all it is is Transubstatiation: aka theRomaan-Catholic belief that when the priest says "this is my Body" & this is my blood" bread & wine become(literally) Christ's body & blood through the "power" of the priest,to the believer,it looks just-like bread & wine but is now a body & blood. all Duchamp did was to secularize-Transubstantiation,turning the "ART-WORLD" into a Faith-based-community.He is a public-relations genius & that is much of the 20th century.
It seems to me that if you need to ask the question about whether a "work" is a work of art - well then...it most probably is NOT! This, I think is the most reasonable and workable view. Now - if you say, even the great artists, composers, etc., of the past faced, at times, serious opposition - I would say that noone ever questioned even the most controversial advances in their art form by the greats of the past in this way.
Economic and social conditions affect every aspect of an individual's life. The role of art is not only to represent such conditions truthfully, but also to seek to improve them.
What a fantastic video. . . thank you so much for posting this. Indeed, the struggle between "art" and "craft" seems almost a shooting war now. . . I'm sorry, you can master as many skills as you want (and I have), but for me, it is this asking of questions about our human condition that REALLY makes "art" special. . . this can screw an artist's financial trajectory, but I'm utterly blown-away by the leaps Duchamp gave us as humans and artists. I'm forever indebted to him.
On this days ART is Paint. If I make a piece of jewellery from a string of wire, that is not see as ART ! Why is that ?? Why people pay 1000£ for some paint and they do not give value for a piece of ART that come from the hands of a Craft man ? OH ! I know !! Crafts are not ART, Paint is ART... OR Do the Artists need to die to have some value in the ART he left ?? I think this all have to do with Elitism. DaDa-Project
he kept his tongue firmly in his cheek thats what made him completely different from the rest .......Unique .............. or anti - unique!?? je ne sais pas!!
with every new generation of artists, the whole genre will be reinvented yet again - good old fashioned talent and craftsmanship will always win out it in the end......
I ADMIRE DUCHAMP ALOT-HIS IDEA'S ARE LIBERATING & INTERESTING-STILL,HE IS RESPONSIBLE-INDIRECTLY-FOR TRIVIALISING ART...WHERE IT'S IN THE POSITION IT IS TODAY...I THINK,ON SOME LEVEL,THAT IT'LL SHIFT BACK AGAIN TO IT'S ARTISAN ROOTS-OF CRAFT...THESE THINGS COME & GO...HE'S VERY HARD TO COMPREHEND,THOUGH-A FASCINATING MAN...READ CALVIN TOMKINS BIO. IF YOU'RE A FAN xoxox.
@vassiliscompo No. It's because when the focus shifts to being on the craft, art stagnates and regurgitation eventually becomes the order of the day. Sure, we may get a period where we get some "prettier" art, but what in the hell is that worth? The deepest worth of art is art as a vehicle of exploration of the human condition. The time of artist as cabinetmaker is, or at least should be, over. Art has grown so far beyond that. There is no value in recession.
The Hitler of the art world. He is what he called himself- an anti-artist. Too bad so many people have lost sight of this aspect and make something they call conceptual art which is by his own definition anti-art.
I don't think he had and spiritual feeling for art. I think Picasso was an artist of life but Duchamp was always to death. Matisse was sensual. I just don't think the games Duchamp played would have interested a man like Matisse or even Picasso.
@beradification Ponincelli revered Duchamp. He defiled not the original, which was mysteriously lost, but Duchamp's replacement replica. He was angry at his hero's willingness to make a replica of something Ponincelli thought was so revolutionary. Thus, he wanted revenge for this betrayal of the art. Just so you know, praising Ponincelli means taking Duchamp more seriously than he took himself.
@shapeswentagain I personally don't care what Pinoncelli thought about anything. But he did the right thing in pissing in the urinal because that is all it is, a simple urinal. Duchamp obviously made a replica in order to maximize his profits; if the thought was revolutionary then why would he have to make copies? I take seriously most people who make exagerated claims which don't match with reality. Con-artists and fanatics.
@beradification Duchamp never called the urinal art. Upon its first display, there was a disclaimer stating that it was in no way, shape, or form a work of art. Duchamp didn't like art, which is ironic because he was quite good at it. Nude Descending a Staircase is quite a piece to see. Personally, I loathe the conceptual art of the present, but I like Duchamp. The Fountain is a testament to the idiocy of curators and their willingness to cash in on anything. Duchamp was intelligent for sure.
@beradification I have to disagree. I would say 99% of Duchamp's career was a search. He first mastered Impressionism, Cezanne-ism, Cubism, etc. Then he abandoned the "retinal" for the conceptual. Good art has ideas. But he was still lost in how to execute. The Fountain is just a test for me. He played with ideas to no avail until he "quit" art to play chess. After 25 years, he made one undeniable piece, Etant Donnes, binding the power and beauty of his first period with the ideas of the next.
@beradification What today's conceptual artists don't realize that Duchamp ultimately understood is that art needs ideas and power, beauty and mystery. Today's crowd would rather just throw around some pseudo-ideas and discard the rest. It took Duchamp a lifetime, but he ended with a meticulously crafted masterpiece, Etant Donnes. If you ever go to Philly, you should see it, even if just to prove me wrong. I applaud his long term career for the mini rebellions leading up to the brilliant finish.
@beradification HAH! He "fooled" more than the French you idiot. He shaped 20th century thought all over the world. Maybe you should rethink the historical context of the movement he was involved in. Then you would realize it is rather analogous with humanities thoughts and feeling after the first World War. So shame on you for speaking about things you know nothing about.
@climbaesthetic It sounds like you plagiarized that from a New York times article. He might have influenced stalinism, but that's it. He isn't a great thinker or a great anything, just a fraud.
Yes, Duchamp is indeed one of the most influential artists of all time. He showed a school of other largely talentless "artists" how to make large sums of money with very little effort.
Hey, did you know theres a retrospective of Nat Finkelsteins work (featuring Duchamp) from 20th Jan - 14th Feb at a gallery in London called IDEA GENERATION you should check it out! :-)
@SiriusRKW I disagree, I think it is clear that he was not a top rate artist, for instance, he once tried making a chess set, but could not fabricate the most difficult pieces- the knights- so he had a workmen make them. He was essentially talentless so he made up pranks to perform that don't have any lasting effect. If you want an artist of genius in the 20th century that would have to be Dali. He was extraordinary at painting, drawing and performances and created works of unique style.
@beradification Uh....(Duchamp) "didn't have any lasting effect"? You might need to re-think this statement. Although I love Dali, I will be the first to admit that Dali would not have had a career if it wasn't for R. Mutt.
@SiriusRKW I dont care for Art it has been totally discredited I want to get rid of it! I wish people today got the memo. NEWS FLASH. Art is Dead. It died in 1924, when the DaDa's declared it's death. Who are these so called artists today trying to fool? Some of us know 20th century European history, all though its not taught in the schools anymore so that's probably a contributing factor..
I'lll have to ask Princess Peussie about this one. She was a friend of Duchamp and owned one of his urinals.
robjacksontop 4 days ago
i love you marcel you changed my life.
tirompoicculo 1 week ago
h looks VERY sinister, sort of what he achieved in art too i geuss. sinister, but, very unintended i geuss.
soldierofvanity 2 months ago
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There is a new Dada, London Dada. We are kick stARTing the new millenium.
Moral protest and perception. Just as in 1916, when the art world changes the world will change.
LondonDada 2 months ago
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boogiebuddy01 2 months ago
Original WHITE ART = classical beauty, nature, harmony
jew inspired modern art = vile, shocking, abhorrrent, degrading
saptemai 2 months ago
Duchamp? Non! Douche-Chump.
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter And what are you basing that upon, mon ami?
FrostXFire 2 months ago
@FrostXFire The anti-artist's own words and "work".
ImaginedWriter 2 months ago
Marcel Duchamp=Original gangsta
xeal1387 4 months ago
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boogiebuddy01 4 months ago
der erste Antikünstler und Kunstbetrüger
the first anti-artist art fraud
kirliani 4 months ago
Why is he so cool?
penutbutterjelly1 4 months ago
EL GRAN CRISTAL:
josepgrifollcasas 6 months ago
all it is is Transubstatiation: aka theRomaan-Catholic belief that when the priest says "this is my Body" & this is my blood" bread & wine become(literally) Christ's body & blood through the "power" of the priest,to the believer,it looks just-like bread & wine but is now a body & blood. all Duchamp did was to secularize-Transubstantiation,turning the "ART-WORLD" into a Faith-based-community.He is a public-relations genius & that is much of the 20th century.
tlaniganschmidt 7 months ago
@tlaniganschmidt hes a commercial, or a magazine cover, a supermodel something like that or a bumper sticker
MrFalconford 5 months ago
I love this man :D :D :D
Mykelyna 7 months ago
It seems to me that if you need to ask the question about whether a "work" is a work of art - well then...it most probably is NOT! This, I think is the most reasonable and workable view. Now - if you say, even the great artists, composers, etc., of the past faced, at times, serious opposition - I would say that noone ever questioned even the most controversial advances in their art form by the greats of the past in this way.
lourak 7 months ago
Could someone transcribe what Marcel Duchamp says? I can't understand what he says - mainly in the beginning! Thanks!
pjeli 7 months ago
@pjeli Does he say "I don't care about the WORD 'art' " ?????
pjeli 7 months ago
Economic and social conditions affect every aspect of an individual's life. The role of art is not only to represent such conditions truthfully, but also to seek to improve them.
RogerVicorGreen 8 months ago
are there any other interviews of him anywhere?
boogiebuddy01 8 months ago
What a fantastic video. . . thank you so much for posting this. Indeed, the struggle between "art" and "craft" seems almost a shooting war now. . . I'm sorry, you can master as many skills as you want (and I have), but for me, it is this asking of questions about our human condition that REALLY makes "art" special. . . this can screw an artist's financial trajectory, but I'm utterly blown-away by the leaps Duchamp gave us as humans and artists. I'm forever indebted to him.
fissionchips223 9 months ago
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OvalGray 10 months ago
On this days ART is Paint. If I make a piece of jewellery from a string of wire, that is not see as ART ! Why is that ?? Why people pay 1000£ for some paint and they do not give value for a piece of ART that come from the hands of a Craft man ? OH ! I know !! Crafts are not ART, Paint is ART... OR Do the Artists need to die to have some value in the ART he left ?? I think this all have to do with Elitism. DaDa-Project
Fractaloop 10 months ago
Genius or Anti - genius are we ever to know?
he kept his tongue firmly in his cheek thats what made him completely different from the rest .......Unique .............. or anti - unique!?? je ne sais pas!!
lscpaintedinteriors 11 months ago
Godfather of Contemporary Art ... Much More ... Endless
KishoAudioVisual 11 months ago
shit is lame
boogiebuddy01 1 year ago
with every new generation of artists, the whole genre will be reinvented yet again - good old fashioned talent and craftsmanship will always win out it in the end......
braedon173 1 year ago
I ADMIRE DUCHAMP ALOT-HIS IDEA'S ARE LIBERATING & INTERESTING-STILL,HE IS RESPONSIBLE-INDIRECTLY-FOR TRIVIALISING ART...WHERE IT'S IN THE POSITION IT IS TODAY...I THINK,ON SOME LEVEL,THAT IT'LL SHIFT BACK AGAIN TO IT'S ARTISAN ROOTS-OF CRAFT...THESE THINGS COME & GO...HE'S VERY HARD TO COMPREHEND,THOUGH-A FASCINATING MAN...READ CALVIN TOMKINS BIO. IF YOU'RE A FAN xoxox.
nikossyren88 1 year ago
@nikossyren88 "I THINK,ON SOME LEVEL,THAT IT'LL SHIFT BACK AGAIN TO IT'S ARTISAN ROOTS-OF CRAFT"
Oh God, I hope not!
BloatedSensations 1 year ago
@BloatedSensations Why is that?... Just for the artist to be a more respectful role in society than the craftsman?...
vassiliscompo 11 months ago
@vassiliscompo No. It's because when the focus shifts to being on the craft, art stagnates and regurgitation eventually becomes the order of the day. Sure, we may get a period where we get some "prettier" art, but what in the hell is that worth? The deepest worth of art is art as a vehicle of exploration of the human condition. The time of artist as cabinetmaker is, or at least should be, over. Art has grown so far beyond that. There is no value in recession.
BloatedSensations 11 months ago
The Hitler of the art world. He is what he called himself- an anti-artist. Too bad so many people have lost sight of this aspect and make something they call conceptual art which is by his own definition anti-art.
akaprana 1 year ago
Marcel Duchamp is the most important artist of the xx century, no question about it.
srlouart 1 year ago
I don't think he had and spiritual feeling for art. I think Picasso was an artist of life but Duchamp was always to death. Matisse was sensual. I just don't think the games Duchamp played would have interested a man like Matisse or even Picasso.
simeonbanner 1 year ago
Hearing the voice of such a genius is crazy...
bacofishtaco 1 year ago 5
much praise to pierre pinoncelli!!
beradification 1 year ago
@beradification Ponincelli revered Duchamp. He defiled not the original, which was mysteriously lost, but Duchamp's replacement replica. He was angry at his hero's willingness to make a replica of something Ponincelli thought was so revolutionary. Thus, he wanted revenge for this betrayal of the art. Just so you know, praising Ponincelli means taking Duchamp more seriously than he took himself.
shapeswentagain 1 year ago
@shapeswentagain I personally don't care what Pinoncelli thought about anything. But he did the right thing in pissing in the urinal because that is all it is, a simple urinal. Duchamp obviously made a replica in order to maximize his profits; if the thought was revolutionary then why would he have to make copies? I take seriously most people who make exagerated claims which don't match with reality. Con-artists and fanatics.
beradification 1 year ago
@beradification Duchamp never called the urinal art. Upon its first display, there was a disclaimer stating that it was in no way, shape, or form a work of art. Duchamp didn't like art, which is ironic because he was quite good at it. Nude Descending a Staircase is quite a piece to see. Personally, I loathe the conceptual art of the present, but I like Duchamp. The Fountain is a testament to the idiocy of curators and their willingness to cash in on anything. Duchamp was intelligent for sure.
shapeswentagain 1 year ago
@shapeswentagain Whatever he calls it, it took on qualities which he professes to stand against.
So why didn't he just speak against bad and pointless productions without producing them? He was obviously in it for money and notoriety.
beradification 1 year ago
@beradification I have to disagree. I would say 99% of Duchamp's career was a search. He first mastered Impressionism, Cezanne-ism, Cubism, etc. Then he abandoned the "retinal" for the conceptual. Good art has ideas. But he was still lost in how to execute. The Fountain is just a test for me. He played with ideas to no avail until he "quit" art to play chess. After 25 years, he made one undeniable piece, Etant Donnes, binding the power and beauty of his first period with the ideas of the next.
shapeswentagain 1 year ago
@beradification What today's conceptual artists don't realize that Duchamp ultimately understood is that art needs ideas and power, beauty and mystery. Today's crowd would rather just throw around some pseudo-ideas and discard the rest. It took Duchamp a lifetime, but he ended with a meticulously crafted masterpiece, Etant Donnes. If you ever go to Philly, you should see it, even if just to prove me wrong. I applaud his long term career for the mini rebellions leading up to the brilliant finish.
shapeswentagain 1 year ago
nimporte quoi aussi laid que ce soit aussi indifferent que ce soit deviendra beau et joli après 40 ans, vous pouvez êtes tranquille" ^^
trojanlol 1 year ago
ES NECESARIO UNA TRADUCCION AL CASTELLANO.
lusewicz 1 year ago
How Duchamp fooled the French into believing he was great is beyond me. Shame on France for celebrating such a stain on 20th century thought.
beradification 1 year ago
@beradification HAH! He "fooled" more than the French you idiot. He shaped 20th century thought all over the world. Maybe you should rethink the historical context of the movement he was involved in. Then you would realize it is rather analogous with humanities thoughts and feeling after the first World War. So shame on you for speaking about things you know nothing about.
climbaesthetic 1 year ago
@climbaesthetic It sounds like you plagiarized that from a New York times article. He might have influenced stalinism, but that's it. He isn't a great thinker or a great anything, just a fraud.
beradification 1 year ago
conscience!!!
doctorhiguita 1 year ago
confuso e inexplicable para entender en latinoamerica.
camiEntras 1 year ago
hey
sheba021 if you can make money putting a urinal into an art show, WHY WOULDNT YOU?
hahaha its hilarious. i love dada
pAnic20059 1 year ago
Il caro buon vecchio Duchamp, artista DETERIORATO per eccellenza.
31122051 1 year ago
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emidore 1 year ago
and is anarchy!
marcel duchamp is a genius
BuLLanTiFa 2 years ago
Yes, Duchamp is indeed one of the most influential artists of all time. He showed a school of other largely talentless "artists" how to make large sums of money with very little effort.
sheba021 2 years ago
@sheba021 "make large sums of money with very little effort." don't know what your talking about, most artists can't make a living out of their art.
almanacofsleep 1 year ago
his english gets really bad near the end
billheartyface 2 years ago
Wow... he had a lot of freckles, didn't he? He's one of the best parts of studying modern art. He always makes me laugh.
canadarox14 2 years ago
Hey, did you know theres a retrospective of Nat Finkelsteins work (featuring Duchamp) from 20th Jan - 14th Feb at a gallery in London called IDEA GENERATION you should check it out! :-)
MsNatFan 2 years ago
dope
outlier56 2 years ago
GENIUS!!!
puskaradiolove 2 years ago 3
placed into my playlist of Marcel Duchamp, thanks
meesterschilders 2 years ago
genius
questacris 2 years ago
Marcel Du cheat!!!
oualiart 2 years ago
Duchamp was probably the most intelligent of all artists during the 20th century - a real genius !
SiriusRKW 2 years ago 23
@SiriusRKW I disagree, I think it is clear that he was not a top rate artist, for instance, he once tried making a chess set, but could not fabricate the most difficult pieces- the knights- so he had a workmen make them. He was essentially talentless so he made up pranks to perform that don't have any lasting effect. If you want an artist of genius in the 20th century that would have to be Dali. He was extraordinary at painting, drawing and performances and created works of unique style.
beradification 9 months ago
@beradification Uh....(Duchamp) "didn't have any lasting effect"? You might need to re-think this statement. Although I love Dali, I will be the first to admit that Dali would not have had a career if it wasn't for R. Mutt.
ScottMasson 7 months ago
@SiriusRKW I dont care for Art it has been totally discredited I want to get rid of it! I wish people today got the memo. NEWS FLASH. Art is Dead. It died in 1924, when the DaDa's declared it's death. Who are these so called artists today trying to fool? Some of us know 20th century European history, all though its not taught in the schools anymore so that's probably a contributing factor..
jeancocteau1 7 months ago
@SiriusRKW I'd say during all history of art ;)
annette37a 3 months ago
@SiriusRKW I thought about these things maybe when I was 4. There is no genius.
rlevanony1 1 month ago
I wish someone would subtitle the french part.
Neptunade 2 years ago 4
chess
steevestuff 2 years ago
I like but I choose information about The large glass
Ilean33 2 years ago
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..unnecessary adoration of duchamp today...
ersonoro 2 years ago
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lloplop 2 years ago
duchamp is an art genius!!!!!!!!
babalas911 2 years ago 2
That's such an ironic statement.
Euroflounder 2 years ago
nah.
howcynicalofme 2 years ago
Wouldn't calling him that make him roll in his grave?? He's the anti-artist!
christopheye 2 years ago 2
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fuck duchamp
cronicadelojo 2 years ago
He would probably love to hear you say this!
codecxo 2 years ago 5
in fact you are right
cronicadelojo 2 years ago 3
i need mooore!!
boogiebuddy01 3 years ago
I can't download this! :((((
peeedja 3 years ago
i dont understand a sh** of his french talking, but i love to see and hear him
overkill99999 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this, even.
doublevelvet 3 years ago
Can someone tell me the title of this documentary? Thanks.
vladjes 3 years ago
the fountain is my favorite piece.
jamesmarchii 3 years ago
me too. it changed everything.
lloplop 3 years ago
for the worse, now we have no talent tossers like martin creed and mark leckey.
spaced9999 3 years ago
no talent? it must be horrible to be so limited.
lloplop 2 years ago
@lloplop really? you feel Duchamp had no talent? explain please.
bluhousworker 2 years ago
no no I was responding to someone! Duchamp is high on my list of most influential artists of all time!
lloplop 2 years ago