Doctor Who - Hartnell Title Sequence Tests

[2206411411]

The important thing is that TWO MISSING EPOSIDES WERE FOUND!

[all13Doctors]

It was what it was back then. I was somehow "cut out" to the whole concept back in 81.

[therealKINDLE]

Mark Ayers is a Real Stuck up Toffee Nose Twat in Real life. He Doesn't bother Answering his E-mails, he barely has a sense of Humour, he condescends at Every oppertunity, he is his own biggest Fan, Treats Every Dr Who Fan who knows the first thing about Music as a threat, Ignores Fan Mail so I'm Told, & yet this prick was given all of Delia Derbyshires Tapes? He Treats the restoration like it's a Chore, & Yet it would be a God Damn Privalliege to any 1 of us. He's good at Tech, shit at Music.

[animationdude56]

has anyone noticed that the delaware theme fits almost perfectly with this? i have, and its kind of creepy.

[pIECE0FcAKE]

Does anyone know how they made the video effect / technique used? I´ve been looking for it looooooong time, but no luck yet :o/

[animationdude56]

@pIECE0FcAKE its called howlaround. its basically feedback from a camera. you connect the camera to the television screen or computer, whichever you prefer, so that what you see through the camera appears on the screen. then you point the camera on the screen so that the camera sees whats on the screen, and it shows on the screen. then what shows on the screen gets recorded by the camera, etc etc etc. its like when you point one mirror into another mirror : you get endless mirrors.

[pIECE0FcAKE]

@animationdude56 Niceeeee, thanks for the information animationdude, after you gave me that hint was matter of sfew minutes googling and found what is needed to recreate it; now it seems even more interesting; I´ll give it a try with colorful, modern, stuff. Saddly I also found out that Norman Taylor, the genius who made it back in the 60´s, has passed out :o/ RIP man, and thanks, you will be remembered and followed by many.

[animationdude56]

@pIECE0FcAKE heres a little tip : you cant film howlaround in colour as it produces an unsatisfying effect and doesnt look very professional, so it needs to be filmed in black and then colourized, thats what they did for Jon Pertwee's first title sequence

R.I.P. Norman Taylor

[ThePuzzledboy]

More psychadelic than the original

[partspro660]

Cool effects and music for it's time. Wonder if Susan was the first Doctor's grand daughter..wouldn't all of the regenerated Doctors be her grandfather?

[inicap]

I grew up watching the Jon Pertwee Doctor and loved it. The theme tune is unbelievable, more than 40 years after it was made it send shivers down my spine evey time I listen to it. Increadible.

[hostroute]

Were some of these additional howl round shots not used on the Dalek's monitors in Dalek Invasion of Earth?

[009radix]

@hostroute They indeed were 0:43 was looped and could be seen on the monitors in the background. Good catch!

[jamestheposh]

Can someone please clarify- I read on the DWAS paperwork of archive holdings years ago that part of the existing reels of tests, there exists footage where heads inserted grew 'horns and looked like demons' or something like that. Verity Lambert vetoed it as far as I can remember. Has this footage been released? Just I can't seem to find it if it has!

Thanks

[Chewu]

from 1:20 onwards it sounds like trance music, proper trance music that sends you into a trance

[icemachine79]

It's amazing to think how much work it took to mix this back in 1963. Physically cutting and splicing the tape, having to use a different tape machine for each note, no real mixing boards to speak of... and yet it still blows the newer versions out of the water. Delia Derbyshire was a true genius.

[DVD2409]

0:45 that part makes me feel sick

[butiamthedoctor]

This version of the theme tune was used for the episodes, but it was also the take 1 version, full of mistakes. The 'Mark Ayres' mix on the CD is the full version released as a single, which should have been used on the episodes, but wasn't. You can't really call that one the 'Mark Ayres' mix though, as all he did was clean up the master tapes and separated it into stereo for the CD. It was Delia Derbyshire's arrangement ultimately.

[marcsinc]

Before and beyond our time! I love visual howl around - Marc late of the BBC

[DjangoVanGogh]

Must be about 20 years ahead of its time.

[manchesterbadger]

The scariest theme tune ever. I think the early, more spartan version is the creepiest simply because it is more spartan. Brilliant stuff by Ron and Delia.

[talentshowdown]

i told someone about the An Unearthly child thingamajig

[timewarwarrior]

great thanks for putting it on youtube i needed it i'm going to collect all the doctor who themes

[Castrolvalva]

It's a shame they didn't use this extended version for the end credits!

[jakestlm]

This version is new. It's a remix of the original.

[NyeTunes]

No it isn't! This is what plays over the beginning of "An Unearthly Child", from the start of the opening titles to when the episode title appears on screen a couple minutes into the episode.

[NyeTunes]

I don't like the Hartnell theme, it's too plain. I like the Troughton-onwards theme with the "spanglies". :-P

[androzani7]

I think it's haunting! The most eerie version. I love it

[bloodvamp78]

@androzani7 u agree with you everytime i listin to it, it sends tingles down my spine

[1400deadwood]

The original = always the best!

[metroidprime4]

hell yeh

[garishyellowshirt]

It starts to sound vaguely Christmas-like at 0.40.

[BobLarrabee]

The theme got worse and worse over the years. It started off really cool but by the 80's, it had turned into Disco Doctor. Only by the Sylvester McCoy years did it start turning around and getting better again.

[tardiselliot]

the music is a different edit to this on my dvd

any idea where i could get this edit from.

i really like the dum de dum end peice. it works really well

[timelord726]

This is the original titles mix of the theme that was used on the show throughout the 60s. I much prefer it to the Mark Ayres remixed version that was used on the DVD.

[trombone667]

What does the Mark Ayres mix sound like?

[timelord726]

Shit.

[androzani7]

You betcha

[Gripweed94]

@timelord726 I dunno... I thought it was interesting. But are we talking about the stereo remixes of this theme, or his sound alike one? Because I like both.

[peggymount]

@timelord726 But MArk knows everything about the RW and is always right.

[TheStormfam]

@timelord726 BLEEPER GUY!!!!

[Hadra568]

my cat loves the doctor who theme. I can't explain it, must be the frequency or something. If its on he starts purring like mad

[timelord726]

Your cat has very fine taste.

[Atomius1]

best theme music/intro sequence ever

[DoctorWhoLeelaFan]

Very good! I've subscribed!

[samothraki1]

The original, the best. Not a crappy re-mix in sight!

[williamshank]

Wasen't there more footage?

[FEZW1CK9]

Psychedelic zebra!  I love that description. Spot on.

[flippinecc]

Always reminds me of a psychadelic zebra ;p

Saturday teatimes haven't been quite the same since...

[AJDian]

I love the way the last(?) appearance of the logo happens in an "explosive" way!

[NyeTunes]

These aren't the *complete* tests... remember, the "Origins" documentary has even more, like the one where they mixed in a crewmember's face.

[LaylaConn]

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the Doctor Who titles sequences in Quicktime format? My brother's a huge fan of the show and wants to know as soon as possible.

[AJDian]

When you say "Quicktime format", do you mean '.mov'?

[LaylaConn]

Yes, exactly. Do you happen to know how?

[AJDian]

I'm not sure if my reply got to you or not, but I don't think it did due to the "URL detector". So, I've sent you the same message, only this time via a private message on YouTube. Tell me if it worked!

[marinedalek]

A video mixer in the signal path between the camera and the monitor it was pointed at - by fading slowly to the picture of the Doctor Who caption the howl-round pattern was more and more influenced by it and eventually resolved into the complete caption.

[AJDian]

The one thing that annoys me about these tests is the face that the bassline at the end is continuous right the way through to the end - it could have done with one final "oo-ee-oo"!

[otacon98]

that's because its the original version of the theme, the one you are probably talking about is the edited version they remixed at bbc later on with better effects and the ending you mentioned.

[AJDian]

Are these genuine title sequence tests, or were they just specially made to show what the sequence went through?

[moller111]

no hese were the origanal tests. Also if you own the Tomb of the Cybermen on DVD when you go onto the main menu press the up button on your remote and it will high-light the doctor who logo. press enter and it lets you watch the Ptrick Troughton tests!!!

[AJDian]

I have got that DVD, and I am aware of that Easter Egg. However, I thought they were just clean Troughton titles, not his tests (which are available as a standard special feature)!

[moller111]

have you found the eatser egg on it now?

[AJDian]

I was aware of the Easter Egg before you replied to my original comment, but I'm saying is that I thought the titles you get when you select the logo are just clean Troughton titles, not the tests - the tests are featured as a standard extra elsewhere on the DVD!

[moller111]

oh sorry

[AJDian]

That's okay! They are very similar!

[StePerson111]

i like it..... but its a bit repetitive!

:D

[AnthonyUK]

They WERE going to have William Hartnell's face in the titles for the first doctor BUT Verity Lambert decided against because she thought they were too scary.

[Splinge]

Footage of the "scary" face test is on the Bernard lodge interview on the DVD release of "Robot"- the face of is of one of Bernard's assistants looking slightly embarrassed as his features dissolve in and out of the now familiar title graphics!

[tenchnio]

Bernard Logde did do human faces in some test footage but i do not know if it survives, dr.who's then producer verity lambert thought the sequences were too scary to use with people's face and spouting horns as it made them look evil and frightening to show on the doctor who show at the teatime slot.

[maxitrain989]

Eh? I thought the Hartnell tests got destroyed!

[timelord726]

Nope -- the final titles master used on the show was destroyed, but much of the test footage survived (as evidenced by this video).

[timelord726]

Yes, you're right, they did use bits of howlaround footage on Dalek screens throughout the Hartnell era.

[R055HP]

It was in 'The Dalek Invasion of Earth'.

[AidanLunn]

I read somewhere that they did some more test footage of this with human faces appearing as well!

[timelord726]

I have heard the same thing. I wouldn't mind seeing what that footage looked like! There were images of the Doctor and Susan's faces in this footage originally but I removed them a while back so I could just have pure howlaround footage. The images were not worked into the howlarounds at all -- it was just like what you saw in An Unearthly Child itself, the faces with the howlarounds superimposed on them. That's why I didn't think it was necessary to leave them in.

[DoctorWhoJohnnyBoy]

I think that there are some test clips within the 'Doctor Who: Origins' Special Feature. :-?

This can be found on "The Edge of Destruction" DVD. :-)