Soul Calibur 4 Storm vs. Phoenix

[kai8071]

@xxFi3rc3xx yes it has been said sentinels consider her omega level read up on her history and adventures in comics many times she has been called omega level

[xxFi3Rc3xx]

its so annoyin how die hard storm fans try to make storm more powerful than she really is. Its never been said that storm was an omega-level mutant. JEAN IS ONE ! if you guys actually did ur research on jean/phoenix , you wud kno why phoenix wud beat storm easily.

[IrvhsKills]

jean can beat storm fast she could crack her head with telikenisis or enclose her in a small space and she scare to death

[natosthan]

WTF is storm's weapon? Mother Nature's Palm?

[xCuddles34]

They're both awesome in their own ways.

[DennysVLog]

Storm would win any battle with the pathetic pheonix. Shes easily hot headed, and prone to spilt personality disorders. Storm fully unleashed by description of her powers, could immobilize her by deep freezing, and knock her off into space by the mere wind. Lightning isnt her only tool, you know. And If she had a mind to do that to a friend. Next Topic. o.0

[xCuddles34]

Jean may be powerful, But she's stupid.

Storm may be smart, But she's not so powerful.

[Litasulimate1fan]

Somebody had to be playing as Jean Grey because Storm should not have been that easy to beat and where is the sound?

[Angelice920]

QUIERO SAVER.. ¿? COMO SE LLAMA? EL JUEGO? ESE?

[lynxvex]

Are they running out of weapons?

[TheAensleigheR]

jee.. that storm's weapon must be so painful to slap people with XD IN THE FACE!

[GodWarrior1982]

Storm is the Sexiest Woman the X-Unverise, And she is the most powerful but she hardly ever pushes it to the max, Her self control keeps her from truly destroying evering and everyone she loves. That in itself is true power. To have power but know when to use it.

[ChaosoneX]

@GodWarrior1982 I'm going to point out to you that Jean is first and foremost an *esper* who also is the avatar of a primal cosmic being that is the embodiment of every esper ability ever. Said cosmic entity used Jean to wipe out an entire *galaxy* when it "briefly" ran amok.

Storm is powerful, yes, but Jean is on a completely different level altogether.

[kbd261]

well said !

[Daroga1]

@GodWarrior1982 Lol Jean controls Pheonix force...that can literally re-write time.

Storm just moves wind around.

[tripleA528]

i love the phoenix

[SraSobreNatural]

PHOENIX LOVE

[atltallone907]

OK.... A few reasons this videio is booty

1...NO SOUND

2. Seems like you are skipping rounds

3.Storms Weapon.....WTF?

[SuperSkilledGamer]

jean is ay more powerful than storm.

[groveymom]

@SuperSkilledGamer nope not really

[mrremi12s]

@SuperSkilledGamer PHOENIX IS MORE POWERFUL THAN STORM BUT JEAN GREY IS NOT

[lucaschermontsantos]

weel clearly , jean is much more powerfull, if she wanted, she could to paralize storm and hit her against the walls floors until she dies, or simply disintegrate her, as she did with the soldiers in the third x-men movie.

[xmenfan07]

NO SOUND! W T F

[SISTERWANDAVIPOFEB]

Back in may of 2005: Lucy.Powell who is a comic book expert,and who was

also once involved with marvel comics have stated that storm's full weather power runs from planet weather such as rain,fog,wind,snow and more

to space weather such as solar wind and more,and storm can rival jean's telekinesis if need be,and with the phoenix who is on a much higher level

then storm,she can also still rival the phoenix as it is with-in storm's weather

power to do so,storm is just limited to her body.

[CubanoRicanTony360]

Phoenix looks like Poison Ivy lol

[WhiteKitsuneShiva]

storm can PHYSICALLY kick jean's ass, over power her as phoenix, the only way she could even hope to stand a chance is if dark phoenix took over and it would still be a close fight that could go either way.

[xOmniCloudx]

Looks more like poison ivy than phoenix

[LittleJ1576]

Interviewer Richard Burton: "When the new X-Men first appeared Storm was probably the most powerful and dramatic member. Do you feel now that she's been slightly upstaged by Phoenix?"

Creator Chris Claremont: "No. In equal terms of raw power, they're approximately equal."

To clear things up...Chris Claremont HIMSELF said that Storm and the Pheonix are eqaul in power. But, the pheonix is the full exent of Jeans power, Storm hasn't even completely evolved yet! So tell me who's more powerful!

[fuuinekusu]

@LittleJ1576

She won't. Because no one 'evolves' in the same way. Did you not see her stint as the Phoenix in the alternate reality. She went insane far more quickly than Jean. Jean IS Phoenix and Phoenix IS Jean. Which means she won't evolve like you think she will.

[clintonmusiclover]

@LittleJ1576 Yeah I remember reading that they are equal in power. People keep forgetting Storm became a Goddess! (Her powers were becoming Cosmic with her elements) She would have matched the Phoenix in power! The are both equally matched!

[clintonmusiclover]

@LittleJ1576 Yeah I remember reading that they are equal in power. People keep forgetting Storm became a Goddess! (Her powers were becoming Cosmic with her elements) She would have matched the Phoenix in power! The are both equally matched!

[ramonrockchamp]

your storm was very well made

[pantstelly93]

question why is storms weapon a giant hand? it looks like she's trying to fly-swat phoenix

[may1978ad]

LOL. what are those things they're holding? Nice props! I dont remember neither Jean nor Storm bring somethin' like those. =) hehehe

[lightwiz]

Okay, I'm a serious Storm fan (shes my favorite mutant) however, the Phoenix (Phoenix force)can beat her because well... she can do anything literally. Shes like the supreme HAXOR of the marvel universe. She can change matter, come back to life, sail the cosmos you name it...

[thatnylesguy]

I think she could too but it would be quite a fight

[julsinsf]

that was a sick knockout move by phoenix

[decoy55]

I hate when ppl talk about jean grey and storm and say that jean or pheonix would win hands down!!! first of all there both Omega lvl mutants and jean has the pheonix and when storm is overwelhmed she turns to goddess mode! which is when she breaths fire and ice at the same time and has lightning from her hair. and unlike jean who get drained from the pheonix storm does not. and storm in goddes mode can go outer space and manupulate solar winds. dont downgrade storm like she'll lose! she wont!

[vonnv07]

Alot of people are siding with storm in these fights although she is quite powerful you got to look at the big picture of the phoenix force and the way it can destroy worlds on a whim. Storm also great in a fight with her own powers yet. You must realize the only reason why the x-men ever survived their encounters with the phoenix force was because jean was holding it back otherwise all the xmen including prof x would have been nothing but a pile of ash.

[j1a2g3watzupwidat876]

@vonnv07 Jean hold back Phoenix, LMAO. She swallows one little star and everyone is afraid of her, geesh.

[herbdiddy]

i so agree with the guy under me and who ever is playing as storm sucks big time

[Tymaca321]

hah. you really think storm would win.

seriously the movies make it look like she is weak.

And believe me. i have readed all of the comics and watched all of the series + the movies. and phoenix would own storm.

just see the third movie.

really she can destroy 10 planets whenever she likes. plus she has dark phoenix powers.

believe me when i say jean would own storm big time

[kerukun878]

Phoenix even in the cartoons and comics would win easily.

[Tymaca321]

only in dark phoenix though.

the fight in jeans normal form would be impressive but then storm would win

[kerukun878]

Thats wrong, actually, they're both omega level mutants either way, and it doesnt matter if she was in Dark Phoenix with her pyrokinesis she would win easily, but even with TK and TP she would win.

[Tymaca321]

yeah... although she wouldnt pwn storm easily

[kerukun878]

She wouldnt, but she would win, laying through Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 shes better then Storm in my book

[Tymaca321]

yeah..although storm CAN also go nuts. witch you can kidda compare to dark phoenix. (i havent seen the storm trailer of MUA2 does she have the same powers as in MUA1?)

BTW your right about jean being better in mua2 but i thinks thats just because marvel knows jean is a more loved mutant then storm (because she's hot (littely) )

[kerukun878]

Not the same powers, two are the same, but better, Jean and Storm are about as good as each other in the game, but I use Jean more, and Storm didnt get a vignette because she was one of the first reveals.

[Tymaca321]

i wasnt talking about the same powers.

i was talking about you can compare there power levels XD

[kerukun878]

Ohhhhhhh. Shes definitely way more powerful this time. Her and Jean are the most powerful females in the game this time being on god tier instead of Spider-Woman and Ms Marvel on Middle tier.

[Tymaca321]

always hated ms marvel and SW

there just too original

ms marvel really SOUNDS like a ripoff of captain marvel and SW lacks origanliy

As for storm i dont think there will be much people who play as her though, does she have new powers BTW?

and think about it. storm was already in the previous game and jean is enterly new. i really think more people would prever jean (witch we all have been waiting for XD) then storm (where actually close to nobody was waiting for) XD

[kerukun878]

That is entirely ture, except I liked MM and SW they were always original, and even are in this game even though only MM is playable. But, Storm has one of the same powers from the last game, her lightning, which also forms into her chain lightning upon leveling. But I do prefer Jean who has always been more original then Storm, and is even more original then Human Torch. Songbird and Jean are the most original females to be honest.

[Tymaca321]

i thought she-hulk was also in it?

anyway im now gonna get the game for my nds. ( i dont think jean is playabale in this version though *hopes) XD

[kerukun878]

Ohh you're getting it for nds? Jean isnt in it for NDS, Storm is though, and She-Hulk is, I think Psylocke is the best exclusive though.

[Tymaca321]

itf offical for me. the nds version sucks balls. seriously. the grapisc suck the gameplay sucks (it could be there ARE some exclusives though. BTW for wich one is psylocke i want to play her badley)

i dont know if there are exlusives for the ds version cus the game gets after 15 mins boring

[kerukun878]

NDS does have Storm though, and their exclusives are She-Hulk and Sentry, Cyclops, Psylocke, and Blade are for PS2, Wii, and PSP. Iron Fist is for 360/PS3

[7813278]

It amazes me how much people under estimate Storms abilities.. Last Stand captured Storm as weak, the way she was thrown around by that other girl was ridiculous. And for a fact Storm maybe (other than Logan) one other mutant that would give Jean a run for her money. Example, Storm could make it hot enough to make Jean melt in her shoes. I like them both, but I don't like that fact that Storm is second rate when compared to Jean.

[Tymaca321]

Note: storm cant control the sun.

you can see that by her name.

or she makes it colder or she lets in rain/hail/snow. she also has the power to create whirlwinds etc.

[7813278]

It's not a matter of controlling the sun. She can control the weather which includes heat! I said nothing about the sun.

[Tymaca321]

how do you expect it else to heat up?

[7813278]

By manipulating the sun's heat! Any other ridiculous question's!?

[Tymaca321]

and there you fall.

by maipulating the SUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNSSSSSSS

(in case you cant read it with your brain)

heat.

Any other ridicilous answers?

[7813278]

HAHA! Who's talking about controlling the sun? You! I'm speaking of the term manipulate, do I need to dum it down for you? She can use the sun's energy as her own, no one is speaking of moving the sun! My point still stand's that Storm has the ability to control the weather. Now tell me, what does that include?

[Tymaca321]

did i even once say the word moving?

you really are good at making things up.

But believe me.

storm can make it colder let it rain/hail/snow

and can couse lighting to strike etc.

she CAN control the weather.

only certain types.

and if your so sure that she CAN manipulate the sun. pm me a vid or a internet page (wich is trustable)

where she uses it!

[7813278]

ok Kido

[j1a2g3watzupwidat876]

@Tymaca321 Dude, she controls Temperature. EVERY ASPECT OF THE ATMOSPHERE CAN BE MANIPULATED BY STORM. STORM WAS ONCE SO POWERFUL AFTER BEING CAPTURED BY EMMA FROST, SHE WAS COMPARED TO DARK PHOENIX. BUT SHE FEARED ENDING UP LIKE HER, SO SHE SUPRESSED HER POWERS. JEAN HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE PHOENIX FORCE. STORM CONTROLS HER POWERS EASILY. NO LOOK AT IT. Storm crushes Jean, and holds her own against Dark Phoenix, but Storm will lose to Dphoenix but it wont be as easy as everyone says.

[Tymaca321]

@j1a2g3watzupwidat876 Gawd, really just when i thought i was off the Storm lovers club another weirdo dives up. If Jean goes ALL out, she doesnt have control of her powers anymore. In a matter of seconds she turns Dark phoenix by then. Remember, Jean only goes all out when the situation looks really bad for her. Dark Phoenix is often compared to Galactus. And if you say Storm vs Galactus, Then you know who wins. Try to look it up at that aspect

[j1a2g3watzupwidat876]

@Tymaca321 i didn't say Storm would win, just that she wouldn't lose easily. Galactus, well, she could just destroy all the planets so he has nothing to feed on. If Storm exploits this weakness of Galactus, who knows what could happen but if she were to face him head on, both she and Phoenix would be destroyed.

[Tymaca321]

@j1a2g3watzupwidat876 Im just saying Dark Phoenix often gets COMPARED to galactus. DP doesnt need planets just to be strong, all she really needs is her telepathic and fire abbilities. I must admit though, Storm can control her powers longer then Jean. But that does mean Jean gets a lot stronger before Storm could get a lot stronger, I know Jean wins really. But here are a lot of people who are pro-storm

[7813278]

@24ajenkins

Thank you!!!! I like Jean, but she's prone to fainting unlike Storm. This Tymaca321 is pro Jean, so he wouldn't see it from both perspective that Storm might just mash in Phoenix.

[Tymaca321]

Im NOT pro jean. Dude, if Jean go's all out she would be dark phoenix. And in Dark phoenix form she could destory a planet if she wanted. I dont see why you storm lovers think she's unbeateble

[7813278]

Alright fine.. Jean would win.

[Tymaca321]

@7813278 you dont mean it. even a monkey can see that

[7813278]

Well if you want to be bias then no, I don't mean it. But I think Jean would win.

[Tymaca321]

@7813278 Okay :P

[j1a2g3watzupwidat876]

@Tymaca321 Ahm hello, Jean cannot become Dark Phoenix, The Phoenix force takes over Jean's body and does as she pleases. Jean Grey has no control over the Phoenix force whatsoever, unlike Storm who is fully in control of her powers. So much so, she can repress them to prevent destruction of the world. Strom's powers range from atmospheric control, to electromagnetic manipulation and she is immune telepaths, so Jean can only attack her wit TELEKINESIS. Storm would crush Jean easily but Phoenix no

[fuuinekusu]

@24ajenkins

I think you and I are reading different comics. Btw, Jean IS Phoenix and Phoenix IS Jean.

[fuuinekusu]

@24ajenkins

Jean was always Phoenix and Phoenix was always Jean. So my contention stands.

[blackmumba111]

@fuuinekusu

Phoenix was not always Jean. After saving her life, it bonded to her and created a form that looked like her and had her memories. It thought that it was Jean Grey. It wasn't. Jean Grey proper was sealed in a life-saving cocoon at the bottom of a lake. When this Jean awakened, she no longer was the Phoenix. (until it bonded to her again)

[fuuinekusu]

@blackmumba111

Actually, yes, she is. It has been confirmed as canon, many times over.

[blackmumba111]

@fuuinekusu

it was confirmed as cannon that Jean and the phoenix force were connected to Jean and is NOW Jean, but when it was created, the Phoenix force was a shapeless mass of energy and life of the unborn. It took the form of the phoenix after seeing someone who worshipped it give it that form. It then connected and BECAME Jean...

[mrremi12s]

@24ajenkins I TOTALLY AGREE WITH U STORM WOULD DEMOLISH THT GIRL BUT PHOENIX WUD KILL STORM

[markedrules]

@24ajenkins ha y would they fight and way to be stupid u said if jean uses her powers and faints she uses ti=o much ans BECOMES THE PHEONIX anyways she doesnt always that was just before the pheonix

[cjironcjiron]

Are you serious? It would be pretty much equal but since i like storm better i say storm lol.

All those people who say pheonix whould win are soooo wrong. You peopel probably got all your info from the movies. But you got to look at the comics. If jean goes pheonix on storm, storm will almost be dead which will cause her to unleash rogue storm which is immensely strong like pheonix. Storm is also one with many planets. Which means she can get energy from them. She can even survive in space.

[athanialz]

i agree with the part you say they get it from MOVIES!! what happens in movie are NOT always what happens in THE COMICS!! that hollywood and not true!!

[yeAINTfreshAZIMIZ]

storm would destroy phoenix anyday. all phoenix can do is throw fire balls. big whoop. storm can control any and every type of weather/natural disaster possible which would knock phoenix off her rocker. all phoenix is is jean grey who just so happened to eat to many spicy tacos and now is on fiyah

[athanialz]

lMFFAO!! TACOS!!

[danheboy]

WHATAHELL, GIANT HAND? HAHAHAHAHA

[RESHON09]

uh yea...the phoenix is dressed in red not green ..

[vinciguerrian]

uh yea...there are different representations of her costume, one of them is green ..

[Dogson82]

Dark Phoenix is red, Phoenix is green.

[rubino83]

Dark Phoenix is dressed in red. Phoenix dresses in green.

[athanialz]

AH NO SHE GREEN!! AND YELLOW retard! she's red and yellow when she the Dark phoenix!!

[RESHON09]

thanks mr. know it all..i will be sure to dig up my butt and call u next time i need sum info...ok..bye.

[Marangai007]

Okay... whoever is playing Storm either can't play very well or is a hardcore Phoenix fan, because for Storm to come in close to attack with a long range weapon is stupid (but not nearly as stupid as the weapon itself) I mean really? I think that weapon is ridiculous... Not hating, just sharing my opinion that's all...

[idiot506]

Well, in a battle, Storm wouldn't stand a chance. Phoenix is a superweapon of mass destruction, while Storm can only control the weather. Phoenix has deflector shields which could block any lightning strikes. And one disintegrator wave would be enough to vaporize Storm.

[kozar2995]

you should have made storm be ivy. with the soul calibur one. cause then it would look a little like lightning when it was in whip form and stuff

[bluepen169]

ha!!! phoenix won!!

[poomsie2002]

bullshit...Storm is the strongest...this video blows...they didnt even use storms power!

[LagBoy86]

I Agree she does look more like Poison Ivy there she be an outfit from the movie version colored red

[aisha980]

phoenix sword have to be like darthvader the lightsaber to have telekenisis

[07653843]

sure make the black girl lose

[dasocakid]

storm is still the best, who ever was using her cant fight for shyt

[inshufina]

er soulcalibur have storm and pheonix ???? as in x men is inside ???

[bigdaddyfranchise]

omg it has these are cutsom made

[aVeryDeadlyCreamPuff]

good storm but your phoenix looks more like poison ivy from batman, im not really sure what phoenix its supposed to be, im assuming jean grey from x-men but i dont think it looks like her at all.

[TheWeatherGod1]

That Storm looked very manly and was way too dark. Plus what is up with that oven mitten on a stick she was fighting with?

The phoenix was great tho!

[onyana]

Gee what would I rather use - The flaming hell fire rings of insane slicing metal edges or ridiculously oversized novelty hand on a stick. whoever came up with that idea should be shot.

[idiot506]

The only warrior who has a chance against the Phoenix is Chuck Norris.

[kyokushindabomb]

Chuck Norris doesn't consider it sex if the woman lives!!!

[thatnylesguy]

when u think about everything storm can do with her powers pheonix is pwned after all they are both same weight both class 5

[JooCandy]

Storm should be a bit lighter... and her weapon is VERY weird...

[athanialz]

AGREE lmao a HAND! c'mon!

[jeremywalker001]

Good but pheonix needs wings

[gekopa]

nice!