Baldur's gate 1 - Candelkeep (music)

[RingingStrings]

"aah... I shouldn't have joined the army...."

[Tranquilance]

If BioWare remade Baldur's Gate with very minor changes such as improved graphics and stuff like that, I would honestly buy it.

[haggiz85]

@Tranquilance Doesnt need improved graphics!

[HandyMan101]

Bioware could bring back the Infinity Engine if they wanted.

If they did, I would be first in line to buy whatever they came up with.

3d does not a good game make.

[ariandynas]

@HandyMan101 Personally this does not make sense to me. As much as I love Baldur's gate, I also enjoy advanced graphics, and now, having moved far away from the (quite) pathetic graphical level of NWN 1 and with games like Skyrim and Dragon age, I fail to understand what appeals so much still about the Infinity engine. Yes it looked very nice at the time and did it's job well, but what makes it superior in your mind? I am genuinely curious.

[HandyMan101]

@ariandynas Hand Drawn. Also something is to be said for imagination. and the top down view gives it a more strategic feel. Case in point, its not exactly easy or doable to shoot a fireball and have your whole party out of the way of the explosion in a 3d enviroment. There is some satisfying about shooting an area of effect spell and being able to keep your party out of harms way. Reading the text, and just the whole feel of the game is very pnp-ish. Hard to describe.

[HandyMan101]

@ariandynas The other thing you have to keep in mind is depth. If a game company spends 3 years making a video game, and a large portion of that time is designing the 3d assets, how much left over is there for depth and story and imagination ? When a world is created for you to be made realistic, you lose something in what you fill in the blanks with. It's like the difference between the book and the movie. The book is always better. The same can be said for BG\Current Gen

[ariandynas]

@HandyMan101 Well to point out a few things, using a already availible example in Dragon Age, one if you scroll out for an isometric veiw, it is in fact VERY simple to finagle with AoEs to not hit your party. As for depth, they spent 3 years just thinking of the setting, establishing the background for the game they WERE making and the ones they planned to make, in BG's case what soaked up most of the time was animating the environments most like.

[ariandynas]

@HandyMan101 personally I always take the advantage to use my imagination to make the game suit my needs, my imagination is my own, aint nothin that says I can't imagine things in the game suit me. Basically I am just saying, modern games are not bad. Really I think the difference is that with the Infinity Engine, there was little enough information that people filled in the blanks themselves, making their own world, but now the developers can take you to THEIR world, so they do.

[haavar90]

Imagination is the best grafic card there is.

[theflightawayband]

The amount of hours I spent on the baldurs gate seriously was ridiculous. Ridiculously worth it!!

[rachskald]

@theflightawayband Amen :)

[enmartinsen81]

What is it with Germany and great composers, I wonder. They've got the greatest classical ones, and the greatest fantasy ones, like Michael Hoenig and Kai Rosenkranz.

[HerrProfM]

I've completed BG1 this summer, yet again. That was my 8th time. It was still loads of fun, however, not as fun as when I played it for the first time when I was 13.

The time I first played it, the first time I was sucked into the Forgotten Realms; that moment was one of the most amazing times that I can remember. The only other time I felt like that was when I played Planescape: Torment. But BG2 didn't bring that feeling to me. It was a great game but after BG1 it didn't feel that amazing...

[rickyirishman]

im a rpg gamer i love neverwinter nights dragon age oblivion baulders gate dark alliance 1 and 2 but sadly i was never able to get around to to the original baulders gate games

[fich01]

Wait, people are comparing WoW to BG here? What the hell, man? :)))))))) One is one of the finest RP games ever made and still stands as the standard of quality when it comes to creating RPG-s. Every RPG that has been made since has been at least once compared to that one game. The other is a money-making machine with little soul and plenty of little tricks that make it addictive. Guess which is which.

[SvitjodsWarrior]

You know, i used to be like a.. Moooooonblade.

[Marinanor]

I'm a Lufia, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, fan, but I"m also a Baldur's Gate Fan. There's nothing quite like Baldur's gate.

[Xyrastrasz]

This soundtrack is the one where it all began

[drawnacrol]

My hotel's as clean as an elven arse

[JereyRocksJerey]

SUFFER! THEY SHALL ALL SUFFER!

[ChStapeler]

The Baldur's Gate saga is over. Perfect as it is. Another rpg as good as Baldur's Gate? Sure! But a Baldur's Gate 3 would be like writing a sequel to Hamlet or repainting the Mona Lisa. You don't mess with the classics, man. I'd suggest a remake. Just transplant the entire saga, down to the last line of dialog, to a modern graphics engine (isometric!), slap that baby on a couple of DVDs, and I'm set for another 13 years... lol

[Derax2]

Every other day I pray Bioware will how awesome it woul be to make a Baldurs gate 3 title.

Dragon Age is good but the backstory and battle rules aren't really good....

Does anyone here know why they decided not to make games with using the D&D rules?

Peace!

[swesleyc7]

@Derax2 I think I read something about the developers of Dragon Age losing rights to the Baldur's Gate/D&D names/franchises/etc. It was rumored that the now Dragon Age developers were in fact making a Baldur's Gate 3 sequel when the carpet came out from under it for some reason. So, they went off on their own tangent, making a fantasy RPG without D&D rules - and made Dragon Age instead. This is just what I remember...

[MrLaserowy]

@swesleyc7 It actually is the only logical reason. Maybe, someday...

[MrStarTrekkie]

here should be a Baldur's gate 3.

[LaceratorX]

Ahhh, this brings memories.. of being killed by the first hostile person you meet in Candlekeep because I decided to roll an Elf Mage... and then later owning all with a storm of lightning and disintegration rays.

[MrLaserowy]

@LaceratorX True, but you had to reach level 4 or so, to actually mean something in battle. Before that, mages in BG are just push-overs (had a human mage - I have to find that character on my old HD!).

[4rr0wFr0st]

In regard to Kamfrenchie's comment, fun tidbit for y'all:

Baldur's Gate was originally intended to be an early MMORPG. BioWare decided to scale down their ambitions a bit (thank God).

[GenieBella]

I wish they still made games like this. This holds so many good memories.

[Ryuuusa]

They should make an MMORPG based on the baldur's gate world...i had the manual i forgot the name of the "Earth" of baldur s gate..started with A i think i forgot.

But I sincerely think an mmorpg for baldur s gate would REALLY be epic with all those classes and all that fighting D&D style.

I dont think i ve seen an mmorpg which had that depth and feel of intrigue in adventuring such as Baldur s gate.

Would be amazing.Really amazing.

[Grigeral]

@Ryuuusa The series/campaign setting is called Forgotten Realms, the world is called Faerun. It was created by Ed Greenwood who also helped write the D&D campaign setting supplement for it.

The reason it's so filled with information, is because the setting was already written in full over a decade (I believe) before the game was ever even released.

Technically, they have a D&D MMO, it's just set in Eberron, rather than Forgotten Realms.

[Ryuuusa]

@Grigeral You re wrong.The series was set in the continent of Faerun.The planet was called Abeir-Toril ( some call it Toril.).The forgotten realms is a seperate sort of parallel dimension to ours with the other races.Set in the D&D setting.I read this from Ed greenwood's info.Ed greenwood is the sole creator of the forgotten realms which he "started making" it at around 1967.when he was a little boy he liked to imagine alot.But the D&D mmo is set in ebberron thats correct.

[Grigeral]

@Ryuuusa Touché. Ofcourse, completely forgot about it being called Toril (or Abeir-Toril), which is silly really lol. I've been studying the campaign setting for a campaign I'm running lol.

With Baldurs Gate, I wasn't meaning that the city itself was created by Greenwood, just the world itself or more fittingly, Toril. However, various parts of it were created by many authors.

I believe (but may be wrong here) that iirc, most of the Sword Coast was actually written by Salvatore.

[Ryuuusa]

@Grigeral thats true.The tales of the sword coast and lots of that were based on the "Times of troubles"Which was originally greenwood's idea.Salvatore too played an important role in making the entire forgotten realms as we know of it today.Greenwood according to him said that his version of the forgotten realms D&D game is a much darker one compared to the ones published.

[Ryuuusa]

@Grigeral But baldur's gate was made R.A Salvatore,he made the baldur's gate based on Greenwood's Forgotten realms.

[Arris3]

@Grigeral Faerun is just one of the continents on Toril, there is also Kara-Tur to the east (Where Yoshimo from BG2 is from) and another continent to the south, can't remember the name, but I think it starts with an M.

[harry116272000]

小時候的遊戲，永恆的回憶(The game in my childhood,the memory in forever)

[Hamletfan]

This music is in the Prologue, which is perhaps why people associate it with Candlekeep.

[nintendude4199]

some say World of Warcraft, i say Tales of the sword coast

others say Rune scape, I say Shadows of Amn

many say its lame, i say GO FOR THE EYES BOO, GO FOR THE EYES

[JereyRocksJerey]

@nintendude4199 GO FOR THE EYES BOO! RAGHHHHHHHH! :D lol I GET IT! U SAID THAT JUST TO MAKE BOO ANGRY! AHHH U ARE VERY SMART INDEED! BOO APPROVES

[lool283]

@nintendude4199 ehm...i play world of warcraft and tales of the sword coast too

[Ved0000]

I used to play this when I was 10. Did not understand the system that well. Spent most of my time trying to murder and rob the people on the second floor of the inn.

Just bought it off ebay (last copy broke), once it gets here I am going to play the hell out of it.

[lordianz]

super good old times with this starting music

[koveras13]

THIS MUSIC IS NOT IN CANDLEKEEP!! ITS IN BALDURS GATE I ASSURE YOU!

[lordianz]

@koveras13 i think you should play this game more

[lancerCNCS1]

@koveras13 You are right, lordianz is wrong. This tune is in Baldur's Gate, not Candlekeep. Also, From out of the Storm is the true "Last Battle" song vs. Sarevok. Don't understand why another song got that title.

[Boroher]

@lancerCNCS1 Right and wrong, this song plays after you return to Candlekeep too. In act 6

[lancerCNCS1]

@Boroher My bad. I just checked and you are right. This song plays in Baldur's Gate and in Candlekeep Chapter 6 (as well as in the Prologue).

[TheMeadhorn]

Home sweet home... XD

[Dreewcifer]

ive noticed you all talking about similarities between DA:O and BG. well for one bioware used the same noises when you equip a chestplate in DA:O as in BG haha. im a big fan of both games. i played every baldur's gate game growing up. and im an avid dragon age player. theyre both great games. cant we all just get along? :)

[Hubkaa]

@Dreewcifer Oh shit, really they used the same sound? xD @jerzkid87 Yep, i said that. Also-in lot of rpg games you play only one character, others are usually npc.

[MarkOfPower]

this game kicks everyones ass

[Inszz]

damn the uploader messed up alot of titles.. does he even know BG?

[moontoot]

So what you two are both saying are you don't like these games cause they're too hard for you lol. I heard mario kart is coming out with a new game, there ya go something you can win at.

[Inszz]

so why are you including me among these 2 people? BG is my favorite game of all-time, I played it out multiple times and still think of booting it up today. FYI.

[Hubkaa]

Fuck you every baldur's gate fan. This is gay rpg. Many are saying "Baldurs gate is best rpg on the world!". What with Planescape:Torment, the really very best one? And about Dragon Age-It rocks far more than your shitty bg. Blah blah blah. You can flame me now, noobs.

[Pasadena16lol]

@Hubkaa

Omg

[Hubkaa]

What, am I saying something wrong? :D

[Tomekkthegreat]

Ohh my. You're a big retard. Let me guess, your favorite game is WoW and you died in the first battle @ BG because you have no brain to use, just fingers to bash skill buttons?

[Hubkaa]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your mother. WoW sucks spider balls. I mean gameplay of WoW, cuz lore is great. No brain to use? Hahaha, and you are einstein for sure. Now go play your shitty bg and die. No, really, die. World doesn't need stupid retarded retards like you.

[Tomekkthegreat]

I wonder who's the retarded retard, me or someone who uses insults to prove his point and has bad-rated comments?

Seriously, get a life and stop pretending that you're someone cool by insulting random people on the internet.

[Hubkaa]

Hahaha, yea, and you are totally cool and your ridiculous comment (I'm wow fan? From where do you know that? : O! And actually, I died in BG when i was talking with npc :/) was great and very smart. You suck really hard. Now go fuck your mom.

[Tomekkthegreat]

Lol, if you're planning to insult me then good luck, cause they sound like some stupid kid swearing randomly :P

[Hubkaa]

Your face is random, mah boi!

[Kamfrenchie]

If you prefer WoW over Baldur's gate, you can't call yourself a RPG fan.

Seriously I doubt any MMO could match BG. Besides WoW lore is too heavily inspired from Warhammer lore, which is good but that makes WoW look like copy paste in cartoon style.

[Hubkaa]

Where the fuck i said "WoW>BG!1111111111111111111111­111111111111111111111111111111­111111111"? O.o I admit, WoW lore SUCKS ASS, but generally Warcraft lore is great (yarr, WoW is also warcraft, but they fucked up everything). Oh, and there's one REAL mmoRPG. Ultima Online, mah boi!

[jerzkid87]

@Hubkaa im sorry did you just say warcraft lore is better than forgotten realms.... l o l

[Grigeral]

@Hubkaa Baldurs Gate has more lore behind it than most any other game.

Just pick up a copy of the D&D (3rd Ed NOT 4th ed when it's out...) Forgotten Realms campaign setting. It's an entire campaign setting on what the world is and how it runs, where you can make your own table top adventures.

When you consider that Baldurs Gate is a city in the Sword coast and the Sword Coast is simply one area in a world already created... Warcrafts lore pales in comparisson.

[uniball2]

@Kamfrenchie

Finally someone else agrees that WoW graphics are WAY too cartoony. It looks like f'ing Sesame Street. Now BG....THAT was a game dawg!

[KyllerSza]

@Kamfrenchie I think that MMO games shouldn't be compared with singleplayer cRPG. Every MMO have a lack of lore. I mean the background may be pretty good, but there isn't any more complicated story that keeps the player within.

[Kamfrenchie]

@KyllerSza I was just responding to Hubkaa who said that BG sucked and that WoW had a great lore.

ABout MMO lore, I prefect guild war's lore over warcraft's lore, 'cause warcraft just feel like some kind of copy paste to me, guild wars is more original.

[AelianGod]

@KyllerSza maybe because you didn't play runescape :P

Anyway, balur's gate owns all :P

[Agent1W]

@Kamfrenchie WoW didn't even exist. You commanded Human and Orc armies throughout Warcraft, but that's different. It's games like this that held the meaning of an RPG. Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights too.

If only Blizzard would have done a Warcraft RPG series that mirrors the quality of BG. I mean, I do appreciate the RPG elements of WoW but they are too short-lived. There's no good stories to follow up on. It's like you have no real purpose for being in the game.

[DeatgMagnet]

@Kamfrenchie WoW is a great game, i would say def the best MmoRPG out there, but the thing is that MMOs are never truely RPGs...they lack the RPG elements, so no mmo could stand against a singleplayer RPG and for Baldurs Gate...well, BG 1 &2 are the best RPGs out there ever ! Also The Witcher and Dragon Age possibly would share the 3rd place.

[Kamfrenchie]

@DeatgMagnet

Didn't play WOW myself, I'm much more of a Guild wars fan tbh :p. But what i've seen of WOW didn't reallly attract me. I'm far from being a graphic whore but I hated how the gam looked, then in some cyber coffee I saw some guys just playing PK on beginners, then being all upset because some of them fought back etc.

I gues WOW has the most content of all MMO, but I don't think it is the best.

[DeatgMagnet]

@Kamfrenchie Every time i look wow gameplays, trailers, raids, battlegrounds and whatever i think what a lame game, but to play it urself is actually pretty good. ;)

[Kamfrenchie]

@DeatgMagnet

Maybe, but don't wanna pay monthly subscription, then i'll feel forced to play the game not to waste themoney.

I'l stick with Guild wars, the 2 looks awesome :D

[DeatgMagnet]

@Kamfrenchie Lol, play in private servers XD

[Grigeral]

@DeatgMagnet No. WoW is not a great game. I spent about 3 years addicted to that game, and that's what it is. An addiction.

The game itself is utter garbage. I mean, honestly, if you did not have the community there, how long would you play? Essentially, like all MMO's, it is a grind fest.

Without the community to draw you in, it'd last a week tops.

Baldurs Gate is still as enjoyable for me now as it was some 11 years back. Not many games can say that lol.

[LaceratorX]

@Grigeral Hey buddy, to each his own. I personally find WoW an enjoyable game, no need to hate on people with similar views. As for Baldur's Gate, it was a fantastic and engaging game the likes of which this generation of gaming will never see. Such a shame, to be honest, that games have to have good graphics to be good. What ever happened to the giant thing inside our skulls? Does that have no use anymore?

[LaceratorX]

@LaceratorX Although I DO see where you are coming from when you say it's an addiction. I may also have come off a bit too offended there, I meant nothing of it.

[Grigeral]

@LaceratorX Heh, I also didn't mean it so much as a hate rant. What I mean is that the game itself has little to 'enjoy'. It is 95% grind, the story, because of the nature of an MMO, is lacking.

I will admit that WoW comes into its own when you introduce the community. All I meant was that without the community, the game would grow dull incredibly quickly for the grand majority of people.

[TheNintentard]

@Kamfrenchie Do you know how long I've waited for someone to say that.

[seriouslyWeird]

lool this person got probably owned not even being able to beat first chapter

[Hubkaa]

Your mother?

[enderfild]

Right Planescape Torment is the best of the RPG but Baldur's Gate have second / third position but Dragon age is nice but quests are too long and have fuucked up story ... blah blah blah you are the only one wit da alistar blah blah blah only you can save the world !! blah blah blah

[enderfild]

Try the witcher :) its last years great work :)

[Hubkaa]

I know it kicks ass, it's one of few really great games from my country Poland and I'm pretty proud we can make such games. Right now I'm trying Mass Effect. RPG elements are pretty cool and everything, but it's GODDAMN ANNOYING that I have to retry one sequence ten times just because I can't save during ride. And I still haven't completed this part. But other than that-Like kotor, but with tpp-like fighting system.

[zarakhast]

If you found Baldur's Gate boring then I pity you : you have no taste. That's a shame for you. Dragon Age - I own a copy and I almost already wish I didn't, even though I've been a mug and paid for it already - is SHALLOW compared with BG. If BG bores you then that must mean that you're an idiot - simple as that ! You obviously prefer simpler things, just like a simpleton would. I wish you luck in your continuing existence as a simpleton.

[Hubkaa]

You are idiot. If difficulty of fights is ANYWHERE NEAR SIMPLE IN DRAGON AGE, then you have to be chuck norris. And the guy who has no taste is YOU. Planescape is quite similiar to BG, and it's nowhere near boring. So, it looks like I'm not "a simpleton", my friend. And now go die with your BG in grave.

[zarakhast]

chucknorris, from the posts I've read of his, knows his Baldur's Gate.

Six party members made for more complex and challenging combat. Also, D&D rules (which have been jettisoned for DA:O) were used. I haven't played DA :O yet but I already know it's not D&D based and that the max number of party members is down to 4. It's easy to work out that this is bound to limit what you can do in battles.

Bioware's stuff these days is overrated : living (and cashing in) on past glories.

[Hubkaa]

Maybe battles in DA:O aren't based on D&D, but believe me, they ARE complex and challenging far more than those in Baldur's Gate. (Anyone played Icewind Dale on hardest mode? It's something like that.)

[jerzkid87]

@Hubkaa planescape was so boring. you only had one character to play

[KyllerSza]

@jerzkid87 What? You know what you're talking about? Did you ever played this game? I'll bet you never left the first location...

[JadzkaAndegawenska]

@Hubkaa BG Cię nudzi? O_o

[Inszz]

Torment may have been the first of it's kind (i think?) but it's insane amount of dialog made it nowhere near as fun as BG in my opinion.

[Crust218]

Magnificent music.  Magnificent game.

[camelgoat]

Bladur's Gate is better than dragon age, it will always stay at the top of my fav games list! But Dragon age is a damn good game also! definatly in my top 5 of all time! kicks Oblivions ass!!

[6inScape]

They just don't make games like they used to. :(

GOD I hope Dragon age won't disappoint...

[ioannisdenton]

dragon age DEOS not dissaponit man... bioware lives and still kicks ass very time.

[Tomekkthegreat]

Too bad it feels more like a-thinking-man's-WoW then BG :(

[Nerusai]

This brings back fond memories. I still occasionally play the Baldur's Gate Trilogy (mod), and this music always puts shivers into my spine ^^

[archamandite]

i love this. baldur's gate had some of the best music ive ever heard in a game. like, nothing can compare to it.

candlekeep always reminded me of some sort of retirement home, with all of the old people and their random outbursts. especially in the inner walls of candlekeep, with gorion on the steps of the keep glancing around like a paranoid person and tethtoril running around in circles.

[Xadli]

Love this track!

There really is something special about Baldurs Gate 1, I've played it through like 6 times now on all difficulty levels. Even though being such a baldurs gate 1 fan, I can't get myself to play Baldurs gate 2 for some obscure reason.

I always stop playing before I even get somewhere in baldurs gate 2.

Doesn't matter though, Baldurs Gate 1 ROCKS!

[Nerusai]

Baldur's Gate 2 is really worth it, try combining it throught he Baldur's Gate Trilogy addon!

(Find it at spellholdstudios, or just search for it)

[Xadli]

Did some searching and I found it, and it really looks interesting. Though, will there really be any diffrence from just importing your characters from baldurs gate 1? There wasnt that much info. Because I've even made a multiplayer save and imported that into singleplayer to be able to have some of my other characters to join.

[Nerusai]

Yes, it creates a single world (on the BG2 game engine), where you can move around to however you like.

It also allows the addition of even more mods, creating an even bigger world for you to quest in! (Like Shadows over Soubar etc.)

Baldur's Gate Trilogy basically allows you to play Baldur's Gate on the BG2 engine, and you keep access to it all the time, it also provides transitions to the latter.

[Xadli]

Hm, sounds nice, I'll try it out sometime. Thanks!

[thepts]

I also prefer BG1, although BG2 was great too. It just appealed a bit to me that you start at level 1, with a very "un-adventurous" setting, the game feels quite boring.

Then at the end of the game you are a glorious hero in huge cities, facing fierce enemies. Perfect!

BG2 kinda starts where BG1 left off, so it's not got the same feeling of the game changing imo.

[Veggur1]

While playing the game i often went to Candlekeep even if i couldn´t get into the city just to hear that song

[Aekero]

wtb Baldur's Gate 3 with the same quality and feel of the first 2!

[CoztheSexyBeast666]

one of my favorite songs in Baulder's Gate. Thanks for uploading this man. Brings me back some good memorys playing this game. :)

[tsukijinakiyama]

nashkel carnival aswell :P see theamazing exploding oompah!

[cupofcustard]

Not forgetting Lord Binky the Buffoon!

[Kozor999]

they sure made great tracks back then

[YinYangTzu]

still do, just have to look for the right games

[FokusSsPL]

it's not candelkeep. that music is in Baldur's gate

[josda1000]

it is Candlekeep. you hear it in Candlekeep. Plus it's the name of the track, so it doesn't matter anyway.

[Dakedoom]

FokusSsPL is right, this song plays in Baldur's Gate, not Candlekeep. you only hear it when the narrator reads the prologue

[MariusCZ12]

best of all

[kalvhult]

indeed <3

[u184]

this song makes you feel... at home. :)

[Thecheckerchex]

i know huh. fcking love it. music in this game is so epic and emotional...