z06 is the most amazing car on the road. its a good car, but get the chip off your shoulder will ya? it all comes down to the driver of the car. Saying your car is better then all the japs... i strongly think your idiotic. As a owner of a Evo IX i know i could keep up with you (if not beat) you on a track... and if there was a wisp of water on the track, i'd be laughing as you spun and spun.get off your highhorse.

[01Z06guy]

"Saying your car is better then all the japs... i strongly think your idiotic"

Hey dumbfuck, I didn't say anything about "better," I said it's faster at the strip and track than any stock Japanese car short of the R35 as proven by FACTUAL 1/4 mile and lap times. That's stating a fact. And if you can't accept that fact, I strongly know you are an idiot.

[01Z06guy]

"As a owner of a Evo IX i know i could keep up with you"

Really? How do you know that? Because it happens in your dreams? Where are your race videos? I eat evos at the track easily and I've yet to be passed by one. Stock to stock the Z06 owns the evo at the track. FACT.

[tvr713]

Your right. why did i buy my Evo instead of a z06. Ah, i remember. Its a 4 door, 5 passenger, awd, inline 4 that i've gotten 28mpg in the city with, oh wait AND it was 20,000 less for performance as good IF not better then your vette on a dry race track. Now i said dry, cause its a FACT i could beat you on a rainy, snowy, dirty, sandy, icy, muddy track or road. I didnt mean for this to get ugly, but your a typical cocky z06 owner. Best bang for buck? Evo hands down. i think i proved my point.

[01Z06guy]

"i've gotten 28mpg in the city"

I don't know what year your evo is, but I'd be happy to compare it's mileage to my Z06. Assuming your car is a 2005 evo, the epa rating is 17mpg city / 23mpg highway. The epa rating for my 2001 Z06 is 17mpg city, 26mpg highway. If you go by the ratings on their original window stickers, my car is more efficient by the same margins. You can find this data at fueleconomy(dot)gov. And I AVERAGE 26mpg. C5Z06 is more fuel effiecient than the EVO. FACT.

[tvr713]

lol! wow. i'm glad you trust everything all the "sorces" tell you... the real sorce is the person with the car... EPA might have what ever fuel economy there is for our cars... but you just said it there, i AVERAGE 26 mpg. that must mean your always on the interstate or to the EPA your wrong. come on, think about it, as much as you just said they were wrong on their stats with your car, they were with mine. I can get 28mpg EVERYDAY in the city let alone what i can get on the highway.

[01Z06guy]

"it was 20,000 less"

Really? You paid $20,000 less than the $20,000 I paid for my Z06? No, you paid more than me for a slower car.

[tvr713]

haha. nice flip, again. you like to talk about what all the sorces tell you about our cars to prove me wrong, but when it comes down to personal involvement you make sure somehow you can still "beat me". I'm glad to see that my car will hold its value alot better then yours. 54k car, - 6 or 7 years, = 20k car. shoot, you coulda bought an evo MR for that much loss. thats a 63% depreciation rate. ouch. 03 evos are going fro around 19-23k, listed new 31k. thats around 38-30%. look'n up for rice.

[01Z06guy]

"I'm glad to see that my car will hold its value alot better then yours"

Nope, not even close. I have watched C5Z06 prices very closely over the two years I have owned the car. They have not dropped at all. EVO prices, on the other hand, have been dropping like a stone. BTW, my car only cost $48,500 new and I only got it soo cheap because it had 99,000 miles when I bought it. No my friend, you will lose your azz in resale, I would get pretty much all my money back if I sold.

[01Z06guy]

"performance as good IF not better then your vette on a dry race track"

Wrong. EVO is inferior on a race track.

Hockenhiem

C5Z06= 1:14.9

EVO IX= 1:17.6

Nurburgring

C5Z06= 7:56

EVO VII= 8:25

Those are the only times for the C5Z06, but I could give you many times showing the base C6 spanks the EVO and it's a know fact that the C5Z06 beats the base C6.

[tvr713]

haha, again, sorces. wierd, i found a sorce telling me my Evo IX ran the nurburgring in 8:03. Depending on the track depends on the outcomeing. a longer, more open track your vette could steach its legs, while on a shorter more curvy track, my evo could loose your vette. Different tracks, different cars. on smaller more accurate tracks, my evo would come out on top. And i've love to see a 01 zo6 get remotely close to a new "base" c6.

[01Z06guy]

"i found a sorce telling me my Evo IX ran the nurburgring in 8:03"

Well your source is wrong. No legitimate n'ring list has that time for the evo. Go to fastestlaps(dot)com and see reality. If you have a valid source, they will add your time, but you don't.

[01Z06guy]

"i've love to see a 01 zo6 get remotely close to a new "base" c6"

No problem.

n'ring

C5Z06= 7:56

C6= 7:59

Hockenhiem

C5Z06= 1:14.9

C6= 1:14.8

corvetteforum(dot)com/showthre­ad(dot)php?t=2081903&highlight­=C6Z51

[01Z06guy]

"on a shorter more curvy track, my evo could loose your vette"

Wrong.

Vairano Handling Course

C6= 1:21.219

EVO IX= 1:21.806

The EVO IX can only out slalom the vette, the vette pulls more lateral Gs, therefor corners at higher speed.

C5Z06= 1.0g

EVO IX= .93g

[01Z06guy]

"its a FACT i could beat you on a rainy"

Really? Facts are provable, like I have done. So go ahead and prove this. Only ricers think AWD helps a car brake, corner, and pull down the striaghtaways. So, are you a ricer? More importantly, I am a licensed racer and track my car regularly, you are a douchebag who has never been on a race track. I would lap you in short order, rain or not.

[tvr713]

hahaha wow. you are sooo open minded. I am really starting to feel bad for you. yes, z06's are great amazing cars, but you've just made this FACT clear to me. You dont know what your talking about and your brain washed about your car. It makes me a ricer to understand that awd helps cars get around corners faster. I guess ricers are also Buggatis, Porsches 911's, lambos, audis, bentley continentals, cadillacs, and Mercedes too? hum. how odd. Rain, dirt, snow, or ice, i could out run you. FACT

[01Z06guy]

"It makes me a ricer to understand that awd helps cars get around corners faster"

If you think it makes a car corner faster, yes, you have ricer logic. Tell me, why are no tarmac race cars AWD? Why is F1 RWD? NONE of the cars on your list are track cars. All of them are heavy, high speed, street cars. Guess what Porsche does to the 911 when they want it to perform on the track? They make it RWD. GT3, GT3RS, GT2, and Carrara GT. All for the track, all RWD. Why?

[RalphRexMurphyBimbo]

why did the car loose hp?

[insightracer]

The car lost power because it's an electric assist Hybrid. So when the 144V battery pack drained the 7 HP electric motor could not help.

[greg7920]

Ah hahahahahaha even a half electric honda can keep up with a vette in the bends.

[wharghoul]

The current gen Corvette is faster around a track than most Ferraris.

This one was just being driven by an idiot.

[philipp122]

Only the sport luxury ones. No one realizes that those are designed for beauty and luxury in a fast package. A true racing Ferrari like a 512BB, F40, F50, or Enzo beats the Vette every time at the track.

[djmatix]

Nice s2000 steering wheel :-D

[osirisvb]

corvette driver = (novice) boyfriends car

that abouts sums it up right there. The car wasnt even hers, so theres no way she was pushing it close to half its peformance.'

Gj to the insight driver though, his lines were clean

[insightracer]

The Toyota Prius is tall, has softer more comfortable suspension and weghts 2900 lbs. The Insight will always handle much better because it has stiffer suspension and weighs 1900 lbs. These two cars are completely different types of cars they only share the fact they are both Hybrids.

[PointBlankBen]

The driver had really really clean lines. I think the RA1's didn't hurt either ;) R-comps on an insight, haha, that's crazy.

And FWIW, the vette had a beginner driver. Wasn't terrible lines or anything, but was pussy footing it, and braking points seemed way off.

[PriusHybrid]

Im sorry but 0-60 in 11 Seconds is not fast. And it's not that great because it can't even run on just electric and only seats 2 people. A Toyota Prius seats 5 people and is a little faster.

[aaroncake]

I've driven all generations of the Prius, and own a 2000 Insight. The Prius is *SLOW*, handles like a bathtub and gets poor fuel economy. Honda specs the Insight 0-60 as 10 seconds, but in my experience when you actually know how to launch, it's closer to 8.5 - 9.0.

[jdmpower86]

What a loser...trying to prove his fuel efficient vehicle is a performance car...and who knows how many times he's driven on this track...fag

[PointBlankBen]

No, it proves that a good driver can be fast in any car.