@sebastijanBelcic lol, its a 747. In a dual engine aircraft such as the 737, 757, 767, 777 etc, the engines are not placed that far out into the wing. This is certainly a 747
@Writeowl Conditions were pretty awful alright. We never found out exactly why the takeoff was rejected. Can't have been anything too serious anyway. Thanks for your comment.
thats no way near as bad when i was on a Jet2 flight from Rome the pilot was at his last point before 'rotate' and slammed on the breaks and i have no idea why but he must have hit the rudder pedal coz the damn plane slid all over the damn runway people where screaming babies where crying and all I thought was "what a d**k head now we'll have to wait 2 hours for the breaks to cool down -_- and I hope that's Sheppards pie in my boxers"
@spencer90912 So you were more bothered about having to wait for the "breaks" (or brakes, maybe?) to cool down, than you were about the safety of the aircraft? I wouldn't have you as a passenger if I were the captain...
we did this on a jet2 757 in heraklion at high speed the airport suddenly rejected the takeoff and we came to a halt and then exited the runway went down the taxiway lined up again and took off again!
My guess is the plane wasn't in the right configuration for take off. Even if your off by like 5 degrees on the flaps the take off warning will trigger. Won't hurt anything to take off with flaps off by 5 but the computer still will give the warning.
there mightve been an assymetrical (i believe its called) thrust problem. when youre in a big jet like that, the pilot always brings the engines up to 60-70% N1 to make sure all engines are spooling up properley, before the plane reaches is maximum thrust capabilities. if one engine has sinificantly more/less N1 percentage, this could cause too much yaw in latter runway takeoff and be potentially fatal. thats porbably what set off the warning and the captain didnt want to continue the takeoff.
@bratonabike its more dangerous at low speed not high speed. you have a minimum control speed on multi engine jets which you must reach for direction to be controllable in the event of asymetric thrust issues. rudder has less effect at lower speeds etc
@istvanklein Actually all electronic devices have to be turned off during takeoff and landing and it is against the law to disobey cabin crew orders. People just use cameras because cabin crews don't check
@767Dude You may be right. But it would be a shame if cabin crews were more stringent in enforcing the ban because it would mean no takeoff and landing videos here on YouTube... Anyway, the airlines themselves appear not to be worrying very much as they regularly allow crew members and even professional film makers to film in cockpits as commercially available flight DVDs testify.
@istvanklein Yeah I know what you mean, I myself have recorded landings and takeoffs but I would guess that electrical items with signals are more of a worry than cameras with the airlines.
This was probabily a windshear warning from predictive windshear! When the pilots advance the thrust lever the predictive windshear looks for a windshear condition.
In march 2008 the G-CIVJ rejected a takeoff at high speed at Heathrow because of two loud bangs were heard and flames out of the tailpipe Eng #4 were seen by passengers. When was your flight? One day after?? :-)
'This video is taken as a British Airways Boeing 747 (G-CIVJ) rejects takeoff in Cape Town. In the video you will hear the captain coming on the PA saying that they had a "slight takeoff warning". I never found out what the exact reason was for the abort.' - Well when the engines started roaring about to go down the runway, you seen all of that water.. this could be a risk to aircraft say the water blew in the engines.
@habbohotelnl They are desinged for large water intake esp flying through storms and heavy rain, i was most likely, the Aircraft hadnt reached the correct setting for take off, eg Flaps and trim...
@joepatroni77 That's what I thought hearing the captain. When take-off thrust is applied, and anything isn't properly configured for take-off, the "take-off configuration alert" is triggered. Either the blaring siren goes off - or it doesn't. Nothing in between. But keep the passengers happy calling it "slight". And since they straight went for another attempt, it looked like a simple config issue indeed.
i do get some noise in my headset with my phone on and having electronic devices turned off is required by federal law operating under certain part of the FARs
a camera does put out a slight electromagnetic field which can cause errors in the compass but the field is too weak to have any noticeable effect especialy since the camera is far away from the aircrafts instruments im always filming and taking pictures on my phone while flying ifr
It could be incorrect information inputed into the computer that's used now to calculate how much throttle to use so they don't waste fuel and cause extra noise.
Full take-off thrust was not set, it was a low speed abort. The brakes were not hot, so a subsequent take-off was effected a short time later. Nothing dramatic from a pilot's perspective.
A takeoff warnig is when an alarm sounds when the captain sets the plane to takeoff thrust... The alarm means that something is not set correctly for takeoff... Mabey it was trim or flap setting... Could be anything
Sounds like it would have been an engine temperature warning or a hydraulic temp warning, possibly could have been a cabin pressure warner as it is necessary to set it to auto before takeoff roll. just going on my experience flying A320.
The correct aeronautical terminology is "abort a take-off" and there are several factors in causing it. Engine malfunction, bird strikes, systems failure (hydraulics), fire, passenger heart attack - you name it! Anything that may cause the plane to be unable to become airborne and/or complete the flight safely is good enough reason to abort the take-off...
My thoughts: They are rarely done. To be legal, the aircraft must be able to accelerate to V1(lift nosewheel) and stop before the runway end. If it cannot stop, it must be able to continue the takeoff on the remaining engine(s). Before V1, engines idle, brakes and spoilers max. Reverse thrust is only used if all engines with reverse thrust are operative. In case of a twin, reverse thrust with one engine out would have the tendency to rotate the plane around it's longitudinal axis.
By the way the captain said "a slight takeoff warning," i can assume that they experienced a takeoff config warning.... But why? Was the flaps setting supposed to be 20 instead of the 10 shown in the vid?
If I know the AC like I think I do - Most common config warning error is either 1. Flap or 2. Stab Trim - this case is a case of Stab Trim not set correctly - Stab Trim changes depending on cargo, passenger loads, fuel etc etc
@umakemeugly Hahahaha!!! There was many time that I did'nt laugh so much!!! Great comment, and great humer sense!!! My english is bad, but I'm sure you'll understand me pretty well... Greetings.
A Rejected Take-Off can be for a number of reasons, believe me the crew of a British Airways 747 would not set the flaps incorrectly, even if they were set incorrectly, all that would happen would be a conisderable amount of drag would be induced. The captain said it was a warning, i have experienced a rejected take-off due to an engine warning light. As another viewer has said, a camera has nothing to do with it. Also highly unlikely that it was another aircraft on the runway.
i was on BA somthing from LAX to heathrow and when we were on the taxi i kept saying to the guy next to me ' i dont want to alarm tyou but these engines sound cloggy,not right at all'
so we spooled,got to about 80 knots and then we were hard on the brakes,spoilers and reversers
i think someone left something on on a stove enough of this aviation rif raf :-).. but I think it might be too much water coming down on the wings for them to give lift..maybe
Have a read on Microburst activity, I think you'll find windshear can be caused by large downdrafts of air. Not suggesting this caused the reject in question, but I wouldn't flame someone when you clearly have no idea either.
@noob2uber I don't know what the reason was. Some of the other comments in this video have some suggestions as to what it may have been. Incorrect flap setting or something like that seems to be the general suggestion as to what was the cause.
@radar050976 Incorrect flap settings would have nothing to do with it, could be a whole range of things. Flaps are preset and selected when you pushback from the gate or taxing. The Captain would not even put the aircraft on the runway with the wrong flap setting.
@radar050976 There also could have been a aircraft that did not clear a cross taxiway or even a previous jet taking off having not cleared, birds etc. I would assume it would be something of that nature because the pilot was going to line up for another immediate attempt. nice vid BTW.
@radar050976 Whoever said "incorrect flap settings" was misguided. The pilot already know what to select for flaps, based on payload, runway length and weather. Normal setting is 10 to 15 degrees. These flaps appear properly configured.
@noob2uber Hello, EVERYTHING Pilots notes that might put at risk the take off, makes them to decide to abort take off. This case, since it was cloudy and rainy, they might have listen a weather radar advisroy called "wind shear"; wich is a strong downdraft of air comming from clouds that MUST be avoided by all means due to extreme danger it represents for Air safety. Hope i have cleared a little your question.
@SSMEXGS A wind shear is not a downdraft. You need to stop passing your self off as a pilot. There are many reason why he decided to abort. And that is a correct term. I have aborted because my eng. fire light started to flicker on and off on my number four eng. You could also show a low fuel, oil pressure reading. You could go on and on so everyone best bet is to leave the subject alone since you only be guessing. My son, who is on you tube daily, asked me to comment on this.
@tomellis6680 Hey kid. Please learn to read. I don't know where that 777 came from, nor did I ever said I was a captain of a 777. I am a retired 747-400 pilot. Also, my son is the one that is always on here and he asked me to respond. This is getting silly having to respond to kids that can't read.
@SylentCure Most likey it was a engine problem or something to due with power Due to the fact that not long after he was going to full power did he shut it down Flaps are Pre set before engines are rev'ed Not a cell phone or flaps, weather, 2nd guess might be traffic that would set off a alarm
@noob2uber the takeoff as the captain explained was aborted due to the takeoff warning, means that something in the plane wasnt set for takeoff that could be flaps spoilers brakes, etc
ahh I like the way you react. Nowadays most people will answer like they hope my mom wil die of cancer and I'm an asshole etc and finaly there's somebody who just says ''you're right thanks''
@DamnPilot well he's not a pilot, therefore does not need to use the same terminology. your comment reminds me of a joke. "how do you know when there is a pilot in a room full of people? he will tell you what he does".
Slight take off warning??? Does that mean the capt f..d up and tried to take off without clearance??:) If it was mantenance, the'd be going back to the gate...
@plsniper Mmm, I'm guessing they probably got something appear on eicas which wasn't expected. As they were early on in the takeoff roll, it would make sense to RTO and check it out!
I find that hard to believe.All systems are checked by mntc before the crew even gets on board.If pilots get a warning on a T/O roll, they go back to the gate and have mntce deal with it.To go and have another try on T/O means taxiing back to the runway, waiting in line behind other a/c, getting another clearance for T/O and if it happens again, the crew just wasted a bunch of time and fuel. Sounds to me more like T/O roll with no clearance. Pilots make a lot of mistakes like that on the radio.
Thousants of people record landings and takeoffs, today I had a similar incident with a Dash 8 Q400 of Olympic Air, that aborted due to an indication in the cockpit. I have uploaded it in my channel recording with a mobile on flight mode which is permitted by Olympic. If there was the slightest possibility of cameras and phones to be that dangerous it would not be permitted to carry them in the aircraft at all
@lawrenceworkgrave You can call, SMS and do whatever on your phone and not affect any of the plane's instruments... That aircraft myth have been BUSTED.
The Mythbusters did try to do it, although they failed to do the "How much would it take" part of that myth though, but 5-6 cellphones calling at the same time didn't do didly squat.
why is ther so many comments saying that the camera caused this? I am a pilot and I know for a fact that no electonic device causes problems except for a phone that is receiving a call or transmitting one can interfere with the radio communications but this is still only minor and its the same interference heard when held to a normal fm/am radio. Nothing else can affect our systems other than a magnet!!
@brettv8 good to see the noob brigade is out in force. I used to work for a major avionics company and i spent my days fixing mainly radar, HSI's and RADAlts. A video camera WILL NOT cause an aircrafts systems to malfunction and for that matter neither will a mobile or any passive listening device (AM/FM radio etc).
@ryr737 Everyone whining about turning on camera on board is forbidden should really read your comment. That way, they can live in peace instead of whining about what is not true. Because since I also film take-offs and landings I got offended by their comments in other video saying that camera should be turned off during take-off and landing. Your comment is great, I hope everyone can see it.
@ryr737 You sound like a twat 'Mr Pilot', your TRYING to hard to sound intellectual. If you really are a pilot you should know that there's other devices such as personal radio's & laptops which have bluetooth & wireless fidelity that also cause interference. I like the way you said, "I know for A FACT that no electonic device causes problems except for a phone" Haha, electonic is that a new drink mixed with battery acid! Why do people pretend to be something they're not.... : /
@Don70rEnZ0 Dont call me a twat first of all, and i am not trying to hard at all i could not care less what you believe or not. I began first working as an avionic engineer then a systems engineer then progressed onto working for an Irish airline as a pilot, if you dont believe it i dont really care. Also when has a wifi system ever interfered with aircraft systems?? first i heard of it and bluetooth for that matter so you my friend have to get your facts straight!!
@ryr737 Your definately a certified twat. Listen and learn knowledge sunshine. Boeing and Honeywell (Phase 3) Avionics claim that display units used by pilots can experience “blanking” when exposed to Wi-Fi equipment operating at “elevated power levels”. There's the answer and today you have learned something new. Source - Flightglobal(.)com.
@ryr737 Face it mate, most of the general public doesnt know crap about aircraft or aircraft ops and doesnt give a damn at all. They only care about ticket price, meal choice and leaving on time.
And cameras certainly do not interefere with anything. Check out videos posted by SuredT. He's a KLM pilot that has posted a dozen vidoes from the cockpit of his landings or takeoffs.
Electronic devices dont interfere with aircraft operations. I've read FAA studies that estimate 2-3 outgoing phone calls made from airplanes per flight above the USA. There are two reasons why passengers are told to turn them off. 1 - there is no way to prove conclusively that there is absolutely no effect at all on the instruments in the aircraft. Better safe than sorry. 2 - most acceidents occur on takeoff or during landing. Passengers need to be aware of whats going on and not on their phones
@NikitaPilotMen Yeh I agree. As soon as they spool up it shouldn't take that long for it to be at 80kts, looks like it was slipping due to the layer of water on the runway.
@colesy93 Yea but hydroplaning on the runway does nothing when accelerating. Traction only matters on a plane when your slowing down. The wheels aren't pushing the aircraft.
maybe warning as in a take off configuration warning with a master warning or caution light that usally indicates the plane isn't quite ready for take off yet
My first commercial flight as a passenger started with two aborted takeoffs due to a malfunctioning breaker switch. I will never forget that first feeling.
There are many plausible reasons for it to be aborted. Here are two I thought of.
1. Pilot forgot to do some control checks or missed out some points in the checklist. Quite unlikely.
2. Turbulence occurring over takeoff or climb zone which can cause problems when taking off.
The latter is more likely. But in aviation, minor problems could also lead to hazardous situations so if pilots find little problems, they'll just abort the takeoff for safety and redo the procedures.
It cannot be his camera as there are no electrical systems that change status on the aircraft from before and during the engines thrust increase. It would have had to be a pressure, temperature or engine fan speed complication. I don't know whether people know this, but you can get your camera approved by most airlines as an allowance to turn your camera on during take-off and landing or when the seat belt sign is on with some airlines. Only few cameras interfere with aircraft instruments.
I found out the reason for switching off ALL electronics before take off and landing on a recent flight. It's because the crew want you to have all your senses aware in case of an emergency, because take off and landing are where most accidents happen, it has nothing to 'electronic interference'.
Configured wrong. They could've throttled up with brakes applied to test that before hand.
ke3wh 5 days ago
this is not a 747, I think its a 737 NG
sebastijanBelcic 1 week ago
@sebastijanBelcic It is a 747. I think I'd know. I flew on it for 11 hours from Cape Town to London!!
radar050976 1 week ago 11
@radar050976 yea, I don't think you can do 11 hours on a 737-any LOL
WrexIsGreat 1 week ago
@sebastijanBelcic lol, its a 747. In a dual engine aircraft such as the 737, 757, 767, 777 etc, the engines are not placed that far out into the wing. This is certainly a 747
cajunvoodu 5 days ago
@sebastijanBelcic you can see engine 4 meaning this is a 4 engined aircraft. 737s have 2. also BA Opperate the 744 from cape and dont even own a 73
benpowell001 5 days ago
@benpowell001 they do have 737
hoodie6600 4 days ago
@hoodie6600 Yes you're correct they do. They operate 19 737-400 aircraft, predominantly operating out of Gatwick.
radar050976 4 days ago
@sebastijanBelcic Take a look at the reflection below the wing - 737's don't have outer engines - that's a 747 or I'm the Pope.
Bless you! <|:-)=;
EddieDickJim 4 days ago
@sebastijanBelcic since when does a 737 have 4 engines?? dumbass..
LeetHackTutorials 4 days ago
@sebastijanBelcic 2 engines on one wing
this must be either a b747 an a430 or an a380
loking at the wing structure anyone can guess it's b747
SuperVivek9999 1 day ago
Looks like horrible conditions . . .
Writeowl 4 weeks ago
@Writeowl Conditions were pretty awful alright. We never found out exactly why the takeoff was rejected. Can't have been anything too serious anyway. Thanks for your comment.
radar050976 4 weeks ago
Probably the takeoff config warning caused the RTO
ThePilotchef 1 month ago
thats no way near as bad when i was on a Jet2 flight from Rome the pilot was at his last point before 'rotate' and slammed on the breaks and i have no idea why but he must have hit the rudder pedal coz the damn plane slid all over the damn runway people where screaming babies where crying and all I thought was "what a d**k head now we'll have to wait 2 hours for the breaks to cool down -_- and I hope that's Sheppards pie in my boxers"
spencer90912 1 month ago 13
@spencer90912 Wow, sounds dramatic! Hope it was Sheppard's Pie ;)!
radar050976 1 month ago
@spencer90912 So you were more bothered about having to wait for the "breaks" (or brakes, maybe?) to cool down, than you were about the safety of the aircraft? I wouldn't have you as a passenger if I were the captain...
md69cs 3 weeks ago
@spencer90912 This made me laugh big time!
Quiksilverien 1 week ago
bad flaps configuration?
agusamadeus 1 month ago
cool filming what was the prb
M0JRA 1 month ago
@M0JRA Thanks. I don't know, we were never given the reason. The only information we got is what you hear from the captain in the clip.
radar050976 1 month ago
Probably forgot a checklist item and got a warning. lol.
jmr604 2 months ago
we did this on a jet2 757 in heraklion at high speed the airport suddenly rejected the takeoff and we came to a halt and then exited the runway went down the taxiway lined up again and took off again!
jbransby98 2 months ago
ohh nooo did you get on another plane after?
piannolady 3 months ago
@piannolady No, we took off on the same plane 5 minutes later without further incident.
radar050976 3 months ago
I did an RTO in Cessna 177b. Was the RTO scary?
nancycucesharp 5 months ago
@nancycucesharp No not scary. It was such low speed it was nothing really. We took off without incident about 5 mins later.
radar050976 5 months ago
My guess is the plane wasn't in the right configuration for take off. Even if your off by like 5 degrees on the flaps the take off warning will trigger. Won't hurt anything to take off with flaps off by 5 but the computer still will give the warning.
dcccapfan 6 months ago
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crazysexycool180 6 months ago
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mstockwell100 7 months ago
Did you take off with the same plane? :)
juuliuuz 7 months ago 4
@juuliuuz Yes we did - about 5 mins later. Link to it in the video.
radar050976 7 months ago
I love the rain! and when the flaps open! all the water comes out!
BL0WUPFISH 7 months ago
there mightve been an assymetrical (i believe its called) thrust problem. when youre in a big jet like that, the pilot always brings the engines up to 60-70% N1 to make sure all engines are spooling up properley, before the plane reaches is maximum thrust capabilities. if one engine has sinificantly more/less N1 percentage, this could cause too much yaw in latter runway takeoff and be potentially fatal. thats porbably what set off the warning and the captain didnt want to continue the takeoff.
bratonabike 7 months ago
@bratonabike its more dangerous at low speed not high speed. you have a minimum control speed on multi engine jets which you must reach for direction to be controllable in the event of asymetric thrust issues. rudder has less effect at lower speeds etc
ramboormark 5 months ago
@prutyladyd07 Cameras are allowed. Only devices that send or receive electromagnetic signals must be switched off.
istvanklein 7 months ago
@istvanklein Actually all electronic devices have to be turned off during takeoff and landing and it is against the law to disobey cabin crew orders. People just use cameras because cabin crews don't check
767Dude 7 months ago
@767Dude You may be right. But it would be a shame if cabin crews were more stringent in enforcing the ban because it would mean no takeoff and landing videos here on YouTube... Anyway, the airlines themselves appear not to be worrying very much as they regularly allow crew members and even professional film makers to film in cockpits as commercially available flight DVDs testify.
istvanklein 7 months ago
@istvanklein Yeah I know what you mean, I myself have recorded landings and takeoffs but I would guess that electrical items with signals are more of a worry than cameras with the airlines.
767Dude 7 months ago
Tailpipe? Lol
komrad1983 7 months ago
This was probabily a windshear warning from predictive windshear! When the pilots advance the thrust lever the predictive windshear looks for a windshear condition.
CmteJumbo 7 months ago
In march 2008 the G-CIVJ rejected a takeoff at high speed at Heathrow because of two loud bangs were heard and flames out of the tailpipe Eng #4 were seen by passengers. When was your flight? One day after?? :-)
HamburgMobile 8 months ago
@HamburgMobile No this was taken in November 2007.
radar050976 8 months ago
"slight warning" you can stop if you want.... slams breaks!
sirtazza 8 months ago
'This video is taken as a British Airways Boeing 747 (G-CIVJ) rejects takeoff in Cape Town. In the video you will hear the captain coming on the PA saying that they had a "slight takeoff warning". I never found out what the exact reason was for the abort.' - Well when the engines started roaring about to go down the runway, you seen all of that water.. this could be a risk to aircraft say the water blew in the engines.
habbohotelnl 8 months ago
@habbohotelnl They are desinged for large water intake esp flying through storms and heavy rain, i was most likely, the Aircraft hadnt reached the correct setting for take off, eg Flaps and trim...
gosst60 7 months ago
I had that one time 747 as well, but it was fine because we got a 24hour delay and I was in FLORIDA so I wasn't complaining :)
XxL33ZOxX 8 months ago
A "slight" warning? WTF is that? Either you have a warning or no warning.
joepatroni77 8 months ago 9
@joepatroni77 Sorry I didn't get a chance to quiz the Captain about it ;)!
radar050976 8 months ago 36
@joepatroni77 That's what I thought hearing the captain. When take-off thrust is applied, and anything isn't properly configured for take-off, the "take-off configuration alert" is triggered. Either the blaring siren goes off - or it doesn't. Nothing in between. But keep the passengers happy calling it "slight". And since they straight went for another attempt, it looked like a simple config issue indeed.
madmail1 7 months ago
@joepatroni77 Exactly
L1verpool10 6 months ago
I have read that you shouldn't start by rain because of aquaplaning...!
FSAG007 9 months ago
Lmao he probs forgot to set the flaps. that warning definitely gives you a fright
appleglory 9 months ago
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wrestlemania61 10 months ago
i do get some noise in my headset with my phone on and having electronic devices turned off is required by federal law operating under certain part of the FARs
Joe22822 10 months ago
a camera does put out a slight electromagnetic field which can cause errors in the compass but the field is too weak to have any noticeable effect especialy since the camera is far away from the aircrafts instruments im always filming and taking pictures on my phone while flying ifr
Joe22822 10 months ago
is this your video?? ive seen it on a few pages
Aviationnation10 10 months ago 2
@Aviationnation10 Yes it is my video. I took it about 3 years ago.
radar050976 10 months ago 19
@radar050976 aw cool some people stole it how do you get the symbol at the start and end
Aviationnation10 10 months ago
@Aviationnation10 Really, what sites ? Just copy and paste the symbol. Simple as that.
radar050976 10 months ago 2
The flaps do seem a bit too open for a takeoff, I don't know for sure as I don't fly 747's. Too big for me :/
666megadeth666m 10 months ago
It could be incorrect information inputed into the computer that's used now to calculate how much throttle to use so they don't waste fuel and cause extra noise.
op3l 11 months ago
@op3l it's more likely to be a takeoff config warning
meaning that something is set incorrectly that will affect takeoff if not set correctly (eg. flaps/slats)
the throttle is controlled by the pilots on take off as you need maximum thrust output at takeoff to get into the air
lyokoBSTN 11 months ago
Full take-off thrust was not set, it was a low speed abort. The brakes were not hot, so a subsequent take-off was effected a short time later. Nothing dramatic from a pilot's perspective.
HPG747 11 months ago
A takeoff warnig is when an alarm sounds when the captain sets the plane to takeoff thrust... The alarm means that something is not set correctly for takeoff... Mabey it was trim or flap setting... Could be anything
aircraftfreak737 11 months ago
Hey good Vid.
How long did you have to wait before you took off after the rejected take off
AIRANORAK 11 months ago
@AIRANORAK Only about 5 minutes.
radar050976 11 months ago
Sounds like it would have been an engine temperature warning or a hydraulic temp warning, possibly could have been a cabin pressure warner as it is necessary to set it to auto before takeoff roll. just going on my experience flying A320.
mstockwell100 11 months ago
The correct aeronautical terminology is "abort a take-off" and there are several factors in causing it. Engine malfunction, bird strikes, systems failure (hydraulics), fire, passenger heart attack - you name it! Anything that may cause the plane to be unable to become airborne and/or complete the flight safely is good enough reason to abort the take-off...
SOURCES: Airbus A340 pilot.
devrajvarma 1 year ago 2
My thoughts: They are rarely done. To be legal, the aircraft must be able to accelerate to V1(lift nosewheel) and stop before the runway end. If it cannot stop, it must be able to continue the takeoff on the remaining engine(s). Before V1, engines idle, brakes and spoilers max. Reverse thrust is only used if all engines with reverse thrust are operative. In case of a twin, reverse thrust with one engine out would have the tendency to rotate the plane around it's longitudinal axis.
devrajvarma 1 year ago
By the way the captain said "a slight takeoff warning," i can assume that they experienced a takeoff config warning.... But why? Was the flaps setting supposed to be 20 instead of the 10 shown in the vid?
englandish43 1 year ago
If I know the AC like I think I do - Most common config warning error is either 1. Flap or 2. Stab Trim - this case is a case of Stab Trim not set correctly - Stab Trim changes depending on cargo, passenger loads, fuel etc etc
tomellis6680 1 year ago
THATS WHAT THEY SAY WHEN THE PILOT FORGET HIS WALLET!!!! xD
EstebanCRC 1 year ago
im guessing it was the aileron because at 0:53 the pilot moves it so it may have been unresponsive
tomibewi 1 year ago
@tomibewi I don't think so, the pilot probably raised the speedbrakes, and the control surfaces should have been checked during taxi.
lolvks 1 year ago
-cockpit voice recorder transcript-
Captain: allright we are ready to leave this shit hole!
F/O: damn right!
-engines spool up-
Captain: here we go!, I can't wait to get airborne so I can drink a beer...
F/O: OOOHHHH SHITTTT.....I knew I was forgeting something...SHIT!!!
Captain:WUT? you forgot the booze? you F$%%@#%&%*(&^$#@...
F?O: sorry Cap... just pull up and I get you a case of Corona instead of bud light!
Captain: Now you talkin'.. just let me tell this fools we going back..
umakemeugly 1 year ago 7
@umakemeugly Hahahaha!!! There was many time that I did'nt laugh so much!!! Great comment, and great humer sense!!! My english is bad, but I'm sure you'll understand me pretty well... Greetings.
Gerardius 7 months ago
A Rejected Take-Off can be for a number of reasons, believe me the crew of a British Airways 747 would not set the flaps incorrectly, even if they were set incorrectly, all that would happen would be a conisderable amount of drag would be induced. The captain said it was a warning, i have experienced a rejected take-off due to an engine warning light. As another viewer has said, a camera has nothing to do with it. Also highly unlikely that it was another aircraft on the runway.
:)
flyinabove 1 year ago
wasn't a flap setting problem. The flaps are in same position in the second takeoff attempt.
AMT4245 1 year ago 2
Love the sound
doccu 1 year ago
whats the problem
pricelessppp 1 year ago
do you suppose since the runway is wet the warning could be.... hydro"plane"ing HAHA! someone had to make the joke...
jonnyfaux 1 year ago 3
I wonder if there was air traffic ahead by mistake and the tower radioed the pilots to reject?
king7wood 1 year ago
this is what happens when you dont turn off your electronics :)
jtomlins 1 year ago
i was on BA somthing from LAX to heathrow and when we were on the taxi i kept saying to the guy next to me ' i dont want to alarm tyou but these engines sound cloggy,not right at all'
so we spooled,got to about 80 knots and then we were hard on the brakes,spoilers and reversers
we hasd aborted
boeingnerd77 1 year ago
i think someone left something on on a stove enough of this aviation rif raf :-).. but I think it might be too much water coming down on the wings for them to give lift..maybe
sirArchitect 1 year ago
@Sioux0863
Have a read on Microburst activity, I think you'll find windshear can be caused by large downdrafts of air. Not suggesting this caused the reject in question, but I wouldn't flame someone when you clearly have no idea either.
FireInTheSkies 1 year ago
Emm i think the captain doesn't complete the FMC setup . So that might be the cause . This is just a suggestion . Might not be true ..
FiqoNans 1 year ago
та да погодка не вдугу)))
oksana160282 1 year ago
What causes rejected take-off? the wet ground?
noob2uber 1 year ago
@noob2uber I don't know what the reason was. Some of the other comments in this video have some suggestions as to what it may have been. Incorrect flap setting or something like that seems to be the general suggestion as to what was the cause.
radar050976 1 year ago
@radar050976 birds, other traffic
yoyoyoyoshua 1 year ago
@radar050976 why do you think wrong flap setting? 20 degrees as i can see there is a very common T/O setting
joshuan542 1 year ago
@radar050976 flaps are deployed, although they deploy them even more for the second try, maybe a computer miscalculation?
harold562 1 year ago
@radar050976 Incorrect flap settings would have nothing to do with it, could be a whole range of things. Flaps are preset and selected when you pushback from the gate or taxing. The Captain would not even put the aircraft on the runway with the wrong flap setting.
D5Tweddle 1 year ago
@radar050976 There also could have been a aircraft that did not clear a cross taxiway or even a previous jet taking off having not cleared, birds etc. I would assume it would be something of that nature because the pilot was going to line up for another immediate attempt. nice vid BTW.
deltabtry 1 year ago
@radar050976 Whoever said "incorrect flap settings" was misguided. The pilot already know what to select for flaps, based on payload, runway length and weather. Normal setting is 10 to 15 degrees. These flaps appear properly configured.
SenorSpode 11 months ago 4
@noob2uber Hello, EVERYTHING Pilots notes that might put at risk the take off, makes them to decide to abort take off. This case, since it was cloudy and rainy, they might have listen a weather radar advisroy called "wind shear"; wich is a strong downdraft of air comming from clouds that MUST be avoided by all means due to extreme danger it represents for Air safety. Hope i have cleared a little your question.
Capt. B757/A320
SSMEXGS 1 year ago
@SSMEXGS wind shear is not a down draft. You must be a flight sim 757/A320 captain.
sioux0863 1 year ago 2
@SSMEXGS A wind shear is not a downdraft. You need to stop passing your self off as a pilot. There are many reason why he decided to abort. And that is a correct term. I have aborted because my eng. fire light started to flicker on and off on my number four eng. You could also show a low fuel, oil pressure reading. You could go on and on so everyone best bet is to leave the subject alone since you only be guessing. My son, who is on you tube daily, asked me to comment on this.
CaptainArt777 1 year ago 2
@CaptainArt777 and your a captain of a 777? number four engine - pratice what you preach
tomellis6680 1 year ago
@tomellis6680 Hey kid. Please learn to read. I don't know where that 777 came from, nor did I ever said I was a captain of a 777. I am a retired 747-400 pilot. Also, my son is the one that is always on here and he asked me to respond. This is getting silly having to respond to kids that can't read.
CaptainArt777 1 year ago
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jtomlins 1 year ago
@noob2uber thats what happens when you dont turn your lectronics off :)
jtomlins 1 year ago
@noob2uber ATC instruction, another AC on the runway or a problem with the Aircraft.
pidgeblev 1 year ago
@noob2uber Weather, Air-Traffic, and Many other reasons.
SylentCure 1 year ago
@SylentCure Most likey it was a engine problem or something to due with power Due to the fact that not long after he was going to full power did he shut it down Flaps are Pre set before engines are rev'ed Not a cell phone or flaps, weather, 2nd guess might be traffic that would set off a alarm
freakyflow 1 year ago
@noob2uber the takeoff as the captain explained was aborted due to the takeoff warning, means that something in the plane wasnt set for takeoff that could be flaps spoilers brakes, etc
Mateusfsxrc3phun 11 months ago
to wet to take off and sliding around to much.
MrTrainFan3985 1 year ago
@MrTrainFan3985 nope, take of config warning is more likely, they might have missed somthing in the check list, or somthing didn't set properly
theres no way rain like the shower in the video would stop a flight, it would have to be so bad that wou couldn't see the taxi way in the background
lyokoBSTN 1 year ago
its called rejected takeoff not aborted takeoff :) btw
gamingassults 1 year ago
nice vid,
just for next time, we pilots call it 'Rejected Take-off' not 'Aborted' ;)
DamnPilot 1 year ago
@DamnPilot Thanks. Change made.
radar050976 1 year ago 4
@radar050976
ahh I like the way you react. Nowadays most people will answer like they hope my mom wil die of cancer and I'm an asshole etc and finaly there's somebody who just says ''you're right thanks''
my compliments
DamnPilot 1 year ago 7
@DamnPilot No problem. Glad to correct any inaccuracies. Just hope others enjoy my videos as much as enjoy filming them.
radar050976 1 year ago 18
@DamnPilot your not a pilot
rockhopper123452 1 year ago
@rockhopper123452
I'm glider pilot and we have rejected take-offs as well ;). All my instructors are B744, A330, F16 etc pilots so I learn a lot of them.
Person next to me is B737 pilot.
Youtube account: flyinthenetherlands
DamnPilot 1 year ago
@DamnPilot well he's not a pilot, therefore does not need to use the same terminology. your comment reminds me of a joke. "how do you know when there is a pilot in a room full of people? he will tell you what he does".
KSharp320 11 months ago 2
@KSharp320 How can you tell its a youtube comment? because they had nothing to say and they said it to loudly. :) ( yes i am a hipocrite )
howardgreenwood 11 months ago
@howardgreenwood i think you misunderstood
KSharp320 11 months ago
Be glad to have that kind of pilot better to abort a takeoff than ignore and try anyway
TheGlobalflight 1 year ago
Maybe another plane was on the runway to slow?
sdgsdgsdgsd3 1 year ago
I hate Takeoff and landing scary times.
nuurgee 1 year ago
Slight take off warning??? Does that mean the capt f..d up and tried to take off without clearance??:) If it was mantenance, the'd be going back to the gate...
plsniper 1 year ago
@plsniper Mmm, I'm guessing they probably got something appear on eicas which wasn't expected. As they were early on in the takeoff roll, it would make sense to RTO and check it out!
tjf4375 1 year ago
I find that hard to believe.All systems are checked by mntc before the crew even gets on board.If pilots get a warning on a T/O roll, they go back to the gate and have mntce deal with it.To go and have another try on T/O means taxiing back to the runway, waiting in line behind other a/c, getting another clearance for T/O and if it happens again, the crew just wasted a bunch of time and fuel. Sounds to me more like T/O roll with no clearance. Pilots make a lot of mistakes like that on the radio.
plsniper 1 year ago
@plsniper Yes, now I think of it non-critical eicas alerts are probably supressed during takeoff roll anyway so you're probably right.
tjf4375 1 year ago
something like that happened to me in Bogota onboard a 737-800 and as we turned off the rwy there was an MD-11 on the same runway...quite a view...
lealowo 1 year ago
i think the aft left falange broke because the zipededo was engulfed in flame
PuffMac 1 year ago
Thousants of people record landings and takeoffs, today I had a similar incident with a Dash 8 Q400 of Olympic Air, that aborted due to an indication in the cockpit. I have uploaded it in my channel recording with a mobile on flight mode which is permitted by Olympic. If there was the slightest possibility of cameras and phones to be that dangerous it would not be permitted to carry them in the aircraft at all
lawrenceworkgrave 1 year ago
@lawrenceworkgrave You can call, SMS and do whatever on your phone and not affect any of the plane's instruments... That aircraft myth have been BUSTED.
The Mythbusters did try to do it, although they failed to do the "How much would it take" part of that myth though, but 5-6 cellphones calling at the same time didn't do didly squat.
CMDRSweeper 1 year ago
Look at the spoiler go up right before the CA started to talk. That should not have happened.
ejuoi 1 year ago
Was the Runway all flooded?
schildgen1 1 year ago
why is ther so many comments saying that the camera caused this? I am a pilot and I know for a fact that no electonic device causes problems except for a phone that is receiving a call or transmitting one can interfere with the radio communications but this is still only minor and its the same interference heard when held to a normal fm/am radio. Nothing else can affect our systems other than a magnet!!
ryr737 1 year ago 48
@ryr737 so true sir, still told to say it interferes with 'navigational equipment' haha.
AviationHD1 1 year ago
@ryr737 It must have been a camera for causing rejected take off! Just like cell phones that cause all the petrol station fires!
brettv8 1 year ago
Finish school before talking bullshit?
A camera sending out signals? lmao!
ryr737 is right :)
GhostShell2007 1 year ago
@GhostShell2007 I was being SARCASTIC.
brettv8 1 year ago
@brettv8 good to see the noob brigade is out in force. I used to work for a major avionics company and i spent my days fixing mainly radar, HSI's and RADAlts. A video camera WILL NOT cause an aircrafts systems to malfunction and for that matter neither will a mobile or any passive listening device (AM/FM radio etc).
hsvenforcer 1 year ago
@ryr737 Everyone whining about turning on camera on board is forbidden should really read your comment. That way, they can live in peace instead of whining about what is not true. Because since I also film take-offs and landings I got offended by their comments in other video saying that camera should be turned off during take-off and landing. Your comment is great, I hope everyone can see it.
raykrislianggi 1 year ago 2
@ryr737 You sound like a twat 'Mr Pilot', your TRYING to hard to sound intellectual. If you really are a pilot you should know that there's other devices such as personal radio's & laptops which have bluetooth & wireless fidelity that also cause interference. I like the way you said, "I know for A FACT that no electonic device causes problems except for a phone" Haha, electonic is that a new drink mixed with battery acid! Why do people pretend to be something they're not.... : /
Don70rEnZ0 10 months ago
@Don70rEnZ0 Dont call me a twat first of all, and i am not trying to hard at all i could not care less what you believe or not. I began first working as an avionic engineer then a systems engineer then progressed onto working for an Irish airline as a pilot, if you dont believe it i dont really care. Also when has a wifi system ever interfered with aircraft systems?? first i heard of it and bluetooth for that matter so you my friend have to get your facts straight!!
ryr737 9 months ago
@ryr737 Your definately a certified twat. Listen and learn knowledge sunshine. Boeing and Honeywell (Phase 3) Avionics claim that display units used by pilots can experience “blanking” when exposed to Wi-Fi equipment operating at “elevated power levels”. There's the answer and today you have learned something new. Source - Flightglobal(.)com.
Don70rEnZ0 9 months ago
@ryr737 Face it mate, most of the general public doesnt know crap about aircraft or aircraft ops and doesnt give a damn at all. They only care about ticket price, meal choice and leaving on time.
KimmurielBaenre 9 months ago
@KimmurielBaenre don't forget about lost luggage, that's probably the largest next to crashing
roofy2k 8 months ago
The poor captain will never hear the end of it from the anti-abortion activists now.
lago4 1 year ago
I believe it was a Takeoff Configuration warning as he said they had a slight takeoff warning
Flyglobespan93 1 year ago
wut kind off plane is that?
tkrohn11 1 year ago
@tkrohn11 Boeing 747-400
istvanklein 1 year ago
And cameras certainly do not interefere with anything. Check out videos posted by SuredT. He's a KLM pilot that has posted a dozen vidoes from the cockpit of his landings or takeoffs.
nano4288 1 year ago
Electronic devices dont interfere with aircraft operations. I've read FAA studies that estimate 2-3 outgoing phone calls made from airplanes per flight above the USA. There are two reasons why passengers are told to turn them off. 1 - there is no way to prove conclusively that there is absolutely no effect at all on the instruments in the aircraft. Better safe than sorry. 2 - most acceidents occur on takeoff or during landing. Passengers need to be aware of whats going on and not on their phones
nano4288 1 year ago
Damn it jerry didn't I tell you to use the bathroom before we left!
goingtobeapilot 1 year ago
That means, There maybe another airplane taxiing in the across the runway, or some traffic or a car on the runway.
AirCanada04 1 year ago
That happened cuz the runway was too wet for take off. I think so! ;)
NikitaPilotMen 1 year ago
@NikitaPilotMen Yeh I agree. As soon as they spool up it shouldn't take that long for it to be at 80kts, looks like it was slipping due to the layer of water on the runway.
colesy93 1 year ago
@colesy93 What exactly was slipping lol....
MrCrazyfucker123 1 year ago
@MrCrazyfucker123 Look up 'hydroplaning'
colesy93 1 year ago
@colesy93 Yea but hydroplaning on the runway does nothing when accelerating. Traction only matters on a plane when your slowing down. The wheels aren't pushing the aircraft.
MrCrazyfucker123 1 year ago
@MrCrazyfucker123 Actually yeah I guess that is true. Plus those tyres will be suitable for that condition anyway nowadays. My apologies.
colesy93 1 year ago
@colesy93 No need for apologies bud
MrCrazyfucker123 1 year ago
or its the wheather though and on top of that the run way seems soaked so it could be slippery.
lifeguard4life1993 1 year ago
maybe warning as in a take off configuration warning with a master warning or caution light that usally indicates the plane isn't quite ready for take off yet
lifeguard4life1993 1 year ago
i hate it when people say why are you using a camera it can interfere with the aircraft... it cant just ask the cabin crew...
ProductionJack 1 year ago
aborted taxi:)
fgiorgio 1 year ago
Too Bad it rained
ionutshowcase 1 year ago
wind sheer warning most likely\
rccrazy30 1 year ago
To wet, if you look how they start rolling so so slowly at the start.
olbi182 1 year ago
electronic devices never affect the flight....
flying19 1 year ago
My first commercial flight as a passenger started with two aborted takeoffs due to a malfunctioning breaker switch. I will never forget that first feeling.
RustyRazor2010 1 year ago
...yeah, those VICIOUS ELECTRONIC DEVICES. Hello, Mythbusters, investigate, please...
thies21 1 year ago
There are many plausible reasons for it to be aborted. Here are two I thought of.
1. Pilot forgot to do some control checks or missed out some points in the checklist. Quite unlikely.
2. Turbulence occurring over takeoff or climb zone which can cause problems when taking off.
The latter is more likely. But in aviation, minor problems could also lead to hazardous situations so if pilots find little problems, they'll just abort the takeoff for safety and redo the procedures.
m4pl3rk1ng 1 year ago
It cannot be his camera as there are no electrical systems that change status on the aircraft from before and during the engines thrust increase. It would have had to be a pressure, temperature or engine fan speed complication. I don't know whether people know this, but you can get your camera approved by most airlines as an allowance to turn your camera on during take-off and landing or when the seat belt sign is on with some airlines. Only few cameras interfere with aircraft instruments.
thurrucane 1 year ago
@thurrucane no cameras interfere with aircraft systems :)
donhur 1 year ago
@donhur Can you justify that?
thurrucane 1 year ago
@thurrucane yup!
donhur 1 year ago
I found out the reason for switching off ALL electronics before take off and landing on a recent flight. It's because the crew want you to have all your senses aware in case of an emergency, because take off and landing are where most accidents happen, it has nothing to 'electronic interference'.
2009v8 1 year ago
Ok you do know that they tell you to turn off your electronic devices so that f something happens they can have your full attention, right?
gopherhockeyfreak 1 year ago