Good video, the 38+p is a pretty good round, adequate for self defense. The 642 is a great ccw, easy to conceal especially in a front pocket and very comfortable to carry all day. What good is a big caliber gun that weighs to much and too big to carry all day. You need a gun you'll carry all day not just occasionally. A bigger caliber is better but sometimes it's not feasible to carry. How many people do you know that Carey's a 380? Well, a 38 is much better. Police carried 38's for years an
great video. the only inconsistency i can see with your tests is that you're shooting back to back so your hand is going to be more sore after each firing test. kinda like when you're working out and the weights get heavier with each set. maybe if you like shake your hand out and give it a couple minutes between you would get slightly more accurate results. great vid though. very helpful. love the lcr.
I found this very helpful to have a direct comparison of these revolvers with the various ammunition and how they compare in comfort. In your opinion do you think the comfort levels are all due to grip design or do you think the Ruger polymer frame adds any advantage to comfort? Great video...thanks.
Apart from the comfort of your hand what OTHER characteristics would be superior with one model over the other. For instance, which one had the best trigger pull or better accuracy? I know the main purpose is for carry concealment as an off-duty weapon & there should be SOME range practice to drive home muscle memory, safety, accuracy.Which of the three,OR I guess it would be "of the two" would be THE ALL AROUND most favorable? From what I could tell - looks like the Ruger is the best. THX JAMES
It's the grip's that make the difference in comparison. The lighter the pistol the more recoil you will have. I'm bot a big fan of the grips that expose the backstrap. Pachmayer or Hogue are the way to go.
LOL. Love all you Youtube commandos who hate on 38 sp. Any of you want to volunteer to take a 158 gr LSWCHP @ 1000fps in the chest? Will ANY common handgun ammo out of a compact barrel really give you a one shot stop? Gimme a fkin break. Btw, this is a very, very helpful review. Thank you for the honest comments. I'm shopping for a purse gun for the lady and recoil is a huge factor. She has to be willing to practice w/ it regularly, so something that hurts is just not going to work.
I have the 442, it's a sweet gun. True about not using every day, but you will be more likely to practice regularly if it doesn't hurt your hand. Too easy to put off practice if you know you'll be sore from it.
@gshdrums I prefer to practice with the same gun I will actually be using in a self-defense situation so it needs to be something that is comfortable for me to use regularly.
My husband purchased this gun for me and installed a Hi-Viz Fiber Optic Sight, I love it. The trigger is smooth and better then a S&W Model 60. I lock and load with Hornady Critical Defense Ammo which will get the job done period.
If you get hungry after a day of target shooting stop by my cooking channel and see whats cooking.
Grips are EVERYTHING when it comes to small revolvers. By this point in time, any company can make a reliable and accurate small revolver, it's definitely all about the design of the grips and the ergonomics in general.
I think the best advice to anyone seeking a small CCW revolver is to make sure you find the one that has most comfortable and soft grips. For me, the S&W 642 with the crimson trace grips works wonders, those CT grips not only add a laser, but they're comfortable as all hell.
Nice review; thanks for taking the time to inform us who are sincerely interested. Do not let the "crying" comments below get you discouraged or feel unappreciated. As someone who has arthritis and one severely and permanently damaged hand, I would like to know any issues regarding kick and recoil. I once owned over a dozen revolvers; some bought not knowing I might be unable to shoot (due to their model, design and type) without serious grip replacements. Sometimes I ended up just selling.
@GunWebsites FYI - due to your review video I just purchased the Crimson Trace 405 grip for my 442; it feels very nice in hand and cannot wait to try out at the range. Referencing your other comment below, "in other words you can't just add grips to a poor gun to make it comfortable to shoot", IMO it depends upon what is meant by "bad". I had a Ruger 44 mag (stock grips) and my hand would hurt for days after hours of shooting - until I used Hogues, which eliminated the pain (for me).
@ThePrivateMan Not only do I find this realistic review useful, but I am sure that many of our elder shootists appreciate recoil comparisons on their future handgun purchases. Especially those with arthritis or shooters with injured hands & limbs. The average citizen & countryman is not some macho secret spy 'tactical' assassin hell-bent on destroying a nation. We rather want a refined weapon to defend our family & freedom. We do not fancy bloody handshakes :P lol
Stop crying! All I heard in your video was "oh my thumb knuckle" "the recoil on the back strap..." "It drew blood" "my hand is swollen" gimme a break! Are you kidding me??? What blood? Where!? Their lightweight revolvers, what don't you understand about recoil and weight?? stick with pepper spray, the recoil is none, but im sure you'd end up spraying your own face... Fucking cry baby
@GunWebsites Fantastic comeback, evidently this gorilla likes heavy recoil and not being able to hit the target. I have carried all manner of small snubs for over thirty years most as a backup but many times as a primary with a second lightweight as backup. Recoil is always a factor with a lightweight not so much with a 27 oz. steel Colt. I have always disliked the S&W cylinder latch and either replaced it or had it recontoured and reblued. Keep up the good info and disregard the ass!!!
I prefer the model 438.. the bobbed hammer never "snags" when I draw it, so I don't see the point in owning a hammerless revolver. But when i pocket carry it does collect lint, in areas where the 442 / 642 wouldn't
@kgradio The SP101 is an excellent revolver but a little heavy in the pocket, but if you holster carry its like a tank, I have owned 2 of them one in .357 Mag and another in .22 LR
My grandfather bought an LCR for my grandmother to carry and I have to say, eleven ounces just feels to light, it fells like a toy almost. OTOH it only makes carrying it easier.
Wonder what size CT Grips he had on the SW 642? They make three sizes, LG105, LG305 and LG405. I have a 642 with 305's and I hear the 105's are much better.
I wonder how the 342 would have done with better grips, like the other two had.? You mentioned you had it previously, but didn't mention what type of grips. The triggers between the Ruger and S&W's do feel markedly different. I also wonder how the materials in the Ruger would hold up compared to the Smith in the long run. What do you think? I've also heard other criticisms about the Ruger, as I'm sure you have. All nice guns. Good video. Thank you.
Do you think the 442 won because of the Crimson Tracers and the padded backstrap? Y or N? Personally speaking, do you prefer the staged trigger pull of the S&W or the Ruger? Ultimately, did the 442 win because of the Crimson Tracers? What influence did the round load have on your decision of choice of firearm between the Ruger & S&W? I like the smoothness of the Ruger. I prefer the single action option of the Bodyguard. What would you advise? Either way, I'm going Crimon Trace no question. 5*
So from what I've shot of them I like their trigger better than the S&W.. but that may change once I get more trigger time on it
I don't think the grips are all that important to the revolver.. in other words you can't just add grips to a poor gun to make it comfortable to shoot..
That said.. when a gun is OK to shoot, the grips can 'upgrade it' to very nice to shoot
@bladeimm - Excellent questions...that were not discussed. Not to criticize the video, but the results were predictable by gun weight. Other bottom line questions include: 1. Do the outside dimensions of he LCR match those of SW snubbies, thus allowing use of the same holsters? ...especially Kydex holsters. 2. Do SW third party accessories fit the LCR, e.g., Crimson Trace grips. 3. If not, what is the reason to purchase the Ruger over an SW, aside from the novelty?
You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, however,
1. Name any kydex holster that allows another brand to fit well? Plus we don't wear our backup guns in kydex holsters.. so we compared pocket holsters which we do carry in
2. I am not aware of ANY crimson trace laser that works across models, let alone across brands.. so any comparison of if a S&W laser grip would fit a new Ruger seems far from "bottom line" to me ..
@GunWebsites 1. 1911; 2. 1911; 3. For a lot of buyers, it's worth considering the after purchase support available to a handgun, and part of that is the accessories market. For example, consider a Glock versus say...a CZ Rami. Both outstandiing products, but one has a clear advantage in after market carry options. I just think an informed consumer is more likely to end up being a happy consumer, and will thus come back and buy more guns!!
@GunWebsites - My apologies if it seems that way. My comment was a reply to "bladeimm". Then you stepped into the thread, so I tried to clarify my view. The tone of your comments shows who is "just looking to fight".
I thought that range looked familiar, it's a good range, some of the officers can be extremely arrogant though...
I shoot up at Reddington now, don't have to worry about range officers yelling at and lecturing you for using "full auto" fire when all you're doing is 3 shot bursts.
Nice review though, got to see a good comparison of the different lightweight revolvers and some differing ammunition.
Just a tip, you jerk bad on the trigger, try squeezing on it in stead of jerking on it.
I have a sw642, and I have never had a sore backstrap or drew blood on my thumb knuckle during range sessions with and I have the factory grips. Maybe a difference in hand shape/size, or the way you hold it. Personally, I hold it with a two finger grip with the gun a little higher on my hand. maybe you were shooting it with your hand too high on the backstrap, try dropping your hand a little lower. Either way, "to each his own", nice video, great idea showing the different ammo options,
Great video, to be honest I'd never really thought about the 442 until I saw this.
By the way, the whole point of this video is to show a comparison. Obviously he is saying that the third revolver is "uncomfortable/ hurting his hand" to present the point that the first 2 revolvers are superior in ergonomics and recoil. He wasnt try to say "dont buy this revolver because it will hurt your hand!"
So yeah, please stop commenting with badass story comparisons. It only makes you look worse.
are you kidding? i've put at least 1000 rounds through my S&W 642 and about 100 of them were +P and if the recoil on those were hurting your hand i don't know what to tell you cause that's crazy, how does that hurt your hand lol
The 158gr lead rounds are the most anemic loads ever produced. How can it be "uncomfortable", even in the 442 with the light cylinder and uncovered metal backstrap of the frame? I've shot full power 125gr .357 Mag in a Smith similar in size, weight and features with absolutely no big deal. You are either a weak shooter or a newbie. Judging by your terminology, I'd guess it's the latter.
yea o56KID u little bitch, these people arent makin this video to be badass like you are, you're the baddest motherfucker on the continent we all know.
It's not shitty, it's light! (see info) Of course it has nastier recoil. But so what? If you're carrying it for personal defense you'll probably lug it around your whole life and never discharge it in anger - so light weight means more than light recoil. Only problem is getting off multiple shots accurately (if it comes to that - a .38 +P hits hard!)
Great video. I have an LCP and am strongly considering a LCR. I think my brother is going to beat me to it though. Might get to shoot one before I buy one. :)
Great vid. I liked the comparison format. I have a S&W model 38 airweight. That little J frame sure can kick depending on the ammo. I've got a Blackhawk 45 convertable and it seems like it is as easy shooting the 45acp one handed as it is shooting the J frame two-handed.
The big, heavy Ruger absorbs more recoil than the little J frame so even though, the 45acp has more actual recoil on paper, the percieved recoil is less or about the same as shooting the Jframe with some 38 loads.
I looked up it online and a 158 grain grain bullets going 790 fps in a .75 Lb gun loses to a 3.3 lb 44 mag ruger redhawk SS shooting a 300 grain bullet at 1350 fps.
Good Grief.. lol Consider this you people pretending to be he-men.. SOme of the greatest gun writers today describe what the call, shooters fatigue.. GOing out and shooting handguns fairly quickly within 30 minutes reguardless of caliber leading to fatigue.. It is a combination of Recoil, Noise, and the percussive properties of the soundwave.. For a good demonstration, soot a large fixed steel plate with a 38 from 10 feet and you can feel the percussive wave hit your chest.. Great Vid..
I think it would be very interesting to know how the LCR with the crimson trace laser grip compares to the 442 with the CT laser grip. Considering Ruger is supplying the gun with standard grip or CT grip, either option is available.
Fir a woman, the LCR would be great.. You may also look into the new 327 Federal in the SP-101 Series revolvers from ruger.. They can shoot lighter recoiling 32 H&R Magnums with light to almost negligable recoil.. IF you can handle the 38, perfect.. Remember though it is more important to have a light recoiling gun you are confident in and know you can hit your target with.. Great to see a lady shooter on her.. Best of luck to you Ms.
The grip made it that much more comfortable, interesting. I was surprised the KICK is that different between guns with same Ammo? Must be the 342's light weight, less to absorb recoil, plus basic grip. The lever rub didn't help. I had an older larger heavier 38 special. I had no issue shooting it (even with a hard grip). I have a .380 ACP semi-auto now, so I can't talk.
Do the soft grips grab on material making them harder to get out of a pocket?
This is a great test and a great video. You really sucked up the pain and finished!
I love the concept of Airweight/Airlight J-frames, but I'm convinced that .38 Special is too powerful a round, for me, out of these guns. Never mind +P. For carry guns, I practice one-handed shooting. The only snubby revolver I feel comfortable shooting in this way is the Ruger SP-101, so I traded in two J-frames I owned.
They were also misfiring, and their screws liked to back-out, so it was an easy choice.
Great Video... very helpful! I have been considering the LCR and the 442 for my first revolver. I have a LCP and I am an all around fan of ruger, but I am leaning towards the 442 for the reputation and asthetics.
I got my LCR today great video by the way 5 stars! I was reading through the book and it didn't say what grain to shoot or does it not matter? The 340 is the best looking the 442 is one ugly barrel
Thanks.. well we own the S&W.. the Ruger was just a loaner for the video. Neither of us plan to buy the Ruger to replace the S&W.. but If I didn't already own a lightweight S&W, I would buy the Ruger any day.. it's very comfortable to shoot
I'd like to take it out for an accuracy test, but it performed well for this test even though we didn't track the accuracy of our shots (limited time)
Very informative and useful review, and I must applaud the attention given to detail.
Having fired a 342, 442-1, and 642-1, I can definitely appreciate the recoil involved in shooting an AirLite J-frame.
Amazing what a difference a few ounces can make!
I think it's rather ironic that these compact, lightweight revolvers are more difficult to shoot than larger, heavier handguns - yet at the same time, require much more training to obtain the same degree of proficiency.
Good video, the 38+p is a pretty good round, adequate for self defense. The 642 is a great ccw, easy to conceal especially in a front pocket and very comfortable to carry all day. What good is a big caliber gun that weighs to much and too big to carry all day. You need a gun you'll carry all day not just occasionally. A bigger caliber is better but sometimes it's not feasible to carry. How many people do you know that Carey's a 380? Well, a 38 is much better. Police carried 38's for years an
Barber6498 1 week ago
Ah, the days of not being able to find ammo (2009)... I'm glad those days are over.
Riflemanm16a2 1 month ago
It bad that a little .38 will draw blood and make someone's hand swell that quick. Like Gmissile said you are shooting +P ammo out of a non +P gun.
Jwrapper282 4 months ago
If you miss the bad guy, the muzzle blast will probably set him on fire!
Seriously, going from one gun to another isn't going to prove anything. Blast sensitivity and recoil tend to be accumulative.
MuzzleBlast357 4 months ago
great video. the only inconsistency i can see with your tests is that you're shooting back to back so your hand is going to be more sore after each firing test. kinda like when you're working out and the weights get heavier with each set. maybe if you like shake your hand out and give it a couple minutes between you would get slightly more accurate results. great vid though. very helpful. love the lcr.
vice6996 4 months ago
I found this very helpful to have a direct comparison of these revolvers with the various ammunition and how they compare in comfort. In your opinion do you think the comfort levels are all due to grip design or do you think the Ruger polymer frame adds any advantage to comfort? Great video...thanks.
watchcollector1968 7 months ago
Apart from the comfort of your hand what OTHER characteristics would be superior with one model over the other. For instance, which one had the best trigger pull or better accuracy? I know the main purpose is for carry concealment as an off-duty weapon & there should be SOME range practice to drive home muscle memory, safety, accuracy.Which of the three,OR I guess it would be "of the two" would be THE ALL AROUND most favorable? From what I could tell - looks like the Ruger is the best. THX JAMES
buzzclark 8 months ago
Appreciate the Real World Review. Don't know why anyone did not like this video.
frankgon4 9 months ago
It's the grip's that make the difference in comparison. The lighter the pistol the more recoil you will have. I'm bot a big fan of the grips that expose the backstrap. Pachmayer or Hogue are the way to go.
MrBigden37 10 months ago
This guy is shooting +Ps out of non-+P guns, Duh !
At <20 feet a few 148 Wadcutters will TOTALLY ruin a recipient's day.
Superhot rounds in a J frame,especially an Airweight, is misguided
Gmissile 11 months ago
@Gmissile WRONG..... Al the revolvers he was shooting are rated for +p.... I Should know, I have two of the ones he was testing....DUH!
GottaBeekiddin 10 months ago
LOL. Love all you Youtube commandos who hate on 38 sp. Any of you want to volunteer to take a 158 gr LSWCHP @ 1000fps in the chest? Will ANY common handgun ammo out of a compact barrel really give you a one shot stop? Gimme a fkin break. Btw, this is a very, very helpful review. Thank you for the honest comments. I'm shopping for a purse gun for the lady and recoil is a huge factor. She has to be willing to practice w/ it regularly, so something that hurts is just not going to work.
lightnangles 1 year ago 3
Great comparison, glad I found this. Love that modern looking cylinder on the Ruger!
theKGB65 1 year ago
forget about the .38 for self defensive its just not powerful enough. Better off with a 9mm, 40 or 357.
2113gizmo 1 year ago
@2113gizmo you're kidding , right ?
shley65 1 year ago
@2113gizmo lmao, good one.
GMGvanS 1 year ago
In your backstrap? I didnt know you were a deer??
bigwhitee 1 year ago
that guy is such a little baby
plzfuckme1 1 year ago
I have the 442, it's a sweet gun. True about not using every day, but you will be more likely to practice regularly if it doesn't hurt your hand. Too easy to put off practice if you know you'll be sore from it.
usaruss 1 year ago
Use your left thumb to press down on your right thumb when you grip the gun. That way you wont bust your knuckel.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
it may be uncomfortable, but i think if its a self defense gun, when someones coming at you with a knife, your not really gonna care!
gshdrums 1 year ago 6
@gshdrums
good point, not like these are going to the range every week
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@gshdrums I prefer to practice with the same gun I will actually be using in a self-defense situation so it needs to be something that is comfortable for me to use regularly.
craisin7 1 year ago
@gshdrums
Or another gun.
5eaxneat 1 year ago
@gshdrums youre not gona shoot him are you? i mean its not good to kill someone
the2222full 1 month ago
@the2222full would dump a couple into his chest.
gshdrums 1 month ago
@gshdrums what
the2222full 1 month ago
My husband purchased this gun for me and installed a Hi-Viz Fiber Optic Sight, I love it. The trigger is smooth and better then a S&W Model 60. I lock and load with Hornady Critical Defense Ammo which will get the job done period.
If you get hungry after a day of target shooting stop by my cooking channel and see whats cooking.
God Bless,
Elba
elbacooks4u 1 year ago
lcr all the way
tractorman96 1 year ago
Still looking:but leaning towards Rugar!
I like the idear of a S/W but from info you
Presented as well as Others...Rugar is a
Goodchoice for me!
I am 66 and travel by car and i have a scooter i ride around town and my
Beretta is too big to carry at 3:30 position.
A shoulder for the car & waist holster are
Better for me and a small 38.when i can
Not wear waist while driving and need to
Remove 40cal and set in glove box between the seats.but have a back up 38 if approuched via the window or exiti
Xx256xx1 1 year ago
THANK YOU !!
looking for aShoulder back up wheel gun
And you SAVED ME ALOT OF DRIVING
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Xx256xx1 1 year ago
@Xx256xx1
Thanks, glad to hear it helped.. what did you end up going with?
GunWebsites 1 year ago
Grips are EVERYTHING when it comes to small revolvers. By this point in time, any company can make a reliable and accurate small revolver, it's definitely all about the design of the grips and the ergonomics in general.
I think the best advice to anyone seeking a small CCW revolver is to make sure you find the one that has most comfortable and soft grips. For me, the S&W 642 with the crimson trace grips works wonders, those CT grips not only add a laser, but they're comfortable as all hell.
metalfaust19 1 year ago
Great video! Thanks for making it, it really helped me decide on which model to get.
MaximusErectius 1 year ago
I like the light 342 gun for carry but for shooting and target practice its hell on the hands.
smartguy104 1 year ago
Try akimbo with the two bottom ones :DDD
gordodefuego 1 year ago
Nice review; thanks for taking the time to inform us who are sincerely interested. Do not let the "crying" comments below get you discouraged or feel unappreciated. As someone who has arthritis and one severely and permanently damaged hand, I would like to know any issues regarding kick and recoil. I once owned over a dozen revolvers; some bought not knowing I might be unable to shoot (due to their model, design and type) without serious grip replacements. Sometimes I ended up just selling.
ThePrivateMan 1 year ago
@ThePrivateMan
Thank you for the support
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites FYI - due to your review video I just purchased the Crimson Trace 405 grip for my 442; it feels very nice in hand and cannot wait to try out at the range. Referencing your other comment below, "in other words you can't just add grips to a poor gun to make it comfortable to shoot", IMO it depends upon what is meant by "bad". I had a Ruger 44 mag (stock grips) and my hand would hurt for days after hours of shooting - until I used Hogues, which eliminated the pain (for me).
ThePrivateMan 1 year ago
@ThePrivateMan Not only do I find this realistic review useful, but I am sure that many of our elder shootists appreciate recoil comparisons on their future handgun purchases. Especially those with arthritis or shooters with injured hands & limbs. The average citizen & countryman is not some macho secret spy 'tactical' assassin hell-bent on destroying a nation. We rather want a refined weapon to defend our family & freedom. We do not fancy bloody handshakes :P lol
ntrudr800 1 year ago
Stop crying! All I heard in your video was "oh my thumb knuckle" "the recoil on the back strap..." "It drew blood" "my hand is swollen" gimme a break! Are you kidding me??? What blood? Where!? Their lightweight revolvers, what don't you understand about recoil and weight?? stick with pepper spray, the recoil is none, but im sure you'd end up spraying your own face... Fucking cry baby
solidsignalz 1 year ago
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@solidsignalz
Big talk .. zero uploads, but you run your mouth here and post our vid on your page?
This is your achievement ??
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites Fantastic comeback, evidently this gorilla likes heavy recoil and not being able to hit the target. I have carried all manner of small snubs for over thirty years most as a backup but many times as a primary with a second lightweight as backup. Recoil is always a factor with a lightweight not so much with a 27 oz. steel Colt. I have always disliked the S&W cylinder latch and either replaced it or had it recontoured and reblued. Keep up the good info and disregard the ass!!!
gunslinger5854 1 year ago
@gunslinger5854
Thanks
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@solidsignalz dude shut up, no one cares
ericsyutubeaccount 1 year ago
great vid man :) thanks .. getting the LCR w/ CT grips
ahelms05 1 year ago
I prefer the model 438.. the bobbed hammer never "snags" when I draw it, so I don't see the point in owning a hammerless revolver. But when i pocket carry it does collect lint, in areas where the 442 / 642 wouldn't
NuJoiseyMAN 1 year ago
Very helpful video. I'm saving up to purchase the 442!
Kaylee1205 1 year ago
Very helpful video, I'm still going with a Ruger SP101 but I enjoyed this well thought out comparison of the light weight revolvers.
kgradio 1 year ago
@kgradio The SP101 is an excellent revolver but a little heavy in the pocket, but if you holster carry its like a tank, I have owned 2 of them one in .357 Mag and another in .22 LR
solidsignalz 1 year ago
we didnt see the targets !
baldbollocks 1 year ago
Thank you it was very helpful. i have been trying to decide which of these to buy
bigjim0711 1 year ago
@bigjim0711
What are you thinking about getting?
GunWebsites 1 year ago
I went with the S&W 442 for CCW. No el cheapo Rugers for me!
Ruger makes good .22s, but there are much better guns out there when you need one for self defense applications. My opinion.
FaganRoberts 1 year ago
My grandfather bought an LCR for my grandmother to carry and I have to say, eleven ounces just feels to light, it fells like a toy almost. OTOH it only makes carrying it easier.
MrMeatBullet 1 year ago
just change the grips pachymar grips are pretty good
ernk72 1 year ago
your a little bitch
plazaff 1 year ago
good Vid
ikickknowledge 1 year ago
nice video, what are your thoughts on the S&W 360pd compared to the LCR?
bellaameilon 1 year ago
@bellaameilon
Both good guns IMO.. just depends on if you like polymer or not
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@bellaameilon the smith is in 357 magnum. nuff said
spazzz64 1 year ago
Excellent review and comparison! Thank you very much!
GoBlackwater 1 year ago
LCR is the BEST, hands down. FACT.
TheLizardKing1967 1 year ago
I would LOVE to get my hands on a 342.
ctfam 1 year ago
Wonder what size CT Grips he had on the SW 642? They make three sizes, LG105, LG305 and LG405. I have a 642 with 305's and I hear the 105's are much better.
Preachersville 1 year ago
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up4daz 1 year ago
@ up4daz
I do not agree
GunWebsites 1 year ago
Excellent Video!
jaws99099 1 year ago
Nicely done video. Much thanks for posting.
Hankster651 2 years ago
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RoyalAlba1 2 years ago
I wonder how the 342 would have done with better grips, like the other two had.? You mentioned you had it previously, but didn't mention what type of grips. The triggers between the Ruger and S&W's do feel markedly different. I also wonder how the materials in the Ruger would hold up compared to the Smith in the long run. What do you think? I've also heard other criticisms about the Ruger, as I'm sure you have. All nice guns. Good video. Thank you.
bladeimm 2 years ago
Good questions, time will tell how long the Ruger lasts over time
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Good thing to keep an eye on for a follow up video.
bladeimm 2 years ago
Do you think the 442 won because of the Crimson Tracers and the padded backstrap? Y or N? Personally speaking, do you prefer the staged trigger pull of the S&W or the Ruger? Ultimately, did the 442 win because of the Crimson Tracers? What influence did the round load have on your decision of choice of firearm between the Ruger & S&W? I like the smoothness of the Ruger. I prefer the single action option of the Bodyguard. What would you advise? Either way, I'm going Crimon Trace no question. 5*
bladeimm 2 years ago
Well I don't own an LCR... yet
So from what I've shot of them I like their trigger better than the S&W.. but that may change once I get more trigger time on it
I don't think the grips are all that important to the revolver.. in other words you can't just add grips to a poor gun to make it comfortable to shoot..
That said.. when a gun is OK to shoot, the grips can 'upgrade it' to very nice to shoot
GunWebsites 2 years ago
@bladeimm - Excellent questions...that were not discussed. Not to criticize the video, but the results were predictable by gun weight. Other bottom line questions include: 1. Do the outside dimensions of he LCR match those of SW snubbies, thus allowing use of the same holsters? ...especially Kydex holsters. 2. Do SW third party accessories fit the LCR, e.g., Crimson Trace grips. 3. If not, what is the reason to purchase the Ruger over an SW, aside from the novelty?
CaptainMacNasty 1 year ago
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@CaptainMacNasty
Bottom line?
You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, however,
1. Name any kydex holster that allows another brand to fit well? Plus we don't wear our backup guns in kydex holsters.. so we compared pocket holsters which we do carry in
2. I am not aware of ANY crimson trace laser that works across models, let alone across brands.. so any comparison of if a S&W laser grip would fit a new Ruger seems far from "bottom line" to me ..
3. we don't suggest you buy anything
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites 1. 1911; 2. 1911; 3. For a lot of buyers, it's worth considering the after purchase support available to a handgun, and part of that is the accessories market. For example, consider a Glock versus say...a CZ Rami. Both outstandiing products, but one has a clear advantage in after market carry options. I just think an informed consumer is more likely to end up being a happy consumer, and will thus come back and buy more guns!!
CaptainMacNasty 1 year ago
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@CaptainMacNasty
eh.. 1911 is a model, so you didn't really answer ..
you sound like you are just looking to fight.,. good luck with that
GunWebsites 1 year ago
@GunWebsites - My apologies if it seems that way. My comment was a reply to "bladeimm". Then you stepped into the thread, so I tried to clarify my view. The tone of your comments shows who is "just looking to fight".
CaptainMacNasty 1 year ago 37
i own a lcr and as expected of a light weight snub nose 38 it kicks, however at close targets its pretty accurate for that 2in barrel
TheLonewolf313 2 years ago
thanks for the video. very helpful.
rugerp89ipsc 2 years ago
Great Video. I was looking at the Ruger LCR and now maybe the 442.
frankgon4 2 years ago
I thought that range looked familiar, it's a good range, some of the officers can be extremely arrogant though...
I shoot up at Reddington now, don't have to worry about range officers yelling at and lecturing you for using "full auto" fire when all you're doing is 3 shot bursts.
Nice review though, got to see a good comparison of the different lightweight revolvers and some differing ammunition.
Just a tip, you jerk bad on the trigger, try squeezing on it in stead of jerking on it.
nasonguy 2 years ago 14
I have a sw642, and I have never had a sore backstrap or drew blood on my thumb knuckle during range sessions with and I have the factory grips. Maybe a difference in hand shape/size, or the way you hold it. Personally, I hold it with a two finger grip with the gun a little higher on my hand. maybe you were shooting it with your hand too high on the backstrap, try dropping your hand a little lower. Either way, "to each his own", nice video, great idea showing the different ammo options,
mvr6t 2 years ago
Great video, to be honest I'd never really thought about the 442 until I saw this.
By the way, the whole point of this video is to show a comparison. Obviously he is saying that the third revolver is "uncomfortable/ hurting his hand" to present the point that the first 2 revolvers are superior in ergonomics and recoil. He wasnt try to say "dont buy this revolver because it will hurt your hand!"
So yeah, please stop commenting with badass story comparisons. It only makes you look worse.
thedarkknight117 2 years ago
thanks for the rational perspective on it
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Thanks.
Now watch me get bombarded with thumb downs, and a ton of hate comments. lol
thedarkknight117 2 years ago 6
LOL, true
GunWebsites 2 years ago
are you kidding? i've put at least 1000 rounds through my S&W 642 and about 100 of them were +P and if the recoil on those were hurting your hand i don't know what to tell you cause that's crazy, how does that hurt your hand lol
apman0000 2 years ago
Step up.. put your proof where your comments are ..
GunWebsites 2 years ago
The 158gr lead rounds are the most anemic loads ever produced. How can it be "uncomfortable", even in the 442 with the light cylinder and uncovered metal backstrap of the frame? I've shot full power 125gr .357 Mag in a Smith similar in size, weight and features with absolutely no big deal. You are either a weak shooter or a newbie. Judging by your terminology, I'd guess it's the latter.
GLK30 2 years ago
god job...what's the problem of the recoil for the .38 special???have a most lowest recoil!!
Littleboy0830 2 years ago
that is the point.. people think the .38 is a 'lightweight' round, so they buy these lightweight revolvers and then find out they can hurt to shoot
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Good review Thank
soodlorr 2 years ago
you are welcome
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I'm looking for a review of glock and styer m9. Do you have plan to do that soon?
soodlorr 2 years ago
hmm.. I think we might have a lead on Styer pistols.. I'll see what we can do
GunWebsites 2 years ago
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Im not bad ass, but i wasent raised around people that whine about 38 specials. the only reason i commented.
pleas stop being mean internet people you are making me sad, i better skip a day of work to go make videos to put on youtube so i feel better!
I was viewing this clip cause my father just picked up an lcr and i was curious about it so all with problems, please fuck off... Thank you.
o56kid 2 years ago
yer mom shoots the .454 and don't whine.. OK good point
Feel free to watch more 'tough' videos and quit coming around here then
GunWebsites 2 years ago
if only you tube had spell check eh kid!?
leave him alone guys he 'wasent' raise around winers, hehe, prob 13 years old...
j044 2 years ago
i want a ruger lcr
Rorona550 2 years ago
Me too.. the one with the laser..
GunWebsites 2 years ago
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go shoot a 454 casull out of a snub nose and quit whining about 38 specials...
o56kid 2 years ago
WTH??
go watch the video again and understand it is NOT a "hey look how much recoil we can take" production
Go slam your face against a concrete wall if you want to impress people with how tough you are.. I'll watch that video..maybe
GunWebsites 2 years ago
lol...love it
sidewinderam9m 2 years ago
yea o56KID u little bitch, these people arent makin this video to be badass like you are, you're the baddest motherfucker on the continent we all know.
deptofmisc 2 years ago
why is the 342 so shitty?
mrzack888 2 years ago
It's not shitty, it's light! (see info) Of course it has nastier recoil. But so what? If you're carrying it for personal defense you'll probably lug it around your whole life and never discharge it in anger - so light weight means more than light recoil. Only problem is getting off multiple shots accurately (if it comes to that - a .38 +P hits hard!)
ttcherrick 2 years ago
Great video. I have an LCP and am strongly considering a LCR. I think my brother is going to beat me to it though. Might get to shoot one before I buy one. :)
DasBulk 2 years ago
Good vid!
SirGlockALott 2 years ago
Thanks
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Great vid. I liked the comparison format. I have a S&W model 38 airweight. That little J frame sure can kick depending on the ammo. I've got a Blackhawk 45 convertable and it seems like it is as easy shooting the 45acp one handed as it is shooting the J frame two-handed.
The big, heavy Ruger absorbs more recoil than the little J frame so even though, the 45acp has more actual recoil on paper, the percieved recoil is less or about the same as shooting the Jframe with some 38 loads.
nextexhale 2 years ago
Good way to break it down, thanks
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I looked up it online and a 158 grain grain bullets going 790 fps in a .75 Lb gun loses to a 3.3 lb 44 mag ruger redhawk SS shooting a 300 grain bullet at 1350 fps.
bf3pwner 2 years ago
what do u mean loses
tacdriver22mk2 2 years ago
lost my bad
bf3pwner 2 years ago
Good Grief.. lol Consider this you people pretending to be he-men.. SOme of the greatest gun writers today describe what the call, shooters fatigue.. GOing out and shooting handguns fairly quickly within 30 minutes reguardless of caliber leading to fatigue.. It is a combination of Recoil, Noise, and the percussive properties of the soundwave.. For a good demonstration, soot a large fixed steel plate with a 38 from 10 feet and you can feel the percussive wave hit your chest.. Great Vid..
444bbla 2 years ago
and shooting 250 grains one handed kinda wins
bf3pwner 2 years ago
...waiting for your videos
Great thing about you tube is you can put your video where your talk is.. :P
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Ill Pm you when are sony gets back from the manufactor and when I get some more 300 grain bullets
bf3pwner 2 years ago
lol, you like shooting off with one hand.
at what point did these guys say anything about comparing different calibers.. hell, different frames?
Consider me to be in line for your "I am so leet, I pwn on a game that isn't even out by shooting teh w0rld5 biggest handgun" video.
By that logic, why not put some handloads through an .454 alaskan?
trogalicious 2 years ago
LOL
exactly
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Really no offense but a 38 special has literally no recoil compared to a 44 mag or a 45 acp
bf3pwner 2 years ago
No offense taken.
I don't think we ever mentioned other calibers..
and really, no offense, but..
I doubt you have ever fired thirty (30) rounds of .38 and .38+P from ultra light revolvers in less than 7 minutes..
(please post video if I am wrong)
and again no offense.. but
if you think .45acp is high recoil.. well
GunWebsites 2 years ago
No offense but a 44 mag with 300 grain handloads out of a ruger and shooting them frequently(batch of 100)every week kinda beats the 38.
bf3pwner 2 years ago
Great video. Thanks for your time and pain.
I think it would be very interesting to know how the LCR with the crimson trace laser grip compares to the 442 with the CT laser grip. Considering Ruger is supplying the gun with standard grip or CT grip, either option is available.
eyemd3 2 years ago
thanks
As soon as we can get an LCR with a laser that we can shoot / film.. we will !!
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Thank you for the educational video. Do you have a recommendation which of these, if any, for a woman considering recoil, handsize, etc.?
Thanks for any and all comments.
rigoletto68 2 years ago
Thanks for the great question!!
A big reason we did this video was to show that these little (lightweight) revolvers are great to hold and carry, but their recoil hurts..
The LCR really does have less recoil that my ultralight S&W and only weighs a few ounces more
So if the LCR is comfortable for you I'd recommend it
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Fir a woman, the LCR would be great.. You may also look into the new 327 Federal in the SP-101 Series revolvers from ruger.. They can shoot lighter recoiling 32 H&R Magnums with light to almost negligable recoil.. IF you can handle the 38, perfect.. Remember though it is more important to have a light recoiling gun you are confident in and know you can hit your target with.. Great to see a lady shooter on her.. Best of luck to you Ms.
444bbla 2 years ago
Thanks for taking the time to do this demo. I saw the LCR yesterday at Guns and Leather and it also had the laser in the grip. Nice size.
pianoboy37210 2 years ago 4
I checked the weights
LCR is 15 or 15.5 oz
S&W 442 15 oz
S&W 342 12 oz
surprised 3 oz gun weight would make that much more recoil. Must be the grip (as you say at the end of the vid).
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The grip made it that much more comfortable, interesting. I was surprised the KICK is that different between guns with same Ammo? Must be the 342's light weight, less to absorb recoil, plus basic grip. The lever rub didn't help. I had an older larger heavier 38 special. I had no issue shooting it (even with a hard grip). I have a .380 ACP semi-auto now, so I can't talk.
Do the soft grips grab on material making them harder to get out of a pocket?
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
This is a great test and a great video. You really sucked up the pain and finished!
I love the concept of Airweight/Airlight J-frames, but I'm convinced that .38 Special is too powerful a round, for me, out of these guns. Never mind +P. For carry guns, I practice one-handed shooting. The only snubby revolver I feel comfortable shooting in this way is the Ruger SP-101, so I traded in two J-frames I owned.
They were also misfiring, and their screws liked to back-out, so it was an easy choice.
AWFriday 2 years ago
great perspective, I'd have to agree with your choice
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Great Video... very helpful! I have been considering the LCR and the 442 for my first revolver. I have a LCP and I am an all around fan of ruger, but I am leaning towards the 442 for the reputation and asthetics.
mccalltx 2 years ago
Thanks, good to hear the video helped
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I got my LCR today great video by the way 5 stars! I was reading through the book and it didn't say what grain to shoot or does it not matter? The 340 is the best looking the 442 is one ugly barrel
motomissle 2 years ago
This was an outstanding video!
So would you say that you will be carrying the 442 over the lcr?
06xb9r 2 years ago
Thanks.. well we own the S&W.. the Ruger was just a loaner for the video. Neither of us plan to buy the Ruger to replace the S&W.. but If I didn't already own a lightweight S&W, I would buy the Ruger any day.. it's very comfortable to shoot
I'd like to take it out for an accuracy test, but it performed well for this test even though we didn't track the accuracy of our shots (limited time)
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I just purchased one yesterday. The lcr, to go with my lcp. Thanks...
06xb9r 2 years ago
Right on, let us know how you like it !!
GunWebsites 2 years ago
nice video, sorry about your short ammo problems, glad i went crazy in mid 08 with ammo buying.....
postal1911 2 years ago
Very informative and useful review, and I must applaud the attention given to detail.
Having fired a 342, 442-1, and 642-1, I can definitely appreciate the recoil involved in shooting an AirLite J-frame.
Amazing what a difference a few ounces can make!
I think it's rather ironic that these compact, lightweight revolvers are more difficult to shoot than larger, heavier handguns - yet at the same time, require much more training to obtain the same degree of proficiency.
Mutaween 2 years ago
I agree, so many people buy these thinking they will be EASIER to shoot..
GunWebsites 2 years ago
Great review. I wish more gun reviews were like this series.
taoalive 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the kind words, it's good to hear people like them.. makes it worth the effort to post them
GunWebsites 2 years ago