If someone goes to heaven and starts asking Yahweh question about why he is so evil,vindictive and petty in the Bible will he get angry and say, "AHHH YOU DARE QUESTION ME ...GO TO HELL.'
If the two atheists in this video knew about the OT like they claim they would know the ENTIRE old testament speaks of Jesus. The Psalms alone reference the crucifixion.The reason the jews don't agree with the caller is because they didn't believe Jesus was the coming Messiah prophesied throughout the entire NT. I thought this dude Matt had been studying to be a so.baptist fundamentalist preacher? Go do some basic bible studies Matt- or debate some real pastors like Chuck Smith or Damian Kyle.
@psalmsurfer1 Modern Jews and Jews in NT days but prophesied throughout the OT rather. From Genesis 3:!5 from the outset speaks of Jesus and God Himself makes the first messianic prophesy when He said to Satan: " I will put enmity between thee and the woman,between thy seed and her seed; He (Jesus) shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his (Jesus) heel."
Use your God given intuition: who shows a higher consciousness level? who kills or who respects life?, who steal or who share? who enslave or who frees? who envy or who love? who is selfish or who is selfless? who is materialistic or who is spiritual?. We are due to move to the next consciousness level by rejecting all materialism and selfishness. Those were Jesus teachings, which atheism reject. God will act, and anyone that refuse to move may be expendable. Open your eyes before is too late.
@jeremythehuman Adults have sexually hung-up cosmic wizards from beyond space and time in whom no one has ever presented the first good reason to believe?
Of course, many adults do in fact have just that. And when you combine the bad mental habits that allow them to be theists with the other stupid beliefs attendant on most brands of conventional theism, you get the shitty world we live in.
that's actually a good question... how do you know God isn't bad? lol. i personally always thought lucifer was kind of awesome for standing up to god like that. Then God had to go and be an ass... it makes me think the Devil is an OK guy ha. we could share a beer.
@selphiexfairy According to the fairy tale, Lucifer is kind of like Apollo or Quetzlcoatl (and many others), being the teacher of humanity, the bring of enlightenment. YAHWEH is nothing more than a patriarchal, tribal moon god that the early Hebrew latched onto for some reason during some enslavement by the Babylonians. Historically speaking, moon deities have been EVIL, which explains the F-ed up rules and immorality I guess. And remember that Satan can only do YAHWEH's bidding. He's a pawn.
@darkoon2 The point of the show is to promote positive atheism and the separation of church and state. In this context "positive" means letting people know it's okay to be an atheist and to convince people that we're not the evil people the fundamentalists try to paint us as.
As for the show, it's been almost 3 years since this video was posted. It had been going on for about 10 years at that point and it is still going strong today.
@FireDragons42 "and it is still going strong today." Extremely strong. They've just purchased their own building/studio, which will also feature a library, according to Matt. At some point soon, their show will be hosted from their new building. (The ACA is nonprofit.) I anticipate the show will be expanded, at least on the net, as the only reason the show was reduced to an hour was due to scheduling on the public access station.
@gspendlove Russell just poo-pooed the idea of expanding the show to 2 hours during the live chat a few minutes ago (he said "we have to eat"). I tried to haggle him to 1 and 1/2 hours, but he left the chat before responding, lol. I'm sure they will come to some kind of decision as a group before announcing anything, but it would be a shame if they get a new building and don't expand the show to AT LEAST what it was previously--an hour and a half.
@greyeyed123 Back to an hour and a half....that'll be great. Maybe Russell's right: 2 hours is a little long. As much as I'd like to hear these guys speak for a couple of hours, we have to be mindful of their stamina and patience.
These vids are awesome! I too was skeptical of the need to really have this kind of a show but the nore I watch these the more I get convinced that we should have more shows like this.
However, Matt has truly put my atheism to the test because his arguments are truly godlike XD
So far I've seen them argue against dumb, mindless Christians. I want to actually see an intelligent theology conversation from both sides, get someone who knows as much religion as this Matt guy maybe so they can actually have a smooth and informal convo, not with these Christies rambling on about God's holiness and how he has the right to have all the right.
@Scytherene122190 Anyone is welcome to call. These are the types of callers they normally get but they have had a couple of professional apologists call into the show. You can find those episodes here:
Matt Slick presents TAG
Russel and Don: watch?v=P9c1vqWMBIc (starts about 1:04:45 into the video) but it not as good.
@Scytherene122190 There is no such thing as an intelligent theology conversation because a religious person is afraid of logic. Anyone can call. Ray Comfort called. They all end up sounding like morons because they are so IGNORANT!
@Scytherene122190 Not all his detractors are dumb callers. Matt has been in some debates with well trained theists. . You need to look them up. And he makes a very good case in the debates.
@Scytherene122190 Amen to that bro...my deceased turtle could do better than some of these Christians calling in..makes me wonder if they are actually atheist actors pretending to be Christians to make these two buffoons sound good. For the record the chick sidekick is his whipping girl. She's seems so uncomfortable in her non-belief like she'd shatter to pieces at any moment. These two are not fooling or scaring any believers.
Redemption wasn't an 'arbitrary thing' genius woman. Theology 101. The issue is that of sin. There had to be a sinless blood sacrifice to God for sin according to Levitical Law. Clean animals slaughtered in the OT under old covenant were considered atonement for sin bc they had inability to sin by nature. God's dilemma was He needed a human SINLESS blood sacrifice for atonement for men. Since men are born in sin since the fall of man-only a sinless man could atone for all human sin. Enter Jesus.
@psalmsurfer1 Hence, the ultimate human sacrifice. People, don't come on these video sites thinking you know everything about the bible. When you don't know biblical interpretation and just make jackass statements like I read the bible and its a fairytale or it was written by men but can't back up biblical interpretation you don't help your cause for atheism. You better be prepared for prepared Christians who know biblical interpretation and study theology.
@psalmsurfer1 I'm still waiting ot hear from a Christian who has some evidence to back up his theological claims rather than just opinions. I read it in a book--or worse, somebody told me it was in a book but I didn't bother reading it for myself--isn't much of an argument.
@acr08807 lol what book do you propose other than the Bible (which God wrote and revealed to man) for Christians to debate from? I stand on my original statement.
@psalmsurfer1 I'm no more convinced by the Bible than I am by the Baghavad Gita, except that the Bhagavad Gita is much better written. Seriously, if God wrote it, he needs to take some creative writing classes.
@psalmsurfer1 Still very much nonsense to me. God created man/woman sinless, then they sinned and now are forever cursed with it for all of the eternity, it's present in every infant... so then he needs a sinless man to atone for all other humans sins, even though all men are created with it. So then he replicates himself unto Jesus (so in actuality, and theory, he is still not exactly HUMAN) to shed his blood & innocence for atonement of all humankind. What an odd story.
@Scytherene122190 Nonsense to you; life, death, revelation of truth and salvation to others. You're one person out of almost 7 billion in this world. Contrary to popular belief; you aren't that special. He was half human half deity so you are correct when you say not exactly human. Odd to those who haven't the holy spirit within them-not so to those that do possess the spirit.
@psalmsurfer1 Everything you just explained was nonsense yet again. There's birth, life, death. Truth can be found in life, not after death; for your conscience is no longer present to absorb truth anymore. I could believe more in roaming spirits that dwells within this universe, a lifestream, to incorporate unto another crude husk to begin another existence, more than a simple god, devil. jesus, heaven, hell theory. All of it is just so... transparently obscure, lol
And for you to say you possess the 'holy' spirit is just ridiculous. You possess your own, no more & no less. I could say I possess everyone's spirit, every single exsistential being's spirit in this universe's. That makes me more than holy, that would make me everything & beyond. But it's probably not true, I have nothing to show for it. And neither do you by saying you 'possess the holy spirit'.
@psalmsurfer1 No revelation of truth I haven't, you say.. well I beg to differ. I've seen & understand more truths than ever before. I may only be twenty years of age, but I finally understand my place, your place & everyone else's in this multiverse without a doubt. So, for one, I'll tell you this: when you die, you will absolutely will not go to a fairy-tale kingdom of heaven.. nor a hell. No such places. You're wasting your precious time in "believing" so.
@psalmsurfer1 Here's a good example of the simplicty & utter plagarism your religion has done:
vimeo.com(/13726978) remove the parenthesis.
... the 1st Part of the video will show you where the real idealism behind all religions come from... watch & weep, my friend. Everything in there is just the very start of the whole wide picture.
@psalmsurfer1 What DO you have to show for it? A false sense of righteousness? Praying for every single little stupid thing, or for someone else? What do you have to show for it besides your petty words, your pathetic attempts to persuade people you are a creation & son of some god, and "possess the holy spirit"? LOL.
@Scytherene122190 Interesting and ironic to see how you go into a lunatic maniacal rampage of ridicule just because I said I have peace in my life because of the Lord. You don't anything about me bro- so I suggest you reserve your hate comments for someone else.
@psalmsurfer1 That wasn't anything near a rampage, lunatic or maniacal neither. There wasn't any hate put into those words I typed; only questions. One's that you have failed to answer; maybe because your Lord put too much peace into your life your at a loss for them.
Thank you Matt...I'm so tired of hearing that stupid Jesus word shoved down my throat daily one can see that religion is the cause of the argument here therefore thats proof that religion is nothing but a cult!
these cells then get placed back into the patient... there is no killing of babies here... the stem cells get taken from the patient themselves... and placed back into the patient... they are hoping that within five years all this will be settled and that enough research and testing has been done...
just have to say that i am getting my masters in stem cell research... and you have stem cells in your skin, bone marrow, for your sex cells, any type of cell that gets repopulated... and there are currently plenty of research using stem cells... i actually went to a lecture where they are using bone marrow stem cells to treat bubble baby disease and sickle cell anemia by placing the current genes into a retro virus and allowing the virus to inject the correct gene into the stem cell culture.
I gotta tell you Matt ..when I first started watching your you tube vids I was skeptical of the value ...the more I've seen the more I like ...and dont ever stop ...enjoyable to the max ...
Atheists are so arrogant and so lost. They say they don't believe in God yet they complain about Him all the time. lol. If they're so certain He doesn't exist they wouldn't complain about Him all the time...lol
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. In other words, you refuse Christ in your life, Christ will deny you on judgement day before God.
I still can't believe that Xians will have the gall to defend this OT Psychopath, they called god (Yahweh). I think most Xians only know cherry picked parts of the NT, and none of the OT. Anyone with at least an average IQ who studied the OT would have to realize that the character they called god, was an evil (by his own words in scripture), and sadistically cruel in his treatment of man. He was a mass murderer, who loved killing children!
Religion Notoriously say that they invented Morality, they didn't. Morality exists in Nature, and not just in humans either, Look at animal behavior, Look at how they protect there family and kids, etc. To say you invented Morality is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, Almost as ridiculous as the bullshit this idiots spewing. Whatever, let the guy go and pray and metaphorically eat the lords body and drink his blood, Maybe he'll gain some intelligence at some point in his life.
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 we theists didnt invent instinct, but cahnces are, you live in a culture dominated by religious beliefs Those animals protect their family because they are the next generation, but if they get chased by a cougar bye bye baby im leaving you because i can reproduce. Only humans stick up and fight for each other no other animal does that why??Why do we have laws in our society and other animals dont? Why do we have an instinct to love one another?
@MrBronbron Oh well how fucking convenient I actually have a video on my computer titled "In case anyone asks for proof of Deers in nature". How about this, read a book. Humans and animals are different big deal. The only point I'm making is, is that religion did not invent morality, that's it. And when you get in a fight or a war or whatever, Humans don't think WHY we exist, we think why the other guy is a fucking asshole. We think nothing of our roots
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 our roots being that we are by far the smartest animal that has ever lived on this planet, we are the only one that has any sense of morality, and we are born with it. :0 i found it interesting how u got angry tho and swore block
@MrBronbron Animals don't stick up for one another? Surely you've seen a herd of buffalo protect the young from lions. Also, consider the pros and cons for the animal. If a sheep tries to take on a cougar, then the mother and the child will both die from the impossible-to-win fight. We humans stick up for one another no matter what because we are in positions to do it at all times. We have guns, sheer numbers, brainpower, medicine, and tools. Animals only have instinct and strength.
@MunkyDrag0n well thank you for agreeing with me monkey dragon. The sheep will run from the baby if its attacked by wolves. animals run away from prey if its to dangerous. why do humans always stick togather and are smarter by far, than any other animal that has ever existed.We think why we exist. ( refute: monkeys use and make tools )
@MrBronbron Animals can also use tools and form complex societies. Surely that presents the case that evolution can account for human intelligence and not god. Apes are much like humans, only...modified. They aren't as smart but are far stronger. Also, humans did not learn to use complex tools overnight. They had to experiment and develop for thousands of years. Doesn't that prove that their skills are their own and not from an outside influence?
@MunkyDrag0n umm no it doesnt... god took a few thousand years to send us a savior(jesus) so does that prove that god is lazy? no, it says god goes by his own plan not ours. As for apes forming complex societies show me one like the one we live in or show me an ape make an axe and ill believe that humans arent the only animals that can create things like farms and buildings and tools.Show me a video from youtube.
@MrBronbron That is a what-if. Time suggests change without god is just as possible as change with god. What proof (besides ideological) is there that god made change slow? You put unfair standards on apes. They can never be that smart in their current states. We evolved toward intelligence, not them. Strength was more favorable to them in the jungle. It just doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to find tings in common, especially when we share 99% of our DNA with them. Videos by tehinfidel
@talover30 Im an atheist, Im just sayin Dude doesnt know his bible or the "facts" about it. He thinks the dead sea scrolls are the originials (if I remember right, its been 2 weeks since I watched this). But you are correct, I agree.
I feel sorry for Christians. I don't understand how an intelligent person can believe there is an invisible, magical sky-daddy who is listening/mind-reading and granting wishes when people close their eyes and talk to themselves.
@lesliekwan80 Unfortunately the thing is easier for smart people to continue believing these things. If you get a belief instilled in you during childhood (when we're wired to accept as read whatever our parents tell us) then a smart person will be better able to come up with reasons to justify their belief later in life.
@FireDragons42 So, are you calling Matt dumb? Why wasn't Matt brainwashed? You argument is baseless. Every atheist I have ever met grew up in a Christian home. You atheists have such a superiority complex. You think you're the only ones who "know" the truth; everyone else are idiots.
@YesYou123333 I'm not calling Matt dumb, you're implying a false dichotomy there. And Matt was "brainwashed" as you put it. He was a Christian until he began studying to go to seminary. It was the command to be able to provide proof of your beliefs that caused him to look for the evidence and eventually led to him being an atheist.
As for "every atheist growing up in a Christian home", I am an example of an atheist that never was raised in any religion.
@FireDragons42 You still didn't answer my question. Why was Matt not brainwashed? You told me he "looked for the evidence". Why haven't others done the same thing? Is Matt special? Matt is typical of the atheists I have met in my life. Grew up in a Christian home..etc. I have met many atheists who went to Catholic School their whole life and have become atheists. Strange thing, this brainwashing. It works on some but not others.
And let me tell you why brainwashing works on some and not on others.
1st, I was one who grew up Catholic, but became Born Again after Vietnam, in a Vet. Hospital. I recently became an atheist after several years of intense bible study. Now, here's the difference. The one big factor in my life was in being honest with myself. It was the biggest obstacle I ever faced, bcuz it's the hardest thing to do after yrs of denial. When 1 gets honest after facing the facts, he'll leave.
So Matt had to reach that point in life, just as I did (except he did it B4 me). When u reach that point & admit that prayer doesn't work, and it certainly doesn't conform to scripture, then start asking yourself the hard questions of all the other problems in scripture, and there are many, you'll wake up..."if" you are a man of honor and integrity, bcuz the hardest thing of all is facing the music. It isn't easy to confront the things we were told to "just believe" cuz it's god!.
@YesYou123333 If you really feel this way prove these supposedly arrogant Atheists wrong and provide evidence for your god. Until you do, why on earth would we be unjustified in thinking you silly for claiming something is true without producing ANY evidence to support it?
If I claimed spiderman was real and pointed to the spiderman comic saying he was real and you called me foolish for believing that after I refused to provide any evidence then according to you that would make you arrogant.
"You atheists have such a superiority complex. You think you're the only ones who "know" the truth; everyone else are idiots."
Oh, now I see where you're coming from. I should have known. When I saw that comment, "are u calling Matt dumb," I immediately knew it was an insulting, divisive remark, & I doubt u have any real interest in learning anything about us.
So I offer you a challenge. Come to my channel & debate the biblical issues, which I contend will prove your god is evil.
@Cootabux It's impossible for you to prove God is evil because, as an atheist, you can define "evil" any way you want to. How do we know a thousand years from now you won't consider the God of the OT a real sweetheart? Maybe by then the definition for evil will change.
@YesYou123333 - It's just as impossible for you to prove God is good because, as a Christian, you can define "good" any way you want to such that God always appears good. It all always comes down to what humans define as good or evil.
@YesYou123333 - No, EVEN if God does exist, that doesn't automatically establish that God is always necessarily "good." Whether God exists is an entirely different question. I'm not even asking you to establish that God exists (because you can't), but for the sake of argument, assuming that God exists, then you need to prove that God is always good. Hint: merely because God says he's good doesn't make it so.
@YesYou123333 - So when god kills people, that's good? When god lies and deceives people, that's good? When god kills women and children and orders his people to rip babies from the wombs of their mothers, that's all good?
@YesYou123333 - Well that's perfect. You've just demonstrated that you have no sense of morality of your own and you believe you are completely dependent on a tyrant authority figure to tell you what's right and wrong. You don't believe that murder is wrong, you don't believe that rape is wrong - you merely believe "whatever god says is wrong is wrong". You've just claimed to follow complete moral relativism.
@mnkittel There is nothing wrong with being completely dependent of a perfect God. I don't condone murder but I also don't have the infinite wisdom of God.
@YesYou123333 - Yes there is. It makes you a slave and it gives you the mentality of the slave. You no longer feel responsible for anything you do in your life and given all that responsibility over to an imaginary being, so that you never have to feel bad for anything you do in this life. You no longer have to care how your actions affect people because you can just tell yourself "jesus forgives me even if no one else does" and be content with that. How pathetic and inhuman.
@mnkittel You don't have a clue what it is to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. First of all, when Christ takes over your life, you no longer WANT to do anything that goes against His will. So, in effect, you become like Him. Notice how I wrote "like Him" because we can never become as perfect as He is but this is the Lords goal; to make us like His Son.
You don't have any constructive arguments, so you resort to mockery and ridicule, as all infantile cyber bullying atheists do. You have no idea what its like to be a child of God, so take your cyber bullying somewhere else.
@YesYou123333 How is being intellectually honest and not lying about what you "know" to be true a superiority complex?
The fact is that most Theists tend to claim they "know" what is real and apply false logic that not only contradicts itself but uses special pleading and blatantly ignore all evidence to the contrary.
As an Atheist we look at the evidence and see none for God and so come to the conclusion that there is no more evidence for one than Santa.
@DarkBunnyLord Why do I need to show you evidence? It puzzles me when atheists like Matt Dillahunty and Christopher Hitchens demand evidence and then admit even if the God of the Bible were true they wouldn't worship Him. Do you think that's why God does not present them with "evidence"?
@YesYou123333 Because you're insisting your god is real. Whether or not we'd worship him is irrelevant to this fact, if he was real and you had evidence we'd at least acknowledge that he was, this wouldn't however forgive all of the horrible atrocities he committed in the bible.
The point is if I'm telling you there is a magical invisible and intangible dragon in my garage it is on me to provide the evidence as I am making the positive claim, not you to disprove it.
@DarkBunnyLord My position is it takes the intervening of The Holy Spirit to make one believe. So, I ask you again. For what reason would the Lord intervene to make you believe?
@YesYou123333 Why wouldn't he? If he wants people to believe in him and praise him then why not provide sufficent evidence?
It claims he wants everyone to return to him and belief in him his necessary for this then why on earth would he hide himself behind a book that contradicts itself?
@YesYou123333 I don't know, why would he make me with skepticism? Why would he create people just to be damned? Why would he kill billions, support slavery, support rape, support murder, and expect to be worshipped?
@YesYou123333 Yay you can't answer the simplest of contradictions to your own faith so again you dodge the question. Doing wonderful proving your own faith wrong there pal.
Again I ask, your faith claims God made everyone, it also claims he is omnipotent (power to do anything) and omnscient (knows everything), so if he knew making me in a specific way, in a specific place, at a specific time would lead me to lacking belief in him then it's his own fault.
@DarkBunnyLord He didn't make you that way. You want to be that way. You already admitted you don't want to worship Him even if He stood in front of you. So quit hiding behind this "non-belief" BS. You hate God. Pure and simple. God gave you a choice and you made it. Quit blaming God for it. Atheists never want to take responsibility for their own decisions. This is the reason they don't want there to be a God. Because they don't want the responsibility.
@DarkBunnyLord No He didn't make you this way. You have chosen not to worship Him. It's your choice but don't be so shocked when He doesn't prove Himself to you. He has NO reason to present Himself to you. God doesn't want to be around those who don't want to be around Him. You trying to paint Him evil fails because He is perfect in everything He does. If I were to break the legs of someone running towards a broken bridge, you would call me evil if you didn't know the bridge was out.
@YesYou123333 I realize you're to stupid to understand simple cause and effect but let me lay it out slowly for you.
A persons decisions are shaped by the chemical balances in their brain and their experiences in life. If God had the power to set everything up however he wanted and then place people in a time and place while choosing how to form their brains with full knowledge before he even created them of what would happen do to his choices then yes, it would be his fault. Thinking, try it.
So you think it's ok to kill babies? You think slavery is ok? You think murdering people just because they don't believe in god is just and kind? Really?
@DarkBunnyLord You can't compare my morals with an all knowing God. I don't possess the knowledge of God. He knows everything so I don't question His decisions. If you saw me breaking the legs of a person running towards a cliff you would think I was evil if you didn't know about the cliff. Knowledge can effect what one does. If I didn't know about the cliff I would never break his legs but because I do I saved his life. Does that make me evil?
@YesYou123333 And there you have it folks, the admitance of ignorance. Bravo, if you don't know everything then how do you know he does? If you can't judge his actions evil then how the fuck can you honestly call them good either?
If I saw you breaking someones legs running towards a cliff it wouldn't matter, I certainly wouldn't call your actions good. On top of this if a being has INFINITE POWER to do ANYTHING and their choice is "kill everything" then they're evil.
@YesYou123333 (cont) Then you go on to claim that Atheists don't want to take responsibility for our actions?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Unlike you dipshit christians we don't think that we can just pray for forgiveness and be hunky dorey. We ARE responsible for our actions because what we do we have to deal with. The consequences can't be prayed away for Atheists you ignorant buffoon.
@YesYou123333 And you have no concept of what an Atheist is. We know we have to be responsible for our actions, we know the only person that can forgive us is the person we slighted, and when we do good things we don't do them for some great reward after we die.
@YesYou123333 Then they shouldn't be making comment about it. You pointed out several Atheists that had done bad things as if it was even remotely relevant. Thier Atheism no more guided their actions than them having mustaches or liking a particular type of food.
Until you can prove that there lack of belief in a God was the motivation for said actions and not the plethora of political and power related motivations you're just puffing smoke.
@DarkBunnyLord Let me see, we have 4 evil dictators and they kill as many people as they can. Hmmmmmm,,,they're all atheist, we know that, and atheists think humans are no more important than a cock roach....nahhhh, you're right their atheism had nothing to do with it..I think. No, no connection there...
Again you make some huge leap of logic to support your pathetically infantile argument.
Just because as Atheists we don't believe humans are divine beings above all other things doesn't mean we're suicidal moron. Quite the opposite if you'd bother to study evolution or social evolution what so ever, of course that would involve reading and seeing how many things you seem to miss even here in small paragraphs on youtube we know that much is beyond you.
@YesYou123333 Oh goody more ignorance of evolution, you really never have picked up a book on it have you?
Figures.
No, we got our morals off simple evolution of pack instinct. It's the same reason ants or wolves don't kill each other, because, get this, THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE. Gasp what a shock, evolution the thoery of creatures that are better apt at surviving continuing while those that don't die off and the predisposition to not harm each other happening being the breed that lives, shocking!
@DarkBunnyLord Oh, so you don't kill each other because you want to survive? Wouldn't it be easier to survive if you DID kill each other? There would be more food and stuff. Last time I grew tomatoes in the garden I didn't need anyone. And, why don't us humans still have tails? I could use a tail. Imagine how much easier it would be to take in groceries? You wouldn't need anybody form the "pack" to help you.
@YesYou123333 As a pack animal our survival is often better as a group. I can't possibly research to cure all diseases, grow food, provide comforts that make survival more enjoyable, etc so no killing others WOULDN'T help us survive. You made an asinine claim and you know it.
Holy crap did you read ANYTHING about evolution? We don't have tails because evolution isn't always a perfect step forwards it's random characteristics generated over long periods of time, those that help survival stick.
@YesYou123333 Again you cite a gross misunderstanding of evolution. It doesn't happen over night, it doesn't happen in one lifetime, noticeable changes take thousands of years for most creatures. Macro evolution tends to be the exception, given their changes require much less do to their more simplistic composition and rate of life.
@DarkBunnyLord So, it takes thousands of years. What a coincidence. I can prove anything if it takes thousands of years. I can prove unicorns exist. All I need to say is it "takes thousands of years to prove it". And, what a coincidence, we only live for 70-80 years so you can't show me but IT'S A FACT!!!!. Your thousands of years claim is nothing but smoke and mirrors that devolves you of the responsibility of proving it.
If someone goes to heaven and starts asking Yahweh question about why he is so evil,vindictive and petty in the Bible will he get angry and say, "AHHH YOU DARE QUESTION ME ...GO TO HELL.'
MrEmeraldfusion 2 months ago
how embarrassing to see ppl still buying this religious caveman nonsense , its a miracle really ...
antonkhuu 2 months ago
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"Was that immoral of God, to kill his own son?"
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theworldwins 3 months ago
If the two atheists in this video knew about the OT like they claim they would know the ENTIRE old testament speaks of Jesus. The Psalms alone reference the crucifixion.The reason the jews don't agree with the caller is because they didn't believe Jesus was the coming Messiah prophesied throughout the entire NT. I thought this dude Matt had been studying to be a so.baptist fundamentalist preacher? Go do some basic bible studies Matt- or debate some real pastors like Chuck Smith or Damian Kyle.
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 Modern Jews and Jews in NT days but prophesied throughout the OT rather. From Genesis 3:!5 from the outset speaks of Jesus and God Himself makes the first messianic prophesy when He said to Satan: " I will put enmity between thee and the woman,between thy seed and her seed; He (Jesus) shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his (Jesus) heel."
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
Can you hear the caller covering up for the barbaric nonsense contained in the bible? How pathetic can anybody be?!
cuevarap 3 months ago
If you have a business and 1/3 of the employees quit what would you say about the company's management?
If 1/3 of the angels in heaven rebel against yahweh what does that say about heaven and yahweh?
MrEmeraldfusion 3 months ago
Raptor Jesus went extinct for your sins! Repent, Anthropite heretics!
Miseritor 3 months ago
ELVIS DIED FOR MY SINS
IDieForMySins 4 months ago
GOD NOT REAL AND SATAN NOT REAL
IDieForMySins 4 months ago
What a friend we have in satan! Yes, satan loves me the satanic bible tells me so!
somethingdiffereable 4 months ago
Some days yahweh needs blood and other days he just needs to kill somebody when he killed jesus(himself) it was one of those days for both.
MrEmeraldfusion 4 months ago
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Use your God given intuition: who shows a higher consciousness level? who kills or who respects life?, who steal or who share? who enslave or who frees? who envy or who love? who is selfish or who is selfless? who is materialistic or who is spiritual?. We are due to move to the next consciousness level by rejecting all materialism and selfishness. Those were Jesus teachings, which atheism reject. God will act, and anyone that refuse to move may be expendable. Open your eyes before is too late.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
Children have imaginary friends. Adults have God.
jeremythehuman 5 months ago
@jeremythehuman Adults have sexually hung-up cosmic wizards from beyond space and time in whom no one has ever presented the first good reason to believe?
Of course, many adults do in fact have just that. And when you combine the bad mental habits that allow them to be theists with the other stupid beliefs attendant on most brands of conventional theism, you get the shitty world we live in.
DuhIdiot1 4 months ago
Tracie was on fire in this exchange. Her arguments were powerful -- in this case, even better than Matt's.
sweetsweatyfeet 5 months ago
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What is the point of this show????????
TheMonikkee 6 months ago
Wonderful short Movie
adultdating100 6 months ago
that's actually a good question... how do you know God isn't bad? lol. i personally always thought lucifer was kind of awesome for standing up to god like that. Then God had to go and be an ass... it makes me think the Devil is an OK guy ha. we could share a beer.
selphiexfairy 6 months ago
@selphiexfairy According to the fairy tale, Lucifer is kind of like Apollo or Quetzlcoatl (and many others), being the teacher of humanity, the bring of enlightenment. YAHWEH is nothing more than a patriarchal, tribal moon god that the early Hebrew latched onto for some reason during some enslavement by the Babylonians. Historically speaking, moon deities have been EVIL, which explains the F-ed up rules and immorality I guess. And remember that Satan can only do YAHWEH's bidding. He's a pawn.
gvman3670 6 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
whats the point of this show? i bet they shut down by now
darkoon2 7 months ago
@darkoon2 The point of the show is to promote positive atheism and the separation of church and state. In this context "positive" means letting people know it's okay to be an atheist and to convince people that we're not the evil people the fundamentalists try to paint us as.
As for the show, it's been almost 3 years since this video was posted. It had been going on for about 10 years at that point and it is still going strong today.
FireDragons42 7 months ago 24
@FireDragons42 "and it is still going strong today." Extremely strong. They've just purchased their own building/studio, which will also feature a library, according to Matt. At some point soon, their show will be hosted from their new building. (The ACA is nonprofit.) I anticipate the show will be expanded, at least on the net, as the only reason the show was reduced to an hour was due to scheduling on the public access station.
greyeyed123 6 months ago
@greyeyed123 Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!
gspendlove 6 months ago
@gspendlove Russell just poo-pooed the idea of expanding the show to 2 hours during the live chat a few minutes ago (he said "we have to eat"). I tried to haggle him to 1 and 1/2 hours, but he left the chat before responding, lol. I'm sure they will come to some kind of decision as a group before announcing anything, but it would be a shame if they get a new building and don't expand the show to AT LEAST what it was previously--an hour and a half.
greyeyed123 6 months ago
@greyeyed123 Back to an hour and a half....that'll be great. Maybe Russell's right: 2 hours is a little long. As much as I'd like to hear these guys speak for a couple of hours, we have to be mindful of their stamina and patience.
gspendlove 6 months ago
@darkoon2 It's on tommorrow dude :) they rock, and I are a christian so nyeh!
gleehmee 6 months ago
@darkoon2 LOL whats the point of your comment?? another empty brain the show has been on 11 years
berrywoke 6 months ago
@darkoon2 CLICK on 2222pauline
ALLOW me to show you ----TRUTH and SALVATION-----> for free
2222pauline 5 months ago
@darkoon2 It's still going on silly boy.
MsPhoneMonkey 4 months ago
@darkoon2 "They" are still up.
QuestionRenee 3 months ago
@darkoon2 3 months later...the show is gaining more & more viewers. FAIL
Zentz29 3 months ago
@darkoon2 too many negative votes because atheists got their butt hurt by that statement lol
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
oh wait johns the christian and matts the athiest...igot mied up....go matt
endlessconflict89 7 months ago
John, you're embarrassing yourself now.
pokerguy94 7 months ago
These vids are awesome! I too was skeptical of the need to really have this kind of a show but the nore I watch these the more I get convinced that we should have more shows like this.
However, Matt has truly put my atheism to the test because his arguments are truly godlike XD
Atheism FTW
TheRaivaaja 7 months ago
Your parents lied to you. Get over it. Try thinking for yourself.
scotttebben 8 months ago 3
So far I've seen them argue against dumb, mindless Christians. I want to actually see an intelligent theology conversation from both sides, get someone who knows as much religion as this Matt guy maybe so they can actually have a smooth and informal convo, not with these Christies rambling on about God's holiness and how he has the right to have all the right.
Scytherene122190 8 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Anyone is welcome to call. These are the types of callers they normally get but they have had a couple of professional apologists call into the show. You can find those episodes here:
Matt Slick presents TAG
Russel and Don: watch?v=P9c1vqWMBIc (starts about 1:04:45 into the video) but it not as good.
Matt Dillahunty: watch?v=v02HM_-Dz2g
Matt Dillahunty Epilogue: watch?v=ypLGCv5fyYk
Ray Comfort - watch?v=zyzF8SMQOxU
They don't do much better.
FireDragons42 8 months ago 15
@Scytherene122190 its because intelligent thiest become athiest
kris6682 6 months ago
@Scytherene122190 There is no such thing as an intelligent theology conversation because a religious person is afraid of logic. Anyone can call. Ray Comfort called. They all end up sounding like morons because they are so IGNORANT!
gargantacortador 3 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Not all his detractors are dumb callers. Matt has been in some debates with well trained theists. . You need to look them up. And he makes a very good case in the debates.
azzy314159 3 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Amen to that bro...my deceased turtle could do better than some of these Christians calling in..makes me wonder if they are actually atheist actors pretending to be Christians to make these two buffoons sound good. For the record the chick sidekick is his whipping girl. She's seems so uncomfortable in her non-belief like she'd shatter to pieces at any moment. These two are not fooling or scaring any believers.
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
Redemption wasn't an 'arbitrary thing' genius woman. Theology 101. The issue is that of sin. There had to be a sinless blood sacrifice to God for sin according to Levitical Law. Clean animals slaughtered in the OT under old covenant were considered atonement for sin bc they had inability to sin by nature. God's dilemma was He needed a human SINLESS blood sacrifice for atonement for men. Since men are born in sin since the fall of man-only a sinless man could atone for all human sin. Enter Jesus.
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 Hence, the ultimate human sacrifice. People, don't come on these video sites thinking you know everything about the bible. When you don't know biblical interpretation and just make jackass statements like I read the bible and its a fairytale or it was written by men but can't back up biblical interpretation you don't help your cause for atheism. You better be prepared for prepared Christians who know biblical interpretation and study theology.
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 I'm still waiting ot hear from a Christian who has some evidence to back up his theological claims rather than just opinions. I read it in a book--or worse, somebody told me it was in a book but I didn't bother reading it for myself--isn't much of an argument.
acr08807 2 months ago
@acr08807 lol what book do you propose other than the Bible (which God wrote and revealed to man) for Christians to debate from? I stand on my original statement.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 I'm no more convinced by the Bible than I am by the Baghavad Gita, except that the Bhagavad Gita is much better written. Seriously, if God wrote it, he needs to take some creative writing classes.
acr08807 2 months ago
@acr08807 Too bad for you.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
Law of the universe #1: There is a God. Law of the universe #2. You're not Him.
psalmsurfer1 3 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 Still very much nonsense to me. God created man/woman sinless, then they sinned and now are forever cursed with it for all of the eternity, it's present in every infant... so then he needs a sinless man to atone for all other humans sins, even though all men are created with it. So then he replicates himself unto Jesus (so in actuality, and theory, he is still not exactly HUMAN) to shed his blood & innocence for atonement of all humankind. What an odd story.
Scytherene122190 3 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Nonsense to you; life, death, revelation of truth and salvation to others. You're one person out of almost 7 billion in this world. Contrary to popular belief; you aren't that special. He was half human half deity so you are correct when you say not exactly human. Odd to those who haven't the holy spirit within them-not so to those that do possess the spirit.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 Everything you just explained was nonsense yet again. There's birth, life, death. Truth can be found in life, not after death; for your conscience is no longer present to absorb truth anymore. I could believe more in roaming spirits that dwells within this universe, a lifestream, to incorporate unto another crude husk to begin another existence, more than a simple god, devil. jesus, heaven, hell theory. All of it is just so... transparently obscure, lol
Scytherene122190 2 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Again, when you have no revelation of truth, it will be obscure
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
And for you to say you possess the 'holy' spirit is just ridiculous. You possess your own, no more & no less. I could say I possess everyone's spirit, every single exsistential being's spirit in this universe's. That makes me more than holy, that would make me everything & beyond. But it's probably not true, I have nothing to show for it. And neither do you by saying you 'possess the holy spirit'.
Scytherene122190 2 months ago 2
@Scytherene122190 I have everything to show for it.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 No revelation of truth I haven't, you say.. well I beg to differ. I've seen & understand more truths than ever before. I may only be twenty years of age, but I finally understand my place, your place & everyone else's in this multiverse without a doubt. So, for one, I'll tell you this: when you die, you will absolutely will not go to a fairy-tale kingdom of heaven.. nor a hell. No such places. You're wasting your precious time in "believing" so.
Scytherene122190 2 months ago
@Scytherene122190 You have your truth; I have mine.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 Here's a good example of the simplicty & utter plagarism your religion has done:
vimeo.com(/13726978) remove the parenthesis.
... the 1st Part of the video will show you where the real idealism behind all religions come from... watch & weep, my friend. Everything in there is just the very start of the whole wide picture.
Scytherene122190 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 What DO you have to show for it? A false sense of righteousness? Praying for every single little stupid thing, or for someone else? What do you have to show for it besides your petty words, your pathetic attempts to persuade people you are a creation & son of some god, and "possess the holy spirit"? LOL.
Scytherene122190 2 months ago
@Scytherene122190 Interesting and ironic to see how you go into a lunatic maniacal rampage of ridicule just because I said I have peace in my life because of the Lord. You don't anything about me bro- so I suggest you reserve your hate comments for someone else.
psalmsurfer1 2 months ago
@psalmsurfer1 That wasn't anything near a rampage, lunatic or maniacal neither. There wasn't any hate put into those words I typed; only questions. One's that you have failed to answer; maybe because your Lord put too much peace into your life your at a loss for them.
Scytherene122190 2 months ago
Hey Matty you are my hero :)
MrMaverickOne 9 months ago
6:11-7:30
Daaaammmn. She just owned on 17 different levels
playstationninja 9 months ago 3
someone else noticed that this video skips from 9:47 to 9:49
lol i remember that a guy said something like that last week and i was wondering
"how did this guy found this out" and now it just happened to me
aha that's a proof that gods exist
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naaaah...shit just happens, that's the real answer
GustavoDFdeS 9 months ago
Thank you Matt...I'm so tired of hearing that stupid Jesus word shoved down my throat daily one can see that religion is the cause of the argument here therefore thats proof that religion is nothing but a cult!
JoeyMars1 9 months ago 7
You can hear the rusty cogs in the callers brain grinding when Matt asks a question.
lewisner 9 months ago 6
these cells then get placed back into the patient... there is no killing of babies here... the stem cells get taken from the patient themselves... and placed back into the patient... they are hoping that within five years all this will be settled and that enough research and testing has been done...
mom12345mom 10 months ago 5
just have to say that i am getting my masters in stem cell research... and you have stem cells in your skin, bone marrow, for your sex cells, any type of cell that gets repopulated... and there are currently plenty of research using stem cells... i actually went to a lecture where they are using bone marrow stem cells to treat bubble baby disease and sickle cell anemia by placing the current genes into a retro virus and allowing the virus to inject the correct gene into the stem cell culture.
mom12345mom 10 months ago 4
I gotta tell you Matt ..when I first started watching your you tube vids I was skeptical of the value ...the more I've seen the more I like ...and dont ever stop ...enjoyable to the max ...
laserwolf130 10 months ago 37
I am always amazed how little these "Christians" know about the bible and theology in general.
chairde 10 months ago 3
God is fiction.
Karoke77 11 months ago 35
To quote Concrete Blonde: "...god is a bullet. have mercy on us, every one..." Your god is a monster at best.
DirtyEdgar42 11 months ago
Atheists are so arrogant and so lost. They say they don't believe in God yet they complain about Him all the time. lol. If they're so certain He doesn't exist they wouldn't complain about Him all the time...lol
ChristJesusReigns 11 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns We complain about you Christian morons.
Karoke77 11 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns We complain about the fictional genocidal monster that leads you to hate and kill others for your mythical master.
We complain that grown adults are so f****** stupid as to believe in nonsense.
We complain that you LOVE a fictional killer and torturer O_O
That makes you dangerous.
Karoke77 11 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns Another day has passed, and you still worship a fictional beast who demanded animal slaughter and blood sacrifice O_O
Shame on YOU!!
Karoke77 11 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns Did God create itself? Is it an Athiest? @_@
Karoke77 11 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns Are you talking to yourself (praying) on Sunday? o_O LOL
Karoke77 1 month ago
"John, can you answer any question straight?" Of course he can't. He's a Christian.
Kailoa36 11 months ago
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. In other words, you refuse Christ in your life, Christ will deny you on judgement day before God.
smurfboywv 11 months ago
These people are, of course, right.
Insane God's are insane none the less.
If we meet them we should spit in their eye.
They are EVIL. Be a man , or a woman, and stand up for what is right.
No question. Call them on their crazy shit. Kudos for the post.
faunflynn 1 year ago 8
faunflynn
Damn right! I like the way you think, Bro!
I still can't believe that Xians will have the gall to defend this OT Psychopath, they called god (Yahweh). I think most Xians only know cherry picked parts of the NT, and none of the OT. Anyone with at least an average IQ who studied the OT would have to realize that the character they called god, was an evil (by his own words in scripture), and sadistically cruel in his treatment of man. He was a mass murderer, who loved killing children!
Cootabux 1 year ago
Matt should get paid for this. "Debating" people like John would be the best job ever.
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 1 year ago
1:43 is so funny lol
Nelsanity 1 year ago
I love your logic Tracy
time2learnnow 1 year ago
there is free will to
neoconmyass 1 year ago
Religion Notoriously say that they invented Morality, they didn't. Morality exists in Nature, and not just in humans either, Look at animal behavior, Look at how they protect there family and kids, etc. To say you invented Morality is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, Almost as ridiculous as the bullshit this idiots spewing. Whatever, let the guy go and pray and metaphorically eat the lords body and drink his blood, Maybe he'll gain some intelligence at some point in his life.
BARNEYRAPEDME69 1 year ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 we theists didnt invent instinct, but cahnces are, you live in a culture dominated by religious beliefs Those animals protect their family because they are the next generation, but if they get chased by a cougar bye bye baby im leaving you because i can reproduce. Only humans stick up and fight for each other no other animal does that why??Why do we have laws in our society and other animals dont? Why do we have an instinct to love one another?
MrBronbron 1 year ago
@MrBronbron Actually a Deer will defend it's children till death but whatever lol
BARNEYRAPEDME69 1 year ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 show me a video of a deer defending her fawn against a pack of wolves in an open field(where she can run) and ill believe you
MrBronbron 1 year ago
@MrBronbron Oh well how fucking convenient I actually have a video on my computer titled "In case anyone asks for proof of Deers in nature". How about this, read a book. Humans and animals are different big deal. The only point I'm making is, is that religion did not invent morality, that's it. And when you get in a fight or a war or whatever, Humans don't think WHY we exist, we think why the other guy is a fucking asshole. We think nothing of our roots
BARNEYRAPEDME69 1 year ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 our roots being that we are by far the smartest animal that has ever lived on this planet, we are the only one that has any sense of morality, and we are born with it. :0 i found it interesting how u got angry tho and swore block
MrBronbron 1 year ago
@MrBronbron Oh ya I was so angry. I was angrily typing away at the key board with a furrowed brows while grinding my teeth. Thats how angry I was
BARNEYRAPEDME69 1 year ago
@MrBronbron Animals don't stick up for one another? Surely you've seen a herd of buffalo protect the young from lions. Also, consider the pros and cons for the animal. If a sheep tries to take on a cougar, then the mother and the child will both die from the impossible-to-win fight. We humans stick up for one another no matter what because we are in positions to do it at all times. We have guns, sheer numbers, brainpower, medicine, and tools. Animals only have instinct and strength.
MunkyDrag0n 1 year ago
@MunkyDrag0n well thank you for agreeing with me monkey dragon. The sheep will run from the baby if its attacked by wolves. animals run away from prey if its to dangerous. why do humans always stick togather and are smarter by far, than any other animal that has ever existed.We think why we exist. ( refute: monkeys use and make tools )
MrBronbron 1 year ago
@MrBronbron Animals can also use tools and form complex societies. Surely that presents the case that evolution can account for human intelligence and not god. Apes are much like humans, only...modified. They aren't as smart but are far stronger. Also, humans did not learn to use complex tools overnight. They had to experiment and develop for thousands of years. Doesn't that prove that their skills are their own and not from an outside influence?
MunkyDrag0n 1 year ago
@MunkyDrag0n umm no it doesnt... god took a few thousand years to send us a savior(jesus) so does that prove that god is lazy? no, it says god goes by his own plan not ours. As for apes forming complex societies show me one like the one we live in or show me an ape make an axe and ill believe that humans arent the only animals that can create things like farms and buildings and tools.Show me a video from youtube.
MrBronbron 1 year ago
@MrBronbron That is a what-if. Time suggests change without god is just as possible as change with god. What proof (besides ideological) is there that god made change slow? You put unfair standards on apes. They can never be that smart in their current states. We evolved toward intelligence, not them. Strength was more favorable to them in the jungle. It just doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to find tings in common, especially when we share 99% of our DNA with them. Videos by tehinfidel
MunkyDrag0n 1 year ago
It doesnt matter when it was found or how old it is.....wether it be the dead sea scrolls or the bible, you cannot link ANYTHING to a god.
talover30 1 year ago
@talover30 Im an atheist, Im just sayin Dude doesnt know his bible or the "facts" about it. He thinks the dead sea scrolls are the originials (if I remember right, its been 2 weeks since I watched this). But you are correct, I agree.
seanturpin01 1 year ago
I feel sorry for Christians. I don't understand how an intelligent person can believe there is an invisible, magical sky-daddy who is listening/mind-reading and granting wishes when people close their eyes and talk to themselves.
lesliekwan80 1 year ago 11
@lesliekwan80 Unfortunately the thing is easier for smart people to continue believing these things. If you get a belief instilled in you during childhood (when we're wired to accept as read whatever our parents tell us) then a smart person will be better able to come up with reasons to justify their belief later in life.
FireDragons42 1 year ago 8
@FireDragons42 Nice insight.
LorentJovet 1 year ago
@FireDragons42 So, are you calling Matt dumb? Why wasn't Matt brainwashed? You argument is baseless. Every atheist I have ever met grew up in a Christian home. You atheists have such a superiority complex. You think you're the only ones who "know" the truth; everyone else are idiots.
YesYou123333 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 I'm not calling Matt dumb, you're implying a false dichotomy there. And Matt was "brainwashed" as you put it. He was a Christian until he began studying to go to seminary. It was the command to be able to provide proof of your beliefs that caused him to look for the evidence and eventually led to him being an atheist.
As for "every atheist growing up in a Christian home", I am an example of an atheist that never was raised in any religion.
FireDragons42 1 year ago 4
@FireDragons42 You still didn't answer my question. Why was Matt not brainwashed? You told me he "looked for the evidence". Why haven't others done the same thing? Is Matt special? Matt is typical of the atheists I have met in my life. Grew up in a Christian home..etc. I have met many atheists who went to Catholic School their whole life and have become atheists. Strange thing, this brainwashing. It works on some but not others.
YesYou123333 1 year ago
YesYou123333
And let me tell you why brainwashing works on some and not on others.
1st, I was one who grew up Catholic, but became Born Again after Vietnam, in a Vet. Hospital. I recently became an atheist after several years of intense bible study. Now, here's the difference. The one big factor in my life was in being honest with myself. It was the biggest obstacle I ever faced, bcuz it's the hardest thing to do after yrs of denial. When 1 gets honest after facing the facts, he'll leave.
Cootabux 1 year ago
YesYou123333
So Matt had to reach that point in life, just as I did (except he did it B4 me). When u reach that point & admit that prayer doesn't work, and it certainly doesn't conform to scripture, then start asking yourself the hard questions of all the other problems in scripture, and there are many, you'll wake up..."if" you are a man of honor and integrity, bcuz the hardest thing of all is facing the music. It isn't easy to confront the things we were told to "just believe" cuz it's god!.
Cootabux 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 If you really feel this way prove these supposedly arrogant Atheists wrong and provide evidence for your god. Until you do, why on earth would we be unjustified in thinking you silly for claiming something is true without producing ANY evidence to support it?
If I claimed spiderman was real and pointed to the spiderman comic saying he was real and you called me foolish for believing that after I refused to provide any evidence then according to you that would make you arrogant.
DarkBunnyLord 1 year ago
YesYou123333
"You atheists have such a superiority complex. You think you're the only ones who "know" the truth; everyone else are idiots."
Oh, now I see where you're coming from. I should have known. When I saw that comment, "are u calling Matt dumb," I immediately knew it was an insulting, divisive remark, & I doubt u have any real interest in learning anything about us.
So I offer you a challenge. Come to my channel & debate the biblical issues, which I contend will prove your god is evil.
Cootabux 1 year ago
@Cootabux It's impossible for you to prove God is evil because, as an atheist, you can define "evil" any way you want to. How do we know a thousand years from now you won't consider the God of the OT a real sweetheart? Maybe by then the definition for evil will change.
YesYou123333 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 - It's just as impossible for you to prove God is good because, as a Christian, you can define "good" any way you want to such that God always appears good. It all always comes down to what humans define as good or evil.
mnkittel 11 months ago
@mnkittel That would only be true if God didn't exist but He does so your argument missed the mark.
YesYou123333 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 - No, EVEN if God does exist, that doesn't automatically establish that God is always necessarily "good." Whether God exists is an entirely different question. I'm not even asking you to establish that God exists (because you can't), but for the sake of argument, assuming that God exists, then you need to prove that God is always good. Hint: merely because God says he's good doesn't make it so.
mnkittel 11 months ago
@mnkittel Of course it does. Just the fact He says He's good makes it so.
YesYou123333 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 - So when god kills people, that's good? When god lies and deceives people, that's good? When god kills women and children and orders his people to rip babies from the wombs of their mothers, that's all good?
mnkittel 11 months ago
@mnkittel If God says it, yes.
YesYou123333 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 - Well that's perfect. You've just demonstrated that you have no sense of morality of your own and you believe you are completely dependent on a tyrant authority figure to tell you what's right and wrong. You don't believe that murder is wrong, you don't believe that rape is wrong - you merely believe "whatever god says is wrong is wrong". You've just claimed to follow complete moral relativism.
mnkittel 11 months ago
@mnkittel There is nothing wrong with being completely dependent of a perfect God. I don't condone murder but I also don't have the infinite wisdom of God.
YesYou123333 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 - Yes there is. It makes you a slave and it gives you the mentality of the slave. You no longer feel responsible for anything you do in your life and given all that responsibility over to an imaginary being, so that you never have to feel bad for anything you do in this life. You no longer have to care how your actions affect people because you can just tell yourself "jesus forgives me even if no one else does" and be content with that. How pathetic and inhuman.
mnkittel 11 months ago
@mnkittel You don't have a clue what it is to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. First of all, when Christ takes over your life, you no longer WANT to do anything that goes against His will. So, in effect, you become like Him. Notice how I wrote "like Him" because we can never become as perfect as He is but this is the Lords goal; to make us like His Son.
YesYou123333 11 months ago
@mnkittel
You don't have any constructive arguments, so you resort to mockery and ridicule, as all infantile cyber bullying atheists do. You have no idea what its like to be a child of God, so take your cyber bullying somewhere else.
ChristJesusReigns 10 months ago
@ChristJesusReigns - Oh please. If the truth about your religion hurts that much, then quit trying to defend it.
mnkittel 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Weird, I´ve never met any atheist who grew up in a christian home
antibulletdodger101 1 year ago
@antibulletdodger101 hi
FrontlinerCdV 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 I am an Atheist who has never seen a bible or been in a church.
So you are wrong.
Karoke77 11 months ago
@YesYou123333 How is being intellectually honest and not lying about what you "know" to be true a superiority complex?
The fact is that most Theists tend to claim they "know" what is real and apply false logic that not only contradicts itself but uses special pleading and blatantly ignore all evidence to the contrary.
As an Atheist we look at the evidence and see none for God and so come to the conclusion that there is no more evidence for one than Santa.
It's simple, show evidence or shut up.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Why do I need to show you evidence? It puzzles me when atheists like Matt Dillahunty and Christopher Hitchens demand evidence and then admit even if the God of the Bible were true they wouldn't worship Him. Do you think that's why God does not present them with "evidence"?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Because you're insisting your god is real. Whether or not we'd worship him is irrelevant to this fact, if he was real and you had evidence we'd at least acknowledge that he was, this wouldn't however forgive all of the horrible atrocities he committed in the bible.
The point is if I'm telling you there is a magical invisible and intangible dragon in my garage it is on me to provide the evidence as I am making the positive claim, not you to disprove it.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord My position is it takes the intervening of The Holy Spirit to make one believe. So, I ask you again. For what reason would the Lord intervene to make you believe?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Why wouldn't he? If he wants people to believe in him and praise him then why not provide sufficent evidence?
It claims he wants everyone to return to him and belief in him his necessary for this then why on earth would he hide himself behind a book that contradicts itself?
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord No, the question is why WOULD He? You already admitted you wouldn't worship Him so why should He waste His time?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 I don't know, why would he make me with skepticism? Why would he create people just to be damned? Why would he kill billions, support slavery, support rape, support murder, and expect to be worshipped?
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord I don't know. If you felt that way about me, I'd stay away from you too.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Yay you can't answer the simplest of contradictions to your own faith so again you dodge the question. Doing wonderful proving your own faith wrong there pal.
Again I ask, your faith claims God made everyone, it also claims he is omnipotent (power to do anything) and omnscient (knows everything), so if he knew making me in a specific way, in a specific place, at a specific time would lead me to lacking belief in him then it's his own fault.
Bravo for your self defeating sky daddy
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord He didn't make you that way. You want to be that way. You already admitted you don't want to worship Him even if He stood in front of you. So quit hiding behind this "non-belief" BS. You hate God. Pure and simple. God gave you a choice and you made it. Quit blaming God for it. Atheists never want to take responsibility for their own decisions. This is the reason they don't want there to be a God. Because they don't want the responsibility.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Pardon but is or isn't your God omnipotent and omnscient?
If he's both then yes, he did make me this way.
Of course I wouldn't worship him. Unlike you I'm not willing to worship a being that endorses slavery, rape, murder, genocide, etc, etc.
Next I don't hate God any more than I hate Voldimort from Harry Potter. Both are deplorable fictional characters.
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DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord No He didn't make you this way. You have chosen not to worship Him. It's your choice but don't be so shocked when He doesn't prove Himself to you. He has NO reason to present Himself to you. God doesn't want to be around those who don't want to be around Him. You trying to paint Him evil fails because He is perfect in everything He does. If I were to break the legs of someone running towards a broken bridge, you would call me evil if you didn't know the bridge was out.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 I realize you're to stupid to understand simple cause and effect but let me lay it out slowly for you.
A persons decisions are shaped by the chemical balances in their brain and their experiences in life. If God had the power to set everything up however he wanted and then place people in a time and place while choosing how to form their brains with full knowledge before he even created them of what would happen do to his choices then yes, it would be his fault. Thinking, try it.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Is that the excuse you're going to give Him?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Nice rebuttal, I see your to ignorant of your own religion and common sense to actually address a response.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 (cont) Oh painting him evil fails?
So you think it's ok to kill babies? You think slavery is ok? You think murdering people just because they don't believe in god is just and kind? Really?
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord You can't compare my morals with an all knowing God. I don't possess the knowledge of God. He knows everything so I don't question His decisions. If you saw me breaking the legs of a person running towards a cliff you would think I was evil if you didn't know about the cliff. Knowledge can effect what one does. If I didn't know about the cliff I would never break his legs but because I do I saved his life. Does that make me evil?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 And there you have it folks, the admitance of ignorance. Bravo, if you don't know everything then how do you know he does? If you can't judge his actions evil then how the fuck can you honestly call them good either?
If I saw you breaking someones legs running towards a cliff it wouldn't matter, I certainly wouldn't call your actions good. On top of this if a being has INFINITE POWER to do ANYTHING and their choice is "kill everything" then they're evil.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord God's good because He says He's good. That settles it.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Right so you have absolutely no evidence for your god or for him being good.
Nice, that's like saying spiderman is real because his comic book says he's real. Guess with that level of reasoning it's no wonder you're Christian.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord He created everything. By default, that makes Him good.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 No it doesn't. You're arguing might makes right, no it makes capable but not right.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 (cont) Then you go on to claim that Atheists don't want to take responsibility for our actions?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Unlike you dipshit christians we don't think that we can just pray for forgiveness and be hunky dorey. We ARE responsible for our actions because what we do we have to deal with. The consequences can't be prayed away for Atheists you ignorant buffoon.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Thanks for the compliment. You have no concept of what prayer is. NONE.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 And you have no concept of what an Atheist is. We know we have to be responsible for our actions, we know the only person that can forgive us is the person we slighted, and when we do good things we don't do them for some great reward after we die.
Suck on that fuck nut.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord "Fuck Nut"? Wow you're getting better. What if the person you slighted doesn't know about it?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Then they shouldn't be making comment about it. You pointed out several Atheists that had done bad things as if it was even remotely relevant. Thier Atheism no more guided their actions than them having mustaches or liking a particular type of food.
Until you can prove that there lack of belief in a God was the motivation for said actions and not the plethora of political and power related motivations you're just puffing smoke.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Let me see, we have 4 evil dictators and they kill as many people as they can. Hmmmmmm,,,they're all atheist, we know that, and atheists think humans are no more important than a cock roach....nahhhh, you're right their atheism had nothing to do with it..I think. No, no connection there...
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333
Again you make some huge leap of logic to support your pathetically infantile argument.
Just because as Atheists we don't believe humans are divine beings above all other things doesn't mean we're suicidal moron. Quite the opposite if you'd bother to study evolution or social evolution what so ever, of course that would involve reading and seeing how many things you seem to miss even here in small paragraphs on youtube we know that much is beyond you.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Oh, so you got your morals from a rock? Makes sense. How can you even trust them? Maybe taking candy from a baby is good?
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Oh goody more ignorance of evolution, you really never have picked up a book on it have you?
Figures.
No, we got our morals off simple evolution of pack instinct. It's the same reason ants or wolves don't kill each other, because, get this, THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE. Gasp what a shock, evolution the thoery of creatures that are better apt at surviving continuing while those that don't die off and the predisposition to not harm each other happening being the breed that lives, shocking!
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord Oh, so you don't kill each other because you want to survive? Wouldn't it be easier to survive if you DID kill each other? There would be more food and stuff. Last time I grew tomatoes in the garden I didn't need anyone. And, why don't us humans still have tails? I could use a tail. Imagine how much easier it would be to take in groceries? You wouldn't need anybody form the "pack" to help you.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 As a pack animal our survival is often better as a group. I can't possibly research to cure all diseases, grow food, provide comforts that make survival more enjoyable, etc so no killing others WOULDN'T help us survive. You made an asinine claim and you know it.
Holy crap did you read ANYTHING about evolution? We don't have tails because evolution isn't always a perfect step forwards it's random characteristics generated over long periods of time, those that help survival stick.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord So, you mean there is still a chance I will grow a tail? Oh goodie.
YesYou123333 10 months ago
@YesYou123333 Again you cite a gross misunderstanding of evolution. It doesn't happen over night, it doesn't happen in one lifetime, noticeable changes take thousands of years for most creatures. Macro evolution tends to be the exception, given their changes require much less do to their more simplistic composition and rate of life.
DarkBunnyLord 10 months ago
@DarkBunnyLord So, it takes thousands of years. What a coincidence. I can prove anything if it takes thousands of years. I can prove unicorns exist. All I need to say is it "takes thousands of years to prove it". And, what a coincidence, we only live for 70-80 years so you can't show me but IT'S A FACT!!!!. Your thousands of years claim is nothing but smoke and mirrors that devolves you of the responsibility of proving it.
YesYou123333 10 months ago