So many mistakes in this video it's hard to know where to start. The guy says "My Bible doesn't really explain that part" regarding Adam's descendants. But it does. It even gives their names and ages. She says Noah loaded "all of the animal species on the planet" onto the ark. No he didn't. Not species - kinds. And mainly land animals. About 16,000 total. Plenty of room. And no insects like she claims. Antibacterial resistance has nothing to do with evolution. So many more, there's no time.
@bestvalue So many mistakes in your post it's laughable. You claim that the 950 year old Noah didn't load the insects onto the ark? So where did the insects come from after the flood? Did god spare them when he wanted to cleanse the earth? People who believe this nonsense bible story have mental illness.
Also, do you understand that natural selection is the foundation for biology? People who reject evolution probably never studied the subject while they were home-schooled.
@Sweence Noah was 600 when the Flood started. Bugs can survive a flood just fine. Many survive on floating log mats. No one who rejects evolution rejects natural selection. Natural selection is a conservative process, not a creative one. It keeps a species strong or tends to drive it to extinction. Mutations are the mechanism by which natural selection gets the variation on which to act. But they cannot generate new information. Evolution is a theory without a mechanism.
@bestvalue It's strange debating a person who starts his rebuttal with "Noah was 600 when the flood started." as if to say that men actually lived to be 600 years old in a time before modern medicine. You may choose to take your world view from your mythological bible with its ridiculous, unverifiable stories, but you will always lose against reason and rationality.
@Sweence Don't change the subject. My point as that you have your facts wrong. Whether you believe it happened or not, you must contend with what the Bible actually says. You can't make up your own version and then pretend to refute it.
@bestvalue LOL! Please just stop and think about what you're saying. It's utter and pure nonsense that is backed up by nothing. You believe in things like Noah's ark because you want Christianity to work. If Genesis never said that there was global flood that covered the Earth in tens of thousands of feet of water you would be right next to me and @Sweence laughing when someone made that claim based on a a copy of a copy of a copy of an ancient book.
@titans091052 "If Genesis never said that there was global flood ... you would be right next to me and @Sweence laughing ..."
No I wouldn't because the scientific evidence for a global flood is overwhelming. Eg. the fossil record, clams on Mount Everest, the fact that the entire earth is covered in sedimentary rock laid down by water. If the Bible didn't claim a global flood, I would - unless I were an atheist trying to deny the existence of God to avoid eternal punishment.
Here's a world without religion. When born you are selected for a specific job. You are not to question why. You are not allowed any emotion. Once married, you are to have only one child. The state will take care of you. Then one day you discover a book called the bible. The next day the state kills you and your entire family. This is the world of the atheist. Can you image a world like that? I can, it's called North Korea. Maybe all you atheists should go live there.
@xtroxtro1 You're associating Atheism with the conditions of North Korea? You're actually saying that Atheism caused the situation in North Korea? Wow. You can't possibly be that stupid.
@Sweence Where do I say that atheism caused the situation in North Korea. I could have easily said Vietnam or China. I thought I wrote in English. ¡Probablemente, necesito escribir en español! Your atheistic world causes much suffering just like those religous leader during the "dark ages". Only now are China and Vietnam coming to the 21st century. But don't worry, religion is still frowned upon there where people are jailed, killed, or murdered. Sounds like the "dark ages" to me!
@xtroxtro1 Atheism never caused any human suffering. It's not a religion. You may equate the two because it serves your deluded religious agenda, but Atheists are the most charitable people on Earth.
@Sweence One example of a person who is greatly charitable is Mother Teresa. Now that is one person worth being considered most charitable, self-less even. One of the first people she helped when she arrived in India was a person dying and his body slowly being eaten by rats and continuing helping people for decades till the day she died. That is true dedication and love for others
@ca14mzik Toward the end, Mother Theresa actually questioned her faith in the biblical nonsense. Also, her charity was agenda driven. Secularists like George Clooney, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet do far more good for the world with their Billions of donated money to African causes. And they're not trying to sell a brand of religion to these poor folks.
@Sweence Atheism never caused any suffering? Please! The Dali Lama is to never return to China but only in a body bag. Religion is punishable in Vietnam by either death or jailing. Enver Hoxha ruled Albania with an iron fist and banned many religious traditions. Why don't you read your history. Your Marxist-Leninist leaders caused great suffering and still do. And yes, atheists are very charitable. At least they're good for one thing.
@xtroxtro1 Your examples have nothing to do with Atheism. The Leninist leaders may have been non-theists but that had nothing to do with their maniacal killing sprees. They also had mustaches but you wouldn't say that people who sport mustaches are killers. It's an erroneous association. Atheism is not a religion and is not organized into a club. We are individuals who reject religious nonsense. We're not interested in killing theists. We just want religion kept out of government.
@xtroxtro1 u cant blame atheism for that when it is not a moral code. They did that on their own accord. If a christian uses LEV 20:13 to justify killing gays(in Uganda) then we can blame both the bible and the person. Nonchristians have morals . Bible is full of immoral stuff like killing babies,killing gays,polygamy,incest(Abraham and his half sister),slavery ,rape,mass murder,and the list goes on . It is not us that is immoral . Christians can sin all they want cause Jesus payed the price.
@DarkBeauty1989 First of all, killing is a sin and so is homosexuality. Leviticus was written for the times. Man wrote it at a time when Moses led the Exodus back into Cannan. Inspiration of "man" and his interpretation led to some controversial issues that u atheists deem hateful. Why aren't u reading the new testament? You amazing atheists are fixated on the old testment and take every word literally. Why not scripture? Didn't Jesus say Matthew 5:39 and 5:43-44. Gotta go!!
@xtroxtro1 LOL Killing is NOT a sin hence why god had the jews kill people. Thou shall not MURDER. KIlling gays and unbelievers was not considered murder. God gave Moses the LAW OF MOSES. Why do you christians still quote from the OT? Jesus came to uphold the laws not destroy them. If Jesus is god ,he is the same evil babykiller we read about in the OT. A good tree can not bear bad fruit =bible is evil. Jesus said to stone your children to death if they dont obey you Matt15:4-7
@xtroxtro1 Just the fact that you would actually say something that intellectually void is proof enough of how limited your thinking process is. Go ahead believing in your book of bronze-age myths of talking snakes, virgin births, Noah's big, big, big, boat (chuckle) and your fire and brimstone sky-god I guess, but I can't help but feel so sorry for someone who has condemned themselves to go through life being an ignoramus. You apparently forgot to evolve like the rest of us, I guess.
@zideffil I will and still do believe in my book of lies and myths. My favorite is when Samson's hair was cut and he lost all his strength. How ludicrous is that? You go on with your souless and faithless life. A life without a God, one filled with gross immoralities, debauchery, without virtue, blah, blah, blah. You would make Fat Mike proud! If you should feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for yourself! I leave you amazing atheists with the last word. Peace...I'm out!
@xtroxtro1 I am beginning to wonder about your sanity. You say that you'll stick with your religion but then turn around and say the stories (Samson) are ludicrous. That makes no sense at all. Also, you don't even know me but say that my life is full of debauchery, gross immoralities, and vithout virtue? Do you not maybe see how ridiculous that makes you look? I would never say such things about someone I don't even know and, just for your info, I lead a very quiet and HONEST life.
@zideffil I was being sarcastic about Samson. Don't you know sarcasism when you read it. I just figured it out...your an idiot. This time amazing atheists, o' black and souless zombies without character and class, this time I promise (God willing), you have the last word!
A)Feed them lies, dogma, and junk science, and try to draw correlation between unrelated things and put moral decline down to not believing in something scientifically akin to the Pink Unicorn and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
@MrPlanx Doesnt the Roman historian Tacitus say Christ Was executed? So why is this video saying there are no Roman references to Jesus? Not All the complaints against the bible in this video are entirely wrong - but the reference to the Romans not mentioning Christ is seriously Wrong.
@yastunt - Tacitus mentions "Chrestians" in a single paragraph dealing with Nero in the first century AD, but does not mention Jesus Christ directly at any point.
@MrPlanx Doesnt he mention their leader Christus? He may have spelt it in the original as "Chrestus" - but that is possibly how the name was pronounced in his day. Whether the original says "Chrestus" or "Christus" - it's making a mountain out of a molehill to say this doesnt refer to Christ.
@yastunt he does but a little research will show that he was born 100 years after the so called event, so i wouldnt say they had a eye witness account.
Christian charlatans running around acting like they have the entire universe figured out when intuition and scientific discoveries you learn about in kindergarten say completely otherwise. Nothing pisses me off more, they get treated with respect and yet they are complete asshole retards.
@stevensw Wow! I just saw your comment and I must say, "I couldn't have said it as good." You nailed them on the head. They piss me off too, wanting their 'respect' when a pastor/minister/priest get paid for what they do whereas they should do it for the same price as J.C. and his disciples did (if it is true that he even existed). What a bunch of ignorant folks they are, not even agreeing with each other within the Christian religion, having hundreds of denominations, all being right.
@psyonicB What would the world look like without religion?? There would have been no "dark ages" which stifled intellectual progress for centuries. We would be far more advanced today than we already are, We probably would have colonized the colonize-able planets. It all started when the church told Galileo to shut up when he proclaimed that the Earth spins and rotates around our sun. Religion and superstition always poisons everything!
@Sweence You're blaming religion for poisoning everything? Well I cam tell you that the church Nd God are not the same. Men rule the church. Back in those days they possessed great power, power of the church. It was their list for power that got in the way of progress. Many, if not all of them were hypocrites. You are assuming way too much about world with no religion. Find a place with a high concentration of atheists and show me supreme progress. The lust for power ruins everything.
Denmark and Sweden are among the least religious nations in the world. They are first tier in rankings of nations by life expectancy, child welfare, literacy, schooling, economic equality, standard of living and competitiveness.
A sociologist named Phil Zuckerman spent 14 months in Scandinavia, talked to hundreds of Danes and Swedes about religion and reported that they lived in a society, a markedly irreligious society, that was, above all, moral, stable, humane, and deeply good
Depends on which religion you believe to be true. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, hinduism, buddhism, jainism, taoism, etc.
All these groups believe the other groups to be deluded, believe themselves to be the one true religion, have their own criteria for salvation, and have their own versions of hell, so the salvation rate would really depend on the religion. Coincidently, all these religions also have the same amount of evidence to prove that they're more true than the others. None
@ExRayBEx Well put! One of the best ways to get a religious freak thinking, is to state the FACT, that in every religion, they're able to provide "PROOF" that their religion is the only way. Just that alone makes me non-religious. I wouldn't consider myself an Atheist either. I believe in something more than me. After all, I have this body, and share this space with billions of people at a time! No matter how many die, people are still born! We're more than this world. Just can't say what it is.
Furthermore, If your an atheist then the salvation rate is the same as everywhere else. 0% because they believe the kind of salvation your thinking of is imaginary.
You asked for an example of a high concentration of atheists with progress and I provided.
I'm a Christian and I like how the atheist says Adam and Eve's children f***ked each other. We come from Adam and Eve. LOL @ atheists... We are all related, we are all cousins, we may come from different places, but we all have the same origin. No matter how far apart the relation is you are still like brothers and sisters. You are all human, and you all reproduce with eachother... eww
@Sweence I'm not looking at it from a christian POV. I'm looking at it from a child's POV. It is repulsive if you think about it. Think of gorillas or dogs doing it. Have you seen child birth? Have you seen people's disgusting genitals. Some things are disgusting, and they cannot be unseen. I'm not confused about it, I know what sex is. It's meant for, I know it's pleasurable for people, but it's gross if you think about it.
@psyonicB Terrific! We get to die twice when we reject Jesus as our personal savior. So, it's a double death of sorts. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
@Sweence God would not allow eternal suffering. He is merciful. I think you're being sarcastic to avoid my point. There is the body, then there is the soul. The soul is destroyed in hell. Jesus is our personal savior. Is it horridly wrong to believe such a thing? God cares, how is that wrong?
@psyonicB The imaginary character of Jesus is not my personal savior so I guess my "soul" will be destroyed in the imaginary hell. It amazes me how modern age people like you still cling to to biblical myths from the Bronze Age when people knew nothing. You do realize that your deluded right?
@Sweence I hope Jesus saves you, but once again, you have concluded that hell and Jesus are imaginary. Just to be clear, do you believe that any part of the bible is true? How can you say that I am deluded when you have no evidence to say so? You have no evidence to show that God is not real, and you cannot say I'm deluded.
@psyonicB No, I don't believe any part of the bible to be true. I have great evidence that you are deluded from your posts of foretelling our futures after we die. You were very specific on things that just aren't knowable. And I don't need evidence to show that your god is not real. The burden of proof rests with you making ridiculous claims not me. I would suggest that you bone-up on your debating skills lest you be crushed by the thinking people you encounter.
@Sweence The bible mentions Israel many times, so you don't believe in Aliyah. Are you telling me the whole bible is false? The Jews never went to Israel. Jesus is a historical figure, he did in fact live. Historians have proven this. Saying Jesus wasn't real is like saying Abraham Lincoln is a lie.
Since you claim that I'm deluded prove it. To be deluded means to believe in something something false. Since you cant prove God to be false, I am not deluded. Can you accept that God can exist?
@psyonicB There is NO historical record for Jesus outside of biblical scripture which was written 100 years after Jesus apparently lived. The bible is a work of fiction with real places such as Israel as settings. But Adam and Eve, talking animals, virgin births and resurrections are pure make-believe. It's difficult to validate any of these biblical claims when most people of the time were illiterate and knew nothing about the science of the world. And there is no evidence for a god either.
@Sweence if most of the people were illiterate, why did they make a bible. Also, does science really matter when saying Jesus walked In enter and rose from the dead? I'm sure this contradicts a lot of things. If the bible had no miracles, if it hadn't mentioned God would you still look at it like fiction? You'd have to be smart to read the bible and even smarter to write it. I'll get back to you with evidence. I myself haven't seen this evidence, but there are certain people who possess objects.
@psyonicB I don't know where to begin with your jumbled, incoherent reply... It's unclear who really authored (and revised over centuries) the mythological passages in your bible. Obviously there were a minority number of literate people of the time who were great plagiarizers and storytellers. Then the book (and Christianity) were forced on people through the centuries leading up to today. But there is NO evidence to support any of the bible myths. None!
The only reason anyone believes in Christianity is because they were conditioned to. If your parents told you when you were young that a purple fairy lizard created the universe and they had a whole book that said it was true, you would believe it. Now if you went to school and all the kids laughed at you, what are you going to do? PROVE IT WITH EVIDENCE! Or just continue to delude yourself it's true, forever...
Agnostic is more of what I am, Our minds couldnt comprehend a deity if it does in fact exist. There most likely are Type 0. Type 1. Type 2. and Type 3. civilizations in this place we call a multiverse. Michio Kaku's book mentions this
1.It is indeed true that romans have RARE(not no) record of jesus, but many other historical documents do from many other cultures that also kept consistent records. 2.The Bible does explain adam and eve, they were the first creation of humans,but not the only,and they had more children then cain and abel,we are all directly connected to them threough Noah.And before someone says something about inbreeding,no,because noah had six children who all brought there spouse
@Sweence I did not attempt to convince anybody of anything. I have always been on the fence about the scientific case for religion, and therefore have studied the Bible and a lot of cases against it. I merely wished to state that I have seen this argument before and have proven that ,if the bible is taken seriously in this case, it is not valid. I am Neutral in the Science VS. Religion debate.
@AustinBoyer Why be on the fence? Pick a side. You open yourself up to ridicule when you attempt to explain your bibe. Your old book belongs on a shelf next to Greek Mythology and has no basis in a discussion on the religion question.
@Sweence I also wanted you to know that the sarcasm I detected (If there is any, as I believe) is quite rude and makes me unable to take you,as well as your arguments, seriously. Seeing as this is the Internet,I suppose I should have suspected no less from someone who is suspectedly of a minor age.
@AustinBoyer Well you chastised another poster for being "rude". I would say that telling people like me we deserve to be tortured forever is rude in the extreme.
@lewisner I dont make the rules, take it up with God, unless you are a non-believer, in which case dont. Easy as that, and dont chastise me when ive done nothing wrong.
@AustinBoyer If you are a member of a religion which says I deserve to be tortured forever then you HAVE done something wrong. I wouldn't want to see you or anyone else tortured for a nanosecond.
@lewisner I believe in something, and im terrible. really if you are even remotely intersted in joining this religion its as simple as that. join it,dont go to hell, dont join it still dont go to hell because it doesnt exist(as you believe) EASY
@AustinBoyer eve was created from adam thats ultimate inbreeding. Then they bred thats sick. That explains why a retarded thing like religion has caught on
@AustinBoyer humans arent special u realise this the universe wasnt created for us and u cant denie the inbread thing it started with adam then eve was made out of a rib then a snake told him to eat a fruit then they fucked made a daughter a son they fucked and if you fuck your sister umm your kid comes out retarded/deformed you need at least 50 people to start a species the bible was made back when everyone believed that the earth was flat and didnt know about germs
@pur3k0 Read the Bible, within it there is no direct brother-sister/father-daughter inbreeding. The adam and eve thing isn't inbreeding just because they share ONE RIB, it doesn't state they shared any other similar genes, or even similar traits. Also, I hate text speak, so please don't argue back unless you type normal.
@AustinBoyer did u watch this vid prooves christianity makes no sense look at scientology and mormonism there even more ludacris the bible was made by sheep herders in 100 ad+ people who join religions are just scared of death so they will believe anything the bible says you can sell your kid into slavery and the all homosexuals will be put to death and go to hell
@Sweence Listen dumbass, the universe wasn't created by some creep with a beard just for us.... dipshit thinks we're the center of everything because he's selfish and stupid. Everyone laugh at him and beat the shit out of him.
@luv4knowledge The Atheism quote refers to modern-day people who think an imaginary man went "poof" and created the galaxy- or as the bible describes it "the heavens" -and all of this is for the amusement on the inhabitants of our tiny planet in our little corner of the universe. -And "universe" in biblical terms means all that sparkly stuff that rotates around our flat Earth.
@EmDeeEmEY Then you must've met a handful of people in your life. But seriously, bashing people based on religion is senseless and will achieve nothing. So please stop. If you want to talk to a Christian in a sensible debate, I'm listening..and so is shockofgod.
@jns124able That's for sure. There are so many "debaters" who are Christians who never read the Bible and there are 14yr olds who just switched to atheism and feel betrayed by a seemingly misleading book. Albeit, the last couple of my words can be considered opinionative.
@JediMaster08021 - I understand your concern that you don't want to become an atheist out of fear you would disappoint those close to you. Become a closet free-thinker! Throw off the chains of the ancient superstition, you will feel great relief. Just don't tell fellow Christians you have done so.
I favorited this video, they believe in a BOOK. I can make up a book and say that God helped me make it *not that anyone would believe me* but DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@stuffstuff000 Look at the Mormon religion and what Joseph Smith did. He created a cult following only over about 150 years ago and now that cult is a large religion. Start small and you will grow. All hail the all mighty stuffstuff000!!!!!
Technically, some of the things this "Jesus freak" says is not really how the usual debate goes.
Despite the debate, how else can we show how we got here? The Big Bang? I highly doubt that was possible. A bunch of random ass meteors hitting each other until the universe becomes like so. I don't think randomness could turn this into a stable, slightly perfect world. You don't think it's perfect? What if I hurl a bunch of pebbles into each other. Let's see what happens. Nothing.
@rexplosi0n So you're not? I thought a post of that ignorance HAD to be a troll. You lack any understanding of theories about how planets form. Do you know what gravity is? It pulls thing tward things. Over billions of years, your gonna have a lot of planets. Why wont it work on Earth? This should be obvious, but the pebbles you threw were bound to Earth's gravity, so they fall to the ground. In space, a larger pebble will attract small particles. Go back to school...
@TTDMFfreaknew Yet, where did you get those pebbles from? Out of your ass? Where did your ass come from?
You can't just make something from nothing. In fact, this knowledge is more obvious that gravitational particles and such. Go back to kindergarten, bro.
@rexplosi0n YES. YOU. CAN. Read a science book. It's an oxymoron to use that claim because, what created god? As long as gravity exists, something can, and will come from nothing.
@TTDMFfreaknew "something can, and will come from nothing." Then please end world hunger for us all. That statement undermines every scientific experiment so far involving chemical reactions, since they rely on the conservation of mass and energy law.
@MrRichard991 Im talking about the creation of the Universe. 98% of all matter that exists came with the Big Bang. I do not claim I can zap nothing to be something.
@MrRichard991 Im really not in the spirits to explain this to you in a youtube comment section... I would recomend the book "A Short History of Everything" by Bill Bryson, if you are so inclined.
@TTDMFfreaknew I can really understand that your not inclined to talk to me. If you have your reasons, then you have your reasons. However, I'm certainly not going to spend $20 to hear someone attempt to explain how matter came into existence.
@MrRichard991 Dust and Matter is what the universe is filled with. And we can SEE the universe. It simply collapsed upon itself and expanded outwards. Simple stuff. And that is 100 times more believable than a God who had no creator, and where nothing whipped up to form him. He just "always was there", a all-powerful entity, floating alone in the dark. Ridiculous. We KNOW dust and matter exist. Cant say the same for God. You guys have NO explanation for that nonsense.
@JabberCTIf you believe in your grade 10 history book, then you should believe this. Jesus existed. Why? Because of BCE and AD. Sure it was used years after His death, but it proves that there was a unique guy named Jesus.
"You guys have NO explanation for that nonsense. " Funny, how you guys have no explaination for your silly Big Bang Theory. Sure, it COULD have happened. But where did the energy come from? What triggered it? Can you all agree on a single theory with concrete evidence?
@MrRichard991 You must be kidding. The people who made the time scale believed in Christ, so that is proof he existed? LOL. Sorry but that doesnt cut it at all. Plus i never even mentioned Jesus. And i already gave you a explanation for the big bang. Just re-read my comment. Its in the first 3 sentences. Not sure how you missed it. So now that i explained my side, tell me how God came to be. What triggered him? Where is any evidence of anything supernatural?
@JabberCT We don't know where God came from...yet. When we die, we'll know. So what collapsed on itself, matter? If so, where did the matter come from? What caused the universe to collapse?
Furthermore, the fact that people Christian and non-Christian believed in Jesus proves that he's as real as Wynton Marsalis. If Christianity is BS, then why would the creator of Christianity ever want to create it?
There is absolutely no other example of an organization creating a religion for charity.
@MrRichard991 "What caused the universe to collapse?" Gravitational forces. The same ones that make our planet spin, and revolve around the sun. The same forces that cause comets to get sucked into big objects like jupiter and the sun. And once again, my original comment doesnt involve Jesus. Im asking about the big guy in the sky. Im answering your questions but you havent given me any explanation to anything i asked. So ill ask again. How did God come to be, from nothing?
@MrRichard991 "we will find out when we die." How convenient.
"what caused the universe to collapse?" Again.... gravitational forces.
"where did matter come from?" The matter factory. Youll find it when you die. I can play that game too. But the real answer is no one knows. So now ask yourself this. Out of nothing, is it more plausible that dust and matter formed which we can see, or a invisible powerful entity that can create worlds? Your sanity hangs in the answer.
@JabberCT "I can play that game too." This is no game. There is no evidence of a matter factory.
"Your sanity hangs in the answer" More like your opinion of me hangs in the answer.
How is it that the book of Job says that air has mass when we've only discovered this no more than 300 years ago? How is it that Corinthians says that every single star is unique when we confirmed this WAY past first century A.D.?
@lewisner I searched Yahoo answers and found my answer bit.ly /mJl566 Thanks anyways!
@MrRichard991 Oh stop trying to pretend the bible has actual science. Just because someone used the word "matter" or said a star is unique is not science. Measuring the stars luminosity, its distance from Earth, its life cycle, etc... THAT is science.
"There is no evidence of a matter factory." True. Or a creation factory. Or a God. Or anything supernatural.
@JabberCT Sorry, but LOL. "Oh stop trying to pretend the bible has actual science." I just proved to you it did, look in Job. Your ignorance to reason is astounding. The fact that they knew that each star is unique was not proven til recent times. The fact that they said that air has mass was not proven til 300yrs ago. The fact that they knew this before any other scientist proves that they were given this knowledge through God. Therefore, God exists and a good reason denying Him doesn't.
@MrRichard991 SAYING a star is unique, or anything else, is NOT science. Its an opinion by ancient desert tribesmen that doesnt mean shit. Your mind is lost to these ancient scribblings. Half the attempts at what you would call science in the bible was wrong, especially zoology. Bats are birds, insects have 4 legs, rabbits chew their cud. And then theres the flat Earth with angels on each corner. Your bible couldnt pass a 1st grade science test. Therefore, a ALL-KNOWING God, doesnt exist. Sorry.
@JabberCT LOL, Saying a star is unique is a proven fact. Are you denying this? I think so. Saying that air has mass centuries, even a millennia before it's proven is a fact. Are you denying this? I think so.
The earth is round and ants have six legs. People in the Bible know this as well. Are you denying this? I know so. Sorry, mate, but your ignorance to the facts and your thriving of manipulating words is astounding.
To sum up, we know that God exists. Its perfectly fine to admit being wrong.
@MrRichard991 Your comments are making less and less sense each time. Yes, i am denying that SAYING a star is unique is science. Absolutely. That is not science in any way. And why are you saying the people in the bible knew this stuff when it CLEARLY describes a flat Earth and insects having 4 legs? I suggest you read Leviticus 11. Because based on your last comment, you skipped right over it. Your God failed 1st grade zoology.
@JabberCT If you read Leviticus 11, you'd know that the text seems to say foul have 4 legs as well. The reference to foul is the same reference to owph, which is a creature that flies.
Now to the 4 legged ant thing. If you pick up an ant, it clearly has 6 legs. Now what person trying to control the masses include this? It's complete rubbish!
@JabberCT However, there are 4 legged flying things called locusts. A long time a go on the same planet, people didn't consider their two large hind legs as what we would call today as legs. For further info, see: bit.ly / bhx3jY
As we can see, we must read the Bible like a Shakespearian play; with the language of old. The refrence to a corner of the world is still used today. It means the corners on a compass, not an edge or vertice of a square.
@JabberCT "Because based on your last comment, you skipped right over it." Exactly what I was going to say! You skipped over the fact that the Bible says air has mass - at least 1700yrs before! That, my friend is divine inspiration. Remember, for atheism to be correct, it must prove that the Church hand picked the books to be included in the Bible. Why would they choose not to scratch out that sentence like atheists claim the RCT have done countless times before?
@MrRichard991 Sorry but the air mass line is in Job, not Leviticus. I didnt skip Job. Its a great little horror story. Dont bother trying to twist my words. It doesnt work on me. I was a Christian for 30 years and i know all the cop-out excuses. Now, instead of jumping around that book like a rabbit, answer why God thought his own creation chewed its cud when rabbits dont do this. The bottom line is, Lev11 proves that either your God is really dumb, or simply doesnt exist. Take your pick.
@JabberCT I never said the air mass line was in Job. Twisted your words? I love how you didn't say what words I manipulated from you, because I never did.
"God is really dumb, or simply doesnt exist." That's an absolutist talking.
I can easily say you're either dumb or retarded for ignoring the facts I presented to you (air=mass); you logic doesn't make sense.
I'm going to answer squat until you explain how a man knew that air had mass 1700yrs before being confirmed.
@MrRichard991 I didnt say you said the air mass line was in Job. I said to read Leviticus 11 and answer how God failed simple zoology. Instead, you skipped it and threw in your silly air mass line from Job 28-25, trying very hard to avoid answering. And the truth is, you cant answer it, or you would have. And Ill answer your air mass question anyways.
The guy who wrote it, had a 1st graders education. If you are impressed with that, then lets just say your education standards are mighty low.
@JabberCT "And the truth is, you cant answer it, or you would have." Dude, I've answered your question about the 4 legged ant thing. But clearly, you ignorance to evidence has been proven by avoiding my logical answer and calling it crap for no reason whatsoever.
You, sir, are the one not answering my questions. You are not answering my question about air mass. If atheism is true, then you should easily be able to answer this question along with these:
@MrRichard991 I just answered your silly air mass line. "Someone had a 1st graders education." You, however, did NOT answer my question on 4 legged insects. You said, "ants have six legs. People in the Bible know this..." NO. It clearly says 4 legs, not 6. If they knew they had 6 legs, then why did GOD say 4???
You know what? Forget answering. Youll just blab off something else useless and try to twist things around again. Go read your desert tales with its talking donkeys and snakes. Have fun.
@JabberCT Oh, your answer of yours, "Someone had a 1st graders education" What does that have to do with air mass? The Bible says that air has mass, period. There's no refuting it. Yet another proof of God's existence you ignore.
@MrRichard991 There isn't a single DATE given in the bible. Not for jesus' birth death or anything he supposedly did. No description either. Is your response to these problems "I don't care"?
I saw a religious video with Jesus on his knees, blowing Buddha and getting banged in the ass crapper by Allah!
lifeschild1 3 weeks ago
Adam and Steve were the first gay people on earth!
lifeschild1 3 weeks ago
That's true, The Beatles wrote the bible. John, Paul, George and Ringo!
lifeschild1 3 weeks ago
That was kind of cool at the end how whe NEOed him and ended his existence.
shabido1 1 month ago
So many mistakes in this video it's hard to know where to start. The guy says "My Bible doesn't really explain that part" regarding Adam's descendants. But it does. It even gives their names and ages. She says Noah loaded "all of the animal species on the planet" onto the ark. No he didn't. Not species - kinds. And mainly land animals. About 16,000 total. Plenty of room. And no insects like she claims. Antibacterial resistance has nothing to do with evolution. So many more, there's no time.
bestvalue 1 month ago
@bestvalue So many mistakes in your post it's laughable. You claim that the 950 year old Noah didn't load the insects onto the ark? So where did the insects come from after the flood? Did god spare them when he wanted to cleanse the earth? People who believe this nonsense bible story have mental illness.
Also, do you understand that natural selection is the foundation for biology? People who reject evolution probably never studied the subject while they were home-schooled.
Sweence 1 month ago
@Sweence Noah was 600 when the Flood started. Bugs can survive a flood just fine. Many survive on floating log mats. No one who rejects evolution rejects natural selection. Natural selection is a conservative process, not a creative one. It keeps a species strong or tends to drive it to extinction. Mutations are the mechanism by which natural selection gets the variation on which to act. But they cannot generate new information. Evolution is a theory without a mechanism.
bestvalue 1 month ago
@bestvalue It's strange debating a person who starts his rebuttal with "Noah was 600 when the flood started." as if to say that men actually lived to be 600 years old in a time before modern medicine. You may choose to take your world view from your mythological bible with its ridiculous, unverifiable stories, but you will always lose against reason and rationality.
Sweence 1 month ago
@Sweence Don't change the subject. My point as that you have your facts wrong. Whether you believe it happened or not, you must contend with what the Bible actually says. You can't make up your own version and then pretend to refute it.
bestvalue 4 weeks ago
@bestvalue You have to be mentally ill. Seriously, get some help for your delusions. I'm begging you.
Sweence 3 weeks ago
@bestvalue LOL! Please just stop and think about what you're saying. It's utter and pure nonsense that is backed up by nothing. You believe in things like Noah's ark because you want Christianity to work. If Genesis never said that there was global flood that covered the Earth in tens of thousands of feet of water you would be right next to me and @Sweence laughing when someone made that claim based on a a copy of a copy of a copy of an ancient book.
titans091052 1 month ago
@titans091052 "If Genesis never said that there was global flood ... you would be right next to me and @Sweence laughing ..."
No I wouldn't because the scientific evidence for a global flood is overwhelming. Eg. the fossil record, clams on Mount Everest, the fact that the entire earth is covered in sedimentary rock laid down by water. If the Bible didn't claim a global flood, I would - unless I were an atheist trying to deny the existence of God to avoid eternal punishment.
bestvalue 4 weeks ago
Here's a world without religion. When born you are selected for a specific job. You are not to question why. You are not allowed any emotion. Once married, you are to have only one child. The state will take care of you. Then one day you discover a book called the bible. The next day the state kills you and your entire family. This is the world of the atheist. Can you image a world like that? I can, it's called North Korea. Maybe all you atheists should go live there.
xtroxtro1 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 You're associating Atheism with the conditions of North Korea? You're actually saying that Atheism caused the situation in North Korea? Wow. You can't possibly be that stupid.
Sweence 1 month ago
@Sweence Where do I say that atheism caused the situation in North Korea. I could have easily said Vietnam or China. I thought I wrote in English. ¡Probablemente, necesito escribir en español! Your atheistic world causes much suffering just like those religous leader during the "dark ages". Only now are China and Vietnam coming to the 21st century. But don't worry, religion is still frowned upon there where people are jailed, killed, or murdered. Sounds like the "dark ages" to me!
xtroxtro1 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 Atheism never caused any human suffering. It's not a religion. You may equate the two because it serves your deluded religious agenda, but Atheists are the most charitable people on Earth.
Sweence 1 month ago
@Sweence One example of a person who is greatly charitable is Mother Teresa. Now that is one person worth being considered most charitable, self-less even. One of the first people she helped when she arrived in India was a person dying and his body slowly being eaten by rats and continuing helping people for decades till the day she died. That is true dedication and love for others
ca14mzik 1 month ago
@ca14mzik Toward the end, Mother Theresa actually questioned her faith in the biblical nonsense. Also, her charity was agenda driven. Secularists like George Clooney, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet do far more good for the world with their Billions of donated money to African causes. And they're not trying to sell a brand of religion to these poor folks.
Sweence 1 month ago
@Sweence Atheism never caused any suffering? Please! The Dali Lama is to never return to China but only in a body bag. Religion is punishable in Vietnam by either death or jailing. Enver Hoxha ruled Albania with an iron fist and banned many religious traditions. Why don't you read your history. Your Marxist-Leninist leaders caused great suffering and still do. And yes, atheists are very charitable. At least they're good for one thing.
xtroxtro1 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 Your examples have nothing to do with Atheism. The Leninist leaders may have been non-theists but that had nothing to do with their maniacal killing sprees. They also had mustaches but you wouldn't say that people who sport mustaches are killers. It's an erroneous association. Atheism is not a religion and is not organized into a club. We are individuals who reject religious nonsense. We're not interested in killing theists. We just want religion kept out of government.
Sweence 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 u cant blame atheism for that when it is not a moral code. They did that on their own accord. If a christian uses LEV 20:13 to justify killing gays(in Uganda) then we can blame both the bible and the person. Nonchristians have morals . Bible is full of immoral stuff like killing babies,killing gays,polygamy,incest(Abraham and his half sister),slavery ,rape,mass murder,and the list goes on . It is not us that is immoral . Christians can sin all they want cause Jesus payed the price.
DarkBeauty1989 1 week ago
@DarkBeauty1989 First of all, killing is a sin and so is homosexuality. Leviticus was written for the times. Man wrote it at a time when Moses led the Exodus back into Cannan. Inspiration of "man" and his interpretation led to some controversial issues that u atheists deem hateful. Why aren't u reading the new testament? You amazing atheists are fixated on the old testment and take every word literally. Why not scripture? Didn't Jesus say Matthew 5:39 and 5:43-44. Gotta go!!
xtroxtro1 6 days ago
@xtroxtro1 LOL Killing is NOT a sin hence why god had the jews kill people. Thou shall not MURDER. KIlling gays and unbelievers was not considered murder. God gave Moses the LAW OF MOSES. Why do you christians still quote from the OT? Jesus came to uphold the laws not destroy them. If Jesus is god ,he is the same evil babykiller we read about in the OT. A good tree can not bear bad fruit =bible is evil. Jesus said to stone your children to death if they dont obey you Matt15:4-7
DarkBeauty1989 6 days ago
@xtroxtro1 If we went to North Korea, we would easily improve the conditions there and make it the most advanced country on Earth.
XxI3ioHazardxX 1 month ago
@XxI3ioHazardxX That's true!
xtroxtro1 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 Just the fact that you would actually say something that intellectually void is proof enough of how limited your thinking process is. Go ahead believing in your book of bronze-age myths of talking snakes, virgin births, Noah's big, big, big, boat (chuckle) and your fire and brimstone sky-god I guess, but I can't help but feel so sorry for someone who has condemned themselves to go through life being an ignoramus. You apparently forgot to evolve like the rest of us, I guess.
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil I will and still do believe in my book of lies and myths. My favorite is when Samson's hair was cut and he lost all his strength. How ludicrous is that? You go on with your souless and faithless life. A life without a God, one filled with gross immoralities, debauchery, without virtue, blah, blah, blah. You would make Fat Mike proud! If you should feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for yourself! I leave you amazing atheists with the last word. Peace...I'm out!
xtroxtro1 1 month ago
@xtroxtro1 I am beginning to wonder about your sanity. You say that you'll stick with your religion but then turn around and say the stories (Samson) are ludicrous. That makes no sense at all. Also, you don't even know me but say that my life is full of debauchery, gross immoralities, and vithout virtue? Do you not maybe see how ridiculous that makes you look? I would never say such things about someone I don't even know and, just for your info, I lead a very quiet and HONEST life.
zideffil 1 month ago
@zideffil I was being sarcastic about Samson. Don't you know sarcasism when you read it. I just figured it out...your an idiot. This time amazing atheists, o' black and souless zombies without character and class, this time I promise (God willing), you have the last word!
xtroxtro1 4 weeks ago
@xtroxtro1 I just figured it out - you're an idiot.
zideffil 4 weeks ago
very interesting thanks
simysimss 1 month ago
i enjoyed this vid
shellybirdy 1 month ago
very interesting video thanks
simysimss 1 month ago
Very enjoyable thank you
jessyjessy4 1 month ago
LMAO. "You can fucking blow me."?? //walks into him?? xD
Swotsy 1 month ago
Q)Want to annoy an atheist?
A)Feed them lies, dogma, and junk science, and try to draw correlation between unrelated things and put moral decline down to not believing in something scientifically akin to the Pink Unicorn and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Q) Want to annoy a Christian?
A) Tell them facts.
rainerfilm 2 months ago
The last time I checked, it said in the bible that the earth is flat.
JuliusIsMe 3 months ago
Since the religious idiot was standing in the street, you should have had a car come along and run him over. LOL
MrPlanx 4 months ago
@MrPlanx Doesnt the Roman historian Tacitus say Christ Was executed? So why is this video saying there are no Roman references to Jesus? Not All the complaints against the bible in this video are entirely wrong - but the reference to the Romans not mentioning Christ is seriously Wrong.
yastunt 4 months ago
@yastunt - Tacitus mentions "Chrestians" in a single paragraph dealing with Nero in the first century AD, but does not mention Jesus Christ directly at any point.
MrPlanx 4 months ago
@MrPlanx Doesnt he mention their leader Christus? He may have spelt it in the original as "Chrestus" - but that is possibly how the name was pronounced in his day. Whether the original says "Chrestus" or "Christus" - it's making a mountain out of a molehill to say this doesnt refer to Christ.
yastunt 4 months ago
@yastunt lol
Sephlock 3 months ago
@yastunt he does but a little research will show that he was born 100 years after the so called event, so i wouldnt say they had a eye witness account.
loudman12 3 months ago
Ringo!!! LOL!
matthelion 4 months ago
Christian charlatans running around acting like they have the entire universe figured out when intuition and scientific discoveries you learn about in kindergarten say completely otherwise. Nothing pisses me off more, they get treated with respect and yet they are complete asshole retards.
stevensw 5 months ago 8
@stevensw Wow! I just saw your comment and I must say, "I couldn't have said it as good." You nailed them on the head. They piss me off too, wanting their 'respect' when a pastor/minister/priest get paid for what they do whereas they should do it for the same price as J.C. and his disciples did (if it is true that he even existed). What a bunch of ignorant folks they are, not even agreeing with each other within the Christian religion, having hundreds of denominations, all being right.
zideffil 4 weeks ago
Holy shit it's Arby 'n' the Chief!
ironmaidenisgood 5 months ago
"I don't care"
Spaghettimonster777 5 months ago 3
The fanatic dude looks more respectable than the slutty non believer!
bastermaboy 5 months ago
@bastermaboy and that, my dear child, is called prejudice.
PervAccount 5 months ago
imagine no religion? why dont you tell me how you think the world would look without religion?
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB What would the world look like without religion?? There would have been no "dark ages" which stifled intellectual progress for centuries. We would be far more advanced today than we already are, We probably would have colonized the colonize-able planets. It all started when the church told Galileo to shut up when he proclaimed that the Earth spins and rotates around our sun. Religion and superstition always poisons everything!
Sweence 6 months ago 25
@Sweence You're blaming religion for poisoning everything? Well I cam tell you that the church Nd God are not the same. Men rule the church. Back in those days they possessed great power, power of the church. It was their list for power that got in the way of progress. Many, if not all of them were hypocrites. You are assuming way too much about world with no religion. Find a place with a high concentration of atheists and show me supreme progress. The lust for power ruins everything.
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB
Denmark and Sweden are among the least religious nations in the world. They are first tier in rankings of nations by life expectancy, child welfare, literacy, schooling, economic equality, standard of living and competitiveness.
A sociologist named Phil Zuckerman spent 14 months in Scandinavia, talked to hundreds of Danes and Swedes about religion and reported that they lived in a society, a markedly irreligious society, that was, above all, moral, stable, humane, and deeply good
ExRayBEx 4 months ago
@ExRayBEx whats their salvation rate?
psyonicB 4 months ago
@psyonicB
Depends on which religion you believe to be true. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, hinduism, buddhism, jainism, taoism, etc.
All these groups believe the other groups to be deluded, believe themselves to be the one true religion, have their own criteria for salvation, and have their own versions of hell, so the salvation rate would really depend on the religion. Coincidently, all these religions also have the same amount of evidence to prove that they're more true than the others. None
ExRayBEx 4 months ago
@ExRayBEx Well put! One of the best ways to get a religious freak thinking, is to state the FACT, that in every religion, they're able to provide "PROOF" that their religion is the only way. Just that alone makes me non-religious. I wouldn't consider myself an Atheist either. I believe in something more than me. After all, I have this body, and share this space with billions of people at a time! No matter how many die, people are still born! We're more than this world. Just can't say what it is.
YOURFAET 4 months ago
@psyonicB
Furthermore, If your an atheist then the salvation rate is the same as everywhere else. 0% because they believe the kind of salvation your thinking of is imaginary.
You asked for an example of a high concentration of atheists with progress and I provided.
ExRayBEx 4 months ago
@psyonicB ARE YOU SERIOUS? THE ANSWER IS AMAZING! THE WORLD WILL BE AMAZING WITHOUT RELIGION! DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
rainerfilm 2 months ago
@psyonicB the world will look awesome without religion...make humand stronger...keep natural selection but not extreme like hitler.
Steve82798 2 months ago
Edit to previous post. Jesus walked on water* I'm using my Android
psyonicB 6 months ago
I'm a Christian and I like how the atheist says Adam and Eve's children f***ked each other. We come from Adam and Eve. LOL @ atheists... We are all related, we are all cousins, we may come from different places, but we all have the same origin. No matter how far apart the relation is you are still like brothers and sisters. You are all human, and you all reproduce with eachother... eww
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB Sounds like you reject the Adam & Eve myth and are endorsing evolution. Are you sure you're a xtian?
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence No, I dont reject it. I was merely pointing out how 'gross' all sex is. "Stinkin 'monkeys' foolin around" pardon the expression.
Whether it's between our own distant cousins or our cousins, it's still what it is.
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB Sex is Gross??? Wow, you are one messed-up christian...
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence I'm not looking at it from a christian POV. I'm looking at it from a child's POV. It is repulsive if you think about it. Think of gorillas or dogs doing it. Have you seen child birth? Have you seen people's disgusting genitals. Some things are disgusting, and they cannot be unseen. I'm not confused about it, I know what sex is. It's meant for, I know it's pleasurable for people, but it's gross if you think about it.
psyonicB 6 months ago
BTW, you don't suffer in hell for eternity, you are punished and put to death, the second death. You will cease to exist.
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB Terrific! We get to die twice when we reject Jesus as our personal savior. So, it's a double death of sorts. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence God would not allow eternal suffering. He is merciful. I think you're being sarcastic to avoid my point. There is the body, then there is the soul. The soul is destroyed in hell. Jesus is our personal savior. Is it horridly wrong to believe such a thing? God cares, how is that wrong?
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB The imaginary character of Jesus is not my personal savior so I guess my "soul" will be destroyed in the imaginary hell. It amazes me how modern age people like you still cling to to biblical myths from the Bronze Age when people knew nothing. You do realize that your deluded right?
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence I hope Jesus saves you, but once again, you have concluded that hell and Jesus are imaginary. Just to be clear, do you believe that any part of the bible is true? How can you say that I am deluded when you have no evidence to say so? You have no evidence to show that God is not real, and you cannot say I'm deluded.
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB No, I don't believe any part of the bible to be true. I have great evidence that you are deluded from your posts of foretelling our futures after we die. You were very specific on things that just aren't knowable. And I don't need evidence to show that your god is not real. The burden of proof rests with you making ridiculous claims not me. I would suggest that you bone-up on your debating skills lest you be crushed by the thinking people you encounter.
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence The bible mentions Israel many times, so you don't believe in Aliyah. Are you telling me the whole bible is false? The Jews never went to Israel. Jesus is a historical figure, he did in fact live. Historians have proven this. Saying Jesus wasn't real is like saying Abraham Lincoln is a lie.
Since you claim that I'm deluded prove it. To be deluded means to believe in something something false. Since you cant prove God to be false, I am not deluded. Can you accept that God can exist?
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB There is NO historical record for Jesus outside of biblical scripture which was written 100 years after Jesus apparently lived. The bible is a work of fiction with real places such as Israel as settings. But Adam and Eve, talking animals, virgin births and resurrections are pure make-believe. It's difficult to validate any of these biblical claims when most people of the time were illiterate and knew nothing about the science of the world. And there is no evidence for a god either.
Sweence 6 months ago
@Sweence if most of the people were illiterate, why did they make a bible. Also, does science really matter when saying Jesus walked In enter and rose from the dead? I'm sure this contradicts a lot of things. If the bible had no miracles, if it hadn't mentioned God would you still look at it like fiction? You'd have to be smart to read the bible and even smarter to write it. I'll get back to you with evidence. I myself haven't seen this evidence, but there are certain people who possess objects.
psyonicB 6 months ago
@psyonicB I don't know where to begin with your jumbled, incoherent reply... It's unclear who really authored (and revised over centuries) the mythological passages in your bible. Obviously there were a minority number of literate people of the time who were great plagiarizers and storytellers. Then the book (and Christianity) were forced on people through the centuries leading up to today. But there is NO evidence to support any of the bible myths. None!
Sweence 6 months ago
this shows how stupid Christianity is
TheApacheHawk013 6 months ago
@TheApacheHawk013 Yes, you are completely right.
freandwhickquest 6 months ago
Jesus is not God. God is Jesus' Father.
AdyMiles 6 months ago
@AdyMiles Thanks for clearing that up.
Sweence 6 months ago 2
@AdyMiles that's what Jehovah's witnesses think
psyonicB 6 months ago
The only reason anyone believes in Christianity is because they were conditioned to. If your parents told you when you were young that a purple fairy lizard created the universe and they had a whole book that said it was true, you would believe it. Now if you went to school and all the kids laughed at you, what are you going to do? PROVE IT WITH EVIDENCE! Or just continue to delude yourself it's true, forever...
MannyXj1 6 months ago
Atheists for the win. we're smarter
AntmILoveYou 6 months ago
2:06 : Actually 600 year old man. He just managed to concieve at 500. lol
QuestionRenee 6 months ago
Agnostic is more of what I am, Our minds couldnt comprehend a deity if it does in fact exist. There most likely are Type 0. Type 1. Type 2. and Type 3. civilizations in this place we call a multiverse. Michio Kaku's book mentions this
headies100 7 months ago
Repent that statement!
This is gold.
HellRehab 7 months ago
Im durzio the amazing and I approve this message
DURZIOtheAMAZING 7 months ago
1.It is indeed true that romans have RARE(not no) record of jesus, but many other historical documents do from many other cultures that also kept consistent records. 2.The Bible does explain adam and eve, they were the first creation of humans,but not the only,and they had more children then cain and abel,we are all directly connected to them threough Noah.And before someone says something about inbreeding,no,because noah had six children who all brought there spouse
AustinBoyer 7 months ago
and also their spous's families,according to the bible.
AustinBoyer 7 months ago
@AustinBoyer Adam & Eve? Noah? I guess that explains it then. You sure convinced me.
Sweence 7 months ago
@Sweence I did not attempt to convince anybody of anything. I have always been on the fence about the scientific case for religion, and therefore have studied the Bible and a lot of cases against it. I merely wished to state that I have seen this argument before and have proven that ,if the bible is taken seriously in this case, it is not valid. I am Neutral in the Science VS. Religion debate.
AustinBoyer 7 months ago
@AustinBoyer Why be on the fence? Pick a side. You open yourself up to ridicule when you attempt to explain your bibe. Your old book belongs on a shelf next to Greek Mythology and has no basis in a discussion on the religion question.
Sweence 7 months ago 6
@Sweence I also wanted you to know that the sarcasm I detected (If there is any, as I believe) is quite rude and makes me unable to take you,as well as your arguments, seriously. Seeing as this is the Internet,I suppose I should have suspected no less from someone who is suspectedly of a minor age.
With all due respect and no offense intended
AustinBoyer 7 months ago
@AustinBoyer Do you believe that hell exists?
lewisner 7 months ago
@lewisner I suppose, why do you ask?
AustinBoyer 7 months ago
@AustinBoyer Do you think, because I am an atheist I will go to hell?
lewisner 7 months ago
@lewisner probably, that's what this religion states
AustinBoyer 6 months ago
@AustinBoyer Well you chastised another poster for being "rude". I would say that telling people like me we deserve to be tortured forever is rude in the extreme.
lewisner 6 months ago
@lewisner I dont make the rules, take it up with God, unless you are a non-believer, in which case dont. Easy as that, and dont chastise me when ive done nothing wrong.
AustinBoyer 6 months ago
@AustinBoyer If you are a member of a religion which says I deserve to be tortured forever then you HAVE done something wrong. I wouldn't want to see you or anyone else tortured for a nanosecond.
lewisner 6 months ago
@lewisner I believe in something, and im terrible. really if you are even remotely intersted in joining this religion its as simple as that. join it,dont go to hell, dont join it still dont go to hell because it doesnt exist(as you believe) EASY
AustinBoyer 6 months ago
@AustinBoyer eve was created from adam thats ultimate inbreeding. Then they bred thats sick. That explains why a retarded thing like religion has caught on
sllimthg 7 months ago
@AustinBoyer LOL
Jayjon81 6 months ago
@AustinBoyer humans arent special u realise this the universe wasnt created for us and u cant denie the inbread thing it started with adam then eve was made out of a rib then a snake told him to eat a fruit then they fucked made a daughter a son they fucked and if you fuck your sister umm your kid comes out retarded/deformed you need at least 50 people to start a species the bible was made back when everyone believed that the earth was flat and didnt know about germs
pur3k0 6 months ago
@pur3k0 Read the Bible, within it there is no direct brother-sister/father-daughter inbreeding. The adam and eve thing isn't inbreeding just because they share ONE RIB, it doesn't state they shared any other similar genes, or even similar traits. Also, I hate text speak, so please don't argue back unless you type normal.
AustinBoyer 6 months ago
@AustinBoyer did u watch this vid prooves christianity makes no sense look at scientology and mormonism there even more ludacris the bible was made by sheep herders in 100 ad+ people who join religions are just scared of death so they will believe anything the bible says you can sell your kid into slavery and the all homosexuals will be put to death and go to hell
pur3k0 6 months ago
Was it symbolic that at the end they both 'merged' with each other?
McSuperfly101 8 months ago
anyone else laugh like a little kid when the robot voice said "douchebag" because it sounded funny...btw this video is soo true :)
callofdutygod1234567 8 months ago
Ringo. :)
JustSpeculating 8 months ago
Love this film, I love you for posting this film, i'm so glad someone finally knows what morons the religious are.
kesla15 8 months ago 3
he should get hit by a car at the end
darcangelo89 8 months ago
I love how she walks inside him at the end.
EvilPanda969 8 months ago
ATHEISM- The arrogant belief that the entire billion-galaxy universe was not created for us.
Sweence 8 months ago 16
@Sweence : RELIGON - The stupid belief of lies and lies to make us feel good.
QuestionRenee 6 months ago
@Sweence Listen dumbass, the universe wasn't created by some creep with a beard just for us.... dipshit thinks we're the center of everything because he's selfish and stupid. Everyone laugh at him and beat the shit out of him.
AQWorldsTheFabled 6 months ago
@Sweence where in the bible is the word galaxy written?
luv4knowledge 6 months ago
@luv4knowledge The Atheism quote refers to modern-day people who think an imaginary man went "poof" and created the galaxy- or as the bible describes it "the heavens" -and all of this is for the amusement on the inhabitants of our tiny planet in our little corner of the universe. -And "universe" in biblical terms means all that sparkly stuff that rotates around our flat Earth.
Sweence 6 months ago
@EmDeeEmEY Then you must've met a handful of people in your life. But seriously, bashing people based on religion is senseless and will achieve nothing. So please stop. If you want to talk to a Christian in a sensible debate, I'm listening..and so is shockofgod.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 I would enjoy a sensible debate...they are extremely hard to find in these forums...
jns124able 8 months ago
@jns124able That's for sure. There are so many "debaters" who are Christians who never read the Bible and there are 14yr olds who just switched to atheism and feel betrayed by a seemingly misleading book. Albeit, the last couple of my words can be considered opinionative.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
I thought she was going to say "and I'll think for you." at the very end...
But "FUCKIN' BLOW ME IS EVEN BETTER!"
freakystyley4000 9 months ago
@JediMaster08021 - I understand your concern that you don't want to become an atheist out of fear you would disappoint those close to you. Become a closet free-thinker! Throw off the chains of the ancient superstition, you will feel great relief. Just don't tell fellow Christians you have done so.
libomann 9 months ago
No knowledge about China? What about the churches in the new testament?
Amashkitotamoes 9 months ago
I don't care :|
crazytosh1 9 months ago
"i dont care" rofl
UnseenAtheist 9 months ago
I favorited this video, they believe in a BOOK. I can make up a book and say that God helped me make it *not that anyone would believe me* but DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stuffstuff000 9 months ago
@stuffstuff000 Look at the Mormon religion and what Joseph Smith did. He created a cult following only over about 150 years ago and now that cult is a large religion. Start small and you will grow. All hail the all mighty stuffstuff000!!!!!
Chaoitcme 9 months ago
@Chaoitcme Holy shi- XD
stuffstuff000 9 months ago
Technically, some of the things this "Jesus freak" says is not really how the usual debate goes.
Despite the debate, how else can we show how we got here? The Big Bang? I highly doubt that was possible. A bunch of random ass meteors hitting each other until the universe becomes like so. I don't think randomness could turn this into a stable, slightly perfect world. You don't think it's perfect? What if I hurl a bunch of pebbles into each other. Let's see what happens. Nothing.
rexplosi0n 9 months ago
@rexplosi0n *TROLL ALERT*
TTDMFfreaknew 9 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew Haha, It's funny how you go straight to calling me a troll.
rexplosi0n 9 months ago
@rexplosi0n So you're not? I thought a post of that ignorance HAD to be a troll. You lack any understanding of theories about how planets form. Do you know what gravity is? It pulls thing tward things. Over billions of years, your gonna have a lot of planets. Why wont it work on Earth? This should be obvious, but the pebbles you threw were bound to Earth's gravity, so they fall to the ground. In space, a larger pebble will attract small particles. Go back to school...
TTDMFfreaknew 9 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew Yet, where did you get those pebbles from? Out of your ass? Where did your ass come from?
You can't just make something from nothing. In fact, this knowledge is more obvious that gravitational particles and such. Go back to kindergarten, bro.
rexplosi0n 9 months ago
@rexplosi0n YES. YOU. CAN. Read a science book. It's an oxymoron to use that claim because, what created god? As long as gravity exists, something can, and will come from nothing.
TTDMFfreaknew 9 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew "something can, and will come from nothing." Then please end world hunger for us all. That statement undermines every scientific experiment so far involving chemical reactions, since they rely on the conservation of mass and energy law.
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 Im talking about the creation of the Universe. 98% of all matter that exists came with the Big Bang. I do not claim I can zap nothing to be something.
TTDMFfreaknew 9 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew And where did the energy and matter of the Big Bang come from?
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 Im really not in the spirits to explain this to you in a youtube comment section... I would recomend the book "A Short History of Everything" by Bill Bryson, if you are so inclined.
TTDMFfreaknew 9 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew I can really understand that your not inclined to talk to me. If you have your reasons, then you have your reasons. However, I'm certainly not going to spend $20 to hear someone attempt to explain how matter came into existence.
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 Dust and Matter is what the universe is filled with. And we can SEE the universe. It simply collapsed upon itself and expanded outwards. Simple stuff. And that is 100 times more believable than a God who had no creator, and where nothing whipped up to form him. He just "always was there", a all-powerful entity, floating alone in the dark. Ridiculous. We KNOW dust and matter exist. Cant say the same for God. You guys have NO explanation for that nonsense.
JabberCT 9 months ago 3
@JabberCTIf you believe in your grade 10 history book, then you should believe this. Jesus existed. Why? Because of BCE and AD. Sure it was used years after His death, but it proves that there was a unique guy named Jesus.
"You guys have NO explanation for that nonsense. " Funny, how you guys have no explaination for your silly Big Bang Theory. Sure, it COULD have happened. But where did the energy come from? What triggered it? Can you all agree on a single theory with concrete evidence?
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 You must be kidding. The people who made the time scale believed in Christ, so that is proof he existed? LOL. Sorry but that doesnt cut it at all. Plus i never even mentioned Jesus. And i already gave you a explanation for the big bang. Just re-read my comment. Its in the first 3 sentences. Not sure how you missed it. So now that i explained my side, tell me how God came to be. What triggered him? Where is any evidence of anything supernatural?
JabberCT 9 months ago 2
@JabberCT We don't know where God came from...yet. When we die, we'll know. So what collapsed on itself, matter? If so, where did the matter come from? What caused the universe to collapse?
Furthermore, the fact that people Christian and non-Christian believed in Jesus proves that he's as real as Wynton Marsalis. If Christianity is BS, then why would the creator of Christianity ever want to create it?
There is absolutely no other example of an organization creating a religion for charity.
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 "What caused the universe to collapse?" Gravitational forces. The same ones that make our planet spin, and revolve around the sun. The same forces that cause comets to get sucked into big objects like jupiter and the sun. And once again, my original comment doesnt involve Jesus. Im asking about the big guy in the sky. Im answering your questions but you havent given me any explanation to anything i asked. So ill ask again. How did God come to be, from nothing?
JabberCT 9 months ago 11
@JabberCT I've already answered your question: we will find out when we die.
You, however, have not answered my more significant questions such as:
where did matter come from?
what caused the universe to collapse?
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 "we will find out when we die." How convenient.
"what caused the universe to collapse?" Again.... gravitational forces.
"where did matter come from?" The matter factory. Youll find it when you die. I can play that game too. But the real answer is no one knows. So now ask yourself this. Out of nothing, is it more plausible that dust and matter formed which we can see, or a invisible powerful entity that can create worlds? Your sanity hangs in the answer.
JabberCT 9 months ago
@JabberCT "I can play that game too." This is no game. There is no evidence of a matter factory.
"Your sanity hangs in the answer" More like your opinion of me hangs in the answer.
How is it that the book of Job says that air has mass when we've only discovered this no more than 300 years ago? How is it that Corinthians says that every single star is unique when we confirmed this WAY past first century A.D.?
@lewisner I searched Yahoo answers and found my answer bit.ly /mJl566 Thanks anyways!
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 Oh stop trying to pretend the bible has actual science. Just because someone used the word "matter" or said a star is unique is not science. Measuring the stars luminosity, its distance from Earth, its life cycle, etc... THAT is science.
"There is no evidence of a matter factory." True. Or a creation factory. Or a God. Or anything supernatural.
JabberCT 9 months ago 2
@JabberCT Sorry, but LOL. "Oh stop trying to pretend the bible has actual science." I just proved to you it did, look in Job. Your ignorance to reason is astounding. The fact that they knew that each star is unique was not proven til recent times. The fact that they said that air has mass was not proven til 300yrs ago. The fact that they knew this before any other scientist proves that they were given this knowledge through God. Therefore, God exists and a good reason denying Him doesn't.
MrRichard991 9 months ago
@MrRichard991 SAYING a star is unique, or anything else, is NOT science. Its an opinion by ancient desert tribesmen that doesnt mean shit. Your mind is lost to these ancient scribblings. Half the attempts at what you would call science in the bible was wrong, especially zoology. Bats are birds, insects have 4 legs, rabbits chew their cud. And then theres the flat Earth with angels on each corner. Your bible couldnt pass a 1st grade science test. Therefore, a ALL-KNOWING God, doesnt exist. Sorry.
JabberCT 9 months ago 2
@JabberCT LOL, Saying a star is unique is a proven fact. Are you denying this? I think so. Saying that air has mass centuries, even a millennia before it's proven is a fact. Are you denying this? I think so.
The earth is round and ants have six legs. People in the Bible know this as well. Are you denying this? I know so. Sorry, mate, but your ignorance to the facts and your thriving of manipulating words is astounding.
To sum up, we know that God exists. Its perfectly fine to admit being wrong.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 Your comments are making less and less sense each time. Yes, i am denying that SAYING a star is unique is science. Absolutely. That is not science in any way. And why are you saying the people in the bible knew this stuff when it CLEARLY describes a flat Earth and insects having 4 legs? I suggest you read Leviticus 11. Because based on your last comment, you skipped right over it. Your God failed 1st grade zoology.
JabberCT 8 months ago
@JabberCT If you read Leviticus 11, you'd know that the text seems to say foul have 4 legs as well. The reference to foul is the same reference to owph, which is a creature that flies.
Now to the 4 legged ant thing. If you pick up an ant, it clearly has 6 legs. Now what person trying to control the masses include this? It's complete rubbish!
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@JabberCT However, there are 4 legged flying things called locusts. A long time a go on the same planet, people didn't consider their two large hind legs as what we would call today as legs. For further info, see: bit.ly / bhx3jY
As we can see, we must read the Bible like a Shakespearian play; with the language of old. The refrence to a corner of the world is still used today. It means the corners on a compass, not an edge or vertice of a square.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@JabberCT "Because based on your last comment, you skipped right over it." Exactly what I was going to say! You skipped over the fact that the Bible says air has mass - at least 1700yrs before! That, my friend is divine inspiration. Remember, for atheism to be correct, it must prove that the Church hand picked the books to be included in the Bible. Why would they choose not to scratch out that sentence like atheists claim the RCT have done countless times before?
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 Sorry but the air mass line is in Job, not Leviticus. I didnt skip Job. Its a great little horror story. Dont bother trying to twist my words. It doesnt work on me. I was a Christian for 30 years and i know all the cop-out excuses. Now, instead of jumping around that book like a rabbit, answer why God thought his own creation chewed its cud when rabbits dont do this. The bottom line is, Lev11 proves that either your God is really dumb, or simply doesnt exist. Take your pick.
JabberCT 8 months ago
@JabberCT I never said the air mass line was in Job. Twisted your words? I love how you didn't say what words I manipulated from you, because I never did.
"God is really dumb, or simply doesnt exist." That's an absolutist talking.
I can easily say you're either dumb or retarded for ignoring the facts I presented to you (air=mass); you logic doesn't make sense.
I'm going to answer squat until you explain how a man knew that air had mass 1700yrs before being confirmed.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 I didnt say you said the air mass line was in Job. I said to read Leviticus 11 and answer how God failed simple zoology. Instead, you skipped it and threw in your silly air mass line from Job 28-25, trying very hard to avoid answering. And the truth is, you cant answer it, or you would have. And Ill answer your air mass question anyways.
The guy who wrote it, had a 1st graders education. If you are impressed with that, then lets just say your education standards are mighty low.
JabberCT 8 months ago
@JabberCT "And the truth is, you cant answer it, or you would have." Dude, I've answered your question about the 4 legged ant thing. But clearly, you ignorance to evidence has been proven by avoiding my logical answer and calling it crap for no reason whatsoever.
You, sir, are the one not answering my questions. You are not answering my question about air mass. If atheism is true, then you should easily be able to answer this question along with these:
bit. ly / mvFGRc
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 I just answered your silly air mass line. "Someone had a 1st graders education." You, however, did NOT answer my question on 4 legged insects. You said, "ants have six legs. People in the Bible know this..." NO. It clearly says 4 legs, not 6. If they knew they had 6 legs, then why did GOD say 4???
You know what? Forget answering. Youll just blab off something else useless and try to twist things around again. Go read your desert tales with its talking donkeys and snakes. Have fun.
JabberCT 8 months ago
@JabberCT Quit digging yourself a grave. You foolishly say not to answer your question because you don't want to be proven wrong.
I'll gladly prove you wrong when you're ready to listen...
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@JabberCT Oh, your answer of yours, "Someone had a 1st graders education" What does that have to do with air mass? The Bible says that air has mass, period. There's no refuting it. Yet another proof of God's existence you ignore.
MrRichard991 8 months ago
@MrRichard991 There isn't a single DATE given in the bible. Not for jesus' birth death or anything he supposedly did. No description either. Is your response to these problems "I don't care"?
lewisner 9 months ago
@lewisner "I don't care" That's clearly the answer you're giving me to my questions.
MrRichard991 9 months ago