TF2 Tactics: Sniper-Sentry Kills

[Asgar16926]

this video is correct but it should be noted that huntsman can be quicker due to less charge time. On a level 3 sentry using method one, the huntsman is quickest by a mile. even an undefended level one could be taken down faster than with a rifle.

[GLaDOSmastter]

it happens because a fully huntsman does 120hp- and a rifle 150hp- so, level1-150hp,  level2-180hp,level 3-216hp

[mateogun]

i'll still using the huntsman to kill the sentrys, im pretty good whit it...maybe they have noobs engies but anyway i destroy more sentrys whit the huntsman

[XX310]

AFAIK the huntsman could destroy a mini-sentry with one fully charged shot.

[chonnywanabe]

what do you use to edit this video?

[mu556]

But you guys forgot something. How much damage does a Huntsmen Bow does when it's on fire to a Lvl 1,2 and 3 Sentry?

[zebluspykillsyou]

@mu556 It does the same damage if arrow's on fire because sentry doesn't burn. Watch "Fire/Kritz Arrows" video.

[PlatypusBeast]

The huntsman probably could kill a sentry faster than a sniper rifle though. Not on a level one, but on a lvl 3, easily.

[xvxtobyxvx]

you guys aren't giving the huntsman enough credit. with the sniper rifle you have to wait for about 5 seconds for a fully charged shot but the huntsman does full damge with just a very short pause so you can shoot more than one arrow while the enige's off the get metal

[mrsslein]

look at the statistics this vid is famous in russia :3

[Soldaat58]

Huntsman is better if you are rusher

[Lengry]

Isn't huntsman damage depends on the distance?

[ElTioDelHarvestMoon]

@Lengry no,thats the medic's crossbow.

the huntsman's damage (and parabola) depends directly on the tension time.

HeadShot at maximum tension: 360 hp

HeadShot at minimum tension: 170

[JellowHD]

Huntsman more shots/second?

[xbeast133]

Actually the most vulnerable spot on a sentry is the very back. See that little red box? Aim for that with a fully charged shot and it does more damage.

[Jose5k]

What about one arrow and a Direct Hit rocket?

[dePerago]

The more I know. Thank you, TF2 tactics!

[chojustin]

Pleaase make a vid on how much a no charge shot does

[modeadsex123]

The huntsman always does less damage, a fully charged headshot with th sniper does 450m huntsman does 360.

[COZYTW]

DO take note, with the Huntsman, you kill the sentry faster. Remember that the charge rate for the Huntsman is shortened, so you can shoot two arrows to destroy the sentry after you kill then Engineer.

[Munry12]

Well, I'd say the Huntsman is way faster than the Sniper and in some cases, cause of the "time" it takes to actually hit the sentry, it would be more appropriate. However, not being able to 1hit the level 1 sentry IS a problem for every huntsman user. But yeah, you've always got a teammate to help you. And a soldier will ALWAYS shoot at least 2 rockets at the sentry, not only one.

[megajebus]

huntsman is for killing people not sentries silly person

[Gargomon251]

idk if someone said something, but I'd like to note that the huntsman reaches full charge much faster than the SR.

[xxRazorJadexx]

Duuuude stop teaching people how to kill my sentries.

Man... Those turrets are my friends, man...

[FrozenHaxor2]

Really nice video!! What is name of this song? :)

[Xesterk123]

does the Direct Hit do more damage to a building than the Rocket Launcher?

[SonGOKUSSJ6]

@Xesterk123 It does...With normal rocket launcher you have to hit 3 times to destroy engie's buildings but when it comes to Direct Hit you need two so The Huntsman plus Direct Hit = Great success on destroying Sentry on lvl 2 and 3.

[ShineTheHedgehog]

As a note, you just got bad rolls on the HUntsman vs level 1 Sentry. Usually you CAN destroy it with a single arrow.

[TheDarkUsername]

My tactic is always killing the engi first. If you can't do that, as the video has shown, you must do it with someone else.

[ChibiVegito]

You should use Flame's Hud.  It actually tells you how much health your teammates have and even how much health sentries have left in numbers.

[okinawaskate]

wtf if a fully charged sniper shot?



[bocodamondo]

GOD DAMIT just do like me

HEADSHOT THE ENGINEER, and then kill the sentry

[maba27]

What's the sniper damage vs the dispenser? And a teleporter?

[mugizz]

what about ignited arrow? :/

[Hgat1]

@mugizz less damage, the advantage of ignited arrow if on people because it makes them set on fire

[anttonoo]

3:08 FAIL you are not even aiming at him thats why you are missing him

[WoodenZigzagoon]

The Huntsman is actually very good against sentries in practice.

2 arrows kills any level much faster than the rifle.

[FlyingAce1015]

not shooting past the sentry with the hit box was a development flaw they could have made the collision box smaller but didn't to save modeling time

[failurebob]

I dont understand why most snipers dont do that. My tactic is charge up, shoot the sentry. if the engie comes to heal it, i snipe him, if he doesnt, I kill hos sentry.

And thanks for giving the block diagram of the sentry, I was wondering why i couldnt pro-snipe an engie through the beams and wires of the sentry

[failurebob]

@failurebob sorry for the typo, didnt mean "hos"...supposed to say "his"

[xxzzjeffreyxxzz]

the huntsman is soposed to be close range

[Doom2Guy]

The huntsman doesn't need to be charged as much though, so it's not that bad

[hithron]

cool also the huntsman is used for more close range infantry fights so this makes sense :D my fav weapon = huntsman fav class = sniper/scout

[Locker344]

huntsman is still not as good as sniper rifle. u can no scope people up close if u set the crosshairs and it is just as effective

[thelossbloodlock]

No-scoping doesn't do nearly as much damage and there's no chance of headshots. The Huntsman is made for medium to close range and the sniper is made for long range.

[Locker344]

that is true but u can have the rifle ready for shooting and it reloads a bit faster than the bow. how also becomes less acurate the longer it is held drawn

[thelossbloodlock]

But you shouldn't be running around with the bow drawn anyways cause it slows you down meaning you're an easier target. What the Huntsman is truly invaluable for is one-shotting those pesky heavies who just tear through the rest of your team.

[Renbail]

I would like to see you back up your own words there buddy. Show me some evidence that proves that arrow damage depends on the distance between the target and the sniper and how charging your arrow at any distance will add to the total damage count.

[christianmalazarte]

the range at which I was standing was the range of a sentry gun. so how close do you want me to stand to the sentry to be practical? please dont call people noobs right at the beginning, atleast get to know them first.

[wo1fofice]

It'd wouldn't make a difference anyway though, right? Damage done to buildings isn't affected by falloff.. I think.

[YotaXP]

What about a comparison of firing consecutive charged rifle shots VS uncharged ones?

[devilspirits5]

lol i found out the fire arrow by accident. a pyro was chasing down a spy then he went past me and my arrow was on fire

[Locker344]

that i think is the only cool part about the huntsman

[itsmenerd]

Thats fun cuz in headshot the huntsman man is the most powerfull on (in no charging shots). Riffel takes out 150hp nonecharged and huntsman takes out 175 mayby more hp nonecharged (tested on on a medic and a demoman)

[negativezone13]

First, use punctuation. Second, your tests fail. uncharged arrows does damage.

(from tf2wiki(dot)net(slash)wiki(sla­sh)Huntsman) Damage * Bodyshot: 44-58 (0% charge), 103-137 (100% charge) * Headshot: 153 (0% charge), 360 (100% charge)

so go suck a negro cock would ya?

[GameviaRaider]

@negativezone13

FUCK YOU TO HELL! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT AWESOMENESS THIS GUY HAS!

PROVE YOUR POINT, NOT THAT YOU'LL BE RIGHT! thanks and have a nice day.^_^

[Viikktor]

I still wanna se the fire arrow with this

[Zorenomaru]

Can someone tell me the name of the song?

[GoldenAreil]

ive actually learned something from this video!

[Treblaine]

@GoldenAreil

And knowing is half the battle

[puppetmassster]

Not against buildings. You can be halfway across the map and your gun would do the same amount of damage. It doesn't matter what class you are. try it.

[13AnGeL666]

huntsman is very easy to kill a sentry.. you just shoot and shoot with full charges untill engy is out of ammo or just didnt repair sentry at the right time.. and if its level 1 or 2 you just give your team more time before the engy build a level 3 sentry

[iq3d]

lvl 1 sentry -2 arrows at most

lvl 2 sentry -4 arrows at most

lvl 3 sentry-5 arrows at most

[ultraanime]

the negative attribute to huntsman is that it does less dmg and has no scope but the positive attribute is that it charges faster

[TVFrag]

and it got the a hit box 2 x bigger

[spnkr19]

2x? more like train size. It'd be more accurate to remodel the huntsman's arrow into the Train and have it fire trains at people. only way to accurately show it's hitbox.

[TVFrag]

@spnkr19 xD great idea^^

[ClaytonStaples]

Exactly. Most snipers use the rifle, however. The only reason they use that is it's a lot easier to aim, because it has a scope with barely any recoil.

Snipers that don't really like to be snipers use the huntsman. The Huntsman charges faster, however.

A fully charged Huntsman shot does a considerable amount more damage than a sniper shot uncharged. This allows the Huntsman to dish out more damage faster than the rifle. The only down part to that is it has no scope.

[Zeemis]

Wrong, most snipers use the Huntsman.

Sniper requires more skill than a Huntsman.

[ClaytonStaples]

Ah.

Well that all depends on the sniper.

I personally find the actual rifle easier to use. For me the aiming is much more fluent.

[Suburbankidd]

*cough* MORE DAMAGE, LESS CHARGE, and scope is gay.

[Theonegamefreak]

And your more aware of what's around you.

[ultraanime]

huntsman charges a full charge faster than the rifle

[makealotofcake]

that doesn't make sense

[Pirkinmaa]

The music fits nicely on this vid.

[nilloc93]

ronpaulsucketh that is correct BUT some of those require a singe powerful hit combined with another player you don't have TIME to fire a 2nd shot

[ronpaulsucketh]

rifle takes longer to charge. you can pump 2 arrows out quickly enough to take it down

[NIHLUSAK]

engineer is underpowered :(

[mrdracko]

Just a tip for all snipers, one fully charged sniper shot + submachinegun spray kills a level 3 sentry in no time at all. works on x2 sentry reach perfectly.

[christianmalazarte]

ill have to test this, this sounds good :)

[theufua]

@mrdracko And 3 charged shots can destroy a Level 3 sentry, 2 kills level 2, etc.

[Raelth]

spamming an uncharged shot at a sentry gun is pretty ruthless though if you're working on killing something stronger

[MyAccountsDisappear]

I've taken out several sentries alone with both weapons. The Rifle does slightly more damage, but the Huntsman charges faster and doesn't slow you down while you're aiming, making it less likely that some other Sniper will kill you while you're taking out the Engineer's sentry. Also, the Huntsman can arc, meaning even if the Engineer is hiding behind his hitbox mess of a sentry, it won't matter if you land the arrow just right.

[revender13]

If you get the engy dead, would it be faster to fully charge 2 shots on a level 3, or fully charge then no scope it the rest of the way?

[CounterNerd]

So all together,it all comes down how 1337 you are, Sniper Rifle= For noobs. Huntsman= For 1337's

[theTIMEcanoe]

stupid much?

[xmaker1]

Sniper Rifle is why sniper is the most useless class it's long range is made for campers meaning your not caping the point or pushing cart but if people would stop camping for a better kdr sniper could be used just as well

[CounterNerd]

indeed

[EvilEyesMovies]

sniper rifle kicks huntsman ass, huntsman is a luck weapon

[CounterNerd]

sniper rifle don't take any effort to hit,this 9 year old had the sniper rifle and sucked with the huntsman,you're not telling me you're a 9 year old,ARE YOU?! AAAAAAAAARGH LAZY YOUNGLINGS

[EvilEyesMovies]

no im not 9 years old,

ZogJhones is right, in the right hands it can be a very leathal weapon, but if youre good at aiming the sniper rifle still beats huntsman

[CounterNerd]

fuck jeez i was only kidding,they are just game weapons,it depends from player to player,man,you're not getting my point.

[stopkaz]

Eyez u need prediction skillz :)

end.

[ZogJhones]

Well said. Even though the huntsman CAN be used as a skillful weapon, however, very few use it that way.

Most of them just spam corridors hoping for a kill.

[DeadMansFilm]

YA after all everyone is going to have the ability to stand their and fire!!!!

[lort1]

Huntsman does about 120-125 damage, while a fully charged scope does 150 all the time. So it's kind of obvious what does the best :3

[TxCxMassacerx]

actually, im glad the huntsman does less damage to senrties, other that that, its pratically a no scope sniper.

[reddemunn]

Just wondering, is it possible to fully charge a level 2 then no scope it for the remaining health?

I mean it's a cornercase, but if the engi goes off to get metal, I'm guessing you'd have enough time to at least scope in and get it.

[christianmalazarte]

yeap should be a good time :)

[M30W3R]

A good way to finish the sentry is to check for the engineer. If you know that he's not very far from the sentry just hit it with an uncharged scope. The engie will come and repair it, without knowing there's a sniper nearby. Your chance to kill the guy and destroy his stuff.

[ScienceFiction216]

Huh, music reminds me of this old game my sister used to play called Creatures.

The video was informative. I will attempt to use what I've learned in my next match. I think I'll actually look around at your other videos before I play, though. Helpful hints are always welcome!

[christianmalazarte]

wow i just noticed how the screencap quality is so much better on my newer videos. i used fraps to record these.

[TigerSlashX]

damn

by the time you are done with this sentrys will need a buff.

[Planetary0]

What about flaming arrows? I heard it can one-shot even a level 3. Or is it just another rumor?

[christianmalazarte]

lol thats a good one, ill remember that for next time :)

[spiffdude]

you do you not have 1mil+ subs?! Your video's are fantastic! Keep it up!

[timbosquad]

Fantastic video :) Music also good

[Sepharite]

Love your videos. Especially the music! ;)

[seriousOmajan]

Yay video suggested by me :D. So submit your tactic!!!

[christianmalazarte]

yay you saw it! i was gonna email you today but i was so tired i fell asleep on the bed lol. sorry it took awhile, i had to think of what to include in the video :)

[KingKool2099]

I am in awe of your scientific rigor.

I am keeping the Huntsman out right now because I want to get De-Sentry-Lized with the Huntsman (I have two so far, need one more).

Would you be willing to respond to a direct challenge? There's something I tried to do, but couldn't get it to work. Maybe you could show if it was possible.

[christianmalazarte]

hehe wat wer u trying to do?

[KingKool2099]

I think I'll make it into a video response. I planned on making it a video anyway.

[MannnisEi]

The huntsman shots weren't fully chargred i think. Just keep it ready a little longer and the snipers hand starts shaking, then it is fully charged.

[christianmalazarte]

when your hands starts shaking that means you're getting tired :) and your shot will not be accurate. It's fully charge if you look at the bar on the bottom right :)

[Sepharite]

Joke? Or fail?

[Giantrock0]

great! it's not crazy. It's quality, and quality attracts people :D

[djdeckstar]

cool

[christianmalazarte]

it's crazy how fast you guys find my videos... it's still not even done processing yet.

[GawYT]

subscribed man, thats why :D