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  • My camero will smoke both of these p.s. it has corvette engin :p

  • 00x7- you're an idiot and a fool. A ws6 trans am? Yea right my friend has one too! And it has a 3" y pipe and cat back, cai, and a tune. My mostly stock gt keeps up with it. Now he has 4.10 gears and walks me. you must be a 15 year old troll, you dont rape cobras especially, or any supercharged mustang.

  • Redefine or w.e ur name is. If ur Cobra is pushing 620 hp and ur running a 10.8 u need to pass over the keys or learn how to drive it. My buddys 03 cobra with very little mods is pushing around 450ish running an 11.1

  • Hahaha that's was a stock camaro. When my trans am was stock the cobras would bearly beat me by like half a car and it was twards the end. And now I only have headers, polished heads, 373 gears, and exhaust I rape cobras thatvare pretty well modded

  • @000x7 That wasn't a stock camaro. But that was a Kenne Bell blown cobra. And heads and cam ls1 wont touch 500 rwhp and this cobra more than likely had over 600 rwhp ,This race was a cake walk for the cobra. lol

  • Can yall stop arguing about Chevy vs Ford? Whoever put the most time, effort, and money into their car will be the fastest, no matter if its a Chevy, Ford, or Dodge

  • @DraikonZ3 Yeah there would be not reason to argue. That just shows how ignorant people are. This is a kenne bell cobra they make at least 550 rwhp and most likely this one had over 600rwhp by the sound of the boost. A head and cam ls1 will make450 rwhp maybe a bit more. It was cool though and it should have been longer. When it comes down to it the twin turbo 427 small block can make over 2000 horsepower .....so you would have plenty of different boost levels to match a kb or whipple cobra

  • I think there the best one's off the line and 2nd best the new 5L .

  • I have a KB 03 Cobra pushing around 620 to the wheels and I have a 01 WS6 stalled with head and cam pushing around 430 to the wheels. They both run very similiar times. The best in the Cobra is 10.8 and the WS6's best ia 11.0. I don't know what it is, but the right combo on the LS1 is just so damn awesome. I have about $11,000 less in my WS6. Both LS1 fbodys and 03/04 Cobras are the best bang for the buck in performance.

  • @redefinedz28 I agree. 2 awesome cars. For the money you cant beat either one.

  • @redefinedz28 That's hard to find i like that, also do you agree the ls1 can 1 up the cobra?

  • @redefinedz28

    Thats crazy the kb cobra's gotta have some traction issues. Do a axle swap or build the irs up 620 horse should be low tens or high nines with stock 3.55 gears. I run a 10.25 at 133.07 and its na 01 5.0 stroker with 4.30's i stuck with the irs get the alum. bushings and degree your driveline (pinion position to trans output shaft) I still have the stock half shafts holdin up.

  • Nice....but I don't see how fair this race was. A KB cobra making about 600hp vs a H/C/I f-bucket making about 450 ish. Just saying....

  • @rovega254 If the camaro driver didnt think it was a fair race then dont race. Run what ya brung and dont make excuses. If the camaro had a 125 shot and won you wouldnt be bitching.. It is what it is. If you lose, go add more power ..

  • @digiam42 Dude, 1st of all, there's no bitching from my part. That cobra would have needed more power to run with my old SS, so it's no skin of my nose. I'm just stating the obvious......the cobra has more power and should have beat the Camaro.

  • @rovega254 And there are cobras that would smoke your old SS. someone will always be faster. I wouldnt take a race that i knew for a fact that id lose. No sense getting walked just because a cobra owner wanted to race a less horsepower car. Then it gets posted here and someone cry's foul. the camaro driver shouldnt have raced knowing the outcome and the cobra guy shouldnt be proud of waxing a mild camaro. A pullied cobra would have been a better race. As a cobra owner, i wouldnt be proud of this

  • @digiam42 Exactly! But then you all these tools on here talking shit just to show their ignorance.

  • Fix that wheel hop.

  • Stomped.

  • i love both cars bout to get a camaro. but id still take a cobra cuz from the factory its basically a beast. some mods to it and u dont have to to much to the engine or the rear end or tranny

  • :20 what the hell was all that vibrating???

  • @INeverDie99 wheel spin

  • @deanP382 your right...thats one thing i hate about convertable cobras ...they wheel hope like bunnies

  • @INeverDie99 wheel hop.

  • for the money cobras dominate the streetz...

  • @oh4cobra ...hahahaha that makes absolutely no sense to me...but sure.

  • didnt look like much of a race. looked like the camaro was behind traffic...hence the lane change.

  • wheelhop much? Maximum Motorsports and a Moto Blue crossmember would solve that.

  • @all camaro lovers who fuck all car craps this year (camaros, challengers etc.)

    well??? "mustang gt 2011 5.0 fuckers" 2010 is the year of 5.0, like it or not? fags

  • id take the cobra over the camaro any day..

  • Wheelspin central at 0:18!!

    Sick Cobra btw, fuck the slowmaro.

  • @426rwhpC5 well fuck a rustang

  • @Ls3guy not when there whooping camaros....

    Listen up buddy, I like GM (own 3 GM vehicles at the moment) and I do like the modern Fords. I used to and will always be a hardcore GM guy but now, Ford is just starting to be up there on my list as well.

    I mean come on, no bailouts and there still doing better than GM?

  • @426rwhpC5 not as far motors go the ls3 is a badass motor and new camaro is killing the new mustang

  • @Ls3guy no doubt the LS3 is a kick ass motor. I own a 2009 C6 Coupe, its a beast right out of the box.

    Its just that fact that Ford didnt need a bailout and there really spending time designing vehicles, far more time than they used to at least. Everything seems more refined. If they bring back the Ford GT in the near future (doubt it)...ho ho ho, I might just have to add it to the stable and become a big Ford fan.

    And when I said "whooping camaros" I really meant 03/04 cobras vs 4th gens

  • @426rwhpC5 ive seen a 2002 camaro ss bet a mustang cobra

  • @Ls3guy thats nice. i have seen turbo honda hatches beating vettes all day (its still a civic though, yawn lol)

    But we can *safely* say, 99% of 03/04 Corbas are faster than 4th Gen Camaros.

  • @426rwhpC5 yeah becuase the cobra has a blower that's only how they can beat a ls1 camaro

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  • @Ls3guy not only the blower. but forged internals and a pretty much kick-ass drivertrain. How many cars can make 450-500 with less than $500-600, installed? Not many, thats for sure.

    Dont get me wrong, LSx motors are bad ass. But for early 21st century pony car wars, the Cobra takes the trophy.

  • @426rwhpC5 you can make 500 hp with a ls3 with a cam and headers

  • @Ls3guy i said **early 21st century** as in 2000-2004.

  • @426rwhpC5 actly 2000-2004 would be the ls1 motor was the best motor

  • @Ls3guy wait, what?

    Yes, the LS1 motor is arguably the best motor to come from Chevy's factory and one of the top contenders for the best motor of all time. I have one, believe me, LS1's are amazing. There amazingly reliable, super versatile, and refined. What more can you ask for?

    I think thats what you were stating in your post.

  • @426rwhpC5 because its boosted. boosted vs NA now thats really fair.

  • @BMunich16 Doesnt really matter. Fords top performer in the Mustang category was the Cobra.  Chevys was the Z28 at the time. Not my fault Chevy didnt put a blower on the Z28, now is it?

  • @Ls3guy ..and the ls1 has almost 70 more cubic inches in displacement. Just wondering, what's your excuse for the new NA 5.0 raping 5th Gens with LS3s?

  • @NaDeS077 its not is that why that the new 5.0 has 11-1 compression ratio

    to make only 420 hp and headers when the ls3 only has 10-1 compression ratio

    and still make more power then that 5.0 adn is still smoke those fuckers

  • @Ls3guy The 5.0 doesn't need more power since, stock to stock, it's faster than an SS. That's why Ford didn't use DI even though the new motor was built to accomodate it. The new GTs have been getting 30+rwhp from a tune alone even though tuners still haven't completely figured out the new Copperhead PCM. A new GT can keep up with me while I spin through 1st and 2nd, but a stock Camaro can't.

    Auto GTs are just about as fast as M6s...can't say the same for Camaros.

  • @NaDeS077 are you drunk thew new camaro ss has a better motor the ss with a tune up can 50 more rwhp and the new camaro looks better and if the ls3 had a 11 -1 like the mustang it be makeing 500 hp

  • @Ls3guy I don't think it's possible for me to be offended by someone who can't even type a coherent sentence. You just said it needed headers to get that much power, but now you're saying a tune..get your facts straight. Maybe you should learn to read while you're at it since I never said LS motors sucked. Plain and simple...a stock GT is faster than a stock SS. Get off of Chevy's nuts. I love Mopar, but I still respect other brands and have no problem driving my 540hp Ford instead.

  • @NaDeS077 are you drunk the mustang is a pos

  • @NaDeS077 o and you're mustang has factory headers with 11-1 and a 600 lift cam

    and live axle rearend

  • @Ls3guy It's like having a conversation with a 5 year old. Just keep coming up with excuses...it's pretty damn funny if you ask me. Tri-Y headers still aren't as good as the real thing. 600? You just pulled that right out of your ass...try .472 intake and .432 exhaust. Plus I drive an IRS car, it's overrated if you ask me. That 3-link live axle runs circles around your IRS Camaro on the road course anyway.

  • @NaDeS077 dude you are like talking to a 2 year old who knows nothing about cars at all if you knew anything about car you would know a irs makes for a driveing car

  • @Ls3guy And how many high HP cars with IRS do you own? Even though IRS cars have less unsprung weight, solid axle cars are more efficient at putting power to the ground. Why don't you just shut the hell up until you have one that's capable of 1000 HP on the stock block and internals.

    Corvettes still have 2 leaf springs, so I wouldn't be talking shit about suspension if I were you.

  • @NaDeS077 dude are really dumb are you the corba is a irs car and so is the viperso you really to know you're cars before you open you're mouth and if you're talkikng about drag racing who cares no plan jane car will ever bet john force funny car

  • @Ls3guy And you have neither of them, so you don't own shit. I have a Cobra dumbass, and one of the worst things about the car is the IRS.

  • @NaDeS077 no it isnt you dumb fuck just cuse you dumbass dont know how to work on it odesnt mean its a pos not everyone likes drag racing

  • @Ls3guy Yeah i have no idea...that's why I'm pulling the IRS while it's on the lift at my house and replacing every single rubber bushing in the rear end so it doesn't wheel hop so fucking bad. Just because I'm not an illiterate fuck like you doesn't mean I don't know how to work on cars. The only thing keeping me from being ASE certified is the 2 year experience requirement. Go jerk off to your slow piece of shit car because you obviously don't know as much as you think you do.

  • @NaDeS077 a live hops more then a irs dose if build more cars then you have ever owned

  • @Ls3guy And a live axle won't break when you try to drive through the hop. I have to let off the second my car hops so I don't break a halfshaft. A hard launch on sticky stiff sidewall tires can snap a halfshaft in an instant. I'll take the 31 spline axles I had in my GT over the 31 spline halfshafts in my Cobra. Considering that I've owned 15 cars and built 11 of them in the past four years I doubt that.

  • @NaDeS077 fine do i have to prove to you that irs is not a bad rear end

  • @Ls3guy Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the LS3 has 10.7 to 1 compression so it's already VERY close to 11 to 1.

  • @NaDeS077 but it dont have a 600 lift cam like the mustang dose

  • mydknyte 13, the problem with what you typed is that it's BULLSHIT. the 4.6 dohc from the cobra is way more efficient than the camaro's 5.7L could ever be. (1998 Cobra) is only 20 hp shy of the 1998 5.7L with 1.1L less displacement. Ford has some serious engineering marvels with the engine...like cranking out 400+hp with only 5.0L of displacement and still getting the upper 20's mpg on the highway. also the camaro looks like a fucking catfish with wheels. YEE FUCKIN HAA!

  • EAT that Crapmaro!!!

  • @MrKawolsky fuck ford there junk

  • The sad truth is that Ford never could make any respectable power on a naturally aspirated engine. They have to supercharge every production muscle car that they have to keep up with Chevy and Dodge. Way to go Ford.... And your comparing apples to oranges anyway, because a Camaro is Chevy's low end and the Cobra isn't Ford's, it would be Mustang GT.

  • @Mydknyte13 Obviously you haven't been keeping up with current times. 5.0 is back, and it's doing more with less. And, it's leaving Chevy and Dodge behind. Have fun.

  • @Mydknyte13 and the new gt beats the new camaro, whats your point???

  • lol he didnt list the cobra's mods(you can hear the fuckin kenne bell), listed mods for the camaro that probably werent even on the car... and he was probably just passing some camaro on the freeway and saying he raced him and won... oh ya with a 3 second shot of the "race" lol typical Rustang owner!

  • @rdbc92 boo hoooo we gonna cry

  • @rdbc92 whether the camaro was modded or not its gonna take a lot more than a heads cam ls1 to hang much less beat a twin screwed cobra

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  • The cobra may have won, but it still has hideous wheels, even though they"re HRE's. The cobra also had horrible wheel hop. Stock suspension with a built up powerplant? Most likely. Also how do we know that the camaro had a heads/cam setup? The video never even shows it idling which would give away half of the equation.

  • This video is misleading and Untrue!!!!

    This is whhy I hate unknowledgable or Shady people posting videos on the internet!

    That is a Kenne bell Cobra... You can hear the higher pitch supercharger whine and you can see the black supercharger in the video...

  • @TungstenLion

    And your point is? he didnt say it wasnt KB theres nothing misleading about the video it is an 03 cobra he just didnt state the mods for his car which is rather modest if you ask me.

  • @ATR831

    what are you, naive?

    Why mention the Camaro mods and not the Cobra mods? That is very misleading... That is not modest at all, it is an approach to show that the Cobra (no mods listed) is faster than the heads/cam camaro, get your head out of your ass and realize that, man. cmon..

  • No way. My ass that's a stock Cobra. No way. It's got at least a kenne bell or a ported Eaton. you can hear it.

  • @AdrenalineJunky17

    i agree with u for the fact that at 0:13 u can see the kennebell

  • it has a god dam kenne bell that makes all the difference

  • LOL heads/cam camaro? yea fucking right, unless that was a kenne bell cobra I don't fuckin think so....I ran high 11's ALL day in my Cam only SS before I got my C5 vette

  • @treyofour Are you blind? That IS a kenne bell Cobra.

  • @SeriesOfTubes101

    Are you DEAF?! That IS a Kenne bell cobra!!

    haha

  • cobra has more horses stock but if this video is true with the fact that the ss has a bigger cam it shouldnt be so far behind cuz maros arnt that slow

  • holy shit wheel hop much?

  • And for all you GM fanboys and other people who are ignorant to the LS1 cars-

    they will not go 12.5-12.6 bone stock

    Evan Smith went 12.89@somewhere between 107-109mph 99z28

    and he went 12.6@109-110 with a 03 cobra both showroom stock

    and he can drive his ass off; better than 90% of the people out there

    Ls1 is not a 350 its a 346 Gen III GM smallblock

  • @98tadriver There was one on here with Drag radials that went 12.6 on a completely stock down to the filter motor

  • @98tadriver finally found someone that knows something about cars on here

  • Im not a fanboy or anything but I find it hard to believe that camaro was heads/cam sounded stock to me. A H/C LS1 should be more than capable of low 11s. Ive gone 11.94@ 115.68 with my z28 with bolt ons, gears, tune.

  • Low 12s?

    I have just heads/cam on my ls1 and I ran a 12.00 @112

    First time using my Mickey Thompson drs. Didn't wana launch too hard and blow my rear end ha.

    Nice car though..

  • nice cobra... wat u run at 1/4 mile...?

  • you can put a 125shot on a bone stock ls1 and be just fine

  • @TheMpatton and an 03-04 cobra can make 1000HP off the stock block :-)

  • @xmodrock That has always blew my mind , ford put great parts into the engine making that possible they did'nt play around plus it's iron block, i have seen 1000 horse LT1's at the track being iron also, of course they will need new internals.

  • @luvscience44 yea... the 99 cobras blocks were wicked strong... but if your gonna run 1000HP or sumthin you gotta get forged internals.. the 03-04s are possibly the best mustangs around

  • @xmodrock

    Some early 01 cobras had the teskid block I know mine does. These blocks are good for about 1200hp where the wap block is good for about 700ish max.

  • @The2001cobra i got the teskid in my 99.. id love to see my toy making 1200HP but the internals are not rated for that

  • @TheMpatton really? i have an 01 ss, be fine for how long? 10,000miles and then u blow it up? No thanks.

  • @TheMpatton you can do the same with an 03 cobra

  • HRE Wheels cost to much

  • MOPAR OR NO CAR MOTHER FUCKERS

  • Built whippled cobra against a stock 402 ss WOW

  • well first its a kenne bell and second where do u get stock 402? it says h/c not stroked

  • LOL, the cobra engine is closer to stock than the SS is...

  • That whole race looked bullshit and role played. And yet it started a whole debate. LS1's faster. Take off that SC and the Mustangs got no balls.

  • LMAO, yeah, lets take factory parts off other cars also, maybe take off the factory turbo on the Porsche, maybe take off the factory S/C on the ZR1, and the Ford GT, also take of the factory twin turbos on the Nissan GTR..

    The Terminator was born with a S/C, and a built engine, built for power, positive pressure, and boost!!! Its faster then a Camaro Ls1, or any Camaro for that matter, face the facts bone head!!!

  • I applaud you sir I was about to tell him off until I saw your comment well said!

  • Thanks!

    I wish they screened the people, or did a background check (like they do for pistol permits) before you were allowed to post on you tube, half these shit for brains, morons, shit stirrers, problem starters, jealous, incorrectly informed dirt bags wouldnt be here..

    Its really amazing, they get their drivers license, chat with a few of their stoned friends, and become a car expert over night, and will argue with you (even when dead wrong) and spew total fictitious BS!

  • hmmm if i had to guess id say you my friend... are a republican too.....and prolly from the south aswell???yes???

  • Any other camaro. You are retarded dude. I have seen stock LS1 camaro's go 12.5' and 12.6's in the 1/4. Just think what it could do with a few bolt ons,h/c/i set up. While the termis are good cars, they will never match an LS1. Lets supercharge or turbo an LS1, for instance a guy on LS1 tech that has 472/513 with 7.5 psi on a stock motor. The 4.6 is good but not an LS1.

  • Im a retard? Please jack ass! Its twice the engine, fully forged, and can handle much more power, and can make much more power then an LS1, and it makes over 100 HP more, stock!

    Right, LS1 SS's go 12's, and my stock cobra goes 11's.. Your lucky to see mid 13's, how do I know, I have 2 of them. The 98 Na Cobra beats out the LS1 ss, and thats a mid 13 second car at best

    I love your stories.. My uncles cousins brothers best friends sisters boyfriend has a Civic that goes 7's on pump gas.. STFU.

  • I would take a terminator forged blown 4.6 over an LS1 any day! It makes way more power stock, and can make way more power modded, its already forged and built!

    Your a idiot and a liar, plain an simple, and you dont gain 200 HP from 7.5 psi alone, maybe with a 100 shot. You just proved your stupidity, conversation over.

  • a typical mustang guy, "no way an LS1 can do that because my car can't". And yes he only had 7.5 psi. And I would not say it will make more power modded, fully mod both then see, or give the LS1 boost.

  • Bozo, my car does, stock.. At least quote me correctly. SVT Terminator Cobra's are in the 12's, stock, and in the mid 4's 0-60, STOCK, LS1 Camaros (I own them also) are not! Please dont incorrectly try and educate me on facts, thanks!

    You need some education, and you wont get it from teenagers on a shit car forum, or from Youtube, get a clue.

  • I have seen it done first hand.

    I will find you the link from a magazine, a bone stock 2001 camaro SS ran 12's.

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  • I have nothing against the LS1 but it is alot bigger than a 4.6

    281ci vs 350ci

    The S/c Dohc has its advantages but the LS1 has brute power

    I have a low 12 sec Cobra and my biggest competition up here is the LS1 camaro's and the LS2 Gto's

    I gotta give credit where credit is due but its about preference

    LS1= BIg displacment and big power

    Dohc 4.6= Small displacment and surpirsing power

  • well said

  • LMAO.. Big displacement? 350 CI isnt big, and its only 1100cc's bigger then a 4.6l

    Modded, the LS1 can make power, but isnt nearly as strong stock, or modded as the Terminator engine is. Stock for stock, or mod for mod, the Forged Cobra engine makes more power, alot.

    Get some more experience under your belt, you just got your drivers license last year for god sakes.

  • i have a stock ls1 with a 200 shot. and i molest 03 04 pullyed cobras..nuff said

  • A stock ls1 cant handle a 100 shot on its non forged internals.. So you yourself must have been molested. As I said, stock for stock, or mod for mod, 03/04 Cobras kill ls1's, 2's, or 3's.. Sorry if that fact upsets you.

  • ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS! YOUR FULL OF SHI! your a 4.6L nutswinger shut your fucking mouth you have no intellect what so ever look up cincyspeed in cincinatti ohio and tell them you cant put 200 shot on a ls1 motor..kid a professionally installed 200 shot with a arming switch and a safety cutoff sensor. you can.

  • You need to get your facts straight. you dont evan have any youtube videos ur just a bitch..with a lid. hooker headers and a exhaust you can easily run a 200 shot. why am i Evan arguing with you...im done

  • I need videos on you tube to prove something to you? Please, your a kid lol, with BS videos on here!

    Exhaust and a lid have nothing to do with how save a shot of nitrous is or how much you can use. Get a clue and learn about engines before you run your mouth!

    Did you just get your license? You look and act like your 17, LMAO!

  • im 18 years old ive had my license for 2 and a half years and yes headers help when your using nos.

  • Point made, thanks!

    Please dont send me BS videos, like a so called stock TA on a 150 shot beating a TT Cobra and the TA went mid 12's. That Cobra is a low 9 second 700 HP car. My Cobra went 12.4 bone stock, and 11.6 with a 2.8 pulley making 475 WHP. Again, I dont want to talk with an YO fool.

  • @TheLS1Killer Your an idiot, who have you been talking to? Everything that I just read is the biggest load of bull shit, the LS1 with a (ONE) turbo would destroy any Cobra you could bring. Mod for mod huh, well let an LS1 bolt on a Super charger and watch your enthusiasm for Ford get crushed. Idiots like you in America make me so glad to just drive down the road for a chance to spank you and send you crying to your moms house. What a fucking retard, a Cobra outrun an LS1, 2 or 3. Never happen.

  • @SSCamaroMan345 basicly what he's saying is, stock for stock, mod for mod... the Cobra will always be faster. especially for the money spent. you say an LS1 with a turbo would destroy it? maybe... but that wouldn't be stock anymore now would it? Cobra's are supercharged from the factory making it stock.

  • @TheLS1Killer Go check this video out if you don't believe an LS1 can handle a 100 shot of NOS. (04 Cobra vs 99 Camaro Z28)

  • 346ci is what the camaro is btw. and what year is ur cobra??

  • My cobra is an 03

    And it runs low 12's cuz of the 2.76 pulley, cold air, longtube headers, or x and slp loudmouth 1's

    plus the 10 1/2 wide drag radials help

  • Nice.. But you can be in the 11's, no problem.

  • its been too cold up here for the past month... the track wont hold even with the wider tires

  • That mustang is supercharged for the record. I can hear it

  • hmmm you mean like every other 03/04 cobra from the factory??

  • Cheaper yes (a lil), faster no. Kselkow they haven't been faster since the early 90s. Stock for stock the 04 Cobra is the faster car but that one was not cheaper.

  • yeah 5hp difference from a smaller engine which means its much more efficient. and thats bone stock no supercharger. camaros are all the same all noise and show but not as much go, they do look good but so what mustangs are cheaper and faster and have more wins in every category the two have been in.

  • not the new camaro. shit the v6 camaro has 14 less horsepower than the v8 mustang GT. now that is hilarious

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • o yea but ford is bringing back the 5.0l v8 ford the Mustang GT and it will have 433hp and the GT500 will have The new 6.2l v8 hurricane w/ 600+ hp and guess wat els they are building another supercar to take the GT's place and they claim the base model will have the 6.2l w/ 600+ hp and another model will have a Ford 7.5l V8 460 Cid hahah lets talk about big engines doodge wont stand a chance

  • yeah have fun keeping it in a straight line.....lol and im a ford guy.....i know how hard it is already

  • @Dmbnigga4life actually the 5.0 only goin 2 have 402 bhp meaning mayb 360ish wheel and they arnt making it after all anymore and ur talkn bout the ford gt1 or whatever the 1 tht luks like an aston martin(yes i kno ford owned em) thats not bein made either

  • @cienporcientoculopri wat r u smokin??? they r makin the 5.0 and it really has 422hp at the crank Ford underrated it for Insurence claims so they rated it at 412hp and the gt1 is just a concept 4now they might maki it they might not

  • @Dmbnigga4life idk man i recently read only 400 crank and im sure there insurance purposes excuse dnt slide no more they dont have 2 worry no more and recently it said it wasnt goin 2 be made no more but im sure it is and for a fact i kno they said the gt1 wasnt being made becuz it was goin 2 be over 200k price and ford wouldnt be able 2 becuz theyd loose more money then gain on making it

  • im a camaro guy since we're getting into this. Stock for stock cobra wins because it does come with a SC but take the S/C away you pretty much got a mustang GT. SC and turbos are only viagra for the cars. stick a SC on a ls1 PLEASE and then tell me the cobra will be faster... Most cheaply done SCed ls1s pushed at least 420 horsepower.... AT LEAST.

  • wrong without the blower you have 320 hp which in 2004 was far better than teh gt and oh wait the camaro didnt exist because no one wants to buy a bloated overweight car

  • oh wow 5 hp difference... there was no 04' camaro because they stopped making them in 02' due it making the corvette less popular because you got the same motor in a Camaro and Firebird. Honestly performance wise if they think a LS motor isnt better than Ford's regular 4.6L motor your dumb. Even if it only had 320 horsepower its still slower than an LS1.

  • @kselkow the camaro was light and faster then the n/a cobra they didnt want 2 buy it anymore becuz it didnt come blown an built stock

  • weak ass race!

  • duh. Thats cuz its a Kenne Bell.

  • actually the 02 SS and the 03/04 cobra are so closely matched that race will come right down to the driver both car have consistent low 13 1/4 mile passes and both have also hit high 12's with the right conditions its a drivers race stock vs stock but when you start modding the engines the camaro has the better engine by far

  • FAKE. The Camaro never got on it. I've had my expeience with both cars, and the Camaro's are way faster, the SS models and the Z28's

  • Bro u can see the front end on the SS lift and hear the motor. You got to remember this is a KB Cobra too so i estimate near 500rwhp for the cobra. Heads and cam on the SS probably like 450-500rwhp depending on what he means by head/Cam. Does it mean the heads are ported/polished or valve train or both? What kind of cam does he have can matter too.

  • im not saying IF im saying my camaro ss would be that slowbra.

  • wow. you should probably mention that the cobra has a friggen kenne bell. It's probably putting down over 600rwhp.

  • thankx

  • there you go again saying IF the camaro had this if the camaro had that, the point is it doesnt, IF the guys over at GM were smart they wouldnt be asking the govt for a bail out so the IF's in life dont really count for much at all hahahah

  • Well said! Seems the word IF always comes out when someone loses.

  • Thats a KB supercharger..

  • hahaha did u just hear yourself, you can make an LS1 very quick with 12000 hahahaha with 12 grand you can make a cobra a 8 second daily driver lmfao twin turbo bitch...and still streetable, cobra block good for 1300hp LS1 block good for 750-800 at best, the terminator will always be superior to the LSWhat motors

  • well yea because the ls1 motors are aluminum and the slowbras are steel so it could handle more power put a steel 6 bolt main lsx motor in there thats capable of handling 2500 hp cant say shit bout that

  • Why do people consistently fight over this? In the end its who ever has more money has the faster car.

  • thats the dam truth

  • it was a kb. not the stock eaton

  • obviously smart guy

  • god i hate the sound of a cobra thats the most annoying sound on a car ever... the squeaking brakes of my truck sound better than that