US should say yes to drugs in Afghanistan

[MuammarAlGathafi]

Your "expert" guest is just another illuminati asshole spouting his bullshit opinion.

I doubt he's seen any real combat because the look on his face screams pussy!

[TainaAtheist1]

Peace is a plan.

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[Wahoofuck]

Yeah, I'm not for the military occupation of Afgahnistan but if the poppies were regulated so the general population could turn a profit and possibly be less vexed about the past 7 years.

[MyceliaProductions42]

Go, Danny Glover! Great to see the Real News is getting the attention of a lot of people.

[keytoothed]

Bottom line: all this guy is advocating is the (further) transformation of Afghanistan into a kind of American protectorate, which is a nice way of saying a more draconian American occupation, subsidized by American pharmaceutical companies. Sounds like Cheney's glib, "The oil well pay for it!" Sorry: The West will ALWAYS be the enemy in that part of the world.

[InfiniteMischief]

LUV the Island..lived near Courtenay but "weed" is only classified a drug or 'controlled substance' because of a lack of understanding of the 'nature' of drugs. comparing a natural organic plant and a chemicalized and processed plant resin like opium to heroin is like the 'gateway theory'...thats like saying 'because i drank milk I'm bound to drink whiskey".. BUT I do believe that the hard drugs especially heroin are protected. Let us grown our own weed and STOP the junk!

[amobashe]

See Tom Robbins' Villa Incognito

[nEWSoFtHEnORTHiSLAND]

I do agree with most of what this guys says, The drugs are the thing!!

Even in Canada we have Drug related Party Members in Government! That support Lawyers for Taliban and control most drug manufactures, with Union contracts or investment, while dictating the flow of illegal drugs on our streets. Yet he and his followers have no use for the US except for the auto bail outs for union Canadians, that work for US Companies!

To Much eh?

TTFN

[9407113678]

Real News my ass. Imperealist news more like.

If anyone watching this is falling for their shit you're a fucking moron.

[powerslave71]

you dont think al-ciada is already doing business and thriving?

[tj7cuevas]

when i was in afghanistan i saw a few druglords that where european. we were told by our superiors to be sure that we dont damage the opium fields, no matter what. i also saw a special forces operative hand a big stack of cash to one of these druglords. it was like i walked into something i wasnt supposed to see. i got my ass chewed. it was an issue in my job for the better part of a year

[Realizalize]

the afghans have to realize that they are in this shitty position, because the stuff they pretend to defend.

taliban can hardly read and don`t even understand the kouran.

[tweek107]

the real news is so NWO is quite nauseating that they call themselves the news for and of the people, kinda like how the government is supposed to be for and by us.

[dicknaboxxx]

so tweek107 did you support the bailout/give away, because

the real news was obviously against it. The bailout was a financial 9/11, I dont see how you can call them NWO, now CNN

FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, MTV,HBO, there's your NWO. Good luck.

[ejbh3160]

tweek107... to do 'real' news they sometimes have to interview people who YOU may not agree with! That doesn't make them NWO or whatever. Keep it real!

[ejbh3160]

Lennynero80.. "What?! No real reason to invade Afghanistan? What about building the pipelines to get to the oil at the caspian sea? And what about re-instating the opium fields? That guy is full of shit!"

Hey what happened to "we'll smoke out Ossama BIn Laden"? Lies maybe? Because that was the ONLY reason that was given at the time to invade Afghanistan!! So now.. oh so its about drugs.. or Pakistan maybe.. or elephants in living rooms.. or.. or anything but THE TRUTH!!

[theghanboyz]

the reason afghanistan has high drug bussiness is because fucken karzai doesnt do anything i mean it has past freakin 5 or more years nd still afghanistan is still the same nd because there is no job people hav no other way to make money an live thats why they start growing drugs nd selling them to make money thats the onli way they hav to make living so basicaly i just want karazai to be removed and someone smart who knows what to do should be on

[hamiljs]

Bootleggers and religious conservatives are always the biggest proponents of prohibition, as they gain the most from it. It is in the best interest to the majority of the world population to drop the prohibition on poppy in Afghanistan and build an economy on a product that is obviously so well suited to the area and beneficial to the world as a whole. The ignorant use of a dangerous product can be controlled without brute force, but it requires that population's basic needs be met first. MONEY

[dirtyboy830]

What did the Taliban(religious conservatives) gain from banning opium? Other then them being bombed to smithereens by the international drug corporations...

I think liberals just can't stand to act in a proper and moral way. You love degeneracy and depravity so you want to legalize everything from heroin to prostitution. Hell, there's even a liberal party in Holland that wants to legalize child pornography and lower the consent age to well below the onset of puberty.

[ejbh3160]

Firstly 'illegal'... isn't it odd how we in the West think OUR Laws should apply to people in other countries & yet when they suggest we should follow their laws all hell breaks loose!? Sharia Law anyone??

Secondly... if you want to talk about drugs then talk about drugs... child porn??? You Americans throw that word "Liberal" around far too 'liberally'... like you used to throw the word "witch" (back in the 1660s) or 'Commie' (in the 1960s) or now 'Terrorist'... they're ALL witch hunts IMO!

[dirtyboy830]

Some of the most famous "witch hunters" like Matthew Hopkins were Brits so I don't know what you mean by that.

I was making a comparison between the degenerate nature of drug "culture" and other things. I suppose comparing two things is too much for you to understand.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what their laws should be. As far as I'm concerned we should never have gotten involved in mid-east politics from the beginning.

[ejbh3160]

lol.. you have a knack for introducing trivia & twisting a debate. I was thinking of the Salem trials but never mind.

So how about Commies? Or now 'Terrorrists'? (like Nelson Mandella maybe??)

Did you even 'get' my point I wonder?

The "degenerate nature of drug culture" is almost ALWAYS the 'degenerate nature of the organised criminals' that run the drugs business.

If we legallise drugs we END a huge slice of the Mafia & Taliban's income, which might just stop some of their other activities!

[dirtyboy830]

Legalization ends their activities, but with the huge amount of money the corruption endemic in the drug trade will just be shifted around.

The Taliban weren't ideal, but one thing we can all learn is their devotion to a particular ideology. In that belief system it forced them to stop certain decadent activities, such as the opium trade. I'm not suggesting we all introduce Sharia Law, but the current trend of lowering the moral standards is clearly steering us in the wrong direction.

[ejbh3160]

Yet again you miss the point!

You say: "the huge amount of money the corruption endemic in the drug trade will just be shifted around"

The 'huge amount of money' is ONLY because its ILLEGAL! If it was legalised & treated like any other substance & traded on open markets like coffee or tea then it would cost about $50-$150 a kilo (not $500,000 a kilo!!)

In fact $50 is about what it costs in Afghanistan now.. so the farmers aren't making 'huge amounts of money'... The Taliban & Mafia ARE!

[dirtyboy830]

OK... So people are going to see the huge amount of money in the drug trade and not take advantage of it? I doubt it.

A decent portion of drug money is siphoned into "legit" markets. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the mafia funds legalization movement knowing that if it is legalized it will make their jobs a lot easier.

[dirtyboy830]

The Taliban is a threat to the main powers in the mideast. I really doubt the Taliban and the Mafia are buddies. I would think they are competitors. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this guy is just a PR rep for the mafia and wants to see this money put in the hands of the occupying powers there.

[ejbh3160]

dirtyboy.. You're just sounding stupid now I'm afraid.

How many times does it take for you to understand this very simple point... that if drugs were LEGAL there wouldn't BE "huge amounts of money" in it!? C'mon start to THINK pleeease! This is getting boring!

The huge cost (on the street) is BECAUSE they are 'illegal' & not because they cost a lot to produce ($50 a kilo in Afghanistan compared to $500,000 a kilo on the streets in the USA!)!

[dirtyboy830]

I'm not sounding stupid. You just can't get it through your head that drug dealers are just as susceptible to corruption as those who would sell it legally.

"drugs LEGAL there wouldn't BE 'huge amounts money'"

Why? Just because it's legal there's going to be less money in the drug trade? That doesn't make any sense.

"$50 kilo in Afghan compare to $500,000 kilo in USA"

I don't see how legalizing would change the price? I know it's not the cost of production, it's the value of the commodity.

[dirtyboy830]

Maybe I should have said this in reverse:

"that drug dealers are just as susceptible to corruption as those who would sell it legally. "

Like,

"That those who would sell it legally are just as susceptible to corruption as those who sell it illegally"

But whatever...

[ejbh3160]

indeed "whatever"... you simply don't GET IT do you?

"Like...

"That those who would sell it legally are just as susceptible to corruption as those who sell it illegally"

Please try thinking outside the box! If there isn't any 'ILLEGALLY'.. then it all changes!

It becomes a medical issue & NOT a criminal issue.

If a junky can go to the drug store & buy it for a couple of dollars instead of hundreds of dollars HOW is the Mafia going to 'compete' & sell it at hundreds???

[ejbh3160]

In fact, I'd suggest that there would be fewer & fewer 'junkies' once it was legal. For a start kids wouldn't get into drugs for the 'thrill' of doing something naughty. If so-called 'gateway' drugs like pot were legal too then there would be less likelihood of getting introduced to harder drugs & other criminal activities & so other 'crime' would fall too. Junkies wouldnt need to steal to pay crazy prices for something that is basically cheap! Insurance companies & neighbourhoods would benefit!

[ejbh3160]

Ok you realise its not the cost of production. Thats a start.

So tell me WHY does it have 'value' on the streets? Is it because its 'WORTH' 500,000?

OR is it BECAUSE its illegal? Please feel free to tell me HOW it goes from 50 to 500,000!?

If it was legal there wouldn't be the 'risk' of jail or death & so no big 'mark-up'! Criminals simply wouldn't make 499,950 on each kilo if you could get it from your drug store!

Did the Mafia stay in the booze running business when prohibition ended? NO!

[dirtyboy830]

If I can sell something to some idiot for 500,000$ instead of 50$ then that's what I'm going to do. The lengths I take to get it is quite irrelevant. Sure it's a factor, but not the bottom line.

My understanding is that Amsterdam is a haven for junkies and their policy hasn't "cured" the drug problem. I've been told drugs aren't any cheaper there, either. A quick google says 5 euro a gram of weed, which is about the same here in NYC.(last time I checked...)

[ejbh3160]

The USA has the highest drug use of ANY western country. Sorry to pop your bubble but Holland has one of the lowest drug user populations in the western world.

To answer that first point YET AGAIN.. you won't be able to sell it to some idiot for 500,000 if that idiot can buy it for 50 in a drug strore! Why don't you just THINK before repeating your igrorance? Perhaps you should go back over this exchange we've had and see how many times I've had to repeat myself and STILL you just don't get it!

[ejbh3160]

The 'cost' of weed is irrelevant, the point is, in the USA you lock up 800,000 non-violent 'drug' users (which includes the peaceful weed smokers who are NOT like heroin junkies) and yet prohibition has done NOTHING to reduce numbers of heroin addicts or hard drug users on Meth or Coke etc. If anything the data shows that prohibition sends drug use UP!

Your idea of a 'haven' for junkies, simply means they don't go to jail, they go to their doctor instead and get 'treatment'! AND WHY NOT?

[dirtyboy830]

Yes, the cost is only relevant when it supports your conclusion.

Data gathered from Amsterdam shows that prohibition has little to no effect on use. Though a small increase in abuse, that could very well be due to other factors.

The only solution is to take everyone who deals or uses drugs and put them into camps where they can work for their freedom. This will work out great because then we won't have to rely on third world immigration for cheap labor.

[ejbh3160]

You're clearly a redneck who knows NOTHING about 'freedoms' &/or "inalienable RIGHTS".

You even state that in YOUR opinion the Laws have had NO effect compared to Holland where its legal! So? DUH!

You refuse to see that these draconian laws were brought in to benefit Corporations NOT people!

The COST is only "relevant" because its ILLEGAL & all that money gets the MAFIA involved (& rich)!

As a chronic pain sufferer on Morphine I AM a "drug user" so up yours buddy!

End of conversation!

[n8iveidiot13]

i personally thought your comment was stupid compared to dirtyboy830... he went straight to the facts and you just swayed left and right and didnt quite tell where your facts were comming from

[ejbh3160]

I personally don't give a flying phart what you thought of my comment(s). You don't say WHICH ONE for a start! dirtyboy is a biggot. His "to the point" comments showed that clearly.

As for swaying left & right.. WTF do you mean? Not exactly 'to the point' are you? Any examples of 'left/right-ism'?

Anyway like I said I don't really give a damn whether you want to suck up to dirtyboy or not & thankfully (looking at the ratings of the comments, people like you & dirtyboy are in a minority). Adios

[LennyNero80]

What?! No real reason to invade Afghanistan? What about building the pipelines to get to the oil at the caspian sea? And what about re-instating the opium fields? That guy is full of shit!

[dirtyboy830]

Only the criminal drug traffickers will win by legalizing drugs.

The Taliban got rid of drugs in Afghanistan. They virtually eliminated the heroin trade world wide as Afghanistan is the leading supplier of opium. We go in and install the very same drug dealers the Taliban ousted barely one year after opium was eliminated!

There's only one full proof plan, but anyone who suggests what the problem is, is labeled by the most vicious propaganda campaign this world has ever known.

[ejbh3160]

dirtyboy830... "Only the criminal drug traffickers will win by legalizing drugs". Ummm surely if its 'legalized' it won't BE 'criminal drug trafficking'?

Buying the 'natural' crop makes sense but LEGALIZATION is essential to that being a successful policy, because otherwise buying the Afghan crop will just increase the price of 'illegal' heroin!

[dirtyboy830]

Yea, then it will just be LEGAL heroin. That doesn't solve the problem. Hate them if you will, but the Taliban solved the heroin problem.

[ejbh3160]

dirtyboy... Except it DOES solve the 'problem'! For your information Legal heroin is called Dia-Morphine & its already prescribed to chronic pain & cancer patients! I find it amazing how many people don't realise its already a LEGAL drug for pharmacutical purposes & the only difference is they synthesize a version out of chemicals & call it Dia-Morphine (or Morphine or Codine etc..) & heroin is the 'Natural' version.

[PeterSodhi]

Read Peter Scott-Dale - CIA = Drug dealers.

[DelinquentFaith]

So maybe we should let the Taliban govern again and the drug production will go down? :P

[DeraJa]

It is great to see successful independent news organizations expand

[percymate]

You guys always get it right. Opium from Afghanistan has been flooding the west coast in the last 7 years. Northern California and Southern Oregon have been hit hard. The only way that's possible is the US Army flying over the drugs in Afghanistan. I suspect the profits go to Black Operations inside the military.

[pcfriars2000]

Does this guy really think foreign companies or countries will move in to buy opium directly from the Afghan people in order to cut out the warlords, and that the warlords will just let it happen? They're not called warlords because they're push-overs. So NATO forces will have to protect the production and shipment of this opium from the warlords, or the warlords will take their share of the profits from the Afghans through mafia-style "protection" schemes. And we go back to Square 1.

[PersonalJesus348]

the only difference between illegal and prescription drugs are the fact they make tons more money off of prescription. The main similarity is that they are both substances that can be both abused.

In all intensive purposes. There is no important distinguishing factor.

[copcorona]

end the war on our streets. end the war on drugs in Canada.

[ThemowofChow]

Another great News article! Donate people!

[maydayfire]

US already said yes to drugs in Afghanestan 6 years ago, only through CIA under the tables. Since then drugs production has increased 10 fold. And Iran which is the first country in the drug transit to Europe has to suffer without any boost from Western nations to help

[Elva420]

G old

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[blackiron60]

This fellow makes some good points, but if Western military rule were ever established in Afghanistan...well, we know what happened to the Soviets in the 80s and even they had a client government in Kabul!

[blackxavior]

Where does "The Real News" get these idiots?

[odin422]

I CAN AGREE TO THAT, BUT YOU MUST ALSO MENTION OUR CORPORATE MASTERS THE bRITSH BANKERS...opps caps lock ahh well

[ejbh3160]

Its called 'The Commonwealth' (ironic name in the current economic climate if nothing else)

;-)

[AbtinX]

Hahahahaha what a useless topic, I think the US has said yes to drugs in Afghanistan since the 1980's, and are still doing so today. If anyone is naive enough to think that the explosion of narcotrafficking is some kind of coincidence, then the jokes on you!

[TainaAtheist1]

The U.S. should stop invading the sovereignty of other nations when it comes to the drug economy. Columbia, for example, is considering throwing-out our judgmental butts because we can no longer decipher who are the drug lords and who are the people simply trying to make a living.

We need to recognize that it's hypocrisy to have George W. Bush, Sir Alcoholic, as president. Alcohol, cigarettes, Prozac, aspirin, pain killers ... they're ALL drugs for which no one should be demonized.

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[mujeebyzai]

How come when Taliban were in power the drug production was neglegible as compared to under the USA and NATO? I do not understand this. There is something fishy out in Afghanistion that we donot know? Any comments?

[bbburton]

Just legalize drugs and watch the price drop. The drug war is a failure and should be ended immediately.

[odin422]

FUCK NATO, FUCK THE UN.

[hiyukenmusic]

Pragmatism like all isms requires itself to continually be applied to be effective and worships itself in the believed infallibility of its  assumed outcome in its construction... the very flaw of pragmatism is that its very meaning honors simplistic line of sight thinking as opposed to a more in depth and enumerated construction.

This plan is hopelessly flawed

[lyden2006]

Think you might be overanalyzing this a little much?

[Lawlow1978]

Well how is it that drug cultivation has been so damn high since the US invasion. The Taliban was more able to cut down on the poppy production but NATO and the US cant?? it doesnt past the smell test.

I bet theres something going on in afghanistan that we the public dont know about yet.

[odin422]

understatement

[manolis1080]

buying pupies is no cure for the cancer of drug cultivation and trade in afganistan .. the americans stupidly think there is a easy way out of this but infact they still cannot stop drug cultivasion not even in Colombia where it still powers up the FARC , like in Afganistan where it powers the Taleban.....

[pauliepbaby]

ooo this is nice the united states is buying more drugs

[Kingery4President]

So, how is the Afghan political structure any different than that in the USA; where our Politicians in all branches and all levels OUTRIGHT refuse to punish those convicted by juries.

[AbtinX]

It's quite different actually, as Afghanistan is OCCUPIED and in a state of war. Don't even start to compare it with your country. The government controls Kabul and some farms, the US government controls everything but South Central Los Angeles hahaha

[Kingery4President]

You are closer to correct in your last remark than you think. The USA government does not control anything. Worst of all, they do not even control that which they are charge with.

So to is the USA "Occupied" by a government that the People allowed to corrupt.

All people quite literally control their governments and their politicians in either of two ways: 1) Active monitoring and reprimanding; 2) Passively allowing the politicians to do as they please (this is the USA form of "control").

[AbtinX]

I see your point. But are you so sure that a change in government can truly change anything in the US as long as the economy relies on fossil fuels, arms production, imperialism and cash cropping in latin america? I can't see any real change unless the economy itself is changed. Whats your view?

[Kingery4President]

From what I can tell, the People desire other energy sources; a strong defense without empire building; and short-term helping other nations without imposing our own will over their sovereignty. The only way to realize this is to change the government structure.

In looking back over our economic situation, we are no worse off today than 1899. Consider it took about 3.4 years wages in 1899 to buy a $3,400 house. in 1977 it took about 3.2 years to by a $49,000 house. Today, is about 3.4 to 3.7

[dellsprospects22]

it doesn't matter what kind of deal pharmaceutical companies get for it..they're gonna keep sticking it to the cancer patients and people and insurance companies - this smells like more big pharma profit, less military, cause they gotta go to secure that oil in africa

[agitcam]

This guy is an Imperialist. Some points he makes are valid but his general Corporate/Imperialist philosophy shines through.Completely wrong on Bush invading Afganistan.Oil pipeline in Afganistan which America is trying to protect. Cheney met with a Taliban oil minister 3 weeks before the invasion trying to cut a deal. When he couldn't get the deal wanted Bush invaded.

I would not consider this guy on the side of progressives and I would like to hear Vidal's opinion of what this guy says.

[AbtinX]

It's gas not oil, and he is also the typical intellectual asshole that always appears on TV talking nonsense. He should be ashamed of himself

[mushroomagicman]

Well Hell.This was the True reason for invading Afghanistan in the first place. Huge profits for the Multinationals. What's new???

[atkrunner]

Hmm... US pursuing an intellegent drug policy, in Afghanistan? Maybe after we change our policy at home. I.e., after hell freezes over. :|

Although, we might get a wake up call now that the Mexican drug violence has begun spreading into the US.

[LPGfan]

Buying the drugs might be a good plan, but I don't see it as cheap. What happens when the U.S. buys the drugs and moves its forces to the borders, then the local thugs decide that they should steal "their share" of the money from the farmers? Instead of selling drugs to the thugs, they might have to pay them for "protection."

[Creatorisintherain]

He at least hit the nail instead of the wood...or thumb. You pay either way...& if your on a black road .. change roads. Thanks for the post.

[Snowflake70]

YES ! I saw "Grand Canyon" with Danny Glover and Steve Martin. He is an excellent person to endorse this network and website.

Long time subscriber.

Great Video too !

[jrm21386]

CANADIAN military officer LOL

[kapaka12]

Haven't we had enough of this guy already?

[AfghansWorld]

the guy is a fucking CUNT, is he an advisor? lol the solution I propose as an Afghan:

fight the fucking Taliban whole-heartedly and put pressure on Pakistan to not keep bitching with Taliban , end of story.the drug thing is so fucked up reason they bring in, in debates. in fact the drug trad is in the hand of international GANG (westerners).1 kg od heroin is $50 here and $500 000 in the west, so who is running the TRADE? its common sense.watch docummentry (drug trade under the eyes of American)

[cat00012000]

How long will it take to raise people's conscienceness? It took the great depression to get rid of alcohol prohibition.

[pythag123]

I hope you get heroin forced on you at gun point. Man made synthesized drugs are made to control your life and take it away from you, plain and simple. Its a money grab for evil people. Go natural: weed and shrooms, baby. Man made drugs should be wiped out. You can say everyone has the right to do what they want to their bodies in their own homes, but hard drugs always spill over, and always bring other people down with you. There is no such thing as an addiction in control, I've seen it.

[ejbh3160]

heroin forced on you at gunpoint?

I have been addicted to morphine (a 'hard drug') for 7 years! In the UK we have free 'Healthcare' so it doesn't 'cost' me anything! However I take as much as I need to get rid of the pain & that's all! After 7 years I have it under control & reduce when its not so bad & increase when it gets worse & I haven't brought ANYONE down with me!

However I would prefer to get organically grown 'morphine' from the Himalayan mountains instead of the synthesized version.

[ejbh3160]

I am a chronic pain sufferer who is prescribed pharmacutical Morphine. I totally agree with the idea of getting the morphine from poppies which have been organically grown in the clean mountain waters of the Hmmalayas! What a fantastic idea!! Much better than ingesting a chemically synthesized version, so long as farming practices & quality controls are in place, why the heck NOT!? Not only would it rob the Taliban of money it would rob organised criminals of it too!

JUST SAY NO TO WAR! :-)

[klard]

Salvia Divinorum is a perfect example of what yo are saying. The herb shows a lot of promise for treatment of degenerative and other mental illness and private research has been undertaken. The drug companies are behind legislation putting Salvia on schedule I where all research will be stopped. Why not on schedule II with methamphetamine?

[tjtube65]

The real answer is o LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS.

[Reproductivist]

The price would go up if they burnt the drugs. It doesn't appear that he thought about that.

They wouldn't be able to buy everything.

Legalizing it is what he should advocate if the aim is to prevent the money ending up in local warlords.

[klard]

The USA has a crazy inane fear of drugs. There is no reasoning with these people.

[ejbh3160]

Its a corporate fear, which is 'pushed' to society by corporate lobbies & corporate news-mongers! The fact is they 'fear' losing all the spin-off businesses to things that can't be patented, produced for pennies and sold at massive 'profits'.

Not only legalizing drugs, but also farming them responsibly (organically) so that countries that have poor growing land for other crops can still grow crops like poppies, coca or hemp in a 'sustainable' way & can trade it legally on international markets!

[DCxxRay]

drugs are bad

[klard]

DCxxRay: mmmkay Drugs aren't bad, it is how they are used that can be bad. Heroin gives relief for people in intense pain. Amphetamine is used by the NASA shuttle pilot, along with a mix of other substances including scopolamine, to give the pilot maximum performance. Almost all of the drugs on schedule I have been demonstrated to have therapeutic uses.

[DCxxRay]

dude, you are so fvckin' delusional

[klard]

DCxxRay: I am delusional? And you can't even express a complete thought. You need to get an education. Maybe read some books also.

[DCxxRay]

i'll read the book your mom sent to me

[klard]

DCxxRay: My mom? I am a grandfather. You are out of your league here. If you want to make an argument have some facts and analysis. You are just a waste of bandwidth now.

[DCxxRay]

i need facts and analysis. you are the one who recommends heroin as a pain reliever. leave your mansion and visit an inner city community. you'll find the "therapeutic" side of the drug.

[klard]

DCxxRay: Opiate based pain relievers have been around for a long time and if you research you will find hundreds of opiate derived products pharmacalogically available now. Misuse of a substance cannot be blamed on the substance. Your narrow mindedness is the cause of many problems this country has today including drug abuse.

[SwobyJ]

My grandmother needed heroin as a pain reliever for surgery for a time... DCccRay, you really need to think a bit more.

[ejbh3160]

DCxxRay... Heroin is called Dia-Morphine by the pharmacutical industry!! They give it to cancer patients & chronic pain sufferers already & have done so for centuries! Its just CALLED 'Dia-Morphine' instead of Heroin (you need to realise 'drugs' can be anything from asprin, paracetamol, nicotine or alcohol to marijuana, crack cocaine or heroin... its ALL 'drugs' just some of them are 'illegal' and it is this 'illegality' that has lead to all the social ills you mention)

[DCxxRay]

we wouldn't be here is drug use was more wide-spread than it already is now. don't thank me. thank ronald reagan.

[ejbh3160]

yeah right like a 20yr old knows what life was like in the 80's! You mean the time when the CIA was installing drug lords & dictators in key government positions in S.America & swapping coke (which went to Miami) for guns (which went to Iran) Thank WHO? Ollie (just following orders) North wasn't it?

"wouldn't be here"? Why, where would YOU be!? I would have led the same life if drugs were legal & no way I would have taken heroin for 'fun'! You actually say more about yourself with BS like that!

[DCxxRay]

YOU wouldn't have taken heroin for fun, but who is going to stop the millions that would take it for fun. did that ever cross your mind?

[frontierer]

What makes you think that prohibition actually stops people from doing drugs? Or that somebody needs to stop individuals from doing things to themselves? Our drug use per capita is actually HIGHER than nations (such as the Netherlands) that have pursued decriminalization and education policies (thats right, FEWER people do drugs there). Hmmm, so without the saving grace of Reagan's drug policies it seems we would certainly be a nation of junkies by now.

[ejbh3160]

my point was that making it 'illegal' doesn't really affect the choices people make about drugs. Clearly being illegal hasn't deterred those who use it 'recreationally' one jot. If anything by being 'underground' it actually gets criminals involved (instead of doctors) & so victims are MORE likely to get 'hooked' by being tricked or simply ignorant of the facts.

If 'addiction' was treated as a 'medical' condition instead of a 'criminal' activity then doctors could help those who want to quit!

[DCxxRay]

are you serious? do you seriously believe the shit that you just typed? i find it hard to believe. i don't expect you to agree with me a hundred percent, but come on dude, did you proof read that shit before you posted it.

[ejbh3160]

so... are you going to point out WHAT you find so difficult to understand?

[ejbh3160]

I don't know about where you come from but here in the UK, junkies are well known to STEAL to keep their habit! So they steal on average $1000 of other peoples stuff to sell on the 'black market' so they can buy their $100 of heroin! If it was legal then they could go to their doctor & get a gram of heroin that would 'cost' the health service about $1.

The insurance companies might even PAY for it, because they would SAVE billions in payouts on insurance claims from all those junky robberies!

[odin422]

Ronald Regan is a bitch, are your a sheep.

BAH BAH BAH

KEEP EATING YOUR PILLS!

[odin422]

your a child

[odin422]

pills are bad.

[DCxxRay]

how can i find out if i get the channel?

[Psy0pAgent]

Subscribe

[DCxxRay]

can i find it on digital cable?

[SwobyJ]

It's online.