i live in finland and everyone is insured by the government. we have great health care services public and private. The government here is CONSERVATIVE (pro business). Its not socialism just sensible. America will be insured by corporations. God Help You.
Mere hours after fed Judge R Vinson, became 2nd fed judge to find Ocare Section1501 unconstitutional, anonymous W House official called to question Judge Vinson's entire ruling, telling reporters, "Something thoroughly odd and unconventional about the analysis." only thing "odd and unconventional" is W House's attempt to undermine legitimacy of a coequal branch of government.
Actually, he is being consistent and is not talking against the mandate. In the new law there is a CHOICE, not a mandate. Have good insurance or opt to pay a tax for being uninsured. Medicaid is substantially expanded and subsidized by the federal government so it puts very little pressure on the States. Even relatively well off can get affordability subsidies. So the poor don't get poorer but get good insurance at an affordable price.
America, the task before us is to stop this man and his Party from turning the United States into the Soviet Union or worse. First, we need to take back the House. Vote EARL SHOLLEY for Congress, Massachusetts 4th District , running against Barney Frank! Find out how you can help or get involved at sholleyforcongress.us! Election is September 14th.
Obamas' substantive difference is he LIES, decieves and does anything to get what HE wants done. Hillary just didn't quite get past the professional lieing and decieving part and has no race card to jack up.
Force people to get health insurance? Hold on...flipping through the pages....I can't seem to find where the federal government has the Constitutional authority to force the people to engage in interstate (or any other) commerce.
[Male announcer]: But heres the real difference on health care. Senators Edwards and Clinton favor mandates which the Daily Iowan says would, quote, force those who cannot afford health insurance to buy it, punishing those who dont fall in line.
[Female Announcer]: As the Concord Monitor says, when it comes to honesty about health care, Obama has the edge. -Source: AdWatch of 2008 campaign ad, Health care Jan 1, 2008
changed his mind? He didn't change his mind. He just said what needed to be said to get elected. The HC bill isn't about health care, its about govt control. If it wasn't there wouldn't be a fine for those who choose not to buy the govt mandated plan.
@ColtSteel25 Instead of swollowing industry talking points perhaps you should actually look at the plan? There is no govt control, there isn't even a public insurance option, just very light regulations. The govt mandated PRIVATE health insurance, and the Obama plan currently enacted, is nearly identical to the republican proposal in the 1990s
Research before you comment. The fees attached to the individual mandates are much different, because they are UNENFORCEABLE. Excerpt: "The penalty [for not purchasing insurance]is not subject to...enforcement. The use of liens and seizures otherwise authorized for collection of taxes does not apply to the collection of this penalty. Non-compliance...is not subject to criminal or civil penalties...and interest does not accrue for failure to pay such assessments in a timely manner."
He did say "both of us seek to get universal healthcare". Cant believe that people against this.. the rest of the western world has universal healthcare... its uncilivised not to have it. About time America caught up with the rest of the world.. But i suppose that is what you get when a country is run by lobbyist..
Wow, he has no promise without an expiration date. He just signed a law with the very thing he was arguing against in it! I feel sorry for anyone he may have fooled.
I think it is smart to learn from your opponents and incorporate the best ideas instead of being 'I'm always right'. Getting any kind of major change passed into legislation is difficult and requires compromise and President Obama has shown he is pragmatic but determined and that's why we've got the first major health care reform since Medicare passed.
Anything this president says is nothing but lies. How many "promises, pledges and statements" have expired since he raised his hand and took the oath of office. One big one "I will sign no bill until the public has five days to read it"! He took what 36 hours!
Well, at least Obama televised all the health care debates on C-Span like he promised. No?
OK, then at least Obama posted the health care bill on the Internet for five days before signing it like he promised. No?
Mmm, well at least our first "post-partisan" president garnered wide-spread bi-partisan support for such a sweeping overhaul of health care legislation, and not the "50+1" tactic that he derided. No?
Instead of sending someone to an emergency room for treatment for asthma, just give them a breathalyzer, or an inhalator or wait a minuet, OK, see the Attachment.
I told someone about this last summer. The very mandates that Barack flamed Hillary for in 2008 are now law. They didn't believe me. I'm still wondering why people that were so desperate for health care are going to have to waith 4 years for the coverage in this bill to actually begin. That's going to make some excellent sob stories. I can see it now "Person X dies from X disease while waiting 4 years for Obamacare to kick in."
It's amazing how hard it is to convince people that Obama flipped on this. People who explained this TO ME when I supported Hillary now deny he ever said it.. Obviously, Obama's drop in popularity shows some people realize they were fooled. But he's framed as a messiah or a 'historical president' and some people can't accept any criticism of Obama is valid.
These people will probably riot when he is ousted in November 2012. Already a lot of people are pretending we're in civil war.
I want to say 'yes we can', but the fact is that being a liar and convincing idiots to elect you is not a felony. Sadly, there was ample evidence this guy was not being open about his views, and he was elected anyway. We're getting the government we deserve, sadly.
modustheoperandi its not a joke. the obama of then is tearing apart what the obama of now just past. so its ironic, there are jokes to be made (or crying), you STFU.
Thank you for the awesome video upload!
lorainedecaro 2 months ago
i live in finland and everyone is insured by the government. we have great health care services public and private. The government here is CONSERVATIVE (pro business). Its not socialism just sensible. America will be insured by corporations. God Help You.
hauskalainen 11 months ago
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Hi All,
Mere hours after fed Judge R Vinson, became 2nd fed judge to find Ocare Section1501 unconstitutional, anonymous W House official called to question Judge Vinson's entire ruling, telling reporters, "Something thoroughly odd and unconventional about the analysis." only thing "odd and unconventional" is W House's attempt to undermine legitimacy of a coequal branch of government.
MrD5147 11 months ago
FInes because they can't afford it? Gee, where have I heard that since? God he such a jackass.
MrEX3 1 year ago
"Have good insurance or opt to pay a tax for being uninsured
Yeah that's called a mandate...
CSeanHu8 1 year ago
Actually, he is being consistent and is not talking against the mandate. In the new law there is a CHOICE, not a mandate. Have good insurance or opt to pay a tax for being uninsured. Medicaid is substantially expanded and subsidized by the federal government so it puts very little pressure on the States. Even relatively well off can get affordability subsidies. So the poor don't get poorer but get good insurance at an affordable price.
hauskalainen 1 year ago
@hauskalainen "and the world will be a better place, for you, and me, just wait, and see!" Yeay!! Let's all hold hands and praise socialism.
chiesiayowkaugae 11 months ago
America, the task before us is to stop this man and his Party from turning the United States into the Soviet Union or worse. First, we need to take back the House. Vote EARL SHOLLEY for Congress, Massachusetts 4th District , running against Barney Frank! Find out how you can help or get involved at sholleyforcongress.us! Election is September 14th.
snakedoc67 1 year ago
Uhhhh... where is that teleprompter?
cbetancourt 1 year ago
The Kenyan Emperor lying to the American People! Everything hi said was a hoax!
RobertRobls 1 year ago
I tired of listening to this man several years ago. Good bye.
rick4001cs 1 year ago
Obamas' substantive difference is he LIES, decieves and does anything to get what HE wants done. Hillary just didn't quite get past the professional lieing and decieving part and has no race card to jack up.
MrReadandlearn 1 year ago
Lying Marxist rat in the White House!
cyanide585 1 year ago
Force people to get health insurance? Hold on...flipping through the pages....I can't seem to find where the federal government has the Constitutional authority to force the people to engage in interstate (or any other) commerce.
cbarr70 1 year ago
Fucking Hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zander4020 1 year ago
Excerpt from Obama radio ad that ran in Iowa:
[Male announcer]: But heres the real difference on health care. Senators Edwards and Clinton favor mandates which the Daily Iowan says would, quote, force those who cannot afford health insurance to buy it, punishing those who dont fall in line.
[Female Announcer]: As the Concord Monitor says, when it comes to honesty about health care, Obama has the edge. -Source: AdWatch of 2008 campaign ad, Health care Jan 1, 2008
paper000000 1 year ago
BOTH of them are pathological liars. PERIOD.
IslandSpiceDreamin 1 year ago 2
Need to throw out lying socialist Obama.
He changed his mind on this after taking office.
libertyplayground 1 year ago
changed his mind? He didn't change his mind. He just said what needed to be said to get elected. The HC bill isn't about health care, its about govt control. If it wasn't there wouldn't be a fine for those who choose not to buy the govt mandated plan.
ColtSteel25 1 year ago
@ColtSteel25 Instead of swollowing industry talking points perhaps you should actually look at the plan? There is no govt control, there isn't even a public insurance option, just very light regulations. The govt mandated PRIVATE health insurance, and the Obama plan currently enacted, is nearly identical to the republican proposal in the 1990s
PhoenixIreland 1 year ago
Research before you comment. The fees attached to the individual mandates are much different, because they are UNENFORCEABLE. Excerpt: "The penalty [for not purchasing insurance]is not subject to...enforcement. The use of liens and seizures otherwise authorized for collection of taxes does not apply to the collection of this penalty. Non-compliance...is not subject to criminal or civil penalties...and interest does not accrue for failure to pay such assessments in a timely manner."
bodinebri 1 year ago
He did say "both of us seek to get universal healthcare". Cant believe that people against this.. the rest of the western world has universal healthcare... its uncilivised not to have it. About time America caught up with the rest of the world.. But i suppose that is what you get when a country is run by lobbyist..
teaj84 1 year ago
This guy is an idiot... liar.. two faced... didn't CHANGE anything except his campaign platform.
jaku4058 1 year ago
He'll never respond to any questions about this video.
What a dirty, two-faced, arrogant, lying douche bag.
Lurple 1 year ago
I just saw this and find it very interesting. I wonder how he would explain this video.
schatzi011 1 year ago
Wow, he has no promise without an expiration date. He just signed a law with the very thing he was arguing against in it! I feel sorry for anyone he may have fooled.
giejon 1 year ago 4
share this on facebook everyone!
garysJr 1 year ago
Once again, Obama is shown to be the liar he is.
mitchblatt1dot1com 1 year ago 2
The moron is actually "Pathetic" except for the fact that he is a pure liar when he talks.
Instantrebate1 1 year ago 4
He's the anti Kerry... He was against it before he was for it!
gdshaver 1 year ago 2
This man doesn't know HOW to tell the truth--pathetic!!!
homeschoolmarm 1 year ago 5
I think it is smart to learn from your opponents and incorporate the best ideas instead of being 'I'm always right'. Getting any kind of major change passed into legislation is difficult and requires compromise and President Obama has shown he is pragmatic but determined and that's why we've got the first major health care reform since Medicare passed.
ozarkcanoer 1 year ago
Anything this president says is nothing but lies. How many "promises, pledges and statements" have expired since he raised his hand and took the oath of office. One big one "I will sign no bill until the public has five days to read it"! He took what 36 hours!
fbcmusicman 1 year ago 4
Obama is a liar and only says stuff to fool people to serve his purpose of the day.
lees20022 1 year ago 3
Hypocrite scum
grapeview61 1 year ago
That was then, this is now.
Obama lies, lies, lies, and the mainstream media makes all his past lies disappear.
caraclaudel 1 year ago 2
Well, at least Obama televised all the health care debates on C-Span like he promised. No?
OK, then at least Obama posted the health care bill on the Internet for five days before signing it like he promised. No?
Mmm, well at least our first "post-partisan" president garnered wide-spread bi-partisan support for such a sweeping overhaul of health care legislation, and not the "50+1" tactic that he derided. No?
Well . . . why do you hate poor people?
TheJoaquinFenix 1 year ago
wow... we are so doomed
I've never voted before, but this year I will vote against everyone to voted for that bill.
JPloyhar 1 year ago 4
Obama Bin Liein:
Instead of sending someone to an emergency room for treatment for asthma, just give them a breathalyzer, or an inhalator or wait a minuet, OK, see the Attachment.
ObamaCarelessClueless.
thejimfit 1 year ago 2
This message was paid for by you, from the most expensive mental institution in the world, know as the United States Federal Government.
thejimfit 1 year ago 2
Obama Bin Liein:
Instead of sending someone to an emergency room for treatment for asthma, just give them a breathalyzer, or an inhalator or wait a minuet, OK
ObamaCarelessClueless
This message was paid for by you, from the most expensive mental institution in the world, know as the United States Federal Government.
thejimfit 1 year ago
Hypocrisy, they name is POTUS.
doctorcane 1 year ago 2
has obama ever told the truth ? the guy is pathetic
myjosiewales 1 year ago 10
I'm glad he finally came around to right position on this issue.
chrisrudy502 1 year ago
I told someone about this last summer. The very mandates that Barack flamed Hillary for in 2008 are now law. They didn't believe me. I'm still wondering why people that were so desperate for health care are going to have to waith 4 years for the coverage in this bill to actually begin. That's going to make some excellent sob stories. I can see it now "Person X dies from X disease while waiting 4 years for Obamacare to kick in."
jovidman69 1 year ago 8
It's amazing how hard it is to convince people that Obama flipped on this. People who explained this TO ME when I supported Hillary now deny he ever said it.. Obviously, Obama's drop in popularity shows some people realize they were fooled. But he's framed as a messiah or a 'historical president' and some people can't accept any criticism of Obama is valid.
These people will probably riot when he is ousted in November 2012. Already a lot of people are pretending we're in civil war.
DTownzz 1 year ago 2
@jovidman69 yet Republicans wanted an individual mandate from tie time Nixon was president
Garhunt05 1 year ago
what an arrogant hypocritcal jerk - can we impeach him?!
ohiobuzzie 1 year ago 9
I want to say 'yes we can', but the fact is that being a liar and convincing idiots to elect you is not a felony. Sadly, there was ample evidence this guy was not being open about his views, and he was elected anyway. We're getting the government we deserve, sadly.
DTownzz 1 year ago 2
@ohiobuzzie You probably have described just about every person ever
Garhunt05 1 year ago
hilary actually would've been better but neither one of them would've been ideal.
captainkill1 1 year ago 7
Hillary would have been much better. On foreign policy alone, I wonder how much better we'd be... things have been amazingly bad in that arena.
DTownzz 1 year ago
I think this is Tiger Woods , not BO
1rewd1 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The only three people who have commented on this video so far have said pretty much the exact same joke. STFU.
modustheoperandi 2 years ago
modustheoperandi its not a joke. the obama of then is tearing apart what the obama of now just past. so its ironic, there are jokes to be made (or crying), you STFU.
gatsu6969 1 year ago 3
Wow, can we elect this man President, cause the President we have now is all for mandates... wait, what?
WellIAMScottish 2 years ago 22
Wouldn't it have been great if THIS guy had been elected?
codyki 2 years ago 36
Who the heck is he? Why, he looks so much like the President!
MinistryOfDreamsBob 2 years ago 8