Sahara Live Nightwish Helsinki

[AnetteOlzonItalia]

don't listen to it then and go and put an avril lavigne cd on :)

[dragothica]

WTB a video, the lights were quite nice on Sahara at the gig. Nightwish should already release a concert DVD with Anette.

[crimrose]

From what I've heard, they're waiting for the full-orchestral shows at the end of the tour. Even though I'd love a DVD, the full-orchestral shows will be magnificent, and I'd much rather wait for that than have one now. :)

[coolkula1]

So good!

[kureboy]

hey tomashudibe I'm latin and I'm not escoria ¬¬

even I like Annette cus I know how hard is to sing in the proper way

[ToxicxEternity]

You guys who attack annette have no hearts. She most likely knew that she would be hated by so many people yet she tries really hard to sustain the greatness of nightwish. I personally find it hard to imagine there is someone out there besides Tajra that is better suited for the job.

[justanamehere]

"She most likely knew that she would be hated by so many people yet she tries really hard to sustain the greatness of nightwish."

Bullshit, she does it for the money. She's already said she doesn't care about the fans, she's making MUCH more money than she used to make in Alysson Avenue, she only cares about the "boys", etc.

She wants to party, get rich, and fuck a lot.

[ToxicxEternity]

Lets just say she wants to do that too. What's stopping her? That just makes her a hard worker and just gives me another form of respect for her.

In the end, she sings her heart out and does it damn well. That's all that matters.

[justanamehere]

What erks me is when people say all Tarja cared about was money and cite that as a reason why she should be despised, when that is the furthest thing from the truth, it's just one of many baseless accusations spewed by Tuomas in his open letter that many have swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

It's obvious that all Anette cares about is money and what it buys, yet nobody seems to have a problem with HER...

[BloddopadAvSatan]

Well, go figure..all of the applications for the singing position was probably buy girls who can sing and want to make money of it..

The point with Tarja wasn't the money, it was that she didn't really care about the band, as long it worked for her, anything else could fuck off..

That's pretty much why they kicked her, she had become a diva..

Plus, she did want to charge more money for the concerts etc (ergo, the money issue that people are adressing), the other members disagreed.

[justanamehere]

"The point with Tarja wasn't the money, it was that she didn't really care about the band, as long it worked for her, anything else could fuck off.."

And you were there, and saw this happen personally? The open letter is 99% bullshit and 1% fact, written to turn the fans against Tarja.

"That's pretty much why they kicked her, she had become a diva..

Plus, she did want to charge more money for the concerts etc "

Tuomas and Anette are a million times bigger divas than Tarja ever was.

[justanamehere]

The trouble with Nightwish really started in 2002 when Tarja was practically raped onstage in Mexico by a crazed fan, where the band totally ignored what was going on and didn't bother doing anything to stop it.

In fact, the former bass player Sami stepped over her as the guy was on top of her tearing her blouse and sticking his hands in places they didn't belong.

Marcelo, her future husband, was a manager for the event and ran up onto the stage and pulled him off her.

[BloddopadAvSatan]

Okay, so I wasn't there personally..but YOU know for a fact that the letter is 99% bullshit and 1% fact.

Seriously, blow it out your ass.

[justanamehere]

"but YOU know for a fact that the letter is 99% bullshit and 1% fact."

A prime example is how Tuomas says Tarja WANTED to cancel a sold out concert in Oslo to "go to the movies" or some other bullshit. People read that to mean that she DID cancel.

NO FUCKING NW CONCERT in Oslo was cancelled in 2004-2005 for ONE. For TWO, the show in question was added to the schedule without first informing Tarja, and the show was sold out before they ever sent an email to her husband about the show.

[BloddopadAvSatan]

Assuming that you know all this that your spitting out..

But it's bad enough that she wants to cancel it..

From all I can see, you are just spitting out bullshit yourself, your assuming alot of things that is not confirmed at all.

Sorry, I've got no more time to waste on you.

[justanamehere]

For one, everything I've written is easily verified by reading Marcelo's answers to fans questions, and by looking at the Nightwish tour schedule for 2004-2005.

As I suggested earlier, Tuomas is FUCKING LYING when he said that she WANTED to cancel, as he didn't even speak to her about the concert, and she didn't know anything about it. Her husband never said that she WANTED to cancel, she wasn't even aware of the email until after the conversation.

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[justanamehere]

"From all I can see, you are just spitting out bullshit yourself, your assuming alot of things that is not confirmed at all.

"

Coming from someone who not only believes every single word written by the one who fired her, but adds his own bullshit that wasn't even in the "letter", that's pretty funny.

What, you don't believe Tarja was attacked onstage? Look up "Tarja's attack" on YouTube.

Read up about it on the net. Look at the tour schedules, read Marcelo's responses.

[BloddopadAvSatan]

I find it funny that, the possibility that Tarja & Marcelo could be lying never crossed your mind.

I never said I belived every word in the letter, but none the less, it's not to far fetched to think that she did infact become a diva, and so on..

What IS far fetched is thinking that this is a complete conspiracy from Toumas because he was jealous.

[justanamehere]

"it's not to far fetched to think that she did infact become a diva, and so on.."

Why do YOU personally consider her a diva?

[justanamehere]

"What IS far fetched is thinking that this is a complete conspiracy from Toumas because he was jealous."

Why would he have fired her the way he did? Did you know that many of his lyrics were written FOR Tarja? Have you ever read the lyrics to "Ever Dream"? Did you know that Marcelo had told Tuomas in Oct 2004 to backoff, his chances with her were over now that she was married?

Did you know that Tuomas reportely replied with "nobody was going to be able to stop his love for Tarja"?

[dnanything]

Explain, other than the breakup of nightwish, how she is a diva

[dnanything]

Wanst she sick and terrified/ nervous to do the show. Wasnt that the reason she wanted to cancel. I would be too.

[justanamehere]

"Wanst she sick and terrified/ nervous to do the show. Wasnt that the reason she wanted to cancel. I would be too. "

No, the show wasn't on the original schedule and she knew nothing about it. She only found out about from her husband who relayed the message from Nightwish management, who only contacted him after the tickets were already sold out. She never said she wanted to cancel, that is just one of Tuomas' lies.

[justanamehere]

The very fact that Tuomas fired her in such an outrageously cruel way speaks volumes as to who the true villian is. There was NO fucking reason to fire her backstage at Hartwell arena. If it were absolutely necessary to fire her, the band could have waited a week or at least a few days to do it, and they didn't need to plaster their dirty laundry all over the Internet, even IF it were true, where it's obvious to any reasonably intelligent person that it isn't.

[justanamehere]

Here's the original 2004 tour dates for Oslo posted at metalyou com (can't post URL as YouTube finds them and deletes the comment)

Jul 23 - Oslo, Norway @ Rockefeller

Jul 24 - Oslo, Norway @ Rockefeller

Here's the updated schedule from nightwish org uk

21.07.2004 Rockefeller Oslo Norway

23.07.2004 Rockefeller Oslo Norway

24.07.2004 Rockefeller Oslo Norway

You'll notice that the show on 7/21/04 is the one that was added. You'll see that it wasn't cancelled if you look it up.

[dnanything]

it could all be true, but put together it is alot of bull.

[justanamehere]

The email asked if Tarja was free that day, and Marcelo said yes, he thinks she has free time that day. NW responded asking what Tarja does in her free time, and Marcelo said "she likes to go to the movies, hang out with friends, go shopping, etc.".

So Tuomas takes THAT and uses it against her in his "open letter", even though Tarja DID perform that concert, even though she didn't know about the concert till the last minute, and it wasn't even HER that NW spoke to about it.

What a prick.

[justanamehere]

After the guy was pulled off her, she walked off-stage and wept in her room, yet the band continued to play whatever song they were performing. Once done, the other members walked past her room without a word of comfort. It was Sami who told Marcelo he should check in on her.

Tarja eventually married Marcelo. Tuomas apparently has been insanely jealous over Marcelo since, and resented his presence at concerts.

To make a long story short, Tuomas fired Tarja out of spite and jealousy.

[justanamehere]

"Plus, she did want to charge more money for the concerts etc "

No, MARCELO had brought up the idea of higher ticket prices to benefit the entire band, not just Tarja.

As far as greed, Tuomas changed the policy of song writing credits to include only himself as the song writer, where on Angels Fall First the entire band received song writing credit as agreed upon.

Of course he gets more money than the other members being the only song writer.

[tomashudibe]

LadySyriana: Perraaaa te cagaste o keee??? ya no me respondes o esque ya te sacaron de youtube maldita escoria latina

[florasflorence]

If people wanna say how bad Anette is, I think they should only compare her when she sings Tarja's songs. I think Anette's really good, but when she's singing what's been written for her. I loved Dark Passion Play as much as I loved Once. Personally, I like Tarja more but I do like Anette alot

[haaaveyoumetted]

Why cant people just like both Anette and Tarja? Nightwish is great no matter what

[Pyroluver90]

I love them both. Tarja's singing helps me sleep at night, or when I just want to hear a peaceful song. And when I want to rock out I listen to songs sung by Anette. I'm probably one of a dime dozen though.

[LiviaEvans]

I've to say, i'm tired too of this stupid posts by the tarjaholics. I loved Tarja, too, as I love Anette now, but i think she will never have anymore the magic of NW's music, nor the Tuomas' lyrics. So stop judging only on Anette's voice, because she sings live from little time in front of millions of listeners. NW is a complex of music, atmosphere, poetry. They're amazing even without a great opera singer like Tarja.

[chronakademiks]

Dude NW rocks both ways, it's just voices and Anette has a way different register than Tarja's church choir kind of thing but HEY who gives a F, music goes on! LOVED N STILL LIKE NW

[CelticWarrior0]

Why are people attacking Anette on her own fucking song?

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Because the stupid fucks are upset that she cant sing like Tarja.

[Fedenobx]

Hate Anette, Love Tarja!!!! hahahaha tired hahaha

[haaaveyoumetted]

tarja was great, anette is great therefore Nightwish will always be great!!

[ljale4ka20]

this pic is from secret first gig with annette olzon 22sept. 2007 in Tallinn=)

[SleepingWinter]

I'm still not sure about Anette but this song dont seems so good!

[pascalseul]

...tired of "Hate Anette, Love Tarja " posts

[FCBrugge111]

you right !!!!!

love anette - love tarja !!!

nightwish the best!!!

[Arem177]

Both are great singers. I wasn't too sure about Anette, but then I got Dark Passion Play, and love it to pieces.

[pascalseul]

Nightwish actually played in a secret gig as "coverband" in september 2007 in Helsinki, Tavastia Club.....

[D1shMast3r]

WTF! I think Nightwish aren´t play live in Helsinki 2007 (first gig 1.1.2008 and I saw it!!!)!!!

[joenightwish113]

hey why you guys uses that kind of language in here... stop or i'll delete your comentaries.... you can discuss your point of view about the video/song but not swear to each other... THIS IS NOT A FORUM YOU RETARDS

[tietojokeri]

Anette is singing in tune better than Tarja. Talking about live performance ;-)

[darthy0da]

Okay, well, Anette is great at singing the stuff that was written for her to sing, but she sucks immensely at singing Tarja's songs.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

I sort of agree. I think she can do "Ever Dream", "Nemo" and "Sleeping Sun" the best. They gotta cover some NEW songs that AREN'T Nightwish.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

GET LADYSYRIANA OFF OF HERE IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When someone threatens Anette, it brings out hell.........ELIMINATE ....SYRIANA!!!!!!!!!!

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

I have bad taste in music? YOU'RE the Tarja fan here, not me.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

That's the best ya got????? Damn. The world's going to Hell. :/

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Oh no I'm good thanks. Now if you and your parents were killed the same way Anastacia was, THEN the planet would be (somewhat) normal again.

[franniejj]

Anette is awesome!<3

[joenightwish113]

I don't know if Anette it's gonna sing those songs... but i hope so...

[joenightwish113]

No no you're wrong.. we'll kill you

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

WE WILL KILL you off. How DARE you threaten Anette, you self-absorbed slut-faced, mentally-f**ktarded WHORE? Go and fall in the ocean and pray tell a poisonous fish gets to you.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Did it ever occur to you that Tarja is NEVER NEVER (X 5,000,000) going back to Nightwish????? And you are obviously a fan of Classical music.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Get the fuck off here. You NEVER liked Nightwish. Only Whoreya. Go fucking listen to her unusually shitty "album" and leave the fans of the BAND alone. And Tarja *pukes* MOVED ON and the band as well. It probably angers the band that their former stupid-ass fans dont know shit and are STILL begging about Tarja returning to the band. Guess what???? SHE'S NEVER GOING BACK TO NW LIKE IT OR NOT!

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

jajajaajajajajaja that was like so f**ktarded. jajajajajajajaja tarja was annoying as hell jajajajajajajajajajajajajaaja. hey look! I can speak retard! YAY! XD jajajaja

[reindeerride]

LadySyriana, those are pretty strong words! Actually it scears me, after all there´s maniacs like you everywhere! A staintment like that is actually criminal and can be lawsuited!

[LadySyriana]

Words are just words my friend ;) Somebody attacks me and I`ll attack back ;) is just that simple.

[Tom7Williams]

How very mature of you.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

You actually CAN be punished over words. Seriously. It's amazing what can happen to someone just with words.

[JRadicalll]

very original

[haaaveyoumetted]

You are kidding, you wouldnt kill her, you couldnt! and if you did all the nightwish fans would come kill you!!

[BaicalHunter]

nightwish did the right thing bringing naette on teh band. the sound so much better now, I think.

[NightwishMuffin]

i love anettes voice! i don´t know why so much people hate anette. It wasn´t her fault that nightwish fired tarja!

[Siljeums]

I like anette on new songs but not old

[nathaniell84]

this is the kind of songs .. :(

that tarja's opera and her powerful voice would save them and even make them wonderful ... as it fantasmic part3 and others.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

We3 have bad taste in music????? We're not the ones obsessed with Whore-ja and her UNUSUALLY-overrated voice.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

You couldn't kill me if you tried. And I NEVER commented on MY voice..... and plus I dont have any kind of video camera available in my house. And since you think you know good vocals, YOU upload a recording. Oh that's right. You're hjust an ugly, f**tarded, useless, piece of scum referred to as Tarja Whores by me. And for your retarded ass self, I'm a boy. XD. Too fucking stupid you didn't figure it out before.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Tuomas makes me sick. REALLY fucking SICK. I cannot STAND the bastard. EUGHH. And if Tuomas DOES come for me, he's gonna have his head blown to bits. You're bringing CULTURE into this now???? Yeah. And you call ME the confused, ignorant one. And you wouldn't know a faggot if Kevin Federline fucked you in the ass with Justin Timberlake.

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

I'm not the stupid one here. This war is going NOWHERE. What do you say we act like big kids and fight more violently???????

[haaaveyoumetted]

Okay, what the hell is your problem with Tuomas? He is amazing!

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

I NEVER bashed Tuomas!!! Did I? Well I do NOT HATE HIM. It's all Anette haters that dislike Tuomas for picking her. :/

[tomashudibe]

LadySyriana: for the record I am an opera singer faaar better than you could possible dream off...MUERETE ZORRA MALPARIDA KE A TU MADRE LA VIOLO UN MENDIGO MARICON PARA QUE SEVERA HIJA DE PUTA GONORREICA LE SALIERA DE SU CHOCHA MALDITA

[nathaniell84]

Tarja rulllz

[InoBober92]

I really like her in new songs:)

But better not to comment her performances in the old ones:P

[neiklotmetal]

NIghtwish keeps rocking!!!

Anette sounds very cool!

[triviumislife]

Nightwish get better and better all the time. WOW !!!!!!

I'm lucky 'cause I Have a ticket to their concert in Helsinki... :)

[andzikowa]

Anette on live sounds cool! :D

I can't wait to go on concert ;)

[normantteri]

OMFG! Anette rocks <3

[Princessusch]

Ooh wow!

[floorjansen2]

is good

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

YAAAAAAAAY ANETTE!!!!!

[shitofmierda]

yo tengo todo el mp3 de nightwish en helsinki/tavastia 2007 =)

me encanta Anette ^^!

[Hiro89]

subelo a alguna pagina!! o mandamelo a mi mail PORFAVOR XD

[blackirises]

I swear, the closer it gets till their concert I'm going to, the more gittery I get. I hate feeling this way. I DON'T GET GITTERY! -sigh- not cool.

has anyone else noticed that when you're waiting for something good, time draggs, but whden you're dreading somthing, it speeds up? -growl-

I have a countdown in my planner...

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

blackiries, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. I WANNA go see Nightwish next weekend so bad! I need 25-30 dollars EXTRA fast! And some more for merchandise....mwhahahaha.

[blackirises]

two weeks for me... 13 DAYS! 13 DAYS! 13 DAYS! I'm seriously thiiiiis close to hyperventilating to the point of passing out. XD

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

Remember: Bring along someone that knows how to upload GOOD QUALITY concert videos and put them on f**king Youtube! PLEEAAASE!

[blackirises]

sorry. i don't have a camcorder, or I would, and I know my cell phone wont be good quality...otherwise I'd ask my mom to record stuff. I'll be too busy screaming myself so hoarse I wont be able to talk for a week. I'm sure it'll be all over here though. if you look at the vids, its like a sea of recording devices. :)

[paradizebay]

Wow, I would love to have this too. :-[

[symphoniker666]

yeahh...i want the full concert..it simply rocks!!

[FCBrugge111]

awesome !!!!

anette is the best!!!

[WhatIOnceWas]

AWESOME! Thank you so much!

Anette's voice is just perfect, the instrumentals and the way she expresses the song blend beautifully.

[Szabinger]

Ye i'd be so happy if u'd like to send them to me :D Pls write me a pm if u could :D

[sonatadra]

nice :O if i give you my mail can you send me the songs please ? it would be great :P

[joenightwish113]

yes i have all concert in mp3

[themetalcloud]

Coo. iv sent you the message. Anette is awesome live love her Wishmaster and Sleeping Sun

[Evanescencefan4life]

you have the WHOLE concert?? aah... could you upload the songs somewhere please?? i'm dying to hear better NEW live versions than all these here on youtube...

[themetalcloud]

this is about as good as your gonna get TBH

[xxxthoughtlessxxx]

upload it all!!!! I ADORE Anette's voice AND her stage presence! YAAAAY!

[themetalcloud]

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