Picture is going To look better on dvd than Laserdisc .But the quality of soung On laserdisc is better In my opinion . When you compare the sound quality from dvd and laserdisc , Laserdisc will blow it away in that retrospeck . I dont think they did very good mastering for dvd for sound and knew it too .
My best LaserDisc player, a high-end industrial model, the Pioneer LD-V8000, can run rings around DVDs. It has a very good (the best) video frame buffer, so even CLV discs have a rock steady freeze-frame.
When Watcher3223 fixed mine, he told me that it has the fastest frame search. It can go from the very first frame on a side to the very last one - in 1 second flat! I tested in with several discs - 1 sec. every time!
@Fakk28 but the Pioneer models were ten times better than the sony models! and not to mention when DiscoVision came out all the Philips players could not play the titles right, but when Pioneer started making the players for DiscoVision, the titles played on all of them!
I hate to say this, but this video really didn't prove anything. Laser disc movies started right up because, for the most part, there weren't any kind of menu screens at the beginning like you would get with DVDs. So, in that regard, yes... LD for the win. But, it is by far not a fair comparison.
Nice video. I was wondering what movies came out on CAV. Also what movies would you recommend getting and what models of LD players. Does the 1070 auto switch sides from A to B. Have a nice day.
@Ixeon659 Since it's analog it is bound to have some noise. But it's the sharpest analog format you'd ever see, and you'd be blown away at it's quality.
@jjovereats LaserDisc is most certainly NOT digital in the video department. It's Composite Analog. Do some research please before making a statement like that.
wow, its too bad LD never took off, i say the same for beta and d-vhs. BUT the only issues i see with it is "lazer rot" but id like to know what experiance you have with that. Also, A lot of DVDs suffer from sound compression (yes, I'm a sound whore) which is why blu-ray and LD seem like better media to me
@3y3raven I do actually have experience with laser rot. I have the Jetsons on LD, and side two is rotting out.. Audio clicks and pops, and video has flickering dots.. It's the ONLY disc with this problem..
@3y3raven LD never achieved mass market status, but as a consumer format it had a 20+ year run, not too shabby. IMO DVD is better in SOME ways but over-rated compared to LD. The thing that annoyed me was that as soon as DVD was out, certain magazines like Sound&Vision were seriously dissing LD--yeah, really objective guys, just jump on whatever's new and hip (and what your advertisers want you to sell). BTW yeah, the sound quality is more important than most people seem to realize.
I like your setup! It looks similar to what I am working to put together (but I also plan to get a ßetamax deck along with VHS, Laserdisc, DVD and BluRay)
i ACTUALLY LOVED MY LASERDISC PLAYER! But I was a kid when we had one, I have no idea what happened to it after my parents divorced., I kinda still wish that I had it. The only down side was that they had to be turned over half way through
@tibbydriver I only chose it as a demo because it's the only DVD I have that simply goes to the menu, rather than playing preview after preview, to give DVD the benefit.
@tomrule123 In terms of video resolution, no, CLV and CAV are equivalent. BUT, after the first 3 minutes, CAV has much lower video noise than CLV and because the vertical interval is aligned from track to track on a CAV disc, crosstalk due to laser mis-alignment or disc warpage is NEVER visible, which often leads to a much 'cleaner' and 'quieter' image on the CAV disc.
The fact that DVDs have previews is not a disadvantage of the format. Previews are a marketing decision. VHS had previews starting in the mid-90s but DVD didn't start having previews (other than the occasional promo) until a few years into it's life.
Had laserdiscs become a mass format, I guarantee that the studios would have started inserting previews.
Also what generations of players are you using? It's not fair to compare load times on mature LD players against 1st or 2nd gen DVD players.
Actually, a laserdisc was very limited in how much it could 'store'. This is why in some laserdisc movies, credits are cut short or scenes are removed from the films. Adding previews would cut into this time meaning even less storage for the movie. If laserdiscs had taken off, previews would not have been added for this very reason.
No, it scans quite better than DVDs did, loaded faster, no previews whatsoever, better sound quality due to higher DTS bitrate and an uncompressed CD audio digital track (where DVDs are always compressed audio).
Only thing about LD was the analog video format, but even then, it was actually very good, above broadcast quality.
The CLD-1010 was also the first laserdisc player capable of playing the then-new CD Video format of discs.Although its high price and the general worldwide disinterest in Laserdisc kept the player from becoming a major success, it is today often lauded by those who continue to enjoy the now defunct LD format. Its advanced noise-reduction circuitry and red-diode laser help provide a very appealing picture.
I have the Pioneer CLD 1010 in my home theatre system. A classic LD player and one of a kind before Pioneer move to its new "elete" series LD players.
Introduced in 1987. The CLD1010 featured a new red-diode laser which had a significantly positive impact on playback quality. The red-diode laser has a narrower wavelength than is normal for LD players, In addition, the red coloring of the laser made it easier for the system to read-over disc surface imperfections like scratches, fingerprints, dust or laser-rot. It is one of only two players manufactured by Pioneer to ever use a red-diode laser.
i have never seen a laser disc in real life but it seens to be a intresting format and i guess laser disc was a beter format becose often ld players was beter build then most of todays dvd players
I got that same edition A Few Good Men on NTSC as well as on region 2 DVD. My ole Pioneer CLD-1750 is getting a little jaded now it needs occasional cleaning to keep it running.
I like CAV mode over DVD not sure if blu-ray is any better still not even remotely interested in blu-ray not even if one fell of the back of lorry. Now then!
I have a fascination with old school technology. I am curious as to your exact LD model. They say unlike DVD, the quality of your LD player makes all the difference. You never go cheap.
WRT the sound, only an audiophile would likely notice the difference.
As a videophile, I'd say the laserdisc doesn't look as good (DVD). Being a predecessor, I highly admire LD for what it brought a VHS dominated culture.
What do you need LD for? Watching movies or search for chapters, scanning the disc? I think discs are meant to watch the movie. DVD IS BETTER than LD in all aspects. What's more, Blu-Ray came, and LD died finally. You already may sale your LD collection, it's out of time.
Yeh, I bought a LD player a few years ago and loved the sound quality on the movies. It was totally totally superior to dvd on all the 80s stuff I bought. That is what struck me most. My tv is pretty bad old thing so couldnt speak on picture ( looked as good as dvd- that was it). Cheers for the video
yeah but you can´t deny that some Laserdisc´s kicks dvd´s ass!..laserdisc´s from 1993-to end was really good ..THX versions ruled!..and on dvd the movies was depended on who was releasing them...if it was from warner,universal, and so on famous company´s the quality usually was really good...but remember a company named scanbox that was releasing movies..and the quality sucked Hell!.still laserdisc made me feel more special thank god i had the cld2950
I got full-motion (as 50 or 60 fields/s) at 4x (4x faster than real time) DVD on my pc (only) :D but I got 25 or 30 fps at 8x. :) :P
I used winodws media player for windows vista (this OS is better). :)
I love too monitor crt 21" (samsung 1100DF :D) and OLED (new technology but not release yet (monitor for computer) until 2010) :D but I don't love lcd because all lcd's have still motion blur and angle view limited problems.
wow, the whole lazer disc revolution passed me by. i had no idea there was something in between vcr and dvd. Why was it not more popular? ive never even heard of it
But there was nothing wrong with the model in this example. You said it's a bad example, but it was a good example, which makes what you said, VERY untrue.
Just because you prefer higher end stuff and are more rich than others, isn't a fair comparison. Compare cheap LD to cheap DVD vs High End LD to High End DVD.. Apples to oranges...
That was the nice thing about LaserDisc, it would directly jump to the movie, DVD id that when it first came out but then they started going straight to the main menu.
LDs can use their size to their advantage by putting cool things like program books, posters and lithographs in their box sets. Hard to stuff all of those goodies in a DVD case.
I totally agree with you about the content with the size advantage.
I was always dissapointed with the fact that many DVDs fail to include special features from LaserDiscs. This happened with The Lion King CAV Set, most of the special features from that LaserDisc set failed to make it to the DVD.
My friend has the CLD-V870 and I tested the fast-forward and the rewind function on the CLV discs, it doesent lose as much sync as this player when its FF on CLV discs, my friend doesen't have any CAV discs
While DVD is BETTER, you have to remember Laserdisc was 1978. And it has the same idea, just not perfect. Laserdisc was revolutionary for it's time. Would you compare an NES to a Wii?
I'm in defense of LD. Yeah, that was a bad analogy, but it was 12 AM and I was tired. Laserdisc was too bulky and big. The players took up too much room. DVD has taken the idea of LD and made it easier for the common man to accept it. Cheaper ways to make it, smaller, all that the people want
Believe it or not, but DVD was capable of comparable or superior audio: you could use an uncompressed PCM track utilizing a wider wordlength and a higher sampling rate than CD or LD PCM. However, most, if not all, DVD releases resorted to using Dolby Digital, even for stereo or mono, so the DVD PCM contention is academic since it was never really used to an appreciable degree.
For digital surround, DVD has better Dolby Digital, LD has better DTS. Both are better in Dolby Digital to 35mm film.
I should have clarified; I was talking in regard to bitrates.
For AC-3, DVD was capable of supporting a higher maximum bitrate than LaserDisc. Both LaserDisc AC-3 and DVD AC-3 had a higher maximum bitrate than AC-3 on 35MM film.
How well each outlet for AC-3 was employed by the studios, on the other hand, can vary widely in quality.
CAV was often used for special edition box sets of movies, very common for the popular Disney boxsets. The Star Wars Trilogy Definitive Collection contained 9 CAV LaserDiscs.
I remember that very well cause almost ever 22 minutes I was getting up to flip the side or change the disc.
You should try a Super VHS tape vs. LaserDisc comparison. There actually were some movies commerically released on S-VHS tape in the late '80s and early '90s. They do show up on eBay from time to time.
I recently picked up a JVC S-VHS VCR for $10. The neat thing is that it can play regular VHS tapes through its S-Video output, so you maybe get slightly better quality than a regular VHS VCR playing through its composite output.
S-VHS had a significant boost in frequency of the luminance carrier, which means a sharper picture than regular VHS. But, the chrominance was still the same under-modulated carrier that was used in VHS.
The real advantage of S-VHS was that its video was Y/C separated while LaserDisc video was composited, hence if you use the s-video connection, S-VHS may edge out LaserDisc except with higher end LD players or, if you use the composite connection, a high end TV.
Regarding s-video, or separated video, since S-VHS, and VHS for that matter, are natively Y/C separate, using the s-video connection bypasses a step in the video processing: comb filtering.
With LaserDisc, as the video is natively composite (color and greyscale elements are combined as one), if you use s-video, the player has to deal with separating the Y/C elements while with a composite connection you are tasking the TV with that job.
hell yea, The Offspring
deepcovergecko 1 month ago
Picture is going To look better on dvd than Laserdisc .But the quality of soung On laserdisc is better In my opinion . When you compare the sound quality from dvd and laserdisc , Laserdisc will blow it away in that retrospeck . I dont think they did very good mastering for dvd for sound and knew it too .
ducklandwikeno 1 month ago
nice equipment, what kind of LD player is that
KevinPatrickCarey 2 months ago
The LD covers were the best.....loved the gatefolds!
But disc wise DVDs look waaaaaaaaaaaaay better....I hated to admit it when they came out!
debgibsonfan 5 months ago
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debgibsonfan 5 months ago
My best LaserDisc player, a high-end industrial model, the Pioneer LD-V8000, can run rings around DVDs. It has a very good (the best) video frame buffer, so even CLV discs have a rock steady freeze-frame.
When Watcher3223 fixed mine, he told me that it has the fastest frame search. It can go from the very first frame on a side to the very last one - in 1 second flat! I tested in with several discs - 1 sec. every time!
STAY AWESOME! :)
cessnaace 8 months ago
@Fakk28 but the Pioneer models were ten times better than the sony models! and not to mention when DiscoVision came out all the Philips players could not play the titles right, but when Pioneer started making the players for DiscoVision, the titles played on all of them!
daltex81 9 months ago
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but i don't see the whole point of all video formats
to have a quality war but all video formats are equaly
unique and holds thier own to me i'm happy with both
laserdisc and dvd because i have both included philips cd-i
playstation umd and blu ray and i love them all .
FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 9 months ago
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FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 9 months ago
I hate to say this, but this video really didn't prove anything. Laser disc movies started right up because, for the most part, there weren't any kind of menu screens at the beginning like you would get with DVDs. So, in that regard, yes... LD for the win. But, it is by far not a fair comparison.
TravisGoss2011 11 months ago
@TravisGoss2011 It wasn't intended to be a perfect video.
But it's not just the menu, it has to do that an LD has no file system, is not digital, and can just find the first track and start going right away.
hakemon 11 months ago 2
@TravisGoss2011
agreed laserdisc players go right into the main feature not like a dvd where
it takes forever to load up to the main menu i'd say laserdisc kicked butt
what a big mistake that companies did away with laserdiscs which it has a huge advantage
that laserdisc players still plays discs when they got scratched or fingure printed so you
can still watch them without skipping not like dvd once scratched it wont play anymore
so laserdisc is supreme.
FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 9 months ago
Also at a:45, the aspect ratio needs to be fixed
rivest266 8 months ago
Also at 1:45, the aspect ratio needs to be fixed
rivest266 8 months ago
5:15 Apple Logo. That is a win.
FreudRulz 1 year ago
that was a terribly executed comparison.
colouredbills 1 year ago
I'd say IMHO, DVD won.
snes64dsi 1 year ago
DVD killed the LaserDisk.
AcePilot2009 1 year ago
Nice video. I was wondering what movies came out on CAV. Also what movies would you recommend getting and what models of LD players. Does the 1070 auto switch sides from A to B. Have a nice day.
ATARI800XLfan 1 year ago
Are those technics speakers?
raymondleeleggs 1 year ago
@raymondleeleggs No. Pioneer.
hakemon 1 year ago
What about quality of movie on LD? Does it have any noises like on VHS?
Ixeon659 1 year ago
@Ixeon659 Since it's analog it is bound to have some noise. But it's the sharpest analog format you'd ever see, and you'd be blown away at it's quality.
hakemon 1 year ago 2
@hakemon LD is DIGITAL. NUTTY LDLOPP
jjovereats 11 months ago
@jjovereats LaserDisc is most certainly NOT digital in the video department. It's Composite Analog. Do some research please before making a statement like that.
hakemon 11 months ago
wow, its too bad LD never took off, i say the same for beta and d-vhs. BUT the only issues i see with it is "lazer rot" but id like to know what experiance you have with that. Also, A lot of DVDs suffer from sound compression (yes, I'm a sound whore) which is why blu-ray and LD seem like better media to me
3y3raven 1 year ago
@3y3raven I do actually have experience with laser rot. I have the Jetsons on LD, and side two is rotting out.. Audio clicks and pops, and video has flickering dots.. It's the ONLY disc with this problem..
hakemon 1 year ago
@3y3raven LD never achieved mass market status, but as a consumer format it had a 20+ year run, not too shabby. IMO DVD is better in SOME ways but over-rated compared to LD. The thing that annoyed me was that as soon as DVD was out, certain magazines like Sound&Vision were seriously dissing LD--yeah, really objective guys, just jump on whatever's new and hip (and what your advertisers want you to sell). BTW yeah, the sound quality is more important than most people seem to realize.
hldx9 1 year ago
I like your setup! It looks similar to what I am working to put together (but I also plan to get a ßetamax deck along with VHS, Laserdisc, DVD and BluRay)
fixman88 1 year ago
"...if I had the remote"
you and me both, brother.
JMein13074 1 year ago
i ACTUALLY LOVED MY LASERDISC PLAYER! But I was a kid when we had one, I have no idea what happened to it after my parents divorced., I kinda still wish that I had it. The only down side was that they had to be turned over half way through
trvrlyn 1 year ago
@trvrlyn My LD player doesn't need to flip, it does it for me.
hakemon 1 year ago
Your laserdisc player is a Pioneer 1070 ?
mmichaelc 1 year ago
i already stoped using LDplayer which was pretty good~!
i didnt know that laser disc players can do the digital sutitle,~ because what i had are karaoke video~ i really like
WTHUDOIN 1 year ago
@WTHUDOIN LaserDisc doesn't have digital subtitles. My TV just has Closed Caption enabled usually, which CC is sent in the analog video stream.
hakemon 1 year ago
I had used Laser Discs at College, and they had many many small scratches on them from heavy use. They still worked perfectly every time I used them.
I doubt a DVD would have been so useful with similar use.
liquid49286 1 year ago
@liquid49286
yes the reason why you acidently get a scratch or an thumb print on
them and still plays without jumping because every ld players have an intense
laser beam that detects the data stored on the disc and bypassess the damaged
structure of the disc and still plays the disc in picture quality and sound without
playback delay not like dvd where once damaged you cant play it anymore iso thats
why laserdisc still playes them.
FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 9 months ago
SMASH and Laserdisc? I think my heart just stopped
flcl4evr 1 year ago
Laserdisc is analogue that probably were the difference is at.
shechshire 1 year ago
Your TV loses for playing a shit movie like Encino man on it
tibbydriver 1 year ago
@tibbydriver I only chose it as a demo because it's the only DVD I have that simply goes to the menu, rather than playing preview after preview, to give DVD the benefit.
hakemon 1 year ago
Does CAV have better Video Quality than CLV?
tomrule123 1 year ago
@tomrule123 In terms of video resolution, no, CLV and CAV are equivalent. BUT, after the first 3 minutes, CAV has much lower video noise than CLV and because the vertical interval is aligned from track to track on a CAV disc, crosstalk due to laser mis-alignment or disc warpage is NEVER visible, which often leads to a much 'cleaner' and 'quieter' image on the CAV disc.
lovemylogics 1 year ago
Video quality is the same.
AGrandt 1 year ago
My favorite movie is Aliens.
togarbage 1 year ago
The fact that DVDs have previews is not a disadvantage of the format. Previews are a marketing decision. VHS had previews starting in the mid-90s but DVD didn't start having previews (other than the occasional promo) until a few years into it's life.
Had laserdiscs become a mass format, I guarantee that the studios would have started inserting previews.
Also what generations of players are you using? It's not fair to compare load times on mature LD players against 1st or 2nd gen DVD players.
Loodirros 2 years ago
Actually, a laserdisc was very limited in how much it could 'store'. This is why in some laserdisc movies, credits are cut short or scenes are removed from the films. Adding previews would cut into this time meaning even less storage for the movie. If laserdiscs had taken off, previews would not have been added for this very reason.
Ripspawnguild 1 year ago
wow laser disc really did suck...
bigzebes 2 years ago
No, it scans quite better than DVDs did, loaded faster, no previews whatsoever, better sound quality due to higher DTS bitrate and an uncompressed CD audio digital track (where DVDs are always compressed audio).
Only thing about LD was the analog video format, but even then, it was actually very good, above broadcast quality.
hakemon 2 years ago 2
True. Its like comparing a Cinema quality to the real resolution and quality of the studio camera used (Like RedOne)
silverhawkroman 2 years ago
@silverhawkroman
yes because it plays the original cinematic recording and
preserves it to every crisp picture and sound just like you
here and see it at the cinema not like dvd where it comprised
by digital rendering but with laserdisc you can even watch a show
like the x-files in it's original recorded detail likewise with films
like ben hur and ghostbusters as they originaly recorded at the cinema .
FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 9 months ago
@bigzebes hey dumb fuck with out laserdisc, you would not have CD, DVD and BluRay!
daltex81 1 year ago
@daltex81 hahaha, I was joking, chill.
bigzebes 1 year ago
You forget VCD's from Philips which had great great interactivity when read on CDi.
fan2linux 2 years ago
Tried "Just wide" mode for the letterbox correction?
retroman51 2 years ago
No because the mode I used is the proper one, no need to try any other mode... PS, my TV don't have "Just wide"..
hakemon 2 years ago
The CLD-1010 was also the first laserdisc player capable of playing the then-new CD Video format of discs.Although its high price and the general worldwide disinterest in Laserdisc kept the player from becoming a major success, it is today often lauded by those who continue to enjoy the now defunct LD format. Its advanced noise-reduction circuitry and red-diode laser help provide a very appealing picture.
sting64az 2 years ago
You don't need to post the whole wikipedia entry. Please, there's a reason Youtube limits comment lengths.
hakemon 2 years ago
I have the Pioneer CLD 1010 in my home theatre system. A classic LD player and one of a kind before Pioneer move to its new "elete" series LD players.
sting64az 2 years ago
Introduced in 1987. The CLD1010 featured a new red-diode laser which had a significantly positive impact on playback quality. The red-diode laser has a narrower wavelength than is normal for LD players, In addition, the red coloring of the laser made it easier for the system to read-over disc surface imperfections like scratches, fingerprints, dust or laser-rot. It is one of only two players manufactured by Pioneer to ever use a red-diode laser.
sting64az 2 years ago
lol, I remember my freshman science teacher had one of these, those discs were gigantic, but it was above average quality
havinthangs55 2 years ago
i have never seen a laser disc in real life but it seens to be a intresting format and i guess laser disc was a beter format becose often ld players was beter build then most of todays dvd players
agfamatic91 2 years ago
I got that same edition A Few Good Men on NTSC as well as on region 2 DVD. My ole Pioneer CLD-1750 is getting a little jaded now it needs occasional cleaning to keep it running.
I like CAV mode over DVD not sure if blu-ray is any better still not even remotely interested in blu-ray not even if one fell of the back of lorry. Now then!
EmpireLS56KW 2 years ago
As much as I like LaserDisc, bluray is good..
It even has the same PCM audio format, but better than the LD version..
hakemon 2 years ago
I have a fascination with old school technology. I am curious as to your exact LD model. They say unlike DVD, the quality of your LD player makes all the difference. You never go cheap.
WRT the sound, only an audiophile would likely notice the difference.
As a videophile, I'd say the laserdisc doesn't look as good (DVD). Being a predecessor, I highly admire LD for what it brought a VHS dominated culture.
s9lngbord 2 years ago
It's amazing how the Laserdisc could ffwd and rwd like a VHS player and the DVD or Blu-ray don't.
I think that the Laserdisc had a better technology than DVD in my opinion, just like the CD.
sinning1966 2 years ago
@sinning1966 dude blu-ray and dvd can rewind and fast forward just like vhs and laserdisc could!
daltex81 9 months ago
What kind of LaserDisc Player are you using.
Riddler95 2 years ago
What do you need LD for? Watching movies or search for chapters, scanning the disc? I think discs are meant to watch the movie. DVD IS BETTER than LD in all aspects. What's more, Blu-Ray came, and LD died finally. You already may sale your LD collection, it's out of time.
Vladislaw81 2 years ago
Audio on an LD is better than a DVD in most cases.
Are you this same grumpy old guy who can't stop harassing vintage video equipment collectors? Block!
hakemon 2 years ago
Yeh, I bought a LD player a few years ago and loved the sound quality on the movies. It was totally totally superior to dvd on all the 80s stuff I bought. That is what struck me most. My tv is pretty bad old thing so couldnt speak on picture ( looked as good as dvd- that was it). Cheers for the video
neil27a 2 years ago
True, in interest of HD, Blu Ray is the new king, but It isn't as sexy as a big ol' Laser disc.
mikeb1444 2 years ago
I have a Laserdisc that looks better than a blu-ray. My Evil Dead 2 LD looks sharper and less grainy than my blu-ray disc.
scarmulletpart2 2 years ago
is it the red LD? if so, the transfer on that disc is miles ahead of the anchor bay DVD of ED2 that i have..
over18 2 years ago
laser disc of course!! the graphic and sound is much better than dvd. they stop using it just because the price.
lubangga 2 years ago
Yeah, only because it's an analog system :-), which differs to the fully-digital system of a DVD.
sinning1966 2 years ago
dvd win cause u can get one for 29.99
koopsta850 2 years ago
Price doesn't justify quality and performance. Make the decision on quality and performance.
Fact is, video wins on DVD, audio wins on LD, but ability to seek, LD wins too.
hakemon 2 years ago
yeah but you can´t deny that some Laserdisc´s kicks dvd´s ass!..laserdisc´s from 1993-to end was really good ..THX versions ruled!..and on dvd the movies was depended on who was releasing them...if it was from warner,universal, and so on famous company´s the quality usually was really good...but remember a company named scanbox that was releasing movies..and the quality sucked Hell!.still laserdisc made me feel more special thank god i had the cld2950
with double side play.
Shulai1 2 years ago
Man makes me wish I had LD player. It really looks awesome. Thanks for the video.
Doomfrost 2 years ago
what is the meaning of lossless i dont understand that.
crazyinlovesergio28 2 years ago
Exactly as it sounds. No loss of quality.
hakemon 2 years ago
How does the LD look on your HD-TV?
scarmullet 2 years ago
Looks ok. Relies on a good scaler though, just like DVD.
hakemon 2 years ago
What kind of DVD player are you using ?
Riddler95 2 years ago
oh! sorry. ;) I got full-motion (133fps lol but 200fps at 4x) at 8x and 25 or 30 fps at 16x dvd but running hard drive.
I have GeForce 9800gt 1GB. :)
ricarnuninho80 2 years ago
I got full-motion (as 50 or 60 fields/s) at 4x (4x faster than real time) DVD on my pc (only) :D but I got 25 or 30 fps at 8x. :) :P
I used winodws media player for windows vista (this OS is better). :)
I love too monitor crt 21" (samsung 1100DF :D) and OLED (new technology but not release yet (monitor for computer) until 2010) :D but I don't love lcd because all lcd's have still motion blur and angle view limited problems.
ricarnuninho80 2 years ago
COOL
morgangamer22 2 years ago
wow, the whole lazer disc revolution passed me by. i had no idea there was something in between vcr and dvd. Why was it not more popular? ive never even heard of it
ponyplayallday 2 years ago
Expensive, huge (by the time it started to become big, LP records were already gone)
scarmullet 2 years ago
But there was nothing wrong with the model in this example. You said it's a bad example, but it was a good example, which makes what you said, VERY untrue.
Just because you prefer higher end stuff and are more rich than others, isn't a fair comparison. Compare cheap LD to cheap DVD vs High End LD to High End DVD.. Apples to oranges...
hakemon 2 years ago
Oh, and by the way, just dissing ANY Pioneer LD player just made you a disgrace to the LD community that is still alive today. Shame on you!
hakemon 2 years ago
Other than even having digital CLV frame buffer, what benefit and thus, how was it bad?
It was a perfect example and for CAV, it would have looked NO different. So, you are fail.
hakemon 2 years ago
wow that is great fast fowarding and rewinding ! just immagin computers having a laser disc drive insted of a dvd drive, lol,that would look funny
windoes98se 2 years ago
That was the nice thing about LaserDisc, it would directly jump to the movie, DVD id that when it first came out but then they started going straight to the main menu.
Riddler95 2 years ago
why can't you just make a video about blueray
littlevince104 2 years ago
Why can't YOU?
hakemon 2 years ago
LDs can use their size to their advantage by putting cool things like program books, posters and lithographs in their box sets. Hard to stuff all of those goodies in a DVD case.
smoretaco 3 years ago
I totally agree with you about the content with the size advantage.
I was always dissapointed with the fact that many DVDs fail to include special features from LaserDiscs. This happened with The Lion King CAV Set, most of the special features from that LaserDisc set failed to make it to the DVD.
Riddler95 2 years ago
My friend has the CLD-V870 and I tested the fast-forward and the rewind function on the CLV discs, it doesent lose as much sync as this player when its FF on CLV discs, my friend doesen't have any CAV discs
KelvinTran3 3 years ago
While DVD is BETTER, you have to remember Laserdisc was 1978. And it has the same idea, just not perfect. Laserdisc was revolutionary for it's time. Would you compare an NES to a Wii?
NathanKelly1988 3 years ago
LaserDisc was perfect. It could have better audio than a DVD could, and many movies did.
It also had a far smoother rewind than a DVD did (when the LD was CAV).
LD to DVD is nothing like NES to Wii. So don't start that crap.
hakemon 3 years ago
I'm in defense of LD. Yeah, that was a bad analogy, but it was 12 AM and I was tired. Laserdisc was too bulky and big. The players took up too much room. DVD has taken the idea of LD and made it easier for the common man to accept it. Cheaper ways to make it, smaller, all that the people want
NathanKelly1988 3 years ago
this point is pretty much over with since Blu-ray kicks both laserdisc and dvds ass.
sleazypig 3 years ago
Believe it or not, but DVD was capable of comparable or superior audio: you could use an uncompressed PCM track utilizing a wider wordlength and a higher sampling rate than CD or LD PCM. However, most, if not all, DVD releases resorted to using Dolby Digital, even for stereo or mono, so the DVD PCM contention is academic since it was never really used to an appreciable degree.
For digital surround, DVD has better Dolby Digital, LD has better DTS. Both are better in Dolby Digital to 35mm film.
Watcher3223 3 years ago
@Watcher3223 actually LD had better Dolby Digital
daltex81 9 months ago
@daltex81
I should have clarified; I was talking in regard to bitrates.
For AC-3, DVD was capable of supporting a higher maximum bitrate than LaserDisc. Both LaserDisc AC-3 and DVD AC-3 had a higher maximum bitrate than AC-3 on 35MM film.
How well each outlet for AC-3 was employed by the studios, on the other hand, can vary widely in quality.
Watcher3223 9 months ago
However, I heard a CAV could only do 30 minutes of video on each side. CLV was 60 minutes.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
That was true,
CAV was often used for special edition box sets of movies, very common for the popular Disney boxsets. The Star Wars Trilogy Definitive Collection contained 9 CAV LaserDiscs.
I remember that very well cause almost ever 22 minutes I was getting up to flip the side or change the disc.
Riddler95 2 years ago
Wow.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
You have Smash.
Cool.
Yet Dexter Holland couldn't one-up a LD.
JohnFordDanceTroupe 3 years ago
ld like vhs but quality better.
dvd hight resolution than ld.
dvd win!
ds8908 3 years ago
In terms of stereo sound quality, LD wins.. Hardly any DVD's use the PCM tracks, but LD almost always uses PCM audio, which is a lossless codec.
hakemon 3 years ago
I had never seen an LD till high school. Those things are so wierd.
raptor750r 3 years ago
You should try a Super VHS tape vs. LaserDisc comparison. There actually were some movies commerically released on S-VHS tape in the late '80s and early '90s. They do show up on eBay from time to time.
I recently picked up a JVC S-VHS VCR for $10. The neat thing is that it can play regular VHS tapes through its S-Video output, so you maybe get slightly better quality than a regular VHS VCR playing through its composite output.
vwestlife 3 years ago
S-VHS had a significant boost in frequency of the luminance carrier, which means a sharper picture than regular VHS. But, the chrominance was still the same under-modulated carrier that was used in VHS.
The real advantage of S-VHS was that its video was Y/C separated while LaserDisc video was composited, hence if you use the s-video connection, S-VHS may edge out LaserDisc except with higher end LD players or, if you use the composite connection, a high end TV.
Watcher3223 3 years ago
Regarding s-video, or separated video, since S-VHS, and VHS for that matter, are natively Y/C separate, using the s-video connection bypasses a step in the video processing: comb filtering.
With LaserDisc, as the video is natively composite (color and greyscale elements are combined as one), if you use s-video, the player has to deal with separating the Y/C elements while with a composite connection you are tasking the TV with that job.
Watcher3223 3 years ago
Nice comparison.
spatsbear2 3 years ago