God and Morality - The Atheist Experience 722

[ISMASHYOUBRO]

I wonder if Mark was trolling the whole time. Was he really being sincere with the drivel he was putting out?

[warnation101]

Wow Mark does British accent. Hehehe.

[Akira625]

Who the hell does Mark think he's fooling anyway? I call shenanigans!

[GlenEricFM]

Three Types of People that usually look at these Videos..(A) "Arrogant-Religious People", (B) "Closed-Minded Atheists", and (C) "Rational Religious & Atheist People" A and B Usually Engage in Heated Debates and Stand Firm on their "Beliefs" Group (C) Will most likely Disregard Videos like this, OR Look for Videos like this to Improve their Knowledge then Leave without being Offended and Return to their Lives Feeling more Enlightened More or Less, and wont Involve themselves into Conflict. lol..

[samaroo96]

Friend, Lots of things does exist but you can not proof by logics, by scientific evidence or by five physical sense. Can you you proof Love, Hate or compassion ? By hug or killing still not a proof of Love or hate. All such things does exist but can not be proof but we can FEEL in us. Same way God is Love, you can't proof it but you can FEEL Him in you if You Give Him a Chance.

[BastEternal]

@samaroo96 I shouldn't have to give a supreme sky daddy a "chance" to do anything, much less 'prove' itself through "Feelings" that can and are often misinterpreted.

I'm here..if there's a supreme being that knows it all, it knows EXACTLY where I am, it knows what it would have to do to convince me of its existence.

Also, love, hate and compassion are feelings, states of mind. Are you saying that "god" is a feeling, a state of mind? Then why call it god?

[spareaxe]

Wow....this guy got schooled not only on the bible but, life in general.

[DemimondXXIII]

this guy is more annoying than SoG. At least he could be honest enough not to lie and call under different names to protect dogmatic point of view which tells you that lies are bad. I wonder if he's even a christian or maybe some non-christian troll who wants to look really stupid for people to laugh at. Then again, you might see really retarded believers these days.

P.S.: sorry for my english, not my first language.

[samaroo96]

NO matter how loud you cry or shout that there is No God. Echo sound will hit you again and again that HE IS. No matter how hard you may try to justify your sins, you can not escape from them. Sinner must pay their account of Sins. You have only two options. Pay by your self or accept that Jesus Christ paid for you. There is no other way to escape. Accept The Gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ or be ready to get punishment for your sins which you have done in your body. I will advise, pleas

[chadwick0091]

@samaroo96 can you do us all a favor n stfu? thanks.

[hydrall9]

@samaroo96 It's pretty hard to join a religion where the people in it are threatening me with the wrath of a divine entity who supposedly loves all his creations.

[richd506]

@samaroo96 Um you do realize this is the internet do you?

[realtyofislam]

@richd506 Yes, I do realise that I am on internet. That is why I am trying to save people specially youths from the deception of Atheism. In fact Atheism have nothing to do with Science. I do support Science and its incredible inventions. But I condemn Evolution theory. Because its a LIE and deceive many in the name of Science. Darwin just gave an idea and theory based on his own thoughts and imagination. He did not gave any Scientific evidence nor inventing anything for benefit of men

[VesusSheist]

@realtyofislam What is your evidence that overturns evolutionary theory?

[BastEternal]

@realtyofislam How is atheism a "deception"? And how is evolutionary theory a lie and a deception?

As an aside, I'm sick and tired of folks bringing up Darwin as if evolution is ONLY based on his ideas. I support evolution because I've examined some of the evidence (i.e. the human coccyx and gills that change to lungs in frogs, to name 2 examples) in biology class and through research, not because Darwin said so.

[BastEternal]

@samaroo96

I advise you to research the science of echos. Learn how echos work, because they generally repeat the last word spoken.

I also advise you to consider your audience. "Sins" are what a "god" determines to be bad, based on claims in an old book. Why would atheists care what "god" thinks when atheists lack belief that a god exists?

The rest of your post is one big argument from emotion/fear.

Atheists generally don't listen to that either.

[hellhammerz666]

Nvm... i just read the comments and it seems it's not just me, lol.

[hellhammerz666]

Is it me or that's the Stone Church guy that has called 239845720934 times pretending to have an accent?

[jaketaylor015]

Agreed with the top comment, I'm from London and I could tell instantly, it was a bad attempt.

[mikamudd]

Maybe mark isn't trolling maybe he just has split personalities?

[Joshuaxiong2]

10:20 Woot I am the same also. Many answers and yes contradicting with itself in the bible.

[Joshuaxiong2]

7:20 Call out! lol

[pompousprick]

07:20 Um... Hello.... Fundamentalist Christian for 25 years.....

He might as well have put his hand up and said.. Um.. Hello... Brainwashed retard for 25 years...

[greyeyed123]

Look at Beth's reaction at 00:09 . I can't believe I've never noticed that, lol.

[dahuterschuter]

Mark switches around from English to Australian to New Zealand accents.

[Neeboopsh]

Thou shalt not bear false witness. False identities must not fall under the prohibition.

[gspendlove]

"You sound lahk youah from London!"

[Lennon4ever1]

I laugh my ass of when a theist calls and claims to know the mind of God and what he said! -He'a poe alright

[5jerry1]

This caller is an idiot. The "torturing babies" example is just awful. No intelligent being would ever do this. Even animals in the wild don't do this.

[ajmolaliful]

i would love to a hear a muslim callup this show and listen to the conversation about the topic of god and morality.

[chadwick0091]

@ajmolaliful Lol. Tha would be a bit of a change =)

[IslamIsRetardation]

@chadwick0091 It would be awesome seeing him getting pawned.

[BraidedLily]

This is another one who sounds like Mark. Bad fake accent.

[MrEmeraldfusion]

God was an immoral...so he could get better later. The God character in the bible is psychopathic irrational and instead of actually taking responsibility for his failures he blames his creation and instead simply forgiving them decides to torture them forever.

[ArghCake]

His accent is really annoying.

[Christheatheist1]

Hey! It's 'Banana Girl!' I love her. She was the best poe I ever heard LOL!

[Christheatheist1]

No matter what name he uses, or what phony accent he employs he is still a plonker asking the same, worn out question. Mark is a troll and on about the same level as Schlockofscrod.

[HyperSchmizzle]

It's Mark from Austin Stone Church!

[mahmoudyzadeh]

The claim that Jesus the man existed is not extraordinary, and would be on a similar level to the claim that Socrates did/didn't exist. The extra claims about who or what exactly Jesus was and the things he did however...

BTW this guy does not have a native English accent but almost, it just has a s light twang to it - Scandinavian or Antipodian.

[DisWldFrk90]

I've heard the Alexander the Great argument several times. #1 He did not take over the world. He took over Greece and Persia. He didn't get a chance to get all he wanted cause his men got tired. #2 There is good evidence that he did conquer what it says he got, historians agree. #3 If you compare the amount of land he got to the amount of land Hitler got it's very close. If Hitler could do it, Alexander can. It's not as extraordinary as it's implied. It is possible.

[henf5671]

i will pray for all of you that one day your arrogance will fade away. 

[DasHinchen]

@henf5671 ok then I'll sacrifice a goat for you in return.

[GregJPreece]

I knew this dude was a troll within the first three seconds of the call. I'm a native of the tea-noshing homeland, and that sure as hell isn't a London accent. That's the "London" accent you hear in bad US sitcoms.

[squreshi10]

According to some religions, torturing children is good. See FGM.

[EASYTIGER10]

Maybe Mark should have worked on his English accent a bit more...

[manchesterfellow]

Wh do I feel the need to apoligise on behalf of the UK for this guy!?

[dymchurch1]

@manchesterfellow Thanks for the sentiment but I'm told that our televangelists can be seen on your TV channels. We are the ones who owe you guys an apology. On the other hand Australia does owe us an apology for Ken Hamm and Ray Comfort :)

[AmyInChains161]

Mark/Thomas/Mike/Andrew/BillyB­itchCakes is a bit of a nutcase, isn't he?

[wealthmaster71]

WOW! Nearly bring me to tears to hear such a misguided human being. Teaching kids to be christians should be punished.

[triangl]

terrible terrible british accent!

[FornicateThySofa]

Damn this woman needs to get pretty

[BigLundi]

@FornicateThySofa Matt apparently felt she was pretty enough to marry : /

[dkthg]

Who the hell is Chris Langdon and what is a "poe"? I'm asking seriously.

[chadwick0091]

@dkthg Chris Langan is a somewhat famous guy b/c he has one of the highest I.Q.s in the world. he came up with the CTMU (cognitive theoretical model of the universe) and includes God in that model. A "poe" is basically just a prank caller. that answer your questions? =)

[dkthg]

@chadwick0091 Yes indeed. Thanx bro.

[chadwick0091]

@dkthg no prob

[TomVodkaCollins]

@chadwick0091 Evidence that high intelligence isn't proof against delusional states.

[omnissience]

@chadwick0091 i just googled him. A creationist bar bouncer with no education who claims to have an IQ of 210 that i can't back up. As fake as Kent Hovinds PHD.

[JPhinfan86]

@dkthg I do think it's important to note what "poe" represents though Chadwick. DK, look up "Poe's Law".

[aegisgfx]

This is that Stone Church asshole, I'm sure of it....

[chadwick0091]

@aegisgfx yeah. read description

[aegisgfx]

@chadwick0091

missed that, good catch

[chadwick0091]

@aegisgfx no prob

[Keitaro2011]

I lol'd when he got into Adam.

[ews773]

Matt, how do you have patience with these callers? It seems all the Christian callers want to do is yell and scream in the name of Jesus; not have an intelligent conversation.

[Xsuprio]

Torturing babies... you mean circumcision?

[chadwick0091]

@Xsuprio excellent point!

[gabrieloshiro]

uahuahauha mark calling as a british.... wtf is wrong with that guy?

[VesusSheist]

Mark has gone from a genuine, good-hearted christian to a trolling, dishonest prick. I thought they got through to him...now I wish he would just get a life and stop calling.

[UnlimitedRaikoh]

God i love Mr Dillahunty. He's like the Darth Vader of Atheist Arguing. Make a stupid point and he'll Force Choke the fuck outta your debate.

[WeskerPG]

i have a dragon pet <3

pogona vitticeps <3

other than that i agree xD

[free2rock85]

I believe God exist but God isn't a man as we all imagine he is...God create this earth, there are many elements to create this earth: soil, water, air, fire....all those things are Gods!

[HuyerPercussive]

@free2rock85 so you praise gaia.

[free2rock85]

@HuyerPercussive no I don't praise gaia, if you think God is the ultimate power, try to stand in front of the hurricane instead of running inside the house because I'm sure God will protect you right? There are so many powerful stuff on this earth than "God".

[HuyerPercussive]

@free2rock85 well, i don't believe in god so i probably wouldn't stand in front of it OR use a house as protection... i'd probably do what any logical person would and EVACUATE.

[xtimrs]

Wow, this show is excellent.

[JohnGolbunny]

Wow...this guy "Mark" is honestly hilarious. I'm surprised Matt didn't call him out on his bullshit. He obviously knows it's him.

[SUNSHINE21480]

10:02 I did not elect Adam as my representative!!! lmao!!!  (i really am too)

[malesuspect2]

That's a really bad fake English accent.

[Silent33091]

5:00 i was like lolwut? :O

[XrayDL]

Lol @ mark

[sailornaruto39]

"(AKA:Mark/Mike/Bob/Andrew/Geo­rge)."

ok i thought i have heard him before

[jcgadfly]

As often as this guy calls in to get reamed - he must have a goatse level sphincter (sorry for planting that image)

[la2111]

The caller was from the UK - does anyone know what TV channel this is on? I'm assuming it will be on some obscure satellite channel. Or is it from the internets?



[chadwick0091]

@la2111 he's not actually from London...he's a troll that keeps calling into the show and disguising his voice. he's called in like 5 different times. but the show is broadcasted over the internet on Sundays from 4:30-5:30PM CDT. there's a link for the internet stream on the Atheist Experience website

[JohnGolbunny]

@chadwick0091 Hey bro, great vid! I absolutely love this guys calls and how Matt destroys him. Do you have his calls when he calls in under Bob, George, and Mike?

[JohnGolbunny]

@chadwick0091 Whoops...it's right in your description!! Thanks!

[chadwick0091]

@JohnGolbunny no prob!

[HuyerPercussive]

@chadwick0091 is this the troll who calls in under the name, mark?? it sounds like him.

[VesusSheist]

@HuyerPercussive Yes, it's Mark. He called in recently as another name, trying to disguise his voice in a different way this time.

[hobbohippy2]

@la2111 i think on a few of the shows the host tells you what website it shows live so you can watch it online live ino its on on sundays at some time

[imralav]

Religious discussion aside..that woman seriously creeps me out!

[mroldschoolhiphop1]

this is mark.

[Siipilintu]

8:11 That was just rude ):

[WelshMidget]

This makes me ashamed to be British... :(

[JMUDoc]

"If there is no god, where do you think we get universal morals from?"

Wrong definition of "universal morals". If somebody says "X is wrong in all circumstances", this isn't a universal moral; it's that person's opinion, and adding "in all circumstances" doesn't change that.

A universal moral would be "X is wrong in all circumstances NO MATTER what anybody thinks." Have THOSE been demonstrated to exist? How would you even do that?

"... in the Old Testament." BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tool.

[dejesusluisx]

God is a spirit, an immaterial conscious being. All things in the universe consists of matter and/or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is the capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, wasn't created and can't be destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. Therefore is plausible that God exists.

[chadwick0091]

@dejesusluisx no. energy = energy...god =/= energy. come to think of it, all of these characteristics of this "God" that you're describing are strikingly similar, almost identical, to my good friend The Flying Spaghetti Monster. ;)

[ganados0]

@chadwick0091 Or Wolperts computer.

[JMUDoc]

@dejesusluisx

So your argument is

God is energy

Energy exists

Therefore God's existence is plausible

OK, here's mine:

God is a cheese sandwich

Cheese sandwiches exist

Therefore God's existence is plausible

Calling your god "energy" gets you nowhere - if your god and energy are synonymous, then of course your god exists (as does my cheese sandwich god), but only by vritue of linguistic equivalence.

[dejesusluisx]

@JMUDoc The definition of God is in the Bible, and I didn't made up the definition of energy either. And is too much of a coincidence that the only thing in the universe capable of making matter was defined scientifically the same way God is defined biblically. I'm just putting 2+2 together. When you consider that the ancient goat herders didn't have a clue of what they were talking about, the coincidence is awesome.

[dejesusluisx]

@JMUDoc As I posted previously, the definition of God is in the Bible, and I didn't made up the definition of energy either. The Bible was written first and no one knew energy. It's too much of a coincidence that the only thing in the universe capable of making matter was defined scientifically the same way God is defined biblically. I'm just putting 2+2 together. When you consider that the ancient goat herders didn't have a clue of what they were talking about, this is more than a coincidence.

[54NT14G0]

@dejesusluisx energy is not forgiving nor jealous nor does it have a definite moral character.

[hobbohippy2]

yes people there are stupid englishman too!! ino its really grim

[pupsenok]

@hobbohippy2

It is not a stupid Englishman. It is a stupid American disguising his voice as an Englishman...and doing a piss-poor job of it. His real name is Mark and he is a frequent caller fro the Stone Church in Austin, Texas.

[hobbohippy2]

@pupsenok haha!! i listened to it again and i actually realised it was him, hes such a fukin loser haha. does he change his name and accent because the atheist experience doesn't accept his calls or something? 

[bekacynthia]

who the hell is this weird woman with this sunshine clothes??

[chadwick0091]

@bekacynthia it's his fiancé

[olelumpy]

Morality isn't "well you think this is right and I think it's wrong so screw you" it's a majority run system. Most people don't like getting murdered, or robbed, or punched in the face so those things are immoral. As soon as the majority of people like those things happening to themselves then they will become morally justified. But at that point those things would be bringing joy.

[examinationboard]

Woman on the left looks like she is strait out of a painting. 

[MarcusEFN]

Creationists: I'm right, you're wrong! La-La-La-La-La-La!

[chadwick0091]

@MarcusEFN lol, that just about sums it up! =D

[FabisDB]

Hahah Mike's british accent sucks... He is such a masochist.

[ContainsLanguage]

I would've spotted that bollocks British accent straight away.

[saburius]

Hard to believe that Stone Church guy from Austin is for real. Describing this as a self-inflicted mental illness would be right on the money.

[twooffour]

@saburius

He's a troll. Came clean in email.

[MrEmeraldfusion]

Leviticus 21:9

And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

So the woman was to be burned to death?

[JennaSmith987]

Cute Couple. I hope they get married soon.

[olofski666]

WAIT A MINUTE! Is that Mike from Austin!?!

[chadwick0091]

@olofski666 yes. read the description

[olofski666]

@chadwick0091 Oh shit... sorry 'bout that, mte :P

[chadwick0091]

@olofski666 it's all good bro

[4me2cclearly]

Wait! He got nailed to a cross and tortured for me? this happened 2000 years before my birth? and as soon as i am born i already have this debt? The debt can only be paid by ignoring evidence and reason and relying squarely on faith? what kind of a messed up system is this?

"Science adjusts it's views based on what is observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved."-Tim Minchin

[chadwick0091]

@4me2cclearly great comment!

[tuggleprentiss]

@4me2cclearly 'and as soon as i am born i already have this debt?"

No you acquire that debt by your own personal sins. It isn't from birth.