I worked here for two summers. My uncle was Norman Elmont, he ran the nightclub. Kenny Milgram you mentioned was my boss.....that place was so alive & hopping. Best summers of my life, so sad to see this, very disheartening.
The graffiti pisses me off. Why can't people just explore without leaving their mark or doing any futher damage. Nice video by the way, thanks for posting it.
Open graves where so many came, danced, laughed, cried and worked as a big family. No match 4 the lure of Atlantic City & Vegas casinoes once unhitched from the loyalty of fresh immigrants.The vagaries of capialism shrunk the ability of these resorts to sustain themselves.The cash flow to upkeep, let alone compete w/o gambling made the demise of these sanctuaries for ethnic souls a hard inevitability. Such will rise again reformed, from the ashes of the culturally solitary prisons wesubstituted
A Friend:Born Miami,conceived at The Pines & b/c of the familial hospitality of the Schweids & Ehrlichs, sojourned summers for 18 yrs. The skeletal hotel structures is akin to opening a crypt. The sights shock but are soon filled by a flood of luscious memories, time fades but cant erase. As individuals afforded less communal socializing, we abandoned the spiritual awakening & depth communing with nature, others, unlimited food and soulful entertainment can bestow,sunset cruising thecatskills.
I belonged to a group in the 1980's called Rainbow for girls. Everyyear we would have our convention here. Then in 1987, they said we wont be back here next year. We would use the Wedgewood room for our meetings I think, I know it was one of the nightclubs....such great memories....
There is no way these places will ever be the same. The blame goes to the state. Taxes are horrible and the government in NY is corrupt and anti business. They bully businesses out of the state and welcome third world people by the planefuls , while your taxes pay for it. It will never be the same. NY state government can attest to it.
@ezpickins626 It has zero to do with what you are talking about. Or to give you some credit, maybe a minute part of it. The reason why the resorts collapsed... is for dual reasons. One the changing of the times - plane tickets became much cheaper and other parts of the country became more easily accessible and affordable. The second reason is due to the closing of the direct railways which most people used to travel to the vicinity. The Catskills in general...were devastated.
I wish there was some way to renovate and repair all the damage. So it would become useful again. Hopefully somebody with a lot of money buys it and fixes it.
You didn't show the ice rink.I saw that in another video.They had neat pics from years ago and now,its sad.The pics from years ago looked so nice.I bet most of the people in those pics( 1950's / '60's) are dead now.
I'm very sorry that this happened to this place. I know what it is to see things how they used to be and then the very painful reality. It's terrible, like coming back from the dead and saying "what happened?".
What a depressing video. I spent so much time at the Pines. Seeing it like that makes it hard to believe all the great times. It will certainly be one big fire one day, vagrants, people who have nothing will destroy it. Even with the destruction, the area is still beautiful, hearing the birds in the background sounded like old times.
When this guy got to the nightclub ... I remembered my walk ... to the coffee shop ! Yes , I worked for Seymore ! LoL Sad to see all rundown ... pool still there !? Who remembers the coffee shop !?
wow so many years as a kid and a teenager- heck I used to work at the Concord Hotel college summers and we used to party at the Chalet....it does seem like the Titanic....
Good video! Reminds me of a hotel in my home town. Same deal it looks like the land that time forgot. It is nice to hear you edit this naming the different places. I'm sure it was hard for you......
That place would be so much fun to restore. Just cleaning out the shit, a lawnmower, some new paint, and maybe a couple hundred windows. it still looks savable. i hope someone does something before it turns into a pile of nothing like grossingers. Great video. I'd like to backhand these punks that like to destroy these places man.
i found a page using StumbleUpon with a whole bunch of artsy photos of the pines that captured it perfectly. it was once a very beautiful place and lots of childhood memories were made there that are still precious to this day, yet the place is dilapidated and dead.
fascinating. great video, nice to hear a personal account.
I will be the first to say that Sullivan county WAS many moons ago the MECA vaca spot... hotels... singers... golf! We had it all and SADLY enough, sorry BUT it must be said.... The summer people buy everything and well... ( No insult intended to anyone!) Airconditioning believe it or not alos helped the downfall. No need to travel for fresh country air folks! PS The owner live on the corne SOOO be careful next time you visit the ruins!
if there was gambling, name talent and they catered to the younger set, these places would still be open and people would be travelling back to upstate instead of going to vegas. any money-men with brains can see these places are ready to be remade for the new century!
OH! It´s a shame. A very big and beautiful hotel in the past, i see old pictures. Great video, man. I would see it very fain. But it´s a long way! I life in Germany ;-)
thanks for watching. It is a shame what the area allowed. This was way before the fiscal crisis and was allowed to fall for the last 25 years..Enjoy Orlando while you can,,
Thanks for sharing your exploration and sad to see its downfall. Living in Orlando, Florida it is hard to believe such a place is dead up there, even in this down economy they are still building resorts here, hard to imagine such a massive place is abandoned, what a waste.
Very Cool and great narration!! I worked for a real estate company in Manhattan. In 2007, I know there was a lot of talk about big investors looking to scoop up some of these abandoned catskill hotels for cheap, to hopefully get them going again. Now I know why the deals were always stalling. Images of these hotels are straight out the movies, especially apocalypse and war movies.
I wish I had 20 million to turn one of those into a house.
Did you use to go to this place when it was open? i have known of this place since 2002* i seen photos when it was in good condition (abandoned) sad to see it has gotten so bad burned twice and vandalised beyond, Allot of that is not vandalised its just falling apart, this place has not even been abandoned for 6-7 years and it looks worst then places i seen 20 plus years. it was remodeled to why is it so bad?
oh man i play paint ball there its um not to bad structualy but now i feel so bad i seem like this place was really nice i hope some day some one well fix this place
so you were part of that bunch that helped destroy the hotel..pretty discusting..hopefully someday, you'll learn to write english as well..next time read your comments before sending
I had stayed at a bungalow colony across from the pines most of my life and had worked at the Pines for many years..So when I went up there It was a tremdous depressing feeling..oh well, progress
Yes, very sad indeed. In 1990 I attended what was probably among the last 50's theme shows there at The Pines. I worked in the area as well during that time which gave me yet another perspective that made looking at the demise of resorts in that entire area a sad chapter in the Sullivan region.
Yes, that is a large part of the reason I left that county. I still live within driving distance and have returned to attend some concerts at the new Bethel Center for the Arts, but outside of that, the reasons remain few to want to go there other than to recall the times gone by.
I think there is going to be a lot more things like this to come.
ski resorts, malls, big box stores, Detroit, factories, mental hospitals, etc. with the advent of the internet, we really don't need these places anymore. But, for those of us there is the memories.
I think instead of trying "rid" the landscape of these, set up a small office on site, charge a small fee to enter (along with signing a legal release),provide a bathroom, etc. but don't change anything in the buildings.
sickening isn't it...
jevideo 1 month ago
I saw it lats summer...the indoor skating and pool have completely caved in and are gone...
BlaineTheLeafeon 1 month ago
I worked there many nights in the show band. What a shame ! I prefer to remember it as it was .
freddiejazz23 1 month ago
looks like some paintball games played there before
dshe05 2 months ago
I worked here for two summers. My uncle was Norman Elmont, he ran the nightclub. Kenny Milgram you mentioned was my boss.....that place was so alive & hopping. Best summers of my life, so sad to see this, very disheartening.
doubledee308 6 months ago
The graffiti pisses me off. Why can't people just explore without leaving their mark or doing any futher damage. Nice video by the way, thanks for posting it.
TheChuck624 8 months ago
Thanks
jevideo 9 months ago
thanks
jevideo 8 months ago
Nothing personal and all, I know it meant something to you, but the archtectual style, I don't think the place looked very good on it's best day.
1838lquinn 9 months ago
I guess bad management and signs of the times
jevideo 9 months ago
Open graves where so many came, danced, laughed, cried and worked as a big family. No match 4 the lure of Atlantic City & Vegas casinoes once unhitched from the loyalty of fresh immigrants.The vagaries of capialism shrunk the ability of these resorts to sustain themselves.The cash flow to upkeep, let alone compete w/o gambling made the demise of these sanctuaries for ethnic souls a hard inevitability. Such will rise again reformed, from the ashes of the culturally solitary prisons wesubstituted
raf12345tube 10 months ago
A Friend:Born Miami,conceived at The Pines & b/c of the familial hospitality of the Schweids & Ehrlichs, sojourned summers for 18 yrs. The skeletal hotel structures is akin to opening a crypt. The sights shock but are soon filled by a flood of luscious memories, time fades but cant erase. As individuals afforded less communal socializing, we abandoned the spiritual awakening & depth communing with nature, others, unlimited food and soulful entertainment can bestow,sunset cruising thecatskills.
raf12345tube 10 months ago
I belonged to a group in the 1980's called Rainbow for girls. Everyyear we would have our convention here. Then in 1987, they said we wont be back here next year. We would use the Wedgewood room for our meetings I think, I know it was one of the nightclubs....such great memories....
honnybun14220 11 months ago
GREAT VIDEO THANX FOR SPENDING THE TIME AND HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT WAS SO INTRESTING THEY JUST DONT MAKE THEM LIKE THIS ANYMORE !!!!!!!
dutyhole1734 1 year ago
How sad. Wish it could have been preserved.
laughinglady2009 1 year ago
is this the same hotel thats in the book Maus?
18kramer98 1 year ago
There is no way these places will ever be the same. The blame goes to the state. Taxes are horrible and the government in NY is corrupt and anti business. They bully businesses out of the state and welcome third world people by the planefuls , while your taxes pay for it. It will never be the same. NY state government can attest to it.
ezpickins626 1 year ago
@ezpickins626 You are so right
jevideo 1 year ago
@ezpickins626 People also rather vacation in Fla.,out west,Atlantic City and NYC too.Yes,this is depressing to see.
HattieLovesCattie 1 year ago
@ezpickins626 It has zero to do with what you are talking about. Or to give you some credit, maybe a minute part of it. The reason why the resorts collapsed... is for dual reasons. One the changing of the times - plane tickets became much cheaper and other parts of the country became more easily accessible and affordable. The second reason is due to the closing of the direct railways which most people used to travel to the vicinity. The Catskills in general...were devastated.
monstermash2011 1 month ago
I wish there was some way to renovate and repair all the damage. So it would become useful again. Hopefully somebody with a lot of money buys it and fixes it.
limeimac97776 1 year ago
I agree! hearing your own personal thoughts throughout the tour really brought the place to life more then any old pictures have.
Thanks for the great video!
xXxFreakkShoww 1 year ago
@xXxFreakkShoww Thank you!!!
jevideo 1 year ago
I hope that someday this type of vacationing would appeal to people again.
JORDANWASAGEM 1 year ago
You didn't show the ice rink.I saw that in another video.They had neat pics from years ago and now,its sad.The pics from years ago looked so nice.I bet most of the people in those pics( 1950's / '60's) are dead now.
HattieLovesCattie 1 year ago
Thanks for the narration. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts as a person who knew the place in its heyday. Beirut is a very good description!
zeporahjane1966 1 year ago 2
@zeporahjane1966 Thank you
jevideo 1 year ago
i bet that place is full of asbestos
WorldForeverChanged 2 years ago
You are probaley right
jevideo 2 years ago
Wow, thanks alot for this video. I've never been to the hotel, but it's just so sad seing it in this present state....
robicool 2 years ago
Thanks for your interest..Yea it was a sad site to see, I spent most of my childhood during the summers up there and worked there as well
jevideo 2 years ago
Wonder how they could just lock the doors behind them and leave such a beautiful hotel to just rot. That is so depressing :(
ciityinruins 2 years ago
what happened to this place? its beautiful destroyed though (in a good way)
XxJoe1792xX 2 years ago
I'm very sorry that this happened to this place. I know what it is to see things how they used to be and then the very painful reality. It's terrible, like coming back from the dead and saying "what happened?".
Thank you for the video.
9696286 2 years ago
i think we should buy this place and fix it up and have it all be new again. let me know if any one wants to. i am game
hotty44 2 years ago 8
none at this time, but there is a really good one on You Tube with music
jevideo 2 years ago
How do you get to this place?
Virochka 2 years ago
Any more videos from the Pines?
JustaCountryGirl1 2 years ago
What a depressing video. I spent so much time at the Pines. Seeing it like that makes it hard to believe all the great times. It will certainly be one big fire one day, vagrants, people who have nothing will destroy it. Even with the destruction, the area is still beautiful, hearing the birds in the background sounded like old times.
JustaCountryGirl1 2 years ago
Thanks for watching!! It wasn't pleasant taping it cause I grew up at the Pines and worked there for many years
jevideo 2 years ago
you worked for seymour?? When
jevideo 2 years ago
When this guy got to the nightclub ... I remembered my walk ... to the coffee shop ! Yes , I worked for Seymore ! LoL Sad to see all rundown ... pool still there !? Who remembers the coffee shop !?
superduck325 2 years ago
Chilling!!
jevideo 2 years ago
No, Nobody's home.... Just the ghosts of the past.....Just echo's somewhere in time!
ryannlag 2 years ago
wow so many years as a kid and a teenager- heck I used to work at the Concord Hotel college summers and we used to party at the Chalet....it does seem like the Titanic....
newyorkgal01 2 years ago
Good video! Reminds me of a hotel in my home town. Same deal it looks like the land that time forgot. It is nice to hear you edit this naming the different places. I'm sure it was hard for you......
LilAbproduction 2 years ago
Thanks for your comments. Yes it was difficult,, I grew up there and hated to see what I saw, Thanks again
jevideo 2 years ago
That place would be so much fun to restore. Just cleaning out the shit, a lawnmower, some new paint, and maybe a couple hundred windows. it still looks savable. i hope someone does something before it turns into a pile of nothing like grossingers. Great video. I'd like to backhand these punks that like to destroy these places man.
lt1fan94 2 years ago
totally agree, it will not become anything..they will knock it down
jevideo 2 years ago
i found a page using StumbleUpon with a whole bunch of artsy photos of the pines that captured it perfectly. it was once a very beautiful place and lots of childhood memories were made there that are still precious to this day, yet the place is dilapidated and dead.
fascinating. great video, nice to hear a personal account.
phishstyx1011 2 years ago
I will be the first to say that Sullivan county WAS many moons ago the MECA vaca spot... hotels... singers... golf! We had it all and SADLY enough, sorry BUT it must be said.... The summer people buy everything and well... ( No insult intended to anyone!) Airconditioning believe it or not alos helped the downfall. No need to travel for fresh country air folks! PS The owner live on the corne SOOO be careful next time you visit the ruins!
ryannlag 2 years ago
you are 100% correct but stupidity prevails
jevideo 2 years ago
if there was gambling, name talent and they catered to the younger set, these places would still be open and people would be travelling back to upstate instead of going to vegas. any money-men with brains can see these places are ready to be remade for the new century!
sickkat44 2 years ago
OH! It´s a shame. A very big and beautiful hotel in the past, i see old pictures. Great video, man. I would see it very fain. But it´s a long way! I life in Germany ;-)
Rupp1979 2 years ago
thanks for watching. It is a shame what the area allowed. This was way before the fiscal crisis and was allowed to fall for the last 25 years..Enjoy Orlando while you can,,
jevideo 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing your exploration and sad to see its downfall. Living in Orlando, Florida it is hard to believe such a place is dead up there, even in this down economy they are still building resorts here, hard to imagine such a massive place is abandoned, what a waste.
Gnr500 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments, there is no demand for this kind of entertainment and hotels anymore, the real estate up there is dead
jevideo 3 years ago
Very Cool and great narration!! I worked for a real estate company in Manhattan. In 2007, I know there was a lot of talk about big investors looking to scoop up some of these abandoned catskill hotels for cheap, to hopefully get them going again. Now I know why the deals were always stalling. Images of these hotels are straight out the movies, especially apocalypse and war movies.
I wish I had 20 million to turn one of those into a house.
aabaruff 3 years ago
i used to work in the dining room as a waiter..But grew up there on my summers as a kid..Its just stupidity and neglect
jevideo 3 years ago
Did you use to go to this place when it was open? i have known of this place since 2002* i seen photos when it was in good condition (abandoned) sad to see it has gotten so bad burned twice and vandalised beyond, Allot of that is not vandalised its just falling apart, this place has not even been abandoned for 6-7 years and it looks worst then places i seen 20 plus years. it was remodeled to why is it so bad?
vwgti101 3 years ago
lorddrgoono probably just thinks hes cool he probably wouldnt have the balls, rot in hell that place was beautiful
applepiejacks 3 years ago
Thanks for the view and comment.
It must be hard to see this once great
place in this condition. Take care.
alacazam 3 years ago
oh man i play paint ball there its um not to bad structualy but now i feel so bad i seem like this place was really nice i hope some day some one well fix this place
lorddragoono 3 years ago
so you were part of that bunch that helped destroy the hotel..pretty discusting..hopefully someday, you'll learn to write english as well..next time read your comments before sending
jevideo 3 years ago
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i fucking destroyed that place, i shot out over 20 windows yah had tons of fun that. place is shit now its never coming back git over it
lorddragoono 3 years ago
Its abandoned anyways, so why not play paintball. It makes the hunk of junk useful.
39325dlee 3 years ago
I had stayed at a bungalow colony across from the pines most of my life and had worked at the Pines for many years..So when I went up there It was a tremdous depressing feeling..oh well, progress
jevideo 3 years ago
Yes, very sad indeed. In 1990 I attended what was probably among the last 50's theme shows there at The Pines. I worked in the area as well during that time which gave me yet another perspective that made looking at the demise of resorts in that entire area a sad chapter in the Sullivan region.
tosata3 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your response.. They rather see rotting buildings and dangerous situations than tax producing properties
jevideo 3 years ago
Yes, that is a large part of the reason I left that county. I still live within driving distance and have returned to attend some concerts at the new Bethel Center for the Arts, but outside of that, the reasons remain few to want to go there other than to recall the times gone by.
tosata3 3 years ago
Good job.
I think there is going to be a lot more things like this to come.
ski resorts, malls, big box stores, Detroit, factories, mental hospitals, etc. with the advent of the internet, we really don't need these places anymore. But, for those of us there is the memories.
I think instead of trying "rid" the landscape of these, set up a small office on site, charge a small fee to enter (along with signing a legal release),provide a bathroom, etc. but don't change anything in the buildings.
StMeade 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments...It is a shame
jevideo 3 years ago
It is sad to see buildings like this that just go to waste. You think they could have used the building for something else then to just let it rot.
Comptekhs 3 years ago
awesome video, the perspective that you have, from working there is great.
xdistortx 3 years ago
Thanks, it was depressing and i am angered by the neglect..Thanks for your comment
jevideo 3 years ago