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  • 4: If schools did that, it would take time out of a kid's day to learn it. My problem is that if anything is sacrificed for the teaching of a myth, that sacrifice is unjustified.

  • 3: Not that I can think of. If someone points something out to me that I believe on faith, however, I will stop believing it until I find evidence for it.

  • 2: I don't think so. When I first lost faith in God I actually tried to get it back. Didn't work.

  • 1: The deist god is impossible to disprove, so no.

  • 5. No, I don't think that my life is generically any more fulfilling than the lives of Christians. Nor do I think that it is generically any less fulfilling than a Christian life. Having once been an evangelical Christian I can say confidently that my life is no more or less "fulfilling" as an atheist. I am delighted with my life as are, I'm sure, many Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Pagans, atheists, etcetera.

  • 4. Would you have a problem with an elective course that taught Islamic faith, not as a comparative study, but as religious training, if the course was entirely elective and the teacher was not paid?

    Look, if someone wants to reserve a room at a school during off-school hours and teach a creation class to anyone who wants to sign up, without spending any public funds to do so, that's fine with me. But any sort of religious training as part of any public school curriculum is unconstitutional.

  • 3. I define "faith" and "hope" differently. "Faith" I define as belief without evidence. "Hope" I define as a provision for the probability of a future desirable event. I have hope in a great many things for which the future outcome is uncertain. But I have come to regard belief in something without any supporting evidence counterproductive and nothing more than an expression of my own desire to impose my will on the universe.

  • 2. Yes, I believe that in the majority of individual cases, people choose to believe or not believe things for which there is no evidence. Indoctrination certainly plays a large part, but when confronted with a claim for which there is no supporting evidence, one can choose to believe without proof, disbelieve without proof, or, (the preferable option in my view) suspend judgement and simply lack belief until such time, if ever, that further evidence is forthcoming.

  • 1. No, I can't prove that gods don't exist. I would need the capacity to search the entire universe to state with certainty that gods were not present anywhere. The same is true of all the gods in which you lack belief. I can't prove that there isn't a '63 Dodge Dart orbiting a star in the Andromeda galaxy, but that isn't a sound reason to conclude that it is there. Not being able to prove the nonexistence of supernatural beings is no reason to argue that they exist. This applies to ALL gods.

  • 1.- You want people to believe? then It is your job to prove that hes real, it's not our problem.

    2.- Yes, If it wasn't a choice an individual could make..then we would all believe the same retarded thing.

    3.- No, almost all atheists dont believe in something they cant see or feel.

    4.- I think both theories should be rejected or accepted, If you teach one of them then you should give students another choice.

    5.- I wouldnt apreciate life the way I do. If I knew I had another eternal life anyways

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    4) yes, because its being taught as fact. If there was a class being objectively taught that explained how different religions understand the creation of the universe fine.

    5) Its hard to measure fulfilment, But I could argue that it has more meaning in the here and now. As a christian, this life is a precursor to eternity and you can sacrifice aspects of it because you have all of eternity. to an atheist there is more value and incentive to make the best of this life.

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    1) no, but I don’t have to, its you who is making the claim, I simply don’t believe it.

    2) is faith a choice? I’d say its more of a process of learning and understanding.

    3) Do I have faith? not that I am aware of. Do I have hope, sure, but thats different than faith. ie. I hope we fix some of the crap in the world right now.

  • i have question for you my good man does 3=1 if not which it already doesnt then how is it the father,son and holy spirit. are there three gods or is there one

  • To answer the questions I would have to watch the video. From the answers already given, I can see that they a stupid questions. So, no.

  • 1. God is a self contradiction and therefore does not exist. Can I prove that self contradictions don't exist? nope, but I have never seen one.

    2. Beliefs aren't choices, you are either convinced or you're not. I can't choose to believe in leprechauns even if I was offered 5bil-tril dollars to believe. ( would want to)

    3. I haven't seen the dark side of the moon.

    4. Trash the idea of public schools all together.

    5. I don't care, I'm not a utilitarian.

  • 1. No.

    2. Usually, yes. People *can* be tyrannized into faith, though, at which point it's not as clear-cut.

    3. Hmm... nothing I can't see at all, but many things that I don't see very clearly. Examples include humanity, the scientific method and people's ability to improve themselves.

    4. Yes. Science classes should teach science, regardless of pay and process.

    5. In most cases, yes. I'm more independent and free. I'm entirely responsible for my own actions with no caveats, ifs or buts.

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  • @aLOVINGinfidel just answer the questions and don't try to start crap

  • Five stupid questions.

  • 1 Don't need to prove it to 100% but I put my certainty for disbelieving in God on the same level as my disbelieve in leprechauns

    2.neither, faith is just a learned behavior and so is voluntary as much as any other learned behavior.

    3 Nope (and by "can't see" I assume you mean "don't know")

    4 yes, I don't believe that the teaching of any specific religious belief should be taught in a public school.

    5 comparative fulfillment is silly. don't know & don't care about the fulfillment of others

  • but why do you ask those questions to atheists alone? being atheist is just the lack of belief in god. most atheists got different reasons for not believing in god, eventhough they seem alike. why dont you ask philosophers, scentists and people from other religions the same questions instead of stereotyping atheists?

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  • Hmmm. I wonder why the like/dislikes are disabled here just like ALL the other creationist vids?? I am guessing that when I hit POST it will not be posted immediately. I may be wrong, but I will wait for EVIDENCE.

  • @iihippoii OMG it posted!! Guess I am going to change my beliefs in reality and science to make believe and fantasy. GOOOOOO GANDALF!!! Blessed be the hobbits. Ahem, but no really though, Santa died on the cross so we can get swag at christmas so respect yo.

  • 1) Not even mathematics is proved with 100% certainty. Even with proof by computer a human being has to judge it at some point, introducing a weak link in the chain. And "God" is an incredibly vague word; it could mean everything from a disembodied mind that created the universe to a "creative force" to mere immortals or superhumans like the Norse or Roman gods.

    I am very confident there can be no disembodied and timeless mind, though.

  • 2) What do you mean by "faith"? Do you mean trust? Hope? Belief?

    You can choose to act as if you trust and i'd call that choosing to trust. You can choose to hope, I think. Choosing to believe, though... that seems more like a failure to properly function. It might happen but I wouldn't celebrate it.

    3) I trust in certain people's character, I hope things will be alright after I'm gone.

    4) I oppose the teaching of thoroughly debunked things regardless how elective or cheap the offer.

  • 5) I don't think there's any significant correlation between where someone falls on the belief/nonbelief scale and how fulfilling their life is. Any effect would be indirect, coming more from things like the number and depth of the connections formed with people.

  • 1. No, there could be some kind god, just not the one you're advocating for

    2. No, if you choose to believe something you're deceiving yourself

    3. Fate/hope? no, but there are things I don't see that I have reasons to believe are true.

    4. I wouldn't have only if the creation classes teach all creation myths equally :)

    5. I'm a deist rather then an atheist and I don't know how could I even judge that. I'm happy, I know Christians and atheists who are at least as happy as I am.

  • 1. That depends on the definition, and there are millions of definitions of what a “god” is. It's far from all, but some, I can, yes. (An immortal, omnipotent god is impossible, for instance.)

    2. Hmmm. Essentially, no.

    3. No. (Faith, being defined as belief without any reason). Hope. Sure. I hope for many things.

    4. If it would still be taught to children as if it was a well established fact, then I would, yes.

    5. I assume I value this life more, since I believe this is my one and only life.

  • 1.No. But we never claimed to know that there is no god, we just point out that the theists have yet to show that there belief are correct.

    2.In a way yes. You don't chose what you believe, as the evidence for a claim either convinces you or not. But you can choose really think about what you believe and train yourself to think about what you believe and why. And with that you learn that faith, as in believing without evidence or rational reasons, is not the way to find out what is really true.

  • 3. Faith no. Hope sure.

    4. Yes. The only why creationism should get in to class is if the creationists do the research, write the papers, get them peer-reviewed and get scientific consensus. That is the way ever other idea in science get in to school, I don't see why creationism should get a free pass.

    5. Maybe, but I don't see how that is relevant at all to the truth of the matter. I rather face a hard truth then a comfortable lie.

  • 1. No, no one can prove 100% certainty of anything, we live in a world of probability.

    2. You would have to better define "faith" before I could answer this.

    3. No I don't have faith in anything. I have trust in things and in people, and I have reasonable expectations based on evidence, but faith is useless.

    4. Yes I would have a problem with that, schools are for education.

    5. The fulfillment of one's life is irrelevant to their belief in a god.

  • I only have one question for you: Can you prove with 100% certainty that there is a god?

  • 1. Negative proof, fools errand.

    2. No, even when choosing we are bound to choose what feels is the right thing.

    3. I have hope in humanity, i think we are getting better as more people get educated.

    4. Deppends if its taugth as a "fact" or as a possibility.

    5. I think my life fulfillment has nothing to do with my lack of believe of god, the same way I know happy and miserable Christians that believe the same stuff. Its ones attitude to life, not belief what brings fulfillment.

  • @orcodrilo ! altough, if god was "well defined" and showed to have contradictory qualities in its definition that will prove logically that that god as defined does not exist. The issue of "well defined definition of god" is already a problem that dwells a lot in semantics.

  • *Add on* to Question/Answer 4.

    I wouldn't teach children about my new Bugatti that goes twice as fast as the SS because it doesn't exist and isn't proven to exist , once it does exist and is proven to exist then I would teach them about how it was created.

  • @LogicalStatements3 Poor soul.... I hope you don't go to hell.

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  • So much for a thumbs up for an objective quesiton set that didn't contain a single loaded question.

    I'm such a dork, I tried clicking it again. LOL

  • 1. No.

    2. No.

    3. No.

    4. No. Too many religions and too many Christian sects. Nobody would be able to agree on a national standardized version of creationism without offending other religions or sects. It should be up to the parents and their church, they are the only ones that can tell it like their religion/sect sees it "correctly."

    5. No. We seem to make our own reality. Mine has nothing supernatural.

  • 1) no

    2) no

    3) no

    4) As in creationism? No, school is for learning.

    5) no

  • 1. No, and no atheist that I know has ever claimed they could.

    2. Depends in what context you are using the word 'faith'.

    3. I have faith and hope that my children will grow up to be who they choose to be.

    4. No, I would not have a problem with it. My child has been raised to explore ALL of his options, he chooses to go to bible camp in the summer - and I do not deter him.

    5. That is not a question I can answer, I am not a Christian. My life however, is very fulfilling :O)

  • 1. No, but atheists don't claim to be able to, christian's do claim they can prove god is real with 100% certainty.

    2. Depends on your definition of faith, .if you mean religious it is by choice.

    3. Yes, I have faith and hope that I will live to see tomorrow.

    4. I don't care. It is not your faith that bothers me, it is the people that try to force it on me that do.

    5. No, each person finds their own fulfillment.

  • 1. No. I also can't prove with 100% certainty that I'm not a brain in a vat.

    2. No. We believe things based on our personal evidence. We even consider our own "feelings" evidence.

    3. Yes. Sadly, there is more than sufficient evidence to believe in farts :(

    4. Not at this time. Even a class giving equal time to all known creation stories is wasteful while illiterate kids graduate high school unprepared to exist in civilization.

    5. No. Humans fulfill their subjective purposes individually.

  • 1) No, I can't, but that isn't the claim atheism makes. I open minded but you need to have evidence to support your claims. The burden of proof isn't on the person rejecting the claims

    2) No, I have no choice in not believing, I cannot believe something I see no evidence for.

    3) I hope to be happy, does that count?

    4) Do I have a problem with kids being taught fantasy as truth? Of course I do.

    5) Life is what you make it.

  • 1. No - Mainly because the (deist) invisible god concept is designed to be unfalsifiable. 2. Faith can be a choice sure. 3) Sure I have hope. I hope people won't rip me off in financial deals. Sometimes I might have faith in a similar way. 4) Creation is not appropriate to teach in science class as science. Teach it under the religious title is ok. 5) "Fulfilling" is a changing dynamic subjective spectrum. Short answer no. - Good vid dude.

  • 1. what do you mean by God. 2. Faith, yes, but there are beliefs and assumptions people adopt without choosing. Lack of faith is not a choice but default. 3. I hope for a lot, like I'll sell this screenplay I'm writing. But that lacks the certainty of faith. 4. As long as they're using school resources, I'm against it. 5. I think that's subjective.

  • 4) didnt understand

    5) yes because i learn about their god's creation and they dont.

    they go to church when i go to a lab or out into nature to learn how their god's creation works. they claim to know it all, they even know what their god thinks and wants.

    i dare to face facts and deal with it, instead of believing in an obvious the man made concept that is christiany, one among hundreds of other religions, but not a proven one, and not a convincing one...

  • 5. I could say, It depends on the person, I know I felt fulfilled when I thought I had all the answers in god, But Seeing it for false consolation and ignorant bliss that it is , Is Both enlightening and a bit sad.

  • 1) you cant prove something doesn't exist. how would you do that? it would require all knowledge of everything and everywhere. now if something is illogical, like a square circle, then id say it doesnt exist. so if someone believe in a god that is all-powerful all-good and loving, he cant do evil or create evil. some religions believe that god exists anyway, but it is logically flawed, because evil exist, and their dogma explains how the god did evil.

    2) yes.

    3) i hope i wake up tomorrow.

  • 4.Well they would still be using school resources and taking time from teaching for spreading lies so yes I would have a problem with that. But it depends on the context , If its comparing verious creation accounts in a religous studies class or trying to be pasts off as science.

  • 1. Nope But why should be care about 100% certainty, Are you 100% Allah or cosmic teapots do not exist?

    2.Yes and No, Beliefs are not a matter simple choice, we cant chose to believe we can drink poison and live, We are forced to believe what we are convinced is true. Faith is Abdication of reason to a dogma, its the excuse ppl give when they dont have good reason for belief.

    3. Cant 'see' Yes, But Id say can have hope and trust based in things that have good evidence behind them.

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