stupid people have stupid kids. it's like if you get too golden labradors they have puppies you expect the puppies to be German shepherds of course not going to be golden labradors
First question: I draw the line between the parental actions defined as one and the other as shown by good judgment, or more effective, the solid evidence.
nobody thought that the kids maybe deserved that punishment? maybe she was close to home and it was a neiborhood where usually the kids go out alone anyway. I don't like fox news but I don't see the problem here...
Or until some scum bag that you publicly defended was out on the streets and picked up one or both of the daughters she kicked out of the car and potentially harmed the girls. I do believe that Gretchen misspoke and obviously would have made a much better parenting decision than the mother who neglected her children.
I don't think this woman intentionally or deliberately endangered her child. And I understand the "getting caught" thing. A lot of people would get in serious trouble if they were caught giving rather light discipline to their children.
Every year the majority of child abuse victims and child murder victims are abused or murdered by... their mothers. We can't stop the problem as long as it is forbidden to truthfully discuss this and the fact that the domestic violence industry orchestrates and drives this, yet appeals to us for more funding so they can "save the children."
(continued from other comment) The parent should sit the kid down, explain to them why they are getting punished and then do the punishment (or the other way around if the kid is being impossible). Just hitting the child is not okay, you should talk to them about what they're doing wrong so they can avoid doing it again later.
I think a few swats to their bums to set them straight is okay as long as the parent only uses their hand. Anything other than spanking is not cool with me, and the spanking should only be used as a last resort. Slapping them on their face or any other part of their body except for their bums is wrong. To me, hitting them anywhere else is disrespectful. Don't ask me why though, lol. (continued in other comment)
i don't know if i believe hitting young boys is wrong. i mean they will not stop climbing on top of your head until you slap them or something (some of them). i don't have experience with with young girls.
but they're just little monkeys. not only is it natural to hit your kids, but they might grow up with psychological problems if you don't. i don't know of studies though, so i'm just talking out my ass.
Attacking people for your own petty reasons is bad enough, but doing it with a subject as awful as child abuse, all this tells me is that you put attacking your own petty rivals over protecting children. That's what is more important to you. You just don't get it. Your priorities are all screwed up.
Do you think it is possible you could clip that any tighter? Talk about taken out of context. I could take this video, and clip out four seconds of you saying half a sentence and make it appear you are saying the opposite of what you are really saying, too. Wow. This is pure garbage, you know that?
So she like left them at the the side of the road and drove off to scare them? That's normal parenting... Unless she was like 4 hours gone. Shock-therapy is **occasionally** necessary for children.
my mom actually agreed with the women in the video (not the fox girl the one who left her childre on the street) she was like maybe the kids were asking for it and the kids drove her to it or made her crazy enough to do it. I could definetly see my mom do wht that woman did... its wayy to much like her for comfort
My personal child abuse and endangerment line is drawn at one of three things: A. When what you're doing becomes less about discipline and more about relieving your own anger or stress and it's a long-standing pattern. B. When the vast majority of the attention you pay your kids is to discipline them. C. When your brand of discipline and parental rule is apt to substantially retard their growth.
Spanking and Abuse are two different things. when someone says spanking they mean a few hits on the back side or on the inside of the hand, ( lots of nerve ending and very hard to do any real damage). abuse is the willful infliction of punishment for your own reasons. spanking is an educational tool, abuse is someone attacking those that can't defend themselves.
As far as physical abuse goes, I'd say reddening is not abuse, and bruising, burning, or wounding is. That lets you say, spank a child, without allowing beating a child, and provides a rather sharp and observable dividing line as to the level of damage.
No doubt of course this is full of other gaps that would need closed, and a portion of it will always be a judgment call. Also this can only be a physical guideline, obviously the standard for mental abuse will be much trickier.
@mainestategop and what the fuck who cares what gretchen carlson thinks i mean shit dude what is she supposed to be god or something honestly your whole video seems like the kids in school that used to go oooooooo im telling your in trouble dude grow up.
this is taken the wrong way.you took this comment out of context, as expected. the dude talking must not know what raising kids is like. i understand the mom was frustrated and should have handled it differently. why dont you be in a car with fighting kids instead of your wife and see how you handle it. granted she was wrong, but she didnt beat them or kill them. find something else to knit-pick.
The lady should not face serious charges, getting handcuffed was enough of a sign that she was wrong. Yet i would never use such a pathetic tactic. the child could of got hit by a car, kidnapped, attacked by an animal, or even ran away. If i was the child i would of hid somewhere and watch my parent trying to find me.
Regardless, there are way worst people out in the world than this mom.
I find it disturbing that people insist they're better people for having been abused as children.
I was spanked as a child as a form of punishment, and I grew up to resent my father for engaging in such physical violence, more so because it essentially had no effect on my abilities in regards to determining right and wrong.
I have two children of my own now, and neither myself nor my wife have ever raised a hand to them. Guess what? They are capable of determining right from wrong. Go figure.
The reason that what this woman did can be considered child abuse/endangerment is because she left her young children on the streets of New York. This might not be such a big deal in some small town, but in New York there are some pretty dangerous people and those kids could have been kidnapped. It was a good thing the girl knew what to do and went to the police station, which can be considered as one of the safest places in such a situation.
It is really ridiculous to bring up a bubble-headed Fox journalist as the core of the issue here. I don't believe in spanking my daughter. But I was spanked for doing things that put my life in danger---running across the street before looking, etc. So I see both sides. Very difficult to judge somebody who uses corporal punishment in certain situations. I also was a teacher, and was against corporal punishment. NO WAY do you allow teachers to have that reign. It's up to the parents.
There's a fine line between discipline and abuse. My parents got me with a belt whenever I stepped out of line, and guess what, I learned a lesson and never did it again.
I see nothing wrong with what she did. My parents did much worse and I am a better person than most bratty kids today. Whats wrong today is too much leniency. Kids should be ruled with an iron hand.
Violence should be a last resort always, if this isn't how the parent acts then the child won't learn it.
And wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where that statement of hers made sense, we could all kill people and it would be fine as long as we ran off in time.
i think the wording "serious physical injury" is very bad. Use of physical force on one's kids should never pose a risk of *any* injury... but inconsequential pain or discomfort.
yes, drawing the line is tough for every parent. and I think I can say, I would have to be there when that woman tossed her kids out of the car before I could pass judgment.
@LiberalViewer: You're absolutely right. Our culture does not recognize the full personhood of children, which is why we have to debate about the line between permissible parenting & child abuse. Whatever would harm an adult - such as abandoning him/her in the middle of the road - should be deemed child abuse.
Look, there's a difference between necessary discipline and child abuse, leaving your children in the middle of New York, is child abuse. Spanking your child for mouthing off or breaking stuff on purpose is necessary discipline.
This is what i know.. My dad kicked my ass when i was out of line, and my childhood friend recieved the same treatment.. we both are living successful, happy lives. My cousin, who's parents never punished him for anything, is now serving a 25 year sentence for mid-level narcotic trafficing(cocaine) in Ely, NV max security prison. it seems that this pattern is standard, almost across the board.... (continued)
... I dont think hitting a child in the face is ever fair, Nor is putting your child in danger, like leaving them on the street - that is just idiotic. But a few good smacks on the ass, leaving a mild sting.. It makes a difference.. it was the only thing that really put me in check as a child. I had 5 sisters, and i was the only boy.. and i was pretty wild. but my father always knew when enough was enough, and he straigtened me out. There is a difference between Abuse, and Punishment.
I completely disagree with Gretchen Carlson. If a person is going to do something stupid enough to where they can't find their children, they should be caught. I don't agree with any kind of physical or emotional punishment. I don't spank my daughter. I've never ridiculed her either. I just tell her to stop when she is doing something she shouldn't be, and as soon as possible I talk to her until I find out what is bothering her. Kids act out when something is wrong - just like adults do.
How do I draw the line? Hmmm...Well, first, I don't know enough about this case to say whether or not this was abuse. If mom forced those kids out of her car in a ghetto or on the freeway or in another place where it is reasonable to assume they would be in danger, then yes it was abuse. But if not, and they only had to walk 3 miles...sorry, not abuse. As for me, I don't spank. I never felt good about it and you know what? It doesn't work, anyway.
I think that there is some physical punisment that must be legal. I mean we have after all evolved to respond to it effectively. I'd dread the day kids learn that they arent allowed to be caused pain by their parents. If they learn its all just words and shouting then you have nothing to wager against them.
Only in this country parents are not allowed to be parents. Try SouthAmerica, where we fear our parents more than any police and the average family has 4 children! Yet, we don't become drug addicts, nor alcoholics and we love and respect our parents. In the US, kids get arrested and sent to jail at 13 years old!! but parents are sent to jail if they "spank" or "slap" their kids in public, if they get "caught". That's Fucked up!!
No, I didn't. Of course there is drug addiction & alcoholism everywhere, however, I was referring to the majority of the masses, the middle class & high class for the SIMPLE reason that there are no Welfare benefits in So.America, No free housing nor foodstamps, therefore YOU HAVE TO WORK & FUNCTION in order to earn income to FEED yourself &your familes, wife, kids and parents, We, spanish ppl keep our elderly grandparents and parents in our home. We don't send them away to nursing homes.
Continued...So our responsibility to support our family is greater, therefore we are less likely to fall for drug or alcohol addiction. Also the fact we feel loved & are surrounded & in close contact with our mother, dad grandparents, aunts, uncles & cousins, makes us less likely to suffer from depression which leads to drug and alcohol addiction. Too many ppl in the US feel lonely due to the lack of bonding with their mother, father,etc. so they use drugs to cover their pain and loneliness.
You know, I found that in the Spanish culture hugs virtually replace a handshake, I've never been given a handshake by a Spanish woman, always a hug. Usually for the guys too.
Around here it's almost as if people have a thing against physical contact except with their family or significant other. Kind of makes me envious! :P
hugs with strangers are stupid and idiotic. even when I found myself doing that, I was like what? hug for people you love not people you like or just met. argue all you want. well if they had lice or hepotitus or some other skill disease. you might get it by hugging them. besides the negative energy they transfer to you. I say, robber gloves hand shake will surfice.
Some morons decided to spell it Hepatitis, and yes it is air borne virus & some strains are deadly & have no cure. And yes you can get it by somebody just breathing in front of you. And many other such diseases exist. And yes evil people and sick people also have negative energy which if you touch them you can get also. Some want to call it Karma. What is funny? You are obviously ignorant. Sitting and watching TV all day messed up your brain.
And which Hepatitis are you talking about exactly? A and B are neither easily transferable by breath, almost all are caused by liquid, poorly handling food or drink typically.
C is similar, but even harder catch in breath, not airborne. But there is like a dozen different non-related viruses that can cause hepatitis, some of which definitely are airborne. No "negative energy" though, that'd be the Nocebo effect. And I'm definitely not ignorant.
You can get Hepatitis & TB & many other diseases from somebody's breath. And one wonders why the Nocebo effect makes people sick, maybe it was transfer of negative energy? That is what I think. I know this from personal observation. Even trains that are electricly charged, somebody can sit on the chair or touch the pole and get electricity. A lot scientists have no discovered yet.
If you get sick because someone gave you a hug you probably would have gotten sick if they were talking to you. Your point is fairly moot.
Why would we use a story that has no evidence like negative "energy" being transfered when we have a perfectly good, and evidenced, explanation of the placebo/nocebo effect?
One has a scientific backing, one is what someone thinks. Sure, there's lots of stuff we haven't discovered yet, how is that pertinent?
I am a spiritual healer. I can heal people just by being around them and shaking their hand or touching their shoulder. Most priests touch the head of a person and bless them. Same idea. If you have people with good energy they can actually heal people. Same but opposite bad energy can sicken people. The way I explain the placebo & nocebo effect is that fact that these people were around sick people & came in contact with them, energy can transfer. Small electric gadgets work on energy of body.
If you're perseptive to that kind of thing their mood can be transfered to you, yes. It rubs off so to speak. Same can happen with headaches, if someone around you has a really bad headache, or really sore legs or something and it's causing them anguish I find that some people can pick up on it without knowing.
But that's got nothing to do with energy. People constantly misuse the word energy, it already has a perfectly understood meaning, find your own word. Use mojo or something.
OK at least you understand what I am saying and observed some of it. But the correct word is energy & it is something that you consume; it could be electricity for your computer or TV etc. or it could be oil to run a car, or it can be food to run a human body. Either way, it is energy that is stored in people. When somebody is sick; the illness itself has energy signature if you want or type. Like smells of different fruits or the smell of leaves. I can smell & taste things & know what they heal
Energy is literally the ability to perform a kind of work. Take a ball for instance, pick it up. If it weighs one lb and you picked it up to an elevation 5 feet higher then were it started you excerted 5 foot-lbs of force. If you drop it it will release that energy as it falls back to it's original elevation. Or it will release more energy it if falls below it's original elevation
I can also feel an energy & recognize its origin & nature. Some people are good at hiding their evil energy. I did not know but I think they had experience with intuitive people or more correctly call it people who can feel other people's energy, they recognize their are evil, then they go at great length to hide it & it works, but then I realize it later on. They are ashamed of their evil energy; they born with it or pick it up. I never went into detail to study it. I know I have healing energy
You are soooo right!!! my exhusband was very good at hiding his evilself! I was too young to know and to be honest, I don't belive I can tell when ppl lie. He was the Master Pathological Liar! Alcoholic & drug addict, however I didn't know he was doing the drugs! That was a Schock!! I wonder Why evil ppl seek good ppl to be with? He refused to divorce,etc. but he never broke me nor changed my happy disposition. ~I'm just more cautious now~ You are also right, he was ashamed of himself.
But it is not exactly all good energy; it is like energy of alcohol; it destroys disease. So it is kind of a destroying energy that goes after evil energy or sanitizes it. I need to study more how it works. Some of it is discussed in exorcisms how the priest needs to keep strong energy to defeat the demons & cast them out of a person.
What you need to realize is that most people who get sick & have a problem fighting disease have a bad energy to begin with (some call it a weak body) I call it a body filled with negative energy. When that person comes near you, it is not even just the disease but also their negative energy that can affect you.
@mayabelldotcom Yes, indeed. If a person is chronically ill they have a problem, usually it's malnutrition. I've actually gone through this myself, eating nothing but restaurant food for 7 weeks for the last 2 weeks and a few weeks after I was sick constantly, and I normally have a phenomenal immune system.
But not everyone is effected by mood so intensely, you have to be perceptive to it and not know how o shut it out. I'm not perceptive to mood to begin with, lucky me.
People get sick cuz their immune system is low. I almost never get sick, when every1 around me has the flu I take soup to them and don't get sick. (My soup rocks!) Maybe my good nutrition? exercise? Love I feel for others? Maybe a combination of Positive Energy and Vitamin C, Ha ha ha!Well, my point is I don't get sick from hugging nor kissing ppl :) now drinking from some1 elses glass, that's another story.
I believe in positive and negative energy, however, if you are a STRONG person and choose to put out Love and "positive energy", it will come back to you 10x fold :)
It depends on the situation. You don't Love ppl u just meet as u love your parents, but shouldn't u learn to love humans in general so we made this a less hateful world? (Skin disease is easier to be transferred by shaking hands than by hugging- ur clothing is touching other clothing when u hug). ~Negative Energy?~ ha ha ha. You need "rubber" gloves over ur head! LoL
You are right Taira! When I first came to the US, I kissed on the cheek everyone I was introduced to, as it is in my country. Every1 said: "how sweet". People have become distant here and so have I. Now, when I 'm in a social setting I've began to a "sof t kiss" on the cheek and/or a hug. Many eruopeans in my country as well as here, continue their "2cheek" kiss custome and it's just fine with me. ~ Human Contact has been proven to be essential for a healthy &Happy development in babies.
Continued..Human Contact and affection have also been linked to release endorphins, the healing,happy "Feel good" Hormones, which have endless benefits mental as well as physical.
~Growing up, the 4 of us kids and our parents kissed each other with a "good morning kiss" as well as greeting ea othe when we came home from school & goodnite kiss~ This not only made us "feel good" but this affection reinforced our human and family bond.~Wouldn't it be nice to bond with others as well? <3
the lady committed child endangerment and neglectful abuse to her children. parents should NEVER be abusive to their kids. never hit, punch, kick, slap or use hard, blunt objects to hit kids like belts, whips, bat, pipe, branch, heel shoes, wooden or metal objects, no burning or cutting. thats CHILD ABUSE aka torture. parents shouldnt insult, bully or tease kids to the extent of lowering self-esteem because that psychological abuse and emotional abuse. all abuse is mental and hard to recover.
@TheLifeofB no thats not true. i live there. the kid was taken by a nice stranger to an icecream store. then that person called the police. they didnt walk 3 miles!
To be honest, I think it would be easier to park and slap the bastards. Less trouble. (By the way anyone who uses the "you shouldn't slap kids arguement," has never been slapped. It isn't that bad.)
the mom probably just got fustrated but still she should have not done that.. that was wrong because anything can happen in a second you should take care ofl your children when they are safe its not the kids fault that the mom cant control over them
If your child ran into the street or tried to play with the stove or something unsafe after you tried to teach them not to without a swat, I believe a damn SWAT might make them remember next time. Would you rather have them really hurt or worse?
My psychology class taught me that physical punishment is difficult to implement correctly because it's easy to abuse.
And besides, smacking/spanking/slapping/hitting a child's primary goal is to ease the frustrations of the parent. It's dangerous because the kids could then refocus that anger or aggression on things smaller than them, such as a pet or a younger sibling. Children mimic their parents.
In THEORY, the difference between proper parenting and child abuse is the long term effect. Slapping or spanking your child can teach him or her to respect authority, to be modest and to deal with minor physical pain. It also relieves the parent from having to spend lots of time and energy trying to convince the child that what he or she has done is wrong, when a quick spanking can be a lot faster and more effective, until the child is old and reasonable enough to distinguish right from wrong.
@Ian7570 She didnt knock the crap out of anyone. She set her kids out of the car. and my mother did the same thing, and we are better people than todays brats.
@Ian7570 She didnt knock the crap out of anyone. She set her kids out of the car. and my mother did the same thing, and we are better people than todays brats.
Im 17... ive been slapped by my parents before for back talking and stuff like that.. I dont feel as if this is a form of child abuse.. it builds character
I wonder if the childs school is 3 mile away from there home?? I had the same treatment done to me by my parents. It made me realize to not argue in the car. I didn't know that it was illegal for a Mother to drop off her children 3 miles from home was illegal?? Is it the fact that she used this as a punishment make it illegal?? You also show your Lib bent noticed on this vid. I think you rather *get* Fox News then the real subject at hand.
okay, so, whats your stance on wooden spoons? I copped them. The belt? I copped that too. And verbal discipline, which borderlines on abuse also.
I'm a nurse and i have a daughter who i'm too soft on and I wish i had the heart to smack her but i don't. Coping as a parent is hard and your judgment becomes obscured at times.
I have lectured my child in a raised voice at length, and i bet she wishes she could get out of the car and walk.
Well, alright, I may have formulated myself a little arrogantly. Let me rephrase: I, who is by no means new to argumentation and political discussions, cannot think of a single argument in the defense of beating children that would not be shot down by the opposing side without them breaking a sweat.
This may just be my personal limitation as a debateur, though. Can anyone think of an argument in its favor?
Still, there are so many ways to discipline your kids other than smacking them and hoping it works. No child looks back on smacking as good times, nor, I suspect, does any parent. Parenting can be done without physical force. It really can.
But I see your point, I was being a little black and white.
i feel really bad for her kids the fuax nooz chick shes completely retarded in fact all the things i hate in life have to do with making kids into retards like this lady...hitting children is wrong period if your kids are raised well there is no need
I totally agree with her because shes beautiful..anything she says is right..no matter what..just like Obama supporters are blind to reality and facts..Im allowed to put my head in the sand like Democraps do
I am NOT a US Citizen, I am Welsh, and so, I do follow the US news on both sides ( DEM + REP ) and I would be interested to know how you can say that when certain channels such as Fox, clearly lie about anythign and everything.
It baffles me, but then I dont live in the US and so I am not subjected to US lies either.
Id like to know seriously and not have an arguement about it if you could possibly humour me?
I would guess most abuse is a parents attempt at "discipline" but done completely wrong or taken way too far. I beleive its possible to raise well behaved children without hitting/spanking them. I beleive in raising kids to understand there are consequences for actions. A spank is usually done because the parent lost their temper. I am also aware that some kids are thicker than others and need a firmer scolding than others.
Spanking without being taken to "abuse" levels is fine. As u said, SOME KIDS need it. I was spanked only a few times, I learned my lessons. My brothers on the other hand... well, they got belted big time! Yes, they had to (thick headed). We turned out fine, and grateful to our Father for his ever discipline hand, and our mother for being our "defense" attorney and Affection giver. Its ABOUT BALANCE!!
In life you learn lessons and it is the parents job to provide a few. I am sure this woman decided "ok you two if you are going to fight you can do it without exposing others" just walk toward home and get it out of your system...work it out. I am sure she was devistated to have one of them run off. She got the lesson. Darn kid. Only a idiot would see a crime here. If anything the police should have had a talk with the child and the mother about running off and not listening to the mother.
That comment from Gretchen is ridiculous. If you have kids, you have to deal with them. You are the adult, you should be mature and set examples of how the kids should behave.
I draw the line at spanking. I believe spanking is wrong. How can you tell a child to use their words and to not hit others, but hit them if they don't listen? I was abused as a child, and maybe that is why I have such a strong opinion on the subject.
If it was "god"s" decision there wouldn't be any abuse. Teh teh teh " don't u think?... or maybe "god" would stop it... or maybe...make up another god. LoL
Satanic means related to Satan,the source of all evil to Christians,& gods right hand man in Judaism, there is a counter religion to Christianity called Satanism. I've met a couple of them there usually not bad people to be honest.
Try nuns making u stand in the corner of the class for the whole 45 minutes holding 3 books on each hand... and if I turned to giggle... more books were added..or being hit with a wooden ruler w metal edge on open hand nuckles.... THAT'S ABUSE!
@Isabelizza I've heard stories from others quite like yours. I completely agree - that's abuse! I still cannot understand why the nuns in schools were so terrible and mean in their discipline. It seems like they were doing everything a nun should be against. I really feel bad for people, like you, that had to go to schools like that.
"i went to catholic school, but im not catholic." "why arent you catholic?" ".....because, I went to catholic school." not my joke but i know its true.
You biased ass, you took her comment out of context. She was referring to the fact that because she got caught her story was in the mainstream and 'supposedly' the law and media would make sure her crime would not be overlooked.
This is really strange. I just had a conversation with my grandma and dad. They were talking about "The good old days" and how what was punishment back when my dad was a kid is now child abuse now. I think that the person being reprimanded should understand that what they did was wrong and if words don't work, then a firm hand should be used to make the connection a little clearer. I really hate being in walmart or somewhere and see someone hit their child, its just trashy.
Well, playing Devils advocate here, you have to deal with 2 little screaming monsters all the time. Father won't do anything, he just drinks and watches the game. If she talks out of turn, she earns herself a shiny new one. Soooo, who wouldn't drop their lil white kids off in Harlem at 2 in the morning to scare the lil wits out of them for misbehaving? I'm pretty sure when mom says shut up, they do now.
I mean, we can't spank our children now, how else? Time out doesn't do anything.
While I firmly believe government should have no say nor involvement in parenthood, there ARE perfectly inept & unresourceful parents demonstrating ass-backwards childraising.
There's no single way how to parent. Gov't has no jurisdiction here.
ok grumpiestporky's story raises questions, mostly cuz he was 6 and didnt mention being close to home. but a 10 yr old with a 12 year old, 3 miles from home, and how long could it take mom to circle the block. seriously. 12 year old kids ride their bikes around their neighborhood that far. what i dont understand is how one kid got picked up. did they separate? why? the behavior of the kids is fishy. they almost sound unintelligent. did one just stand there while the other walked off?
my mom drove off and left me once. I was born in 1960. I remember the one time, in particular, she did it several times. She left me in a toy store. I walked out with a stuffed lion that I had been bugging her about. maybe that is why she left me. i took the stuffed lion out of the store and walked down the center lane of a 4 lane, lets say, really buzy street, with this stuffed animal under my arm. I was 6 years old.. The Sheriff finally found me in the center devide, cowering... I
Are mock abandonments a good form of punishment? I tend to think not.
It happen to me. I started to walk home to see if my dad still wanted to keep me (many miles from home). My mom did not know where I was. Lucky for me a neighbor saw me on the street and took me home (otherwise I drought I would have made it). In the end it 'taught' her the lesson, not me.
stupid people have stupid kids. it's like if you get too golden labradors they have puppies you expect the puppies to be German shepherds of course not going to be golden labradors
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I know these people, and quite frankly it was all the mums fault. The eldest left the youngest alone in a dodgy area....
Georgie1126 2 weeks ago
Just take away their iPhone, that satisfies all of the definition.
iasedu 2 weeks ago
First question: I draw the line between the parental actions defined as one and the other as shown by good judgment, or more effective, the solid evidence.
Second question: No
GimmieUtoob 6 months ago
My god some of the comments here are rude!
Trund27 7 months ago
nobody thought that the kids maybe deserved that punishment? maybe she was close to home and it was a neiborhood where usually the kids go out alone anyway. I don't like fox news but I don't see the problem here...
dumbnetworks 7 months ago
Or until some scum bag that you publicly defended was out on the streets and picked up one or both of the daughters she kicked out of the car and potentially harmed the girls. I do believe that Gretchen misspoke and obviously would have made a much better parenting decision than the mother who neglected her children.
Stacyhannah1 9 months ago
Gretchen has only one use and the short skirt is all that covers the tools for that job
sol3a1 1 year ago
"...when I was a public defender... defending poor people accused of crimes..."
REALLY? Is your audience so stupid as to not know what a public defender is?
When I was a juggler, throwing balls in the air and catching them, that sounded a little stupid.
pburto 1 year ago
the mom should have gotten taken before a judge and reprimand and warning not to do that again
1961arnie 1 year ago
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I don't think this woman intentionally or deliberately endangered her child. And I understand the "getting caught" thing. A lot of people would get in serious trouble if they were caught giving rather light discipline to their children.
christo930 1 year ago
I don't think that there is anything wrong with smacking your children when they "misbehave".
votvilll1266 1 year ago
Some kids just need shot. Not all, not a lot. Getting caught stops a lot of parents from doing what is right.
mrzeegrr 1 year ago
Every year the majority of child abuse victims and child murder victims are abused or murdered by... their mothers. We can't stop the problem as long as it is forbidden to truthfully discuss this and the fact that the domestic violence industry orchestrates and drives this, yet appeals to us for more funding so they can "save the children."
addvoc8 1 year ago
(continued from other comment) The parent should sit the kid down, explain to them why they are getting punished and then do the punishment (or the other way around if the kid is being impossible). Just hitting the child is not okay, you should talk to them about what they're doing wrong so they can avoid doing it again later.
LiliFromHali 1 year ago
I think a few swats to their bums to set them straight is okay as long as the parent only uses their hand. Anything other than spanking is not cool with me, and the spanking should only be used as a last resort. Slapping them on their face or any other part of their body except for their bums is wrong. To me, hitting them anywhere else is disrespectful. Don't ask me why though, lol. (continued in other comment)
LiliFromHali 1 year ago
i don't know if i believe hitting young boys is wrong. i mean they will not stop climbing on top of your head until you slap them or something (some of them). i don't have experience with with young girls.
but they're just little monkeys. not only is it natural to hit your kids, but they might grow up with psychological problems if you don't. i don't know of studies though, so i'm just talking out my ass.
De4sher 1 year ago
what the heck
patylara23 1 year ago
You're an idiot. This post was completely pointless.
zelco99 1 year ago
Attacking people for your own petty reasons is bad enough, but doing it with a subject as awful as child abuse, all this tells me is that you put attacking your own petty rivals over protecting children. That's what is more important to you. You just don't get it. Your priorities are all screwed up.
coyotedkm 1 year ago
Do you think it is possible you could clip that any tighter? Talk about taken out of context. I could take this video, and clip out four seconds of you saying half a sentence and make it appear you are saying the opposite of what you are really saying, too. Wow. This is pure garbage, you know that?
coyotedkm 1 year ago
So she like left them at the the side of the road and drove off to scare them? That's normal parenting... Unless she was like 4 hours gone. Shock-therapy is **occasionally** necessary for children.
8DX 1 year ago
my mom actually agreed with the women in the video (not the fox girl the one who left her childre on the street) she was like maybe the kids were asking for it and the kids drove her to it or made her crazy enough to do it. I could definetly see my mom do wht that woman did... its wayy to much like her for comfort
Izorropirate 1 year ago
My personal child abuse and endangerment line is drawn at one of three things: A. When what you're doing becomes less about discipline and more about relieving your own anger or stress and it's a long-standing pattern. B. When the vast majority of the attention you pay your kids is to discipline them. C. When your brand of discipline and parental rule is apt to substantially retard their growth.
GnosticQuasar 1 year ago
That lady is a trouble-maker (The Villainess of crimes)
DannyLovesOregon 1 year ago
Spanking and Abuse are two different things. when someone says spanking they mean a few hits on the back side or on the inside of the hand, ( lots of nerve ending and very hard to do any real damage). abuse is the willful infliction of punishment for your own reasons. spanking is an educational tool, abuse is someone attacking those that can't defend themselves.
kyn28 1 year ago
As far as physical abuse goes, I'd say reddening is not abuse, and bruising, burning, or wounding is. That lets you say, spank a child, without allowing beating a child, and provides a rather sharp and observable dividing line as to the level of damage.
No doubt of course this is full of other gaps that would need closed, and a portion of it will always be a judgment call. Also this can only be a physical guideline, obviously the standard for mental abuse will be much trickier.
rkyeun 1 year ago
If you cant do it to an adult, you cant to it to a child.
I have no problems with being physical against a child. Picking up the screamer in the store, for then to carry the kid out.
speed1984 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Another out of context Video. and the liberals are going after Breitbart ...
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop wrote: "Another out of context Video. and the liberals are going after Breitbart"
Actually, Andrew Breitbart's webpage edited video out of context to materially change its meaning. See, eg, my video titled:
"Fox News Shirley Sherrod 2 Wrongs Make a Right Fallacy?"
In my video here, in contrast, the clip of Gretchen Carlson shows her full statement and my narration accurately provides the context.
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thanks 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago 11
@LiberalViewer Your very polite in shoveling away unwanted comments lol
Orangebike666 1 year ago
@mainestategop yeah what the fuck this isnt child abuse its just stupid
DemonosZXZ 1 year ago
@mainestategop and what the fuck who cares what gretchen carlson thinks i mean shit dude what is she supposed to be god or something honestly your whole video seems like the kids in school that used to go oooooooo im telling your in trouble dude grow up.
DemonosZXZ 1 year ago
@mainestategop You silly Conserative:P
yamasta103 6 months ago
@yamasta103 not silly enough to support a system that fails everytime.
mainestategop 6 months ago
this is taken the wrong way.you took this comment out of context, as expected. the dude talking must not know what raising kids is like. i understand the mom was frustrated and should have handled it differently. why dont you be in a car with fighting kids instead of your wife and see how you handle it. granted she was wrong, but she didnt beat them or kill them. find something else to knit-pick.
stew7479 1 year ago
The lady should not face serious charges, getting handcuffed was enough of a sign that she was wrong. Yet i would never use such a pathetic tactic. the child could of got hit by a car, kidnapped, attacked by an animal, or even ran away. If i was the child i would of hid somewhere and watch my parent trying to find me.
Regardless, there are way worst people out in the world than this mom.
Spartan404 1 year ago
I find it disturbing that people insist they're better people for having been abused as children.
I was spanked as a child as a form of punishment, and I grew up to resent my father for engaging in such physical violence, more so because it essentially had no effect on my abilities in regards to determining right and wrong.
I have two children of my own now, and neither myself nor my wife have ever raised a hand to them. Guess what? They are capable of determining right from wrong. Go figure.
SexedUpAtheist 1 year ago
Hitting verses Spanking is the difference!
sswiderski 1 year ago 4
@sswiderski Your comment confuses me because spanking is a subcategory of hitting.
colossus999 5 months ago
The reason that what this woman did can be considered child abuse/endangerment is because she left her young children on the streets of New York. This might not be such a big deal in some small town, but in New York there are some pretty dangerous people and those kids could have been kidnapped. It was a good thing the girl knew what to do and went to the police station, which can be considered as one of the safest places in such a situation.
PolishNomad95 1 year ago 2
It is really ridiculous to bring up a bubble-headed Fox journalist as the core of the issue here. I don't believe in spanking my daughter. But I was spanked for doing things that put my life in danger---running across the street before looking, etc. So I see both sides. Very difficult to judge somebody who uses corporal punishment in certain situations. I also was a teacher, and was against corporal punishment. NO WAY do you allow teachers to have that reign. It's up to the parents.
cesar1963able 1 year ago
There's a fine line between discipline and abuse. My parents got me with a belt whenever I stepped out of line, and guess what, I learned a lesson and never did it again.
jayers2 1 year ago
I see nothing wrong with what she did. My parents did much worse and I am a better person than most bratty kids today. Whats wrong today is too much leniency. Kids should be ruled with an iron hand.
NRAMimi 1 year ago
Marks equal you hit too hard.
Violence should be a last resort always, if this isn't how the parent acts then the child won't learn it.
And wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where that statement of hers made sense, we could all kill people and it would be fine as long as we ran off in time.
stathamajf 1 year ago
i think the wording "serious physical injury" is very bad. Use of physical force on one's kids should never pose a risk of *any* injury... but inconsequential pain or discomfort.
heloizyjhenifer 1 year ago
yes, drawing the line is tough for every parent. and I think I can say, I would have to be there when that woman tossed her kids out of the car before I could pass judgment.
nicholas9999 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer: You're absolutely right. Our culture does not recognize the full personhood of children, which is why we have to debate about the line between permissible parenting & child abuse. Whatever would harm an adult - such as abandoning him/her in the middle of the road - should be deemed child abuse.
yarafeld 1 year ago
wth. its the creepy man in saw
MrNikkfish 1 year ago
I like getting fucked
WKaliberr 1 year ago
what a sick statement, fucking loser, if she's a mother lets videotape her in the hopes of catching child abuse, FOX people make me sick
minaroar 1 year ago
WOW, i didnt know white people abused their children, i thought they just gave them a timeout.
confidentfella 1 year ago
Look, there's a difference between necessary discipline and child abuse, leaving your children in the middle of New York, is child abuse. Spanking your child for mouthing off or breaking stuff on purpose is necessary discipline.
Jarut195 1 year ago
fox news we beat children
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@gooddarkjedi Yeah, but they always give a fair and balanced beating.
TolpuddleMartyr 1 year ago
This is what i know.. My dad kicked my ass when i was out of line, and my childhood friend recieved the same treatment.. we both are living successful, happy lives. My cousin, who's parents never punished him for anything, is now serving a 25 year sentence for mid-level narcotic trafficing(cocaine) in Ely, NV max security prison. it seems that this pattern is standard, almost across the board.... (continued)
VegasGuns 1 year ago
... I dont think hitting a child in the face is ever fair, Nor is putting your child in danger, like leaving them on the street - that is just idiotic. But a few good smacks on the ass, leaving a mild sting.. It makes a difference.. it was the only thing that really put me in check as a child. I had 5 sisters, and i was the only boy.. and i was pretty wild. but my father always knew when enough was enough, and he straigtened me out. There is a difference between Abuse, and Punishment.
VegasGuns 1 year ago
Thank you Supreme Court!!!!
davisfleetwood 2 years ago
dont twist her words .....stupid hippie
dani828 2 years ago
I am so glad to see that I'm not the only one who detests Gretchen. Sometimes I am awed by her ridiculous comments.
Belloran24 2 years ago
I completely disagree with Gretchen Carlson. If a person is going to do something stupid enough to where they can't find their children, they should be caught. I don't agree with any kind of physical or emotional punishment. I don't spank my daughter. I've never ridiculed her either. I just tell her to stop when she is doing something she shouldn't be, and as soon as possible I talk to her until I find out what is bothering her. Kids act out when something is wrong - just like adults do.
1wildbanshee 2 years ago
How do I draw the line? Hmmm...Well, first, I don't know enough about this case to say whether or not this was abuse. If mom forced those kids out of her car in a ghetto or on the freeway or in another place where it is reasonable to assume they would be in danger, then yes it was abuse. But if not, and they only had to walk 3 miles...sorry, not abuse. As for me, I don't spank. I never felt good about it and you know what? It doesn't work, anyway.
DeathSnacker 2 years ago
madeline primoffs kids go 2 my school.
litterrobotmagic 2 years ago
What a dumb bitch
MerchantfromRE4 2 years ago
I think that there is some physical punisment that must be legal. I mean we have after all evolved to respond to it effectively. I'd dread the day kids learn that they arent allowed to be caused pain by their parents. If they learn its all just words and shouting then you have nothing to wager against them.
boorens18 2 years ago
Only in this country parents are not allowed to be parents. Try SouthAmerica, where we fear our parents more than any police and the average family has 4 children! Yet, we don't become drug addicts, nor alcoholics and we love and respect our parents. In the US, kids get arrested and sent to jail at 13 years old!! but parents are sent to jail if they "spank" or "slap" their kids in public, if they get "caught". That's Fucked up!!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
@Isabelizza
Did you just say that you don't have drug addiction or alcoholism on the continent of South America?
WeeWeeJumbo 2 years ago
No, I didn't. Of course there is drug addiction & alcoholism everywhere, however, I was referring to the majority of the masses, the middle class & high class for the SIMPLE reason that there are no Welfare benefits in So.America, No free housing nor foodstamps, therefore YOU HAVE TO WORK & FUNCTION in order to earn income to FEED yourself &your familes, wife, kids and parents, We, spanish ppl keep our elderly grandparents and parents in our home. We don't send them away to nursing homes.
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Continued...So our responsibility to support our family is greater, therefore we are less likely to fall for drug or alcohol addiction. Also the fact we feel loved & are surrounded & in close contact with our mother, dad grandparents, aunts, uncles & cousins, makes us less likely to suffer from depression which leads to drug and alcohol addiction. Too many ppl in the US feel lonely due to the lack of bonding with their mother, father,etc. so they use drugs to cover their pain and loneliness.
Isabelizza 2 years ago 7
You know, I found that in the Spanish culture hugs virtually replace a handshake, I've never been given a handshake by a Spanish woman, always a hug. Usually for the guys too.
Around here it's almost as if people have a thing against physical contact except with their family or significant other. Kind of makes me envious! :P
Tairaa2 2 years ago
hugs with strangers are stupid and idiotic. even when I found myself doing that, I was like what? hug for people you love not people you like or just met. argue all you want. well if they had lice or hepotitus or some other skill disease. you might get it by hugging them. besides the negative energy they transfer to you. I say, robber gloves hand shake will surfice.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
But they're happier! Hepititus? Lol
You might get a contagious disease by talking to them, too. Negative energy? lol
Mmkay, whatever you say. Too each his own I suppose.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
Some morons decided to spell it Hepatitis, and yes it is air borne virus & some strains are deadly & have no cure. And yes you can get it by somebody just breathing in front of you. And many other such diseases exist. And yes evil people and sick people also have negative energy which if you touch them you can get also. Some want to call it Karma. What is funny? You are obviously ignorant. Sitting and watching TV all day messed up your brain.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
And which Hepatitis are you talking about exactly? A and B are neither easily transferable by breath, almost all are caused by liquid, poorly handling food or drink typically.
C is similar, but even harder catch in breath, not airborne. But there is like a dozen different non-related viruses that can cause hepatitis, some of which definitely are airborne. No "negative energy" though, that'd be the Nocebo effect. And I'm definitely not ignorant.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
You can get Hepatitis & TB & many other diseases from somebody's breath. And one wonders why the Nocebo effect makes people sick, maybe it was transfer of negative energy? That is what I think. I know this from personal observation. Even trains that are electricly charged, somebody can sit on the chair or touch the pole and get electricity. A lot scientists have no discovered yet.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
If you get sick because someone gave you a hug you probably would have gotten sick if they were talking to you. Your point is fairly moot.
Why would we use a story that has no evidence like negative "energy" being transfered when we have a perfectly good, and evidenced, explanation of the placebo/nocebo effect?
One has a scientific backing, one is what someone thinks. Sure, there's lots of stuff we haven't discovered yet, how is that pertinent?
Tairaa2 2 years ago
I am a spiritual healer. I can heal people just by being around them and shaking their hand or touching their shoulder. Most priests touch the head of a person and bless them. Same idea. If you have people with good energy they can actually heal people. Same but opposite bad energy can sicken people. The way I explain the placebo & nocebo effect is that fact that these people were around sick people & came in contact with them, energy can transfer. Small electric gadgets work on energy of body.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
If you're perseptive to that kind of thing their mood can be transfered to you, yes. It rubs off so to speak. Same can happen with headaches, if someone around you has a really bad headache, or really sore legs or something and it's causing them anguish I find that some people can pick up on it without knowing.
But that's got nothing to do with energy. People constantly misuse the word energy, it already has a perfectly understood meaning, find your own word. Use mojo or something.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
OK at least you understand what I am saying and observed some of it. But the correct word is energy & it is something that you consume; it could be electricity for your computer or TV etc. or it could be oil to run a car, or it can be food to run a human body. Either way, it is energy that is stored in people. When somebody is sick; the illness itself has energy signature if you want or type. Like smells of different fruits or the smell of leaves. I can smell & taste things & know what they heal
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
@mayabelldotcom
Energy and eletricity aren't the same thing.
Energy is literally the ability to perform a kind of work. Take a ball for instance, pick it up. If it weighs one lb and you picked it up to an elevation 5 feet higher then were it started you excerted 5 foot-lbs of force. If you drop it it will release that energy as it falls back to it's original elevation. Or it will release more energy it if falls below it's original elevation
Tairaa2 2 years ago
I can also feel an energy & recognize its origin & nature. Some people are good at hiding their evil energy. I did not know but I think they had experience with intuitive people or more correctly call it people who can feel other people's energy, they recognize their are evil, then they go at great length to hide it & it works, but then I realize it later on. They are ashamed of their evil energy; they born with it or pick it up. I never went into detail to study it. I know I have healing energy
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
You are soooo right!!! my exhusband was very good at hiding his evilself! I was too young to know and to be honest, I don't belive I can tell when ppl lie. He was the Master Pathological Liar! Alcoholic & drug addict, however I didn't know he was doing the drugs! That was a Schock!! I wonder Why evil ppl seek good ppl to be with? He refused to divorce,etc. but he never broke me nor changed my happy disposition. ~I'm just more cautious now~ You are also right, he was ashamed of himself.
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Well, at least he had a conscience.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
But it is not exactly all good energy; it is like energy of alcohol; it destroys disease. So it is kind of a destroying energy that goes after evil energy or sanitizes it. I need to study more how it works. Some of it is discussed in exorcisms how the priest needs to keep strong energy to defeat the demons & cast them out of a person.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
What you need to realize is that most people who get sick & have a problem fighting disease have a bad energy to begin with (some call it a weak body) I call it a body filled with negative energy. When that person comes near you, it is not even just the disease but also their negative energy that can affect you.
mayabelldotcom 2 years ago
@mayabelldotcom Yes, indeed. If a person is chronically ill they have a problem, usually it's malnutrition. I've actually gone through this myself, eating nothing but restaurant food for 7 weeks for the last 2 weeks and a few weeks after I was sick constantly, and I normally have a phenomenal immune system.
But not everyone is effected by mood so intensely, you have to be perceptive to it and not know how o shut it out. I'm not perceptive to mood to begin with, lucky me.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
So true!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Hmmm... is that why everyone wants to be around me? Lmao!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
People get sick cuz their immune system is low. I almost never get sick, when every1 around me has the flu I take soup to them and don't get sick. (My soup rocks!) Maybe my good nutrition? exercise? Love I feel for others? Maybe a combination of Positive Energy and Vitamin C, Ha ha ha!Well, my point is I don't get sick from hugging nor kissing ppl :) now drinking from some1 elses glass, that's another story.
Isabelizza 2 years ago
I believe in positive and negative energy, however, if you are a STRONG person and choose to put out Love and "positive energy", it will come back to you 10x fold :)
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Yeah right? LoL
Isabelizza 2 years ago
It depends on the situation. You don't Love ppl u just meet as u love your parents, but shouldn't u learn to love humans in general so we made this a less hateful world? (Skin disease is easier to be transferred by shaking hands than by hugging- ur clothing is touching other clothing when u hug). ~Negative Energy?~ ha ha ha. You need "rubber" gloves over ur head! LoL
Isabelizza 2 years ago
You are right Taira! When I first came to the US, I kissed on the cheek everyone I was introduced to, as it is in my country. Every1 said: "how sweet". People have become distant here and so have I. Now, when I 'm in a social setting I've began to a "sof t kiss" on the cheek and/or a hug. Many eruopeans in my country as well as here, continue their "2cheek" kiss custome and it's just fine with me. ~ Human Contact has been proven to be essential for a healthy &Happy development in babies.
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Continued..Human Contact and affection have also been linked to release endorphins, the healing,happy "Feel good" Hormones, which have endless benefits mental as well as physical.
~Growing up, the 4 of us kids and our parents kissed each other with a "good morning kiss" as well as greeting ea othe when we came home from school & goodnite kiss~ This not only made us "feel good" but this affection reinforced our human and family bond.~Wouldn't it be nice to bond with others as well? <3
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Absolutely! I totally agree, I was born in the wrong part of the world I think. :P
Tairaa2 2 years ago
You're so sswweeeetttt!!! :D Besitos <3
Isabelizza 2 years ago
the lady committed child endangerment and neglectful abuse to her children. parents should NEVER be abusive to their kids. never hit, punch, kick, slap or use hard, blunt objects to hit kids like belts, whips, bat, pipe, branch, heel shoes, wooden or metal objects, no burning or cutting. thats CHILD ABUSE aka torture. parents shouldnt insult, bully or tease kids to the extent of lowering self-esteem because that psychological abuse and emotional abuse. all abuse is mental and hard to recover.
NOVAGIRL666 2 years ago
your whole comment is retarded. did you watch the full video? she didnt hit her kids. she made them walk 3 miles...
TheLifeofB 2 years ago
@TheLifeofB no thats not true. i live there. the kid was taken by a nice stranger to an icecream store. then that person called the police. they didnt walk 3 miles!
litterrobotmagic 2 years ago
What is that stranger was a pedophile?
Winter077 2 years ago
I've got 4 kids under the age of 9 and I never have hit them. Just look up child abuse deaths on here. Some people just cant draw the line.
creepster0602 2 years ago
Everyone hits there child even if it's a slap on the butt
rgz1985 2 years ago
I suggest to put the whole conversation in the clip, There is more statements made in this clip I see you pick and choose just like a Liberal viewer
bubba007ss 2 years ago
To be honest, I think it would be easier to park and slap the bastards. Less trouble. (By the way anyone who uses the "you shouldn't slap kids arguement," has never been slapped. It isn't that bad.)
imarealgamer 2 years ago
the mom probably just got fustrated but still she should have not done that.. that was wrong because anything can happen in a second you should take care ofl your children when they are safe its not the kids fault that the mom cant control over them
audrey956 2 years ago
the persons voice is getting annoying
daveyandmurphy 2 years ago
If your child ran into the street or tried to play with the stove or something unsafe after you tried to teach them not to without a swat, I believe a damn SWAT might make them remember next time. Would you rather have them really hurt or worse?
jolene99902002 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
it worked for me.
coffee396 2 years ago
nice vid!!
ajandlady 2 years ago
is leeza gibbons a man ?
cartonhead 2 years ago
My psychology class taught me that physical punishment is difficult to implement correctly because it's easy to abuse.
And besides, smacking/spanking/slapping/hitting a child's primary goal is to ease the frustrations of the parent. It's dangerous because the kids could then refocus that anger or aggression on things smaller than them, such as a pet or a younger sibling. Children mimic their parents.
Spectre39 2 years ago 2
In THEORY, the difference between proper parenting and child abuse is the long term effect. Slapping or spanking your child can teach him or her to respect authority, to be modest and to deal with minor physical pain. It also relieves the parent from having to spend lots of time and energy trying to convince the child that what he or she has done is wrong, when a quick spanking can be a lot faster and more effective, until the child is old and reasonable enough to distinguish right from wrong.
4StringPadawan 2 years ago
Right, we should teach children that violence is wrong by knocking the living crap out of them.
Ian7570 2 years ago 9
@Ian7570 She didnt knock the crap out of anyone. She set her kids out of the car. and my mother did the same thing, and we are better people than todays brats.
NRAMimi 1 year ago
@Ian7570 She didnt knock the crap out of anyone. She set her kids out of the car. and my mother did the same thing, and we are better people than todays brats.
NRAMimi 1 year ago
Im 17... ive been slapped by my parents before for back talking and stuff like that.. I dont feel as if this is a form of child abuse.. it builds character
kenstheman01 2 years ago
deserve a smack at 17 either get hit or get kicked out which one would you rather have.I'd rather get the smack.
jakechapy 2 years ago 2
but still, if ANYONE slaps me, ill slap them back.
FalzarGregar 2 years ago
I wonder if the childs school is 3 mile away from there home?? I had the same treatment done to me by my parents. It made me realize to not argue in the car. I didn't know that it was illegal for a Mother to drop off her children 3 miles from home was illegal?? Is it the fact that she used this as a punishment make it illegal?? You also show your Lib bent noticed on this vid. I think you rather *get* Fox News then the real subject at hand.
Tascopublicenemy 2 years ago
Dude, my parents just pulled over and wouldn't go anywhere until we shut up. They never just dumped us anywhere and made us feel abandoned.
Actions like that tend to backfire, for damn good reason too.
nosferotica1 2 years ago
My parents generation were allowed to virtually try anything with parent hood.
I can't do any discipline without feeling guilty about how the politically correct society might perceive me.
So it's the news reader whose an overpayed moron and i think the mum is a regular fair image of most (MOST) mums who lose it at times,
except a few that haven't lost the plot at their child(ren) due to a lack of brain activity or a lack of interest in life
yodelifyoucan 2 years ago
okay, so, whats your stance on wooden spoons? I copped them. The belt? I copped that too. And verbal discipline, which borderlines on abuse also.
I'm a nurse and i have a daughter who i'm too soft on and I wish i had the heart to smack her but i don't. Coping as a parent is hard and your judgment becomes obscured at times.
I have lectured my child in a raised voice at length, and i bet she wishes she could get out of the car and walk.
yodelifyoucan 2 years ago
even very slight physical force from parent can create extreme emotional distress in a child.
Unknnnnn 2 years ago
this is what i think abput the stupid statement!
everyone knows blondes are not dumb its just stupid people who happen to be blonde give blondes a bad name!
this bitch gives blondes a bad name! D:<
HTF says something soo stupid!
Vomitcake 2 years ago
Can anyone, in all honesty, cough up a descent argument for beating children? Anyone?
vegy08b06 2 years ago
i believe people shouldnt make arguments just for your enertainment! D:<
Vomitcake 2 years ago
Well, alright, I may have formulated myself a little arrogantly. Let me rephrase: I, who is by no means new to argumentation and political discussions, cannot think of a single argument in the defense of beating children that would not be shot down by the opposing side without them breaking a sweat.
This may just be my personal limitation as a debateur, though. Can anyone think of an argument in its favor?
vegy08b06 2 years ago
who said beating is akin to discipline? no-one, but smacking was acceptable last century?
Beating and smacking are as different as discipline and violence.
I care to see the point in a mother kicking her kids out and beating a child.
yodelifyoucan 2 years ago
Good point.
Still, there are so many ways to discipline your kids other than smacking them and hoping it works. No child looks back on smacking as good times, nor, I suspect, does any parent. Parenting can be done without physical force. It really can.
But I see your point, I was being a little black and white.
vegy08b06 2 years ago 2
i feel really bad for her kids the fuax nooz chick shes completely retarded in fact all the things i hate in life have to do with making kids into retards like this lady...hitting children is wrong period if your kids are raised well there is no need
orkasteez 2 years ago
nice theory, you must not have any kids.
And she didn't smack them, save your shame for those kids,
yodelifyoucan 2 years ago
I used to believe in spanking, but now that I have a child of my own, I can't imagine doing it. It just feels wrong.
Winter077 2 years ago
just wait.... LoL
Isabelizza 2 years ago
hahahahaha serves the bitch right, too bad the kid didnt get hurt really bad to teach that dumb bitch mom a lesson
ekimkcedar 2 years ago
Maybe what she meant was 'the law is an ass to get itself involved in such issues but, unfortunately, it is and so don't get caught'.
There is an argument that the police and law do far, far more damage than good.
katkinsful 2 years ago
I totally agree with her because shes beautiful..anything she says is right..no matter what..just like Obama supporters are blind to reality and facts..Im allowed to put my head in the sand like Democraps do
tinoker99 2 years ago
I am NOT a US Citizen, I am Welsh, and so, I do follow the US news on both sides ( DEM + REP ) and I would be interested to know how you can say that when certain channels such as Fox, clearly lie about anythign and everything.
It baffles me, but then I dont live in the US and so I am not subjected to US lies either.
Id like to know seriously and not have an arguement about it if you could possibly humour me?
Thank you.
FatRakoon 2 years ago 2
I agree. That is because logic people THINK! :)
Isabelizza 2 years ago
You're kidding, right?
KatRocks333 2 years ago
you should be hit with a plastic baseball bat to get your senses!
listen he's saying it was stupid!
obama has nothing to do with this okay?
Vomitcake 2 years ago
I like that u agree with any1 that's beautiful! I am, so u agree w me and I Love Obama!! Ha ha ha ha! I win!! YEAAAHHHH!!!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
maybe she was trying to get fired :S
coolbeens21 2 years ago
I would guess most abuse is a parents attempt at "discipline" but done completely wrong or taken way too far. I beleive its possible to raise well behaved children without hitting/spanking them. I beleive in raising kids to understand there are consequences for actions. A spank is usually done because the parent lost their temper. I am also aware that some kids are thicker than others and need a firmer scolding than others.
jmdnarri 2 years ago 3
Amen to that!
Vomitcake 2 years ago
Spanking without being taken to "abuse" levels is fine. As u said, SOME KIDS need it. I was spanked only a few times, I learned my lessons. My brothers on the other hand... well, they got belted big time! Yes, they had to (thick headed). We turned out fine, and grateful to our Father for his ever discipline hand, and our mother for being our "defense" attorney and Affection giver. Its ABOUT BALANCE!!
Love & Peace!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
fuck leaving them on the sidewalk, i would have just beat the shit outa them
hairymangina101 2 years ago
In life you learn lessons and it is the parents job to provide a few. I am sure this woman decided "ok you two if you are going to fight you can do it without exposing others" just walk toward home and get it out of your system...work it out. I am sure she was devistated to have one of them run off. She got the lesson. Darn kid. Only a idiot would see a crime here. If anything the police should have had a talk with the child and the mother about running off and not listening to the mother.
hdhighway 2 years ago
Excellent Comment! I concur.
Isabelizza 2 years ago
That comment from Gretchen is ridiculous. If you have kids, you have to deal with them. You are the adult, you should be mature and set examples of how the kids should behave.
I draw the line at spanking. I believe spanking is wrong. How can you tell a child to use their words and to not hit others, but hit them if they don't listen? I was abused as a child, and maybe that is why I have such a strong opinion on the subject.
thedestiney88 2 years ago 2
evangelicals rape little girls.
TranceID99 2 years ago 4
1. IDK!!!! case by case i guess.
2. For FoKKKs getting caught is ONLY a problem if there are sanctions, which there rarely are.
TranceID99 2 years ago
We need to make this crap stop. People who abuse should be locked up for the rest of they're lives. It is God's decision of what happens after that.
Quentindenny 2 years ago
dude, you play chainsaw games (look on his channel) so .... oh well, i guess you are old enough then. ;)
TranceID99 2 years ago
If it was "god"s" decision there wouldn't be any abuse. Teh teh teh " don't u think?... or maybe "god" would stop it... or maybe...make up another god. LoL
Isabelizza 2 years ago
Never mind any of that. I'd be nice if I, as a man, could get off scost free of a crime, just so long as I "stay out of trouble" for 6 months.
SpazzzDog 2 years ago
Actually harming children is against satanic law, sad Christians can't say the same thing.
yellowkrux 2 years ago
Not to sound stupid, but I'm only 11. (I watch these videos cause i want to learn how to help.) what does satanic mean?
Quentindenny 2 years ago 2
Satanic means related to Satan,the source of all evil to Christians,& gods right hand man in Judaism, there is a counter religion to Christianity called Satanism. I've met a couple of them there usually not bad people to be honest.
yellowkrux 2 years ago
You are thinking Catholic priests. Close though.
akinadownhillace 2 years ago
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Good one!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
well circumcision is definitely child abuse then
this shit don't fly
skywolf1969 2 years ago
Religious people love abusing Children. I remember being pumped full of fear of hell in Sunday school.
akinadownhillace 2 years ago 2
Try nuns making u stand in the corner of the class for the whole 45 minutes holding 3 books on each hand... and if I turned to giggle... more books were added..or being hit with a wooden ruler w metal edge on open hand nuckles.... THAT'S ABUSE!
Isabelizza 2 years ago
@Isabelizza I've heard stories from others quite like yours. I completely agree - that's abuse! I still cannot understand why the nuns in schools were so terrible and mean in their discipline. It seems like they were doing everything a nun should be against. I really feel bad for people, like you, that had to go to schools like that.
1wildbanshee 2 years ago
"i went to catholic school, but im not catholic." "why arent you catholic?" ".....because, I went to catholic school." not my joke but i know its true.
zenguyh 2 years ago
but it IS abuse! Only not in israel, america, and muslim countries, you know the really religous extremists cuntries...
TranceID99 2 years ago
You biased ass, you took her comment out of context. She was referring to the fact that because she got caught her story was in the mainstream and 'supposedly' the law and media would make sure her crime would not be overlooked.
FingerMagoo 2 years ago
This is really strange. I just had a conversation with my grandma and dad. They were talking about "The good old days" and how what was punishment back when my dad was a kid is now child abuse now. I think that the person being reprimanded should understand that what they did was wrong and if words don't work, then a firm hand should be used to make the connection a little clearer. I really hate being in walmart or somewhere and see someone hit their child, its just trashy.
jamesl08 2 years ago 2
Well, playing Devils advocate here, you have to deal with 2 little screaming monsters all the time. Father won't do anything, he just drinks and watches the game. If she talks out of turn, she earns herself a shiny new one. Soooo, who wouldn't drop their lil white kids off in Harlem at 2 in the morning to scare the lil wits out of them for misbehaving? I'm pretty sure when mom says shut up, they do now.
I mean, we can't spank our children now, how else? Time out doesn't do anything.
Pr0jectWeird1605 2 years ago
Im on the fence.
While I firmly believe government should have no say nor involvement in parenthood, there ARE perfectly inept & unresourceful parents demonstrating ass-backwards childraising.
There's no single way how to parent. Gov't has no jurisdiction here.
Efferts 2 years ago
These comments suck.
GibranisHardcore 2 years ago
ok grumpiestporky's story raises questions, mostly cuz he was 6 and didnt mention being close to home. but a 10 yr old with a 12 year old, 3 miles from home, and how long could it take mom to circle the block. seriously. 12 year old kids ride their bikes around their neighborhood that far. what i dont understand is how one kid got picked up. did they separate? why? the behavior of the kids is fishy. they almost sound unintelligent. did one just stand there while the other walked off?
lloe1 2 years ago
my mom drove off and left me once. I was born in 1960. I remember the one time, in particular, she did it several times. She left me in a toy store. I walked out with a stuffed lion that I had been bugging her about. maybe that is why she left me. i took the stuffed lion out of the store and walked down the center lane of a 4 lane, lets say, really buzy street, with this stuffed animal under my arm. I was 6 years old.. The Sheriff finally found me in the center devide, cowering... I
grumpiestporky 2 years ago
Are mock abandonments a good form of punishment? I tend to think not.
It happen to me. I started to walk home to see if my dad still wanted to keep me (many miles from home). My mom did not know where I was. Lucky for me a neighbor saw me on the street and took me home (otherwise I drought I would have made it). In the end it 'taught' her the lesson, not me.
TheVigilante2000 2 years ago