Toby seems like a good guy- hard working, responsible. Toby should start dating Corrie from The Bachelor. Good matchup for both. Plus one for German-Americans.
Wow to conille24 ...your an idiot hes ranked 5th for RBs on NFL DRAFT boards for 2010...if lendale white can play RB in the NFL im pretty sure this guy can. his 40 is a little slow but 4.55 will still get you places at the size he posseses
@Conille24 He's really not that slow. Did you see those defensive backs taking the wrong angle on him? Sure, not the speediest running back out there, but he definately has quicks ad strength.
True dat!! Ingram had a great year, but Gerhart was robbed!! If the hype machine had rolled his name earlier he would have won, that's BS!!! Hell, maybe Suh is the best player in college football, but lineman never get their just credit
toby is more deserving, he played against 6 top 40 rush defenses and ingram only played against one and that was florida in the SEC championship game. SEC defense way overrated, and toby led the nation in td's and rushing yards, far more consistent.
Nooo! You fell right into my trap. It wouldnt matter if they put 500 men in the box, he is playing in the Pac 10. The Pac 10's defense is completely invisible on the field. When a Pac 10 offense steps onto the field against a Pac 10 defense, its basically a practice scrimmage. And also, I would like to reverse the statement of me not knowing football. Obviously you didnt watch the Iron Bowl. Ingram was injured at the beginning of the game with a hip pointer. Wake up. SEC rules college football.
Toby Gerhart? Please. He is a great athlete, dont get me wrong. But he plays in a Pac 10 conference that is a mess this year and has no defense whatsoever. Mark Ingram is the best choice for the Heisman, hands down. I gurantee if Gerhart played in the SEC it would be a totally different story. Plus, to add more fuel to the fire, Stanford has lost 4 games. That just doesnt cut it for a Heisman winner. If you feel differently ,please reply to this so I can make you look and feel dumb. :)
Wow bud. That spelling is atrocious. But thats beside the point. Facts? Gerhart: Great athlete. Consistent... BUT, only against poor defenses. He hasnt been tested. Ingram: Excellent vision. Able to make quick cut's and is extremely quick on his feet. Now, I will agree that Ingram isnt explosive, speed wise. But he makes up for it in every other aspect. Uh oh, your ignorance is showing. :)
This guys clearly deserves it! Mark Ingram isn't even touching him on stats. In one article I read it said that he wasn't considered a "pre season" favorite. What kinda shit is that? The award is supposed to go to the most outstanding player in college football. Not team, Not conference, Football! I will be pissed if they give it to Tim Teblow or Mark Ingram.
Ingram splits carries with two other RB's on the team. Saban could have easily padded his stats against our weaker oppenents but took him out early. Keep in mind also that 30% of his yards have come after contact, and he's running in a conference geared toward stopping the run. That's a stat. I think Gerhart is impressive from what I've seen, but to throw Ingram under the bus is a little silly.
I agree and I definately changed my mind more so about him after that game against Florida. It's gonna be a close call but I do believe Ingram will win it. I hope Colt McCoy doesn't win
As a Black man and sports lover, I am irked at the "stacking" that goes on, especially in the NFL. White dudes can't play TB or CB, Black dudes ain't cut out for QB. It's all BS. Excellent players played out by "stacking": Eldridge Dickey, Joe "747" Adams, Travis Jervey, etc...Brad Muster and Jacob Hester misused, Damon Allen totally ignored, had to go the CFL to excell because of racism, reverse-racism and stacking!! Gerhart is a superstar at RB if I've ever seen one! Real talk!!!
You're absolutely right. Gerhart, the leading HS rusher in California High School history, was recruited by USC and they wanted to turn him into a linebacker...C'mon. Same thing they do with some black QB's in high school. "Well, I don't see you at QB in college, but we can convert you to a situational QB or WR." I don't know why coaches and scouts do this... If you're good, you're good. Who cares what color.
Damn straight, if your good your good. I am sick of stacking!! Gerhart should get the Heisman, lets dispel "color" at positions, it BS. Pat Fischer was an excellent CB, but he was "white". BS, Fischer "biggest short-coming" he was
5'8", he has never gotten recognition. I could on for days. These stupid MFs that run the personnel departments are somebody's brother-in-law. If Gerhart has to play LB or FB in the NFL, I will stop watching. Fuck them!!!!
You're right: so many coaches are color-struck! People like Mangino are downright racist and others won't let guys play their best positions apparently because they don't "fit the image" because ability doesn't explain it.
Fans, too. Here in Tampa, we don't see Stanford much, so Toby is new to me. Somebody said he was a power back "like Mike Alstott"-a white guy. This Gerhart has Mike's power but is quicker and downright elusive.
Due to narrow minds, people expect little and get little.
Alstott was a bad MF!!! Mark Van Eeghan and Sam Gash rolled into a REAL football player!! Who says white dudes can't play TB, oh, I 4got, personnel departments in the NFL say so. That kid Jacob Hester is being wasted because of this stupid stacking system. I am ashamed as a Black man that racism is reversing and fucking us up. Keep that shit out of sports and give credit to real ball players like Alstott, Gerhart, etc...
@acdegrees421 some day i'd love to see a team with a "passing" Black QB (every black qb HAS to be a running QB), White RB, Black Kicker, and White CB.
Unfortunetly, WE ALL are victims of stacking, not only in sports, but in life. White dudes are managers, Black dudes are drug dealers or gangsters; profiling is another term. Enough profiling!! If Toby doesn't get the trophy, I hope he is the
1st-3rd RB taken in the draft, if not, the NFL can kiss my ass
white running backs never get any looks.... its true too. Especially coming out of highschool to a D1 school..... congrats to Toby!.. i hope he wins the heisman and succeeds at the next level if he wishes. I'm a tampa fan and he reminds of me Alstott!.... Look up alstott highlights when he was at purdue
I thought he was like Alstott too when i first saw him because he bulldozed the guy but i would danger to say that he is much more talented than Mike. Toby processes speed, agility, and that good ole fashion kiss your ass attitude. I love this guy and he deserves that Heisman trophy.
yeah that is true... i guess i like how they are both kinda quiet tho, aren't loud " hey everybody come see how good i look" kinda players. They just handle their business and leave a wreck behind them. Toby is a little quicker but Mike wasn't too slow either. Look up "alstott is amazing part two". Mike used to have nimble quick feet for his size too but toby has a lil more agility...... i do love this guy too and agree the heisman SHOULD be his to win.
I saw Alstott at Purdue where he creamed a pass rusher, later caught a pass out of the backfield and out ran an angle from a safety. No big deal? It is if you don't get your just due. I agree, Alstott had that kiss-ass attitude, kind of like Frank Nitti!!
now that everyone is tunning into youtube to finally watch this guy i want to make some points that are well shown in this video. HE IS FAST looks are decieving. Watch the second run in this video he is just as fast as taylor mays plus he is lookin behind him to look for a cut back that never shows up. and he always falls forward he is super clutch on 3rd down's he never goes down Watch the cal game this saturday please he will show u y he deserves to go to the hiesman cerimony not win it but go
real heisman trophy winner
BRANDONRULES107 1 year ago
Toby seems like a good guy- hard working, responsible. Toby should start dating Corrie from The Bachelor. Good matchup for both. Plus one for German-Americans.
funkybjorn11 2 years ago
Wow to conille24 ...your an idiot hes ranked 5th for RBs on NFL DRAFT boards for 2010...if lendale white can play RB in the NFL im pretty sure this guy can. his 40 is a little slow but 4.55 will still get you places at the size he posseses
droppindim3s 2 years ago
Toby Gerhart is a beast runningback but he's too slow to be a runningback in the NFL there going to put him as fullback he's like a perfect fullback.
Conille24 2 years ago
Toow slow or too white you dumb nigger lover?
whitekid2019 2 years ago
After Toby ran a phenomenal 4:51 40-meter at the nfl combine, what say you now dumb arse? What a plonker.
Yes, I know what I am talking about: I can run a 5:05 mile at age 44.
mccormack9 1 year ago
@Conille24 He's really not that slow. Did you see those defensive backs taking the wrong angle on him? Sure, not the speediest running back out there, but he definately has quicks ad strength.
Lehmann108 1 year ago
did gerhart walk on to stanfords football team cause i could not find him on scout or rivals
zachbird27 2 years ago
TB Buc's need this guy!
Ghpennington3 2 years ago 2
The Bucs made one of their greatest draft picks in the early 90s when they drafted John Lynch from Stanford. Another great football/baseball player!
Lynch put a huge hit on Jerome Bettis in the '91 game against Notre Dame -- looking for video on that one.
mccormack9 1 year ago
@mccormack9
I got his autograph when i was a little kid!
Circle4Band 1 year ago
he got robbed cuz he wasnt on a national team like bama texas or florida the same thing happened to Donald Brown last year
MegaMets1986 2 years ago
True dat!! Ingram had a great year, but Gerhart was robbed!! If the hype machine had rolled his name earlier he would have won, that's BS!!! Hell, maybe Suh is the best player in college football, but lineman never get their just credit
acdegrees421 2 years ago
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MegaMets1986 2 years ago
the white beanie wells...
jesseclifton 2 years ago
Nah, Beanie is the black Toby Gerhart
acdegrees421 2 years ago
Ndamdukong Suh should win
gazingalfoot 2 years ago
toby is more deserving, he played against 6 top 40 rush defenses and ingram only played against one and that was florida in the SEC championship game. SEC defense way overrated, and toby led the nation in td's and rushing yards, far more consistent.
MegaLakersfan 2 years ago
Alstott and Sapp 2.0?
burner27 2 years ago
obviously you dont know football jesusfreak... gerhart deserves all the way
i mean they are putting 9 men in the box and he is still poundin their brains in..
and its all about one word
CONSISTENCY
gerhart has that while ingram does not with four games under 100 yards while toby has 2 and his lowest yards per game this year was 82 yards
ingram if a remember he had 34 yards against auburn so yeah way to look smart there
boyleb12345 2 years ago
Nooo! You fell right into my trap. It wouldnt matter if they put 500 men in the box, he is playing in the Pac 10. The Pac 10's defense is completely invisible on the field. When a Pac 10 offense steps onto the field against a Pac 10 defense, its basically a practice scrimmage. And also, I would like to reverse the statement of me not knowing football. Obviously you didnt watch the Iron Bowl. Ingram was injured at the beginning of the game with a hip pointer. Wake up. SEC rules college football.
TheJesusFreakk7 2 years ago
haven't seen a white running back for a while.
vballspikerter 2 years ago
JOHN RIGGINS 2.0?
burner27 2 years ago
yeah tobys prolly gonna win da heisman. the espn guys are projecting it
allsports4 2 years ago
Toby Gerhart? Please. He is a great athlete, dont get me wrong. But he plays in a Pac 10 conference that is a mess this year and has no defense whatsoever. Mark Ingram is the best choice for the Heisman, hands down. I gurantee if Gerhart played in the SEC it would be a totally different story. Plus, to add more fuel to the fire, Stanford has lost 4 games. That just doesnt cut it for a Heisman winner. If you feel differently ,please reply to this so I can make you look and feel dumb. :)
TheJesusFreakk7 2 years ago
ur a straight up faggot. gehrhart over engram this year any day
PPPPookinz 2 years ago
Wow bud. That spelling is atrocious. But thats beside the point. Facts? Gerhart: Great athlete. Consistent... BUT, only against poor defenses. He hasnt been tested. Ingram: Excellent vision. Able to make quick cut's and is extremely quick on his feet. Now, I will agree that Ingram isnt explosive, speed wise. But he makes up for it in every other aspect. Uh oh, your ignorance is showing. :)
TheJesusFreakk7 2 years ago
toby is the friken best player ever he has to win he is a BEAST
fatkid6543 2 years ago
This guys clearly deserves it! Mark Ingram isn't even touching him on stats. In one article I read it said that he wasn't considered a "pre season" favorite. What kinda shit is that? The award is supposed to go to the most outstanding player in college football. Not team, Not conference, Football! I will be pissed if they give it to Tim Teblow or Mark Ingram.
PathofReason 2 years ago
Ingram splits carries with two other RB's on the team. Saban could have easily padded his stats against our weaker oppenents but took him out early. Keep in mind also that 30% of his yards have come after contact, and he's running in a conference geared toward stopping the run. That's a stat. I think Gerhart is impressive from what I've seen, but to throw Ingram under the bus is a little silly.
BerryCinnamon76 2 years ago
I agree and I definately changed my mind more so about him after that game against Florida. It's gonna be a close call but I do believe Ingram will win it. I hope Colt McCoy doesn't win
PathofReason 2 years ago
toby is SICK!
MrStuntmonkey33 2 years ago
As a Black man and sports lover, I am irked at the "stacking" that goes on, especially in the NFL. White dudes can't play TB or CB, Black dudes ain't cut out for QB. It's all BS. Excellent players played out by "stacking": Eldridge Dickey, Joe "747" Adams, Travis Jervey, etc...Brad Muster and Jacob Hester misused, Damon Allen totally ignored, had to go the CFL to excell because of racism, reverse-racism and stacking!! Gerhart is a superstar at RB if I've ever seen one! Real talk!!!
acdegrees421 2 years ago 2
You're absolutely right. Gerhart, the leading HS rusher in California High School history, was recruited by USC and they wanted to turn him into a linebacker...C'mon. Same thing they do with some black QB's in high school. "Well, I don't see you at QB in college, but we can convert you to a situational QB or WR." I don't know why coaches and scouts do this... If you're good, you're good. Who cares what color.
BobLahblahsLawblogs 2 years ago
Damn straight, if your good your good. I am sick of stacking!! Gerhart should get the Heisman, lets dispel "color" at positions, it BS. Pat Fischer was an excellent CB, but he was "white". BS, Fischer "biggest short-coming" he was
5'8", he has never gotten recognition. I could on for days. These stupid MFs that run the personnel departments are somebody's brother-in-law. If Gerhart has to play LB or FB in the NFL, I will stop watching. Fuck them!!!!
acdegrees421 2 years ago
You're right: so many coaches are color-struck! People like Mangino are downright racist and others won't let guys play their best positions apparently because they don't "fit the image" because ability doesn't explain it.
Fans, too. Here in Tampa, we don't see Stanford much, so Toby is new to me. Somebody said he was a power back "like Mike Alstott"-a white guy. This Gerhart has Mike's power but is quicker and downright elusive.
Due to narrow minds, people expect little and get little.
battenwood 2 years ago
Alstott was a bad MF!!! Mark Van Eeghan and Sam Gash rolled into a REAL football player!! Who says white dudes can't play TB, oh, I 4got, personnel departments in the NFL say so. That kid Jacob Hester is being wasted because of this stupid stacking system. I am ashamed as a Black man that racism is reversing and fucking us up. Keep that shit out of sports and give credit to real ball players like Alstott, Gerhart, etc...
acdegrees421 2 years ago
@acdegrees421 some day i'd love to see a team with a "passing" Black QB (every black qb HAS to be a running QB), White RB, Black Kicker, and White CB.
taco8420 2 years ago
Unfortunetly, WE ALL are victims of stacking, not only in sports, but in life. White dudes are managers, Black dudes are drug dealers or gangsters; profiling is another term. Enough profiling!! If Toby doesn't get the trophy, I hope he is the
1st-3rd RB taken in the draft, if not, the NFL can kiss my ass
acdegrees421 2 years ago
white running backs never get any looks.... its true too. Especially coming out of highschool to a D1 school..... congrats to Toby!.. i hope he wins the heisman and succeeds at the next level if he wishes. I'm a tampa fan and he reminds of me Alstott!.... Look up alstott highlights when he was at purdue
7Lexo 2 years ago 2
I thought he was like Alstott too when i first saw him because he bulldozed the guy but i would danger to say that he is much more talented than Mike. Toby processes speed, agility, and that good ole fashion kiss your ass attitude. I love this guy and he deserves that Heisman trophy.
CountyLT76 2 years ago
yeah that is true... i guess i like how they are both kinda quiet tho, aren't loud " hey everybody come see how good i look" kinda players. They just handle their business and leave a wreck behind them. Toby is a little quicker but Mike wasn't too slow either. Look up "alstott is amazing part two". Mike used to have nimble quick feet for his size too but toby has a lil more agility...... i do love this guy too and agree the heisman SHOULD be his to win.
7Lexo 2 years ago
I saw Alstott at Purdue where he creamed a pass rusher, later caught a pass out of the backfield and out ran an angle from a safety. No big deal? It is if you don't get your just due. I agree, Alstott had that kiss-ass attitude, kind of like Frank Nitti!!
acdegrees421 2 years ago
i hope a white runningback finally gets some recognition for the nfl
whitelitnin5 2 years ago 5
he is a FREAK!! and he is white!
jerrycramer 2 years ago 3
so elusive...
BUC1M1Z 2 years ago 3
It's so funny watching him run because defenders sometimes just bounce off him like little kids trying to tackle their dad.
Then sometimes you can see the defender thinking "oh man, how do I tackle this guy" then he just runs through him, or over him or around him.
He makes more runners look foolish than any back since Barry Sanders, just in a different way.
charlesmsix 2 years ago 8
Great team, great player, but this sure ain't Heisman-level music.
Come on, play something that's original!
(Melody would be nice)
7855waldo 2 years ago
Btw, 4:27 is sick.
cogitoergosum321 2 years ago 2
He's so fast, elusive, and strong. Toby's doubtlessly Heisman and NFL material.
cogitoergosum321 2 years ago
he ran all over USC and is too big and too fast for anybody....great pick for the BEARS next year :)
MrSancen 2 years ago
He's the real deal.
lol262510 2 years ago 2
now that everyone is tunning into youtube to finally watch this guy i want to make some points that are well shown in this video. HE IS FAST looks are decieving. Watch the second run in this video he is just as fast as taylor mays plus he is lookin behind him to look for a cut back that never shows up. and he always falls forward he is super clutch on 3rd down's he never goes down Watch the cal game this saturday please he will show u y he deserves to go to the hiesman cerimony not win it but go
bannanamans22 2 years ago 2